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Serious Diamonds are forever, The most romantic stones

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post Apr 23 2009, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(@eMiLy @ Apr 23 2009, 01:44 PM)
Do you see countries keeping diamond in the treasury depository? smile.gif
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You cannot say this, a monet is also a good investment but we dun see treasury using them as deposit?
Gold are used as currency, whereelse diamonds are not, but highend diamond is infact a good investment thats why you see soberty house always auctioning big stones and all the rich and famous will bid them.


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post Apr 23 2009, 01:58 PM

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myb u can post sum pic of diamonds and let ppl noe the characteristics of diamonds
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post Apr 23 2009, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 23 2009, 01:48 PM)
You cannot say this, a monet is also a good investment but we dun see treasury using them as deposit?
Gold are used as currency, whereelse diamonds are not, but highend diamond is infact a good investment thats why you see soberty house always auctioning big stones and all the rich and famous will bid them.
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Well, my point is that we are comparing between diamonds and golds, Am aware that some rare diamond are able fetch unbelievable price in the market however thats if you are rich enough to get those. As for golds, you can say that its equivalent to money in its way, also it is better to bet on gold if in case monetary system fails and it is more steady in terms of value in the market.
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post Apr 23 2009, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(@eMiLy @ Apr 23 2009, 02:03 PM)
Well, my point is that we are comparing between diamonds and golds, Am aware that some rare diamond are able fetch unbelievable price in the market however thats if you are rich enough to get those. As for golds, you can say that its equivalent to money in its way, also it is better to bet on gold if in case monetary system fails and it is more steady in terms of value in the market.
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BTW gold trading and actually going to poh kong buy gold and keep is different thing, you buy gold they charge you for workmanship and it can be anything from 20 - 40% more of its value, and when you sell again yu may not get market price.

When market good (gold price up) you cannot sell for cash, you can however trade things in the shop.


Added on April 23, 2009, 2:13 pmactually why move this thread at girls club?
Diamond for proposal ring should be at CC right? So many guys open thread wanna buy diamond ring for proposal at CC instead of at girls club.

Girls dont buy diamond, its the guy that buys diamond for us mah drool.gif

This post has been edited by moorish: Apr 23 2009, 02:13 PM
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post Apr 23 2009, 02:37 PM

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diamonds..........diamonds are made up of carbon. yes carbon. a cheap and plentiful element in the world lol.pencil lead, over roasted bbq meat, charcoal, burnt human remains etc etc cheapo carbon. now why is this cheap carbon of a diamond is so expensive? how come diamond is not black in color??? the answer is in the arrangement of the atoms. the carbon atoms in diamonds are arranged in tetrahedron shape which is strong and bla bla bla....in short diamonds are expensive carbons which is......honestly.....i can't afford it lol.
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Yew. i lost one side of my earing diamond which bought at diamond platinum.. asked them to design back the left side it cost me almost the new pair. then i said i trade with u la.. then they said diamond no value .. really wtf... as i knew value of gold is better than diamond right??? but the design of tiffinay really nice...

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post Apr 23 2009, 03:19 PM

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My Credit Card Bang After I Bought 1Unit Diamond Ring For My Wife . .

She Is Asking For Bigger Unit Now. . Omg. .
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post Apr 23 2009, 04:21 PM

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in before moorish starts selling diamonds in this thread ... .

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jus kiddin' ..
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post Apr 23 2009, 04:46 PM

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oo by the way.. i wanna ask... a friend told me about man made diamonds.... i don't really know how to say.. i have forgotten what they're called but i think it's made in the US. what is clear is that it is much cheaper than "real" diamonds.

i'm the kinda person who's a bit paranoid when it comes to jewellery...... after seeing ppl being robbed in front of myself, i only wear costume jewelleries nowadays... so when my friend brought it up i was pretty excited (even kena robbed also not so sakit hati tongue.gif) where can get? and from the naked eyes, can one really tell the difference?
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 23 2009, 01:44 PM)
Diamond is infact a precious stone no doubt about this, about value, well value has always been the human factor and not by a few minority. eg Rolex watch, its a production thing, they can make how many they want to, but yet Rolex holds its value because majority wants it.
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There is "perceived value" and "true value". The perceived value of diamonds is high, but its true value is low. You can point me at some really rare diamonds, but face it, you can't afford those. Most diamonds bought by the majority of people aren't worth their asking price nor are they really special in any form or way. Its only prevalent because of De Beer's marketing which have gotten girls hooked onto it. "Diamonds are forever"... right.

You used Rolex watches as an example, have you handled an actual Rolex watch? I'm pretty sure you have, the build and quality of a Rolex watch justifies its asking price. There's a certain level of quality guaranteed with an original Rolex watch. With diamonds, what's the value? You can talk about the cut, chemical/structural purity, etc. and a synthetic diamond would exceed natural diamonds in those qualities. Yet "natural diamonds" are more expensive and perceived to be better... why?

This is why I say diamonds are the epitome of superficialness.

QUOTE(rourou @ Apr 23 2009, 04:46 PM)
oo by the way.. i wanna ask... a friend told me about man made diamonds.... i don't really know how to say.. i have forgotten what they're called but i think it's made in the US.  what is clear is that it is much cheaper than "real" diamonds. 

i'm the kinda person who's a bit paranoid when it comes to jewellery...... after seeing ppl being robbed in front of myself, i only wear costume jewelleries nowadays... so when my friend brought it up i was pretty excited (even kena robbed also not so sakit hati tongue.gif) where can get?  and from the naked eyes, can one really tell the difference?
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Synthetic diamonds smile.gif You wouldn't be able to tell from the naked eye, you have to be trained to spot the difference. Not only that, if you actually check it, its form is far more perfect than natural diamonds biggrin.gif
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post Apr 23 2009, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(rourou @ Apr 23 2009, 04:46 PM)
oo by the way.. i wanna ask... a friend told me about man made diamonds.... i don't really know how to say.. i have forgotten what they're called but i think it's made in the US.  what is clear is that it is much cheaper than "real" diamonds. 

i'm the kinda person who's a bit paranoid when it comes to jewellery...... after seeing ppl being robbed in front of myself, i only wear costume jewelleries nowadays... so when my friend brought it up i was pretty excited (even kena robbed also not so sakit hati tongue.gif) where can get?  and from the naked eyes, can one really tell the difference?
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I think you're talking about moizanite with a hardest of 9.5

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 23 2009, 05:06 PM)
There is "perceived value" and "true value". The perceived value of diamonds is high, but its true value is low. You can point me at some really rare diamonds, but face it, you can't afford those. Most diamonds bought by the majority of people aren't worth their asking price nor are they really special in any form or way. Its only prevalent because of De Beer's marketing which have gotten girls hooked onto it. "Diamonds are forever"... right.

You used Rolex watches as an example, have you handled an actual Rolex watch? I'm pretty sure you have, the build and quality of a Rolex watch justifies its asking price. There's a certain level of quality guaranteed with an original Rolex watch. With diamonds, what's the value? You can talk about the cut, chemical/structural purity, etc. and a synthetic diamond would exceed natural diamonds in those qualities. Yet "natural diamonds" are more expensive and perceived to be better... why?

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Then what about gold? why is gold so expensive? do you know they're more gold than gem quality diamond? and whats so valuable about gold when you can have superior alloy that can be made harder than gold. Pure gold cannot make anything, you make ring they're so soft to the point of unusable.

In the end like I say, the value of everything is perceive by the majority of the people on planet earth, why is LV so expensive when the cost of the bag is only 10% of the selling price or even less.

QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 23 2009, 05:06 PM)
This is why I say diamonds are the epitome of superficialness.
Synthetic diamonds smile.gif You wouldn't be able to tell from the naked eye, you have to be trained to spot the difference. Not only that, if you actually check it, its form is far more perfect than natural diamonds biggrin.gif
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Not synthetic diamond la, synthetic diamond is more expensive than real diamond.

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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Apr 23 2009, 03:19 PM)
My Credit Card Bang After I Bought 1Unit Diamond Ring For My Wife . .

She Is Asking For Bigger Unit Now. . Omg. .

Your "unit" not big enough issit biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ... that one cannot really do anything about it one woh ...
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post Apr 23 2009, 06:02 PM

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Okay good info.

Btw i like to ask also, why is Tiffany's SILVER necklace can be more expensive than diamond n gold necklace from normal shop?
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i am not really keen on diamonds yet... smile.gif maybe i haven't reached the stage yet.. tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2009, 06:13 PM

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ok now which is the cheaper version :faint::faint: synthetic or moizanite?? maybe i should just stick to crystals sweat.gif

slushie... me neither laugh.gif
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post Apr 23 2009, 06:27 PM

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I would like to learn a bit about tetrahedral shaped compunds,called diamonds.
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wow. i know nothing about diamonds.. >_<
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QUOTE(moorish @ Apr 23 2009, 05:42 PM)
Then what about gold? why is gold so expensive? do you know they're more gold than gem quality diamond? and whats so valuable about gold when you can have superior alloy that can be made harder than gold. Pure gold cannot make anything, you make ring they're so soft to the point of unusable.

In the end like I say, the value of everything is perceive by the majority of the people on planet earth, why is LV so expensive when the cost of the bag is only 10% of the selling price or even less.

Hence the difference of "perceived value" and "true value". Its why guys think girls are incredibly stupid for spending so much on an LV bag, and why girls are all crazy about it tongue.gif The fact is, most people will get away with fakes, and the same is true with diamonds, the inflated costs is quite ridiculous.

If we want to educate people on diamonds, then shouldn't they be educated on both the history on diamonds as well as the issues entangled with the production and distribution of diamonds? They are pretty stones no doubt, but its like someone selling fake goods at insane prices and everyone believes its real. The marked up prices only exists because the illusion of exclusivity is there.

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Not synthetic diamond la, synthetic diamond is more expensive than real diamond.
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Har? What would you have to back that? I remember seeing the prices of synthetic and real diamonds and the synthetics were always cheaper. It makes sense too, since you can easily produce them in labs rather than funding an entire mining operation.
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wei... don't include LV bags into it.. that's different issues ok... i'm a firm believer that these bags are worth the price okie tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(rourou @ Apr 23 2009, 06:50 PM)
wei... don't include LV bags into it.. that's different issues ok... i'm a firm believer that these bags are worth the price okie tongue.gif tongue.gif
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