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TSchinamobile
post Apr 21 2009, 06:06 PM, updated 17y ago

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Local set iPhone.

Why i say it is blocked.

i got 3 instant of iPhone for service.
all MAXIS set. (Dont ask me why customer did not go to Maxis Service center)

ALL three set cannot detect sim.

1 set firmware 2.2 yellowsn0w after JB still cannot detect sim.

2 set 2.2.1 cannot detect sim. Use Rebel and Gevey also no signal.

3 set firiware 2.2 JB yellsn0w still no sim


Conclusion this local iPhone (AKA) is block not at phone level?

Hai............ doh.gif all sets return to customer no charges.

all 3 set not directly purchased . all bought from somebody who signs the contract.

So it seems like some people sign the iPhone ,
sell it off to make quick money.
Never pay Bill.
iPhone tio blocked
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This post has been edited by chinamobile: Apr 21 2009, 06:14 PM
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post Apr 21 2009, 06:28 PM

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well u do know that the telecommunications provider have IMEI blocking powers that they haven't actually improvise on right?

perhaps it might be that thing happening now
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post Apr 21 2009, 06:47 PM

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SO BUYER of maxis iphone must beware?

your iphone have no resell value


Added on April 21, 2009, 7:09 pmSO BUYER of maxis iphone must beware?

your iphone have no resell value

something david told me
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What is an IMEI?

The IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) is a unique 17 or 15 digit code used to identify an individual mobile station to a GSM or UMTS network. The IMEI number provides an important function; it uniquely identifies a specific mobile phone being used on a mobile network. The IMEI is a useful tool to prevent a stolen handset from accessing a network and being used to place calls. Mobile phone owners who have their phones stolen can contact their mobile network provider and ask them disable a phone using its IMEI number. With an IMEI number, the phone can be blocked from the network quickly and easily.

It is important to note that swapping a SIM card will not stop a phone from being banned. IMEI numbers are stored in the phones themselves, not on the SIM cards.

An IMEI is only used to identify the device and does not relate to a specific individual or organization. Other numbers such as the ESN (Electronic Serial Numbers) and MEID (Mobile Equipment Identifiers) can link an individual to a phone. Usually, an IMSI number stored on a SIM card can identify the subscriber on a network.

There are several ways in which you can locate your mobile phone's IMEI number. The IMEI can usually be found on the handset, beneath the battery, sometimes printed on a small white label. Another way to easily locate your IMEI phone is to dial the following sequence of numbers into the handset: *#06#. If you have a Sony Ericsson mobile phone, you can retrieve the IMEI by pressing the following key sequence: right,*, left, left,*, left, *, left.

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post Apr 21 2009, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(chinamobile @ Apr 21 2009, 06:47 PM)
SO BUYER of maxis iphone must beware?

your iphone have no resell value


Added on April 21, 2009, 7:09 pmSO BUYER of maxis iphone must beware?

your iphone have no resell value

something david told me
"
What is an IMEI?

The IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity) is a unique 17 or 15 digit code used to identify an individual mobile station to a GSM or UMTS network. The IMEI number provides an important function; it uniquely identifies a specific mobile phone being used on a mobile network. The IMEI is a useful tool to prevent a stolen handset from accessing a network and being used to place calls. Mobile phone owners who have their phones stolen can contact their mobile network provider and ask them disable a phone using its IMEI number. With an IMEI number, the phone can be blocked from the network quickly and easily.

It is important to note that swapping a SIM card will not stop a phone from being banned. IMEI numbers are stored in the phones themselves, not on the SIM cards.

An IMEI is only used to identify the device and does not relate to a specific individual or organization. Other numbers such as the ESN (Electronic Serial Numbers) and MEID (Mobile Equipment Identifiers) can link an individual to a phone. Usually, an IMSI number stored on a SIM card can identify the subscriber on a network.

There are several ways in which you can locate your mobile phone's IMEI number. The IMEI can usually be found on the handset, beneath the battery, sometimes printed on a small white label. Another way to easily locate your IMEI phone is to dial the following sequence of numbers into the handset: *#06#. If you have a Sony Ericsson mobile phone, you can retrieve the IMEI by pressing the following key sequence: right,*, left, left,*, left, *, left.

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I just made a call to Maxis in the light of this 'new' finding but they confirmed that they do not resort to locking the phone. Only the account viz-a-viz SIM card will be suspended and they will only proceed to take action for payments in arrears and whatever punitive charges imposable.
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post Apr 22 2009, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Apr 21 2009, 08:08 PM)
I just made a call to Maxis in the light of this 'new' finding but they confirmed that they do not resort to locking the phone. Only the account viz-a-viz SIM card will be suspended and they will only proceed to take action for payments in arrears and whatever punitive charges imposable.
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the customer service personnel even have problem passing the information on the 3G setting

well i think normally telco will suspend SIM.but does this apply to Telco selling hand set at discounted price?

still does no explain why the 3 maxis iphone cannot lock on to net work (using DIGI or Celcom)
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post Apr 22 2009, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(chinamobile @ Apr 22 2009, 01:18 AM)
the customer service personnel even have problem passing the information on the 3G setting

well i think normally telco will suspend SIM.but does this apply to Telco selling hand set at discounted price?

still does no explain why the 3 maxis iphone cannot lock on to net work (using DIGI or Celcom)
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From the outset, won't there be a big questionmark why the owner(s) did not bring them back to Maxis? Any normal soul would. I am not saying anything here but 'debating' on issues like this will raise awareness to all our fellow forumers....which of course is a good thing.
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post Apr 22 2009, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Apr 22 2009, 11:44 AM)
From the outset, won't there be a big questionmark why the owner(s) did not bring them back to Maxis? Any normal soul would. I am not saying anything here but 'debating' on issues like this will raise awareness to all our fellow forumers....which of course is a good thing.
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the weekend after the grand launch at KLCC

there were many sales thread in LWYT forum for Maxis iPhone.

these phones could be purchased by counter boys and later resale to end customer

so reason why these sets came for service is likely because Maxis do not entertain iPhone owners if they are not the contractual party

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post Apr 22 2009, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(chinamobile @ Apr 21 2009, 06:06 PM)
Local set iPhone.

Why i say it is blocked.

i got 3 instant of iPhone for service.
all MAXIS set. (Dont ask me why customer did not go to Maxis Service center)

ALL three set cannot detect sim.

1 set firmware 2.2 yellowsn0w after JB still cannot detect sim.

2 set 2.2.1 cannot detect sim. Use Rebel and Gevey also no signal.

3 set firiware 2.2 JB yellsn0w still no sim
Conclusion this local iPhone (AKA) is block not at phone level?

Hai............ doh.gif  all sets return to customer no charges.

all 3 set not directly purchased . all bought from somebody who signs the contract.

So it seems like some people sign the iPhone ,
sell it off to make quick money.
Never pay Bill.
iPhone tio blocked
BUYER vmad.gif
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has anyone tried maxis set? can share your opinion on this matter?
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post Apr 23 2009, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(chinamobile @ Apr 22 2009, 05:56 PM)
the weekend after the grand launch at KLCC

there were many sales thread in LWYT forum for Maxis iPhone.

these phones could be purchased by counter boys and later resale to end customer

so reason why these sets came for service is likely because Maxis do not entertain iPhone owners if they are not the contractual party
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My 2 sen worth.....if the contractual party has not defaulted in the monthly commitments, the telco is legally bound to entertain any services spelt out in the agreement, whether or not the unit is brought in by the initial owner. Thus the only situation where buyers of Maxis' sets might face problems is when the contractual parties of those iPhones sold default in paying for the monthly charges. This can then allow the telco to resort to barring the phones from being used.

However, as mentioned, I have called Maxis up and they said they will only suspend the account, ie. the SIM card. However, this may not be the gospel truth.

Perhaps someone in the know could shed some light on this which is important, not to mention critical, for both resellers and buyers of Maxis' sets.
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post Apr 23 2009, 07:37 AM

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about Maxis warranty set, I checked with Maxis upon purchase. The iPhone warranty coverage of 12 months is VALID if:

1) you do not Jailbreak the iPhone
2) the iValue account is still active within 12 month

So yr a 'after market' buyer of Maxis set, make sure the owner who register for the fone has the account kept active, if not, the warranty will void, even below 12 months.
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after jailbreak still can restore and claim for warranty wat
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post Apr 23 2009, 09:06 AM

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oh yes,, tht is if u restore back before going back to Maxis. Wht I meant was yr set is JB (not restored) and sent for claims, then it's void.
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post Apr 23 2009, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(stutzedward @ Apr 23 2009, 07:37 AM)
about Maxis warranty set, I checked with Maxis upon purchase. The iPhone warranty coverage of 12 months is VALID if:

1) you do not Jailbreak the iPhone
2) the iValue account is still active within 12 month

So yr a 'after market' buyer of Maxis set, make sure the owner who register for the fone has the account kept active, if not, the warranty will void, even below 12 months.
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Thanks for the advice but you have only addressed the warranty issue. The main concern right now is will Maxis bar the iPhone itself from being used if the account is not active?
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post Apr 23 2009, 11:44 AM

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Answer is NOPE. I think this has been replied a few postings away, do read again. Maxis will only bar the SIM CARD and not fone.

In fact, I am using DiGi with my Maxis iPhone now, if my Maxis line is barred, let's say if they bar my iPhone IMEI number too, the barring will be valid in Maxis network only. So if I use the DiGi line under DiGi network, the barring can't take effect, logical?
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post Apr 23 2009, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(stutzedward @ Apr 23 2009, 11:44 AM)
Answer is NOPE. I think this has been replied a few postings away, do read again. Maxis will only bar the SIM CARD and not fone.

In fact, I am using DiGi with my Maxis iPhone now, if my Maxis line is barred, let's say if they bar my iPhone IMEI number too, the barring will be valid in Maxis network only. So if I use the DiGi line under DiGi network, the barring can't take effect, logical?
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I am not a technical person but if the telco bars the IMEI which is an integral mechanism, for want of a better word, of the phone, no matter what card you insert, same would be disabled, no?

Say, just say you are right, what about those new owners who are using Maxis as well? As per your analogy, the iPhone will be useless to them then, right?

But there is still hope (I hope) since the customer relations officer I spoke with said that Maxis will only suspend the SIM. However, with this unchartered territory lingering in one's mind is not good.
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@PeeEl,
The Maxis units are fully unlocked units hence Maxis shouldn't be able to barr the use of the iPhones smile.gif
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post Apr 23 2009, 02:16 PM

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well i'm not sure how things typically work for maxis at the moment.

but it is common for telcos here (australian and uk) to lock and bar stolen phones immediately if they have been reported.

since it is feasible over here, i don't see why maxis will not be able to implement it (GSM networks do share a similar trait afterall).

the only difference here is (using the "counter boys" theory; pardon my derogatory slur), maxis could justify their actions by saying that these maxis units were "stolen" from them since they were only meant to be sold with contracts.

edited: darn it! i forgot to add a disclaimer to my statement. but yeah, the above statement is merely an opinion by myself and could be of a speculative nature and must be taken with a pinch of salt


Added on April 23, 2009, 2:22 pmwell not sure if this link will actually work on other phones other than australia bound ones, but no harm sharing i guess.

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post Apr 23 2009, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Apr 23 2009, 02:08 PM)
@PeeEl,
The Maxis units are fully unlocked units hence Maxis shouldn't be able to barr the use of the iPhones smile.gif
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This whole episode started with chinamobile highlighting certain irregularities. If you read from there, you would comprehend the concern.

Btw, I know Maxis' sets are unlocked but we are talking about them being 'blocked' by 'invoking' the IMEI and thus disabling the iPhone itself which can be done for all phones.
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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Apr 23 2009, 02:34 PM)
This whole episode started with chinamobile highlighting certain irregularities. If you read from there, you would comprehend the concern.

Btw, I know Maxis' sets are unlocked but we are talking about them being 'blocked' by 'invoking' the IMEI and thus disabling the iPhone itself which can be done for all phones.
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mate, i reckon that we should continue here, since it is a dedicated thread to this isssue.
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post Apr 23 2009, 02:51 PM

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Stop giving claims. The phone itself is from Singapore (notice the same model number and such , so its from singapore)

I believe in Malaysia , there is no enforcement of blocked IMEI numbers *yet*. So Maxis can't just simply bar the iPhone

Do read up our local telecommunication law. We don't do phone locking , there is no way on earth maxis could just simply lock it. So stop with your false claims and such. Maxis has no control of the iPhone , they just control the SIM services




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