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n i thought this is some sesat MLM thread in CC hahaha...


good infos there, never really knew in-depth diamonds..

I think Diamond is very closely related to romance and tradition, over the years they have been many enhancement technology to make diamond cheaper, eg Laser drilling to remove particles, this will upgrade your S1 diamond to VVS1, minus the exorbitant price but somehow the consumer acceptance has been poor.

Why do people pay nearly double the cost of VVS1 from S1 when its near impossible to see the differences with your naked eye?

As mention Diamonds are so closely related to romance and the prove of love, so by cheating there will kill the romanticism. Most people will still look for the real thing for a proposal ring. Maybe for normal accessories like earrings you can go for synthetic diamond, but until now I've yet to come across a single pc in malaysia.

Pinned thread, since its going somewhere

DEF GHI JKL, etc etc... for clear diamonds, colours go on only up till a certain alphabet... when the colour is different, its graded differently again... the price increases as the colour increases, that's why you have pink diamonds, rubies, emeralds, etc...

anything SI2 and below is viewable with the naked eye, not easy but it can be seen... for me, i'll give up a bit of clarity for better colour and carat...
that why when you go to Tiffany... their diamonds are very expensive though have lower clarity and carat... because they usually give VVS2 and above...

Thank you Baronic

Rubies and emeralds are not diamonds, they're another type of gemstones

True

The reason Tiffany diamond is more expensive is because they're cut differently, the fire and lustre are in fact better than our normal diamond.

Bought this for my wife's last year birthday

Another trick I remember

If you intend to buy diamond that are above F color, set it with gold, the reason is the slightly yellowish diamond will still look white with gold. This is like trick to the eye.

And if you set your proposal ring as solitaire, to make your stone look larger you raise the claw, this will give a 0.50cts look like a 0.60cts.

fire and brilliance wise, what do you think of Lazare, Hearts on Fire and Love Diamond as compared to Tiffany?

more facets not necessarily is nicer cos i don't find SK's Brilliant Rose or GoldHearts Brio88 that appealling... just my opinion, no offense whatsoever

No wonder Tiffany is so expensive.

And i walk in a Tiffany thinking of getting something from there.

i read somewhere that Tiffany "invented" the concept of engagement rings...
Tiffany's 6 claw solitaire d@mn syok... too bad my budget cannot allow...
another thing is, their engagement rings are in platinum... and platinum does not have a "real" market rate... its up to the seller to determine

correct me if i'm wrong

Oh ok.

Thats gonna be one place i'll never go again.

So expensive.

Just to understand things a little further, but since you're a lovely lady, mine telling me more about the close relationship and the fond between women or romance with diamonds?

Just my personal opinion, I would prefer Tiffanys over the rest, the fire is just amazing, but unfortunately I cant afford one.

Yes 6 prong Solitaire was design by Tiffany, and the expensive factor is mainly the design and name of Tiffany.

If you notice woman always love glittering things an Diamond happen to be the most glittering and of coz its expensive so that makes us want it more.

Not sure if this has been posted before but it may be useful to those who are interested

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/198202/diamond

About the control of price in fact most commodity are being manipulated somewhat, oil, gold, silver, bean...
Imagine all the world reserved of gold being dump into the market, gold prices will drop too.

Oh yes? Would you like me to quote and highlight other interesting points from that seven page article?

I'll make it clear right now though. I'm not arguing about what's "right" or "wrong". Merely bringing up something that others may find interesting to know. How they interpret it, is up to them.

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Apr 24 2009, 07:50 PM

Oh go ahead, dun worry I'm not selling diamond

gosh I've just finish reading your long story, and this report was dated 1980s and yet diamond is still going strong now, well maybe the price had ease a bit with this recession.

This post has been edited by moorish: Apr 24 2009, 08:58 PM

When are you buying one for the missus?
She has been giving hints all over la, dum dum

Hearts and arrow diamond pattern cut are invented recently, the success of this diamond is so great that many brands had jump into marketing hearts and arrows diamond. It makes sense to mount this on your proposal ring as hearts and arrow is also the symbol of love (cupid). The meaning and symbol are just so romantic.





Taken frm wiki the history of hearts and arrows

The difference between those commodities you listed and diamonds is that those commodities have real and useful economic lives. Their prices are also governed by exchanges and markets. You sell for the price that people are willing to buy.

No such exchange or market exists for diamonds.

Has anybody here tried to sell a diamond? You cannot even get wholesale prices for them, because they are simply not worth that much. The diamond industry is essentially a large cartel dedicated to propping up the perceived value of an otherwise useless item.

Has anybody even seen the diamonds being sold in retail outlets nowadays? They're so frickin TINY, your eyes would be hard pressed to pick them out.

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Added on April 25, 2009, 8:07 pmYes, this article is the original written in 1982. The article traces the history of the diamond ring from the late 1800's... but the history of the diamond trade goes back longer before that. I'll try to find a few links.

In addition since 1982, there have been NEW developments regarding the diamond trade. These events occurred within living memory. Chances are, those of you reading this thread would have been in school, or in college, or at work when you first heard about the horrifying civil wars in Sierra Leone and Liberia.

Has Mobutu Sese Seko been forgotten already?

The film "Blood Diamond" has actually skirted around the more hideous truths of the diamond trade and stopped short of naming the true perpetrators of a human rights violation that beggars imagination.

I shall also look for the links.

I may also post certain pictures here. I found that pictures and news articles of people having their arms, legs and breasts cut off, gang rape and murder, the usage of child soldiers drugged up on hard narcotics, all committed by militias and warlord forces funded by the diamond trade, has put a damper on my enthusiasm for diamonds.

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Apr 25 2009, 08:07 PM