Why don't you order from monoprice? Click click click at the comfort of your chair, 2-3 days later arrive to your doorstep via UPS. Don't like it later you can donate it to me.

monoprice cable looks just like cable sold at ace hardware. the copper does not look shiny like ofc copper.

wow... abang arremie bought every single cable sold from monoprice ker then come to that conclusion ?

haha not me. a friend bought and i dont like the look of that 14awg copper. it works well though just not as pretty

to certain extent, i agree with u bro. speaker cables are kinda funny things, when u have spent few thousand $ or even tens of thousand $ in your AV setup, u really feel like spending few hundreds on cables is very petty, and only with those cables the setup is 'complete', regardless if the cables really have significant effect. To me personally, it's some kinda psychology effect. But afterall, i will still spend those $

exactly what was on my mind when i saw those cables at monoprice....nope, i'm not the son of a multi-millionaire and i'm far away from being one myself, but, just like the car i'm driving..based on the cost of the price, somehow, u just feel like a RM600-RM700 tires would make ur drive feels better...how much better? i really can't tell..not a pro driver...

similarly, am no expert in AV or HT, but if i'm spending RM7k on speakers, and then put cap ayam (with all due respect to monoprice cables) cables on them...seems a bit off...

but at the same time, not looking for those that cost me an arm + both my legs...just decent...decent enough for me to know the cables i'm using aint exactly pro type, and yet, not really cap ayam...just to feel better...cables in the region of RM10/m is decent enough for me...and just within budget..

any other choice other than monoprice? i keep seeing this ad banner on lowyat.net -> JPS Lab...anyone tried this before? i dunno what happened but the last time i clicked on that banner...something pops up and was installing itself...i had to hard reset my pc after that...luckily..nothing wrong..

No disrespect to your opinion, but i'm using psb symphony speakers which costs 15k per pair but i'm sticking with my rm2xx per 50m roll of speaker cable. sounds excellent no matter what cable i use on em, weather it is cheapo cable or good quality 12awg/14awg rm1xx per meter cable. my rule is, if you have the money, invest in better speaker rather than that pathetic cable. putting a continental gt tyre on a pathetic ride will not make it faster than a modena with a normal tyre isn't it?

Ahh, glad to read this, thanks bro.

like what i mentioned earlier, investing in speaker cables is kinda psychological effect, some people may feel more comfortable with 'better' cables, but of course 'better' is very subjective and depends on individual's perception. Some may feel like RM10/m cable is good enough (better than cap ayam cable anyway lar), some may go for really high end one. Better cables prone to provide improvement, however, the question is...does the price justify the improvement? Investing RM2k, for instance, in cable or rather top up that sum in better speakers, very subjective and i think there will be never-ending debate over the issue. What say u guys?

This post has been edited by milo-o: Jul 16 2009, 12:46 AM

You can try Blue Jean.
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totally agree with you bro! for better returns, spend more on speaker and amp! rule of thumb...10% of your total cost spend on cables. good cables dun give improvement...blind test anyone? but expensive cables look canggih so it enhance the look of your setup...but not the sound quality...

during my "Hi-fi" days...we done many blind test...the only component of the system you notice the most is 1. Amp, 2. Speakers 2. CD player. Amp is the most obvious..one blind test last time, we hook up 01 marantz Class A integrated amp, cant remember which model, i think is PM17? vs a soundstage valve amp(i hope i get the brand correct as this is more than 10 years ago)...is more like TTL vs Valve...the valve sound so warm and really bring out the vocals...but it sonud flat if you play lady ga ga disco track..

its really not about how it looks...the cables are either gonna be concealed in the ceiling & wall or behind the entire system..hardly visible at all...

is really just a comfort to know ur cables are decent...not high-end type tat wouldn't make too much difference to a noobie's ear (like mine)

May I ask something.....do you guys who say no difference between cables actually do try out different cables or you just pickup what others just said. By trying different cables here doesn't mean you listen to a song or two with a cable, switch and listen again and expect to hear a subtle difference. What I mean by trying out is you really into it. You take your time without prejudice, without hope and without expectation. Until you have this kind of passion, you can't say you have tried different cables and they make no difference

They said....thou shalt know thyself. I said....thou shalt know thycables to know thyself

honestly, i can't hear the difference...i was using generic cables for my front speakers before...then i bot Cable Talk cables after reading its review on WHF mag (many moons ago in UK) i even bot a bi-wire pair for the front...

to me...there's no difference....but then again...am no expert..some pro ppl may be able to hear differences no matter how subtle...but, not me...

and to be honest...since i dont make a living out of watching tv/movies & listening to music...i'm actually ok with decent cables...

if u can actually hear the differences...kudos to u...it means u got really high maintanence pair of ears

this is how we do the blind test..


that supa rich ...mark levison owner..(the speaker is almost 8 feet tall... ) has been listening to his supa duper hi-fi for almost 6 months. we use his favorite song(the song which he is very familiar), blindfold the fella(his ears should be more sensitive now), switch the cable and ask him to identify which cable...

it end up the fella dun even dare to simply tembak...cos kena jaga muka mar....

Arremie, i am not saying investing on cable is foolish, if you can afford and game for it, why not? i just want to bring out that cable brand does not improve sonically of your system, it you want improvement, dun waste your money here.

you can ask a friend to do this blind test easily at home.

i think to be more precise, we tend to upgrade our cables for improvement, not for difference right? difference doesn't mean better, it might be worse! what we should be discussing here is 'does better cables give improved sound quality', rather than 'does different cable give different sound quality'. for the later question perhaps i should answer Yes (to some experts i believe they could hear the very subtle difference, but not me hehe), but for the first question, again, it is very subjective

This post has been edited by milo-o: Jul 16 2009, 01:43 AM

if you cannot hear any differences, how you judge whether it is good or bad?

that's why i said some ppl (including me as well) upgrade cables due to psychological effect, better cables = better sound??
if u can hear the differences, then how do u judge wether it is better or worse?


This post has been edited by milo-o: Jul 16 2009, 02:06 AM

There's a very fine line between improvement and difference. Sometimes when you listen to your speakers you might have a thought...I wish I have a bit more on high (or mid or low). So this is where different cables come into picture. They help you find the sweet spot that you are missing. No cables can make your 2k speakers sounded like 15k. People who says that is either highly stoned or too excited about their newly purchased cables

So when you hit that sweet spot, do you call it a difference or an improvement? A bit of both? That's the fine line...

I'm currently using a cable which is half the price of what I use before and I like it better. So can I say my cheaper cable is better than my more expensive cable? I can't. I like it because it gives me that sweet spot for my speakers. It might not has the same effect for your speakers

So....thou shalt know thycables to know thyself

I do agree with arremie even though i do not believe in investing expensive cables. A good build and quality cable is just fine to me even though its 'cheap'. I have 5 different cables now...

There are definitely differences in sound character but very subtle.System matching is the key as 'Arremie' said,but the problem is everyone hears differently and have different taste not to mention systems.
Those who do not find any sound differences in cables are the lucky ones! Might as well save the money and invest in better amps,speakers or sources...which i find is the logical route.

Another point is, why change cables to "adjust" the sound ? Many 'audiophiles' find it taboo to even touch the tone controls, when it is built for a purpose unless its a minimalist amp.

Just my view......