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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V8<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Jul 13 2009, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Jul 11 2009, 05:48 PM)
@edmin,i found that we do not need to delete pagefile.sys manually. The file will disappear after you select no paging file and reboot.
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Jul 11 2009, 08:32 PM)
in xp maybe, but in vista you will need to delete it.
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never try in my xp cause ram not enough. and yes, for vista need reboot and delete it manually. my pagefile.sys is around 3gb+, nice that can clear some rooms for my c: thumbup.gif need space badly... lolz
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post Jul 13 2009, 03:02 PM

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Get a standalone small capacity HDD as OS drive then dont need share ur HDD with ur media data file. laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2009, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Jul 12 2009, 01:23 AM)
Vista is garbage for me.. biggrin.gif

im using 2008 server instead of Vista if needs be

Win7 ? that should be much much better
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not garbage at all. newer laptops in the market does not have xp driver support. even if there are, it is not optimised and vista feel much more responsive compared to vista in these situations.

running multitasking in vista vs XP also has it's differences. speaking from my own experience, running a quad on vista is better compared to xp in the sense of multitasking.

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post Jul 13 2009, 04:26 PM

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Some boot programs such as hiren boot or miniPE need ramdisk to read and write the whole data in our HDD if in case our windows corrupted and we need to recover data files badly. I am afraid deleting the pagefile these boot programs won't run, any ideas?
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 13 2009, 04:26 PM)
Some boot programs such as hiren boot or miniPE need ramdisk to read and write the whole data in our HDD if in case our windows corrupted and we need to recover data files badly. I am afraid deleting the pagefile these boot programs won't run, any ideas?
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NO. those bootcd does not require pagefile.sys to run. those are standalone boot programs. RAMdisk has TOTALLY NOTHING to do with pagefile.

even without a hard disk, hiren or miniPE will still be able to boot.

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post Jul 13 2009, 08:53 PM

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@powerwoot,i've just changed to no paging file.So far still haven't encounter any problem.
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post Jul 13 2009, 10:57 PM

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my windows 2008 server also needed to delete pagefile.sys

2.5GB recovered smile.gif wahaha awesome smile.gif

thats my RAM size :0
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QUOTE(fylon @ Jul 13 2009, 03:02 PM)
@Kabu

Get a standalone small capacity HDD as OS drive then dont need share ur HDD with ur media data file. laugh.gif
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problem is i currently using small capacity HDD . haha..... wait till i got extra cash then get a half tera or a tera hdd for media files.

QUOTE(edministrator @ Jul 13 2009, 04:23 PM)
not garbage at all. newer laptops in the market does not have xp driver support. even if there are, it is not optimised and vista feel much more responsive compared to vista in these situations.

running multitasking in vista vs XP also has it's differences. speaking from my own experience, running a quad on vista is better compared to xp in the sense of multitasking.
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2nd to your thought. i feel that less hang for programs and smoother when running multiple tasks. especially running bitcomet. very laggy on xp but never lag in vista. wink.gif
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QUOTE(edministrator @ Jul 13 2009, 05:24 PM)
NO. those bootcd does not require pagefile.sys to run. those are standalone boot programs. RAMdisk has TOTALLY NOTHING to do with pagefile.

even without a hard disk, hiren or miniPE will still be able to boot.
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I see, thanks for the clarification.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jul 14 2009, 09:43 AM)
I see, thanks for the clarification.
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no problem.

Jcys,
if u disable pagefile in a server environment, that would be risky since it is in a real working environment, we never will know when the RAM will hit the threshold with it's operation for 24/7. if personal use of windows server OS, then no issue. wink.gif
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post Jul 14 2009, 03:45 PM

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@edmin,i agree with you.If the RAM hits threshold then the system will crashed.
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post Jul 14 2009, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Jul 14 2009, 02:36 PM)
no problem.

Jcys,
if u disable pagefile in a server environment, that would be risky since it is in a real working environment, we never will know when the RAM will hit the threshold with it's operation for 24/7. if personal use of windows server OS, then no issue.  wink.gif
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i have many levels of protection against that smile.gif

most of the time servers with actual usage of RAM which are far below total RAM , those are safe smile.gif

we are consultants who study this performance
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@jcsy
you're using windows server 2008 rite? is it any different from the normal windows version?
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post Jul 14 2009, 06:22 PM

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almost 95% customers are still on 2003 / 2000 combo

some recent are using 2008, but very little still

2003 is probably here to stay for a long time.

im using 2008 just for the purposes of testing and to feel where the services, applications, settings are and mostly to test stuff smile.gif


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consultants? what line r u in? your degree major is? u taken MCSE? interesting... brows.gif

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post Jul 14 2009, 08:48 PM

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degree in IT also

MCSE is really nothing smile.gif there are bigger things out there than that

but yup, we are SE's ... system engineers that do these kind of things
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MCSE is not nothing, it is something. at least u go through the horror of all the practical and theory stuff that you may not get in your day to day IT work. 7 tough papers/exams to go through. if not then this title is just another pretty dressing & wallpaper. of course i m not saying it is everything, if u get my drift. there are MCSD, CCNP, CCNA, etc also out there. Having any of these certs are added value to our IT career. If I am the boss I would employ someone with added value (extra professional cert) rather than a plain degree holder.

Why i specifically ask about MCSE is because of SE. Maintaining/consultation on server stuff needs SE expertise. Domains, active directories, groups policies, the stuff about forests and trees, setting up DHCP, WINS, DNS, resources sharing, etc.

Degree in IT is very common too. You majoring in which field? smile.gif

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post Jul 14 2009, 09:29 PM

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I was also from IT field,now my job is not related much to IT field. Lolz...

@jcsy,means the server will always have enough RAM for applications without hitting the threshold?

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QUOTE(edministrator @ Jul 14 2009, 09:04 PM)
MCSE is not nothing, it is something. at least u go through the horror of all the practical and theory stuff that you may not get in your day to day IT work. 7 tough papers/exams to go through. if not then this title is just another pretty dressing & wallpaper. of course i m not saying it is everything, if u get my drift. there are MCSD, CCNP, CCNA, etc also out there. Having any of these certs are added value to our IT career. If I am the boss I would employ someone with added value (extra professional cert) rather than a plain degree holder.

Why i specifically ask about MCSE is because of SE. Maintaining/consultation on server stuff needs SE expertise. Domains, active directories, groups policies, the stuff about forests and trees, setting up DHCP, WINS, DNS, resources sharing, etc.

Degree in IT is very common too. You majoring in which field?  smile.gif
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to me, MCSE after 7 papers is still just a Windows Admin smile.gif

many ppl also know how to administrate Windows these days so thats something not rare. MCSE refreshes its papers so thats a pain to keep constantly getting / updating

yup definitely not EVERYTHING but if you are a boss , u might wanna look for them with those certs, or mine tongue.gif

with reference to your cert lists, I have 7 certs for products (VMware one of those big ones) smile.gif I am about to get 1 or 2 more pretty soon, which in fact im in a training in singapore right now for.

i work 3 years and age 23 biggrin.gif stil long way to go but im catchin up with all those 27-30 year olds biggrin.gif

yup, the things u mention up there are things im aware about, not to mention hardware, backup and storage.
now recently venturing into storage replication and storage dedupe and many many more

im not a network person but i just understand the basics of routing and what networks can do but i dont configure them. i am also aware of firewall appliances , configuring them all to at least some basics.

i also know basic linux, which gets me around much in linux environments and mine is total command line. i dont even know how to use KDE, YAST or GNOME.

even solve mac problems b4 because mac somehow , is unix (like linux) and can use my command line but i have 0 knowledege in the interface ! power of command line is useful smile.gif

add this all together and get ROJAKMAN, some1 who does anything and everything in the company.. sad.gif
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post Jul 15 2009, 01:58 PM

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Jcsy, what is major in ur Degree? IT does have quite a few numbers of categories. laugh.gif Somehow, by jut mention IT, it seems too common. work as SE? Same here. I was hopping from computing field (oh well.. wasted what i had learned in my degree) to pure network. So far so good. doh.gif Btw, which company are u working for? brows.gif

It seems out topic already, but still i wanna point out something. nod.gif

My 2cent MCSE or whatever cert it is, they do have the own existing purpose. People take it cause they need it. And ur right, most people now knows how to operate and administrate windows these day because windows is too common and almost everyone use it. But, do they fully know and understand what is going on behind the windows? What is their architecture, the kernel thingy? I believe none of the normal windows user can explain or really know about that, beside those who take the professional course.

Also, we are just mentioned about MCSE only. Bear in mind that, MCSE were part of MCP. And there are still some other courses like MCA, MCPD, MCTS and etc. MCSE might common or garbage like u said. But i dont know the rest were garbage too. Dare a speech, how much do u really really understand and know about Microsoft Technology, Infrastructures and their Architectures? We're not talking about the Windows or OS here. But the technology like BizTalk server and Microsoft Tuxedo server, hows the TPM and ACID works? It might be old and outdated, but anyone really understand how these thing works in the background? Believe only those who taken the course before then can answer. Technology is growing day by day and thats the reason for MCP program exist. When come to technology, nothing is garbage, new thing were actually developed from the old one.

I'm not microsoft fanboy. and I'm not trying to cover the products but in facts somehow thing exist is because there are needed for a category needing it. And this are not just point purely to Microsoft cert, but to others as well. Anyways, it is always better to have extra value added cert rather then just a plain degree. Just not just for the sake of better looking on ur CV with extra cert but also u had gained the extra knowledge where others might not have. Just like a piece of art is always looks better with frame.

As for my self, i had taken ProCurve ONE Module, but my work were all deal with Cisco. doh.gif Thinking to for CCNA at the end of the year. laugh.gif

P/s: Apologized for my word if it sounds offense, but this is my point of view about professional course.

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