haha not on the same segment ah that vios n city with this forte..

from what i read in wikipedia, they says it was BETA II engine, but nvm about all that .I have more to reveal about my spectra5, which might be similar to the Forte in terms of specs.

today i went up genting with 3 friends ... 4 person in the car...going up genting was really hard, really no power..no joke...1250Kg car with 4 persons (total weight about 300kg) ..just imagine 1.55tonnes with 1.6 engine..really tak boleh naik. even using 2nd gear on manual mode,its hard to exceed 40km/h on certain slopes.sometimes need to go down to 1st gear too accelerate the car after sharp and steep corners. So the verdict is that , only other cars "potong" me , and I cannot "potong" other cars. really, no joke about this. This is 1 real heavy car to move up to genting, kaki genting shoudn buy this car.

ok, then coming down from genting...not much problem maneuvering around the corners as the car is stable, corners all ok. problem is about the same with other cars i think.. the brake pads are hot and smelly. and it became kinda "spongebob" brake pad. stopping power is greatly reduced when the pad is heated up although on 4 disc brakes. The culprit is of course the weight again, as more brake power is needed to stop a heavy car from rolling down.

I'm not saying this car is not good, how often do we go up genting? thats y earlier i've said kaki genting shouldn buy this car, others should be ok..

even my gen2 to go uphill at no problem at all man.. still can potong some of the car... campro better than your BETA II engine?

its not because campro is better than betaII , its becoz gen2, is about 300kg lighter than spectra5...try masuk another few fella into the car to get the 1.55 ton weight, u'll see wat ur campro can do.

wow.. bobby.. nice update..

I am not too sure if you step the pedal all the way... though... will try on Cameron / Genting v.soon and shall update you.. i realize the program for Forte is not like most MIJ, you really need to step deeper / hard for the ECU to know "hei... i need more power.." Conti.. like pedal..

personally feel if step hard.. it comes with all the power.... (at FC cost.. though.. )

Not too sure of Spectra 5 in msia.. (below?), the specs comes with 108hp... but i dont think its not enuf to pedal to genting.. but never to expect much i think.. but really even sometime my Waja 1.6 mit engine (about 109hp) really feel week too in some of my trip up...


Oh fyi, Forte's Gamma II engine comes with 124ps.. so think its >15% more from Spectra BetaII engine?
i saw some posts of forte genting trip and no one complains with the power.. so finger cross...
hope that helps...too..

beta II is rated at 121ps...shouldn be a big difference ma. not much complain about this car going up genting la, maybe i did not step on the accelerator hard enough. car still new ma, just over 2.5K. it was my 1st time driving up genting though, not familiar with the road yet,so dont dare to press on accelerator kaw kaw..scared i fly off from the hill.

the hill at genting and cameron is different, genting 1 is short and steep, hile cameron is long and less steep. going up cameron will surely much easier.

hi, bobby..

yes.. i agree.. Genting is more steep... and ill be trying that on forte and update.. sure many had tried... so.. far no complains from my regular forum

about the engine.. 121.. is sure healthy for such a road... i would think.. but until proven, finger crossed..

Hope to hear from your drive to Genting soon? A detail write up please. Thanks.

I was back in Ipoh last weekend and saw a Black KIA Forte with Spore plate. Just got a glimpse only as the Forte was coming from the opposite direction. The exterior looks good and bigger in size than Vios. Its a real nice car. Alot of improvement compared to previous Spectra.

huh? its not even launched yet lar bro.... what r u trying to point out?
that advert appears on the net for quite some time already...

Glad you see the real car.. heee....
yes.. i would totally forget about vios to this, nothing to compare.. just different segment except the price... please people.. dun flame me.. (really untill u sit in and compare.. ) Altis? maybe.. i would say..

after 2 weeks with this car.. went back to drive my old waja.. i can safely say its 2 different world.. all together.. road handing, pose.. all... tried >150.. stable.. stick.. on road..(must be of the 17" 215 tyre..), only if sound proof can be better (its already beri good!..but as many advice maybe not to add any more unnecessary load of sound proof to it. so i choose to live with it.) but still in love of my old work horse...

btw wanna ask , does spectra5 or forte have ARB installed on it ? or strut bar?

17" 215 tyres is stock or modified? 2.0 engine?

This post has been edited by bobbychin: Sep 14 2009, 05:22 PM

hi, Bobby

i think forte share platform with hyundai elantra/avante?
and i does not comes with strut bar.. ARB? donno what is that

yes.. 17" is stock for SX (Aka lux version) 1.6 too...

yes, Spectra5/cerato uses the same platform with elantra. ARB is anti roll bar.
it looks like this :
http://i1.lelong.com.my/UserImages/Items/0...MaxAudio@18.jpg

i check the rear wheel area just now after washing my car, i found something similar in that shape. so i presume it already come with ARB.

maybe gonna add strut bar soon .

1 more question i would like to ask burgerlim , how much is the tyre secommended tyre pressure for the forte? my spectra5 is 30psi, which i think is not enough for my 205/50/16.


sorry for asking spectra5/forte question here. But no harm rite? just little chat while waiting for the forte to come to malaysia.

spectra5 here comes with 121ps gamma engine, forte with same engine but different tuning got 124ps.

Thanks,

unfortunately Forte rear suspension uses coupled torsion beam.. aka cheap suspension.. as in toyota... a cut down from Avante multilinked dept... about ARB, no not to front and back. nope... if i am not wrong UR racing already developed full range of ARB kit for forte.. courtesy of sg forte drive up to KL...
But if local version comes with ESP.. then its working fine.. cornering pose is superb.. pointing to the direction well... very little roll... (but i didnt try at 150! so please dun assume..heee)...

pressure no diff.. about 30psi..is sufficient... for the 17" depending on your driving... usu city / highway diff.. abit.. think many bros here can advice...

HTH...

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Added on September 15, 2009, 9:52 amya.. as in avante engine.. btw... even hyundai avante 121ps is already uptuned for better fuel efficiency.. 14km/l..! woo...forte too in that range...
but really forte engine is a tad noisier... maybe due to sound proof.. i donno...

This post has been edited by Burgerlim: Sep 15 2009, 09:52 AM

Forte with the "rear suspension uses coupled torsion beam" aka cheap suspension should be sufficient and good handling form normal driving speed and condition? Maybe Burgerlim can advice this???

About the sound proof, Burgerlim, is Forte really that bad? Compare to new Vios, which is better?

Thanks

hi,

no suspension no issue.. at all during normal drive, and in-fact quite surprise of the car handling with it... only time is when you cross hump lor.. its slightly choppy. (v.v.slight only..) aya..toyota / honda also.. mah.. so no complains la..

for sound proof.. its very very good already... just that top grade avante (lux class sg ver) is a tad better there lor... no complain.. really.. just that it could be better.. mah.. since the rest of the car is so good...

HTH

every is just OK for the price..everything can be better, but of course come with a price. but for the KiA car price we're having, i think we're already getting much more than proton cars.

I AGREE!

Oh yeah... KOUP's coming down under...
http://www.caradvice.com.au/41417/kia-cera...up-first-steer/

Too bad it's going to be more flash than substance as it's still the same 4 speed 2.0L engine as the sedan. Maybe there will be a high end turbo charged version with the inevitable 6 speed manual (maybe a 5 speed auto too) by the end of next year; but the trade off would be a higher price which people are still unwilling to pay for a Korean brand.

At 26K AUD (RM78K) for a 2.0L coupe, we're already getting a better deal than M'sia or S'pore.

Now where can I find the money?

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Sep 16 2009, 06:37 PM