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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V8<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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Boneka
post May 18 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 18 2009, 09:21 PM)
Which mobo you woud lile to change?
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idk atm. kinda noob with the latest comp techs. what mobo has at least 1 ide slot for hardisk?
i accidentaly bought new ide hd because i was thought it was my hd fault before. kinda wasted.



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QUOTE(Boneka @ May 18 2009, 11:37 PM)
idk atm. kinda noob with the latest comp techs. what mobo has at least 1 ide slot for hardisk?
i accidentaly bought new ide hd because i was thought it was my hd fault before. kinda wasted.
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All new mobo has at least 1 IDE slot for either HDD or DVD-ROM. If you are pairing HDD + DVD-ROM together,your HDD will suffer at slow speed.You should have getting a SATA HDD nowadays as IDE type is no longer popular.
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post May 19 2009, 05:46 PM

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A breath of new life for P4??? (for those with HT only though... tongue.gif)

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Windows 7 to Offer Better Hyper-Threading Support

Improved hardware and software compatibility one of the top three goals of Windows 7 development

Microsoft is working hard to make things better for the launch of Windows 7 following the lukewarm reception to Windows Vista. Vista was plagued with early hardware and software incompatibility issues that were one of the main reasons enterprise customers refused to migrate from XP.

Microsoft says that among the improvements in Windows 7 is better support for Hyper-Threading according to Microsoft's Bill Veghte. Veghte says that Microsoft has been working closely with Intel to beef up Windows 7’s support for Hyper-Threading. Hyper-Threading it a technique used by Intel to allow processing tasks to be divided among multiple cores on a processor.

Veghte said at the Microsoft TechEd conference, "The work that we've done in Windows 7 in the scheduler and the core of the system to take full advantage of those capabilities, ultimately we think we can deliver a great and better experience for you. We need to make sure the ecosystem is really, really ready."

Veghte is keen to get people to understand that Windows 7 won’t suffer from the same early problems Vista had that prevented the operating system from making headway in enterprise environments. He says that Windows 7 is "very, very close" to achieving full compatibility with virtually all hardware and software makers.

Microsoft currently expects to finish Windows 7 by mid-August and offer a final version to consumers and businesses by the holiday shopping season. That is a key target for Microsoft as a better operating system could woo consumers to buy new computers for the holidays. Better computer sales is certainly something that both Microsoft and computer makers need. Microsoft has admitted that Windows sales are down 16% in the most recent fiscal quarter.


http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+7+to+Offe...rticle15150.htm
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A good news to old school here.I will definately give a try on Windows 7 during the full release.
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interesting but performance like Windows XP?

the Windows 7 release of RC1 already out a few days ago and all my colleagues are trying it out already biggrin.gif

crazy

well, im just back from Bandung Indonesia.. shopping there is so cheap and crazy
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 20 2009, 06:32 AM)
interesting but performance like Windows XP?

the Windows 7 release of RC1 already out a few days ago and all my colleagues are trying it out already biggrin.gif

crazy

well, im just back from Bandung Indonesia.. shopping there is so cheap and crazy
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Then you can seek for their comments about Windows 7 on performance and reliability. Are they using old schools S478 to test out?Bandung shopping is cheap?Then you should have bought a lot.
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post May 20 2009, 08:48 AM

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yup , bought alot.. branded stuff RM40-50 =.=

they using nice dual cores and stuff leh biggrin.gif

i will be the ony 1 with S478 system to test W7
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post May 20 2009, 08:50 AM

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Am using windows 7 RC right now. laugh.gif Overall i can say is, the performance is not far away from Windows XP. Using C2D T5300 (1.73Ghz, 2MB cache) pair with 2GB ram, over system were smooth like butter. drool.gif Guess it wont be a problem for P4.

Just pity that, most of my networking software (eg. network stumbler) aint still not support it. Will revert back to XP soon.
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ May 20 2009, 08:48 AM)
yup , bought alot.. branded stuff RM40-50 =.=

they using nice dual cores and stuff leh biggrin.gif

i will be the ony 1 with S478 system to test W7
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Branded stuffs only RM40-50? Then we should thanks to our beloved government in charging extreme taxes on us. They use dual core to test?Nice one.

QUOTE(fylon @ May 20 2009, 08:50 AM)
Am using windows 7 RC right now. laugh.gif Overall i can say is, the performance is not far away from Windows XP. Using C2D T5300 (1.73Ghz, 2MB cache) pair with 2GB ram, over system were smooth like butter. drool.gif Guess it wont be a problem for P4.

Just pity that, most of my networking software (eg. network stumbler) aint still not support it. Will revert back to XP soon.
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@fylon,don't worry with the networking software. It's still in RC releases. The final copy will be much better than the current one.
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@fylon,
you didn't try the win xp mode inside win 7? see if your program works on it
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Yea. But the RC released is seems to be quite good already. If compare with Vista test previously, my 945G will struggle if Aero enable on Vista. The GUI will be sluggish, but in W7 this doesnt occurred at all.

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laugh.gif No i dont.. Lazy to install on VM, so just directly dump in for testing. But anyways, is a good one. Looking forward for this windows. As im having some AHCI issues with x64 Vista. Still in investigating for this problem.

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for s478, no matter u have lots of ram or less ram, i highly recommend readyboost flashdrives for your system. this is not to add 'ram' to your pc, but increase responsiveness of your applications. readyboost capable flashdrives in reading and writing small chunks of data is around 10x faster than conventional hard disks.

consider it a cache between HDD and RAM. though i have 8GB ram, i m still reaping benefits from 4GB readyboost.

btw, only applicable to vista and w7.

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QUOTE(fylon @ May 20 2009, 09:25 AM)
@ray
Yea. But the RC released is seems to be quite good already. If compare with Vista test previously, my 945G will struggle if Aero enable on Vista. The GUI will be sluggish, but in W7 this doesnt occurred at all.

@dlwl
laugh.gif No i dont.. Lazy to install on VM, so just directly dump in for testing. But anyways, is a good one. Looking forward for this windows. As im having some AHCI issues with x64 Vista. Still in investigating for this problem.
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@fylon,glad to hear feedback from you. The GUI is better than Vista. I heard Vista is more hardware dependent while Windows 7 has better software to work with hardware?

QUOTE(edministrator @ May 20 2009, 10:19 AM)
for s478, no matter u have lots of ram or less ram, i highly recommend readyboost flashdrives for your system. this is not to add 'ram' to your pc, but increase responsiveness of your applications. readyboost capable flashdrives in reading and writing small chunks of data is around 10x faster than conventional hard disks.

consider it a cache between HDD and RAM. though i have 8GB ram, i m still reaping benefits from 4GB readyboost.

btw, only applicable to vista and w7.
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@edmin,what is the optimum flash drive capacity ready boost? 4GB?
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optimum microsoft recommend 2.5:1 or 1:1 ratio. for me, i think get the highest u can go, which is 4GB (max). any higher than that I think would be useless coz of the seek time would be slowed down by huge capacity.

w7 has better compatibility because of native windows xp application compatibility mode, but only applicable to CPU with VT, haha...
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QUOTE(edministrator @ May 20 2009, 10:44 AM)
w7 has better compatibility because of native windows xp application compatibility mode, but only applicable to CPU with VT, haha...
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yeah, that's the problem. thought i could jump to win7 and then use win xp mode also, coz i'm afraid that some apps wouldn't work. sadly my proc doesn't support VT. it's kinda funny that it only works on procs with VT, coz i've tried running a few VMs before, no prob running on my proc which doesnt have VT.
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VT stuffs seems to be new to me. Is it good to use Win XP in Vista or Windows 7 ? I think old school can't support this.
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ May 20 2009, 11:09 AM)
VT stuffs seems to be new to me. Is it good to use Win XP in Vista or Windows 7 ? I think old school can't support this.
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XP mode needs Intel VT or AMD-V to run...
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QUOTE(astria @ May 20 2009, 11:14 AM)
XP mode needs Intel VT or AMD-V to run...
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It's a software from Intel?
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virtualization is a tech built inside the processor. budget range of processors seldom have this tech, commonly omitted by intel, but amd seems to have them in most if not all their processors. some news say that this win7 and winxp mode thingy could play into amd's hands laugh.gif


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@ray
VT is a hardware stuff.

@dlwl
VM software works fine on non VT cpu. the reason why VT is needed in W7, is that it could do hardware level VT instead of using software.

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