They are different. Good in their own way. At this moment I prefer the 4S11. That's why I'm not selling my SA XT

Anyone of the Belden 5000UE bulker willing to sell me 20 feet?

OK, confirmed get this cable. attentional can get 20' from my allocation.

1) arremie - 100ft
2) ycs - 130ft
3) zerorulez - 100ft
4) geforce1999 -150ft
5) attentional - 20ft

arremie, maybe you can take the lead to organise payment and collection details.

Ok no prob. I will send details via PM.

Thank you so much bro ycs!!!! n confirmed!

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This post has been edited by gsdev: Jun 13 2009, 02:03 AM

If you are not critical abt the surround and you system is pretty well a basic setup, so if its wires and length is what you are after...try the Philips brands....its widely available...I've even seen it at Jusco.
http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/e...SU_US_CONSUMER/

It comes in a roll type:
http://list.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/List.as...itButton=Search

Bro there's a reason la why we wanted Belden. Compared to those Philips, this one is 12 gauge and has the lowest resistance which is very important for longer run more than 50ft.

Even if only using basic system, there's always advantage with a proper setup

This post has been edited by arremie: Jun 12 2009, 08:22 PM

if it is lower resistance, pump up the volume a notch will more than compensate for it...between a 12 gauge and a 16gauge at 50ft is less than 0.5db loss...it also depends on the speaker impedance.
The figures table can be easily googled.

16gauge should be good enough for a run of 50ft and casual users that use it for surround sound of movies (like me), but 12gauge is of course better and recommend if the budget is more...more than double...but does it give twice the satisfaction rather than just sound coming out of the surround speakers?....yes?...go for it.. ..

Yes there's always 2 sides of opinion when people talk about cables so each to its own. For me I will buy any cables within my budget that I believed will improve my system even with little margin. I don't stand around wasting time arguing with people. If the review is good, then there will be a chance my system will also get the improvement.

Anyway just for the sake of comparison, I'm currently using 50ft Monster THX 16awg bought at RM209. This Belden is 12awg and only RM114.10 for 50ft....so why not

Sorry, tumpang this post.

Belden 1311A 152m @ RMR1,559.00
http://malaysia.rs-online.com/web/search/s...ct&R=2508292525
I am going to buy this 152m roll, but need only 62m.
But I hope to have others join in before I buy @RM10.30/m plus shipping.
Please join here http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1061372


This post has been edited by ckyongs: Jun 13 2009, 12:07 AM

Yes..I do share the same opinion...I would certainly go for the belden, but one thing, for me 16 awg was hard enough to conceal it using small cable trunking/conduit..so I bet 12awg would be harder to route from the front to the rears depending situations...so beginners need to plan properly on what to buy and whats the best way to keep the wiring conceal and tidy.

The lower the awg the better? Does this applies for hdmi cable too?

can we consider getting the 1311A instead? Didn't know RS had them.

I think 1311A is preferable coz its got more copper strands.

Some very expensive good cables don't have more strands than cheaper ones.
Some have special winding, coatings, teflon, foam etc etc.

Sound may be different; not better or worse because it depends on your system.
Some cables sound bright and can make warm sound system sound clearer.
Some cables sound warm, and will tame bright systems.

Why 1311A?
Cause the KADAS, Daytona other "unbranded" RM4/m cables DO sound harsh.
I will be paying RM300 less than those 14 AWG Belden surround cables sold in shops for more than RM20/m (Penang price).
I will be paying RM100 more compare to 30m 5000UE.
I am just taking a risk, and I don't plan to change to other cables.

This post has been edited by ckyongs: Jun 13 2009, 12:14 PM

Guys, pls let me know if you don't want the 5000UE. Don't play a fool commit that u want the 5000UE and then later saying u want something else. Nobody force u to get the 5000UE. If u don't want then just tell u don't want. Don't waste someone else time because of your selfishness.

bro, i was just asking if we can switch to 1311A and not trying to waste your time, being selfish or play a fool. I am serious to get some cables.

Anyway, looks like geforce have decided to get 1311A and so this bulk may not take off. Thus, I'll join the 1311A bulk buy.

No u didn't. U have committed urself in getting the 5000. U could at least PM me or reply to my PM if changed ur mind. I'm ok with that so I don't have to waste my time going to RS. Instead u busy urself getting another cable in another thread. What kind of attitude is that? One word....SELFISH!!

geforce getting the 1311 bcoz I told him I'm not gonna continue after u screw up. Unlike u, we have communicated via PM. So don't come here and twist the story around saying u get the 1311 bcoz I'm not gonna continue. U think I'm stupid? Smart ass!

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Added on June 14, 2009, 8:11 pmOk. I cool down. What past is past la. Hope u happy with ur choice. I will order mine personally.

This post has been edited by arremie: Jun 14 2009, 08:11 PM

wanna ask, i have a small room,

3 meter apart fronts and 1 meter center , u think using unterminated cables like Belden makes much improvements, over my stock ones, brandless cables provided by my speakers seller, ?

U mean the red and black cable that comes free with some speakers? Get rid of it. The cable is so small and very high in resistance. Belden will definitely improve ur system over that free cable.