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 AMD® Socket AM2&AM3 Overclocking V17, The secret is yet to be unleashed...

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ventrilocks
post Jun 5 2009, 12:22 PM

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tu la..pening2... rclxub.gif
phenom II secret has yet to be unleashed..
ACC n this NB/HTT secret need to be unlock..
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jun 5 2009, 12:22 PM)
tu la..pening2... rclxub.gif
phenom II secret has yet to be unleashed..
ACC n this NB/HTT secret need to be unlock..
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thats y amd is fun lol. since so many can be tuned T.T
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:24 PM

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As the mini tittle said..Alot things that is hidden inside AMD..
The potential yet to be unleashed whistling.gif
..lim..Any chance of Phenom II X2/Athlon II X2 on teh gathering? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jun 5 2009, 12:24 PM)
As the mini tittle said..Alot things that is hidden inside AMD..
The potential yet to be unleashed whistling.gif
..lim..Any chance of Phenom II X2/Athlon II X2 on teh gathering? biggrin.gif
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but the secret if not unleashed it will be pointless of buying phenom II..
better AMD tell now.. tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:28 PM

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about ventrilocks link
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Whenever one is talking about the North Bridge (NB) of a Phenom II, it is safe to assume that they are talking about the CPU-NB. The CPU-NB is a section of the CPU that controls the L3, Memory Controller and the Hyper-Transport (HTT).

its hard to understand this...what is this?

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jun 5 2009, 12:21 PM)
What i can feel is..My extracting,scanning,loading,converting become faster by around 2~10% since i overclocked the NB Frequency.
Gah..Bro digswell want quit?no way lah whistling.gif
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like 8tvt said... if oc proc only, nb cant adept the fast data from proc.. so nb btlenecking cpu
and vise versa (is that so 8tvt?)

so how come in ts case, he oc nb up to 6ghz..but able to feel the difference.
as exmple 9150 stuck at 2.4ghz. so the nb freq that suitable for it is 2ghz (as example only)
but he oc the nb and still feel the difrence..... er.. noob what to learn.and corrct me if im wrong
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:31 PM

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digs, drop ur name at my thread thx..

the board.. do google by ur own.. coz i not vy sure also.. js noe got such board oni... mayb with 8 slot kua.. 4 ddr2 4 ddr3 mayb...

TS, chip i not sure.. all depend on ourself.. if any1 bring there.. thn we will hv that... biggrin.gif

and i cnt on9 too freq... oni borrow lappy frm fren... ltr i cnt on9 ad... doh.gif

waiting the sxxk tm activ my phone line also vy long....
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Jun 5 2009, 12:31 PM)
digs, drop ur name at my thread thx..

the board.. do google by ur own.. coz i not vy sure also.. js noe got such board oni... mayb with 8 slot kua.. 4 ddr2 4 ddr3 mayb...

TS, chip i not sure.. all depend on ourself.. if any1 bring there.. thn we will hv that... biggrin.gif

and i cnt on9 too freq... oni borrow lappy frm fren... ltr i cnt on9 ad... doh.gif

waiting the sxxk tm activ my phone line also vy long....
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usually combo board comes with 6 slot ram oni. bought one before.
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:33 PM

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wats the safe temperature for NB??max temp for NB on ASUS M4A78-E..


Added on June 5, 2009, 12:35 pm
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CPU-NB Voltage applies extra voltage to the on-die Northbridge controller, so raising it *will* increase your CPU's temps.

The only reason to increase this voltage beyond [Auto] is if you're having issues with raising the HT and the RAM together. Raising this voltage will create some stability for higher HT overclocks, but at a greater expense of temperatures than it's actually worth.

Stock, I believe, is 1.20V for the 940 on the M3A and M4A series boards, and bumping it up to 1.22 or 1.24 can help with some stability issues, and it seems like your board automatically overvolts the CPU-NB by .3 to .5V once you go higher than 1.25V, so keep that in consideration, but like I said, you're *gonna* be raising the temp of the CPU by doing so - so raising it isn't really worth the effort, especially if you can overclock without it by other means.

Remember, you're talking about the on-die NB controller, not the motherboard's NB controller...AMD systems have had the memory controller on-die for quite some time, and it's not to be confused with the 'other' NB


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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 5 2009, 12:28 PM)
about ventrilocks link

its hard to understand this...what is this?
like 8tvt said... if oc proc only, nb cant adept the fast data from proc.. so nb btlenecking cpu
and vise versa (is that so 8tvt?)

so how come in ts case, he oc nb up to 6ghz..but able to feel the difference.
as exmple 9150 stuck at 2.4ghz. so the nb freq that suitable for it is 2ghz (as example only)
but he oc the nb and still feel the difrence..... er.. noob what to learn.and corrct me if im wrong
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This thing also pening coz when mentioning o/c'ing the NB like for my mobo there is option to set the volt for NB or CPU-NB, which one do we have to raise the volt when tinkering with the NB speed?? rclxub.gif
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 5 2009, 11:44 AM)
just share what u like about it..

this one?
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Not this 1 mine has a heat pipe from the NB to the capacitors near the processor. Its called the Hummer series mobo.
Anyone using the same mobo? Anyone tried unlcoking the 4th core???
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jun 5 2009, 12:33 PM)
wats the safe temperature for NB??max temp for NB on ASUS M4A78-E..


Added on June 5, 2009, 12:35 pm
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Ok now i understand i think hmm.gif
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 5 2009, 12:38 PM)
Ok now i understand i think hmm.gif
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explain to me pls...
means mobo nb is for htt and cpu-nb is for l3 cache?
ventrilock..mind to explain abit more

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post Jun 5 2009, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(cloudwan @ Jun 5 2009, 12:35 PM)
This thing also pening coz when mentioning o/c'ing the NB like for my mobo there is option to set the volt for NB or CPU-NB, which one do we have to raise the volt when tinkering with the NB speed??  rclxub.gif
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i still dun understand..
NB=CPU-NB??
or they are different thing?


Added on June 5, 2009, 12:45 pm
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Whenever one is talking about the North Bridge (NB) of a Phenom II, it is safe to assume that they are talking about the CPU-NB. The CPU-NB is a section of the CPU that controls the L3, Memory Controller and the Hyper-Transport (HTT). As mentioned before the CPU-NB and the HTT have different multipliers, please remember this.
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 5 2009, 12:39 PM)
explain to me pls...
means mobo nb is for htt and cpu-nb is for l3 cache?
ventrilock..mind to explain abit more
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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jun 5 2009, 12:42 PM)
i still dun understand..
NB=CPU-NB??
or they are different thing?


Added on June 5, 2009, 12:45 pm
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I believe for AMD there would be 2 NB's..

CPU-NB => it's where the integrated mem controller and HTT preside in the CPU i think..
NB => This is on the mobo where the GPU/PCIE controller is located..
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post Jun 5 2009, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(ventrilocks @ Jun 5 2009, 12:42 PM)
i still dun understand..
NB=CPU-NB??
or they are different thing?


Added on June 5, 2009, 12:45 pm
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Remember, you're talking about the on-die NB controller, not the motherboard's NB controller...AMD systems have had the memory controller on-die for quite some time, and it's not to be confused with the 'other' NB

so these 2 differ..in pehnomII la
actually,what is cpu-nb?where its located inside the proc?. nvr heard of it before..




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post Jun 5 2009, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(kuntawakaw @ Jun 5 2009, 12:52 PM)
so these 2 differ..in pehnomII la
actually,what is cpu-nb?where its located inside the proc?. nvr heard of it before..
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Actually i think it's already been there since Phenom ah..
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post Jun 5 2009, 01:29 PM

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so means the NB Freq we OC is the CPU-NB??


Added on June 5, 2009, 1:34 pmuser posted image
Jetway Hummer series HA07-Ultra

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[url=http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/motherboard_view.asp?productid=593&proname=MA3-79GDG COMBO]MA3-79GDG COMBO[/url]
had interest on both boards, but didn't buy cz no one tried it here...

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post Jun 5 2009, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(byfc2010 @ Jun 5 2009, 01:29 PM)
so means the NB Freq we OC is the CPU-NB??


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[url=http://www.jetway.com.tw/jw/motherboard_view.asp?productid=593&proname=MA3-79GDG COMBO]MA3-79GDG COMBO[/url]
had interest on both boards, but didn't buy cz no one tried it here...
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Almost bought the Jetway mobo but none here use so end up with Biostar...

But 1 thing I like that their distro is just behind my house laugh.gif
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QUOTE(digswell @ Jun 5 2009, 01:39 PM)
pasal semua org kat sini kaya...pakai Mama and Daddy...ade juga pakai Grandma
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U forgot Baby laugh.gif

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