Hi, i am currently studying at monash sunway, taking engineering first year, but frankly, i don't have interest in physics especially dynamics very very much, i thought i could try to love physics, but frankly, i just can't

I like biology very much, being a biology student in a-levels last time, but with the limited choices of courses offered, due to my rather poor results in a-levels, i am left with choices such as biomed and biotech, i do have interest in RnD ( research and development ) field, but i am afraid there wouldn't be a job for me in the future, thats y i am taking engineering now, to guarantee a better future

If u are in my shoes what would u do? I am kinda thinking of quitting engineering now and going for biomed. Another reason is pressure, my classmates all seems damn pro, no matter how i study, i still can't catch up to them.

Sigh, i hate going to school now, i hate going to class, studying for something that i don't like

And oh, my coursework, imo, isn't too bad, i still can catch up, but just barely, i still can cope with the mathematics, but just that i hate studying physics

Thanks, rants over, need solid advice now

For me to choose, I will not choose the field that I DO NOT like regardless of how bright the future is. But I see that you did that mistake.
IMHO, biomedical science can bring lucrative future as well, but not in Malaysia at the moment.
How about doing medicine, if you like Bio and wants a course that secure wonderful future, unless you hate bloods or hate stress very much.

Physics is the hardest one can do when you hate it. Even I like it very much, I don't find it easy. LOL, think wise my friend.
You are still young enough to afford a mistake!

Good luck!

p/s: Dynamics is certainly fun, isn't it?

I think its too hard for you to continue doing what you are doing now..

"Sigh, i hate going to school now, i hate going to class, studying for something that i don't like"

Are you sure that you can even graduate if this continues? Not to mention whether you can really work as an engineer in the future. Yes, being an engineer may have large earning potential, but do you think you can compete in this field which is so competitive yet you don't even like studying about this field...?

I guess you should go with what you like, what you really have interest in.

For me, I will go with personal interest. Doing a course that you love really will motivate you to do something and improve without anybody telling you to do. Lucky my parents are the type that let me choose what to study after spm based on personal interest..

Generally speaking, better choose the one you like and it's extra if the course that you choose have a bright future...

This post has been edited by spitfire111: Apr 19 2009, 09:14 PM

My results aren't good enough for medicine, well, for those respectable unis anyway, unless u count going overseas to russia or india, which i don't want, i don't want to play with other's ppl life in the future, my results can't get into medicine, and i accept that

And i think stress studying for something u like is better than stress studying for something u totally dislike

Physics initially was ok, until it start to talk dead things like rotational motion, ugh dynamics, totally ugh

My plan was to go for chemical engineering, my personal interest, was ok-ok, seeing that it has more chemistry, abit biology than physics, it was more mainly on designing process for plants, flow input and output etc



I do have interest in becoming a chemical engineer, but i doubt i can pass the first year, which need us to restudy basics, if only they don't have dynamics which imo is totally unrelated to chemical engineering

Frankly speaking, better future is not determine by the course by you yourself TS.

I'll take the "better future course" juz to get a passport that easier for me to migrate to foreign countries ( in case war happen in M'sia LOL

my interested course.

Personally,I'll go with the course that guarantees a solid future not personal interest.

One of my friends once said it is not about doing the course because you like it but because you can adapt(change) easier to it. (This statement refers to the course with a better future)

On the other hand however,if you are saying that you have like no interest(like almost 0%) at all then you are in a major disadvantage as any course of your choosing should have at least a little interest in it to be able to adapt to it or else you are wasting your time.

If you wish to follow your heart and proceed with your interest then you may do so(if you know where your talent lies in) as it is just my humble opinion.

Good luck to you TS!!!

magazine - ur name is not in the monash thread... drop by to get registered

neway, i think you got the wrong concept of chem. eng. it has very little to do with chemicals as compared to other eng. subjects. u will be into thermodynamics, heat transfers, fluid dynamics more. dont get it? u better not take it then.

it is not too late for you to change course, only in you first year, you dont want to drop out later. monash is not for those with weak heart.

i think i was in your shoes when i was your age, i just tranformed into a robot n do what i needed to do. got my degree now, it is not so bad.

Lol, if u asking me to be a robot and try to serap all those physics stuffs, i can't. Anyway the problem is with myself i think, i have an excellent lecturer for physics, but yet, i still can't get myself to love physics

Hm. just a piece of advice.

After reading some post here, i found there's fairly many people would say "better future course" is their choice. However do realise in fact, there's nothing like "better future course". It's always down to yourself. If you are interested in something, you can do MUCH better. I mean MUCH better compared to things you don't like. Just take yourself as example. You drag your everyday on, facing things you don't like. If you really like something, i believe you'll read everyday and work your way out no matter how hard it is.

We should always first differentiate what's a Job and what's a career. I have a friend who work for a bank as credit card sales. His monthly earning can basically be double of any fresh grads, with his spm cert. But does these work give you what you wanted? will you do for almost rest of your life? (imagine at least 30-40 yrs working) does it satisfy you? Imagine yourself working as an enginner calculating things with physics theories (which you don't like) for.. wow. Of course i don't deny that you can choose to work in other field after your graduation.

Also, no one can project and tell you what position you'll be after your graduation. There's nothing like this course give better prospect, that doesn't. It's all down to yourself. what you like and which position will make you work for your best, not because of the money itself.

Find your way dude. And FYI, the world is spherical. All choice will lead to success so you have to define which way suites you most. =)

Personal interest. Whats the point doing something just for the better future when you wont be enjoying it before, during and after the process?

Nope.

I prefer statics.

I guess,you do need to change your course then.You cant just go on like that as things will get tougher and you dont even enjoy doing all those maths.

Second year builds on the stuff you learn on the first year.It will be about applying the physics you learn in first year,in the subjects.

You cant just serap all the stuff in uni.It just wont work at all.

Thanks for all the inputs, i will discuss with my parents tomorrow, just that, i am afraid of world war will erupt from my brothers, as 16k had been spent

@empirekhoo


I like ur post especially this very much, thanks, i never thought of that, i only think of how engineering can bring a better future, but u are right, i do not want to stick with that for the rest of my life, if its a pressure now, i can't imagine when i am working next time

16k is nothing compare to the sum that you gonna spend to complete the course.

Better change now,than regret later.

Engineering is pretty stressful,as when you design,any mistakes you make will appear in the final product.It will be very difficult and costly to fix it then.Everything must be correct and just enough.If you see a physics rotation motion question is a pressure now,i think you should do something about it.

Good luck,TS.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Apr 19 2009, 11:41 PM

Best of luck to you then.

They would understand if they really care about you.

Try picturing yrself,really enjoying doing biomed,the thought will urge you to move foward.

Though i vote for better future course,i believe there's a lot of path that u can go.Juz like u can go for biomed.Yes,there r not much future in it but still after graduate u can find a job with average pay.How can u keep studying stuff u dont like?It's juz like ppl forcing u to eat shit eventhough u don like it but after eating it,u will become smarter...juz an assumption la

If u take for the course u like,eventhough there's not bright future,there's still no use.An useless cert.Better go for a course with a better future..and u r a bit interested in.At least eventhough ur salary not high,but still u enjoy doing wat u r doing and no regrets.Trust me,even u graduate,u will hate urself for wasting ur time and forcing urself to study things u don like.U will eventually feel bored.

Trust your guts, it is telling you to quit and go for something you like

Anyway, is biomed/biotech so bad that it doesn't have a future at all ?

Nope I m not implying that biotech or biomed has no future. Just tht I heard there's a higher risk of unemployment in Malaysia and even some biotech/med graduate ended up working in sales line in the future. compared to engineering which has a lower risk.

That's what I think anyway. Do feel free to correct me

thanks. though of course do realise the risk involved. the main thing is to able to take the worse out of what happened. (unemployment or forced to work on other field) well, even engineering also you might face the same thing because the result and such? You should make up your mind.

BTW, degree is just a degree. outside world is a whole lot different from just that degree. while some people might still use the knowledge gained, most start from zero and learn everything again.

Try to answer yourself what you really wanted? Is it because you don't like engineering, that's why you 'tentatively' come out with bio stuff? or you REALLY like bio? (this makes alot difference)

Again it's personal opinion. gd luck!

To reply ur last question. Yes I do indeed love bio very very much. Even to the extent of missing it. The feeling is like losing a best friend. Even when studying physics I still think of it. Hence I actually regreted on the first day here . The only reason is because there's alot of money involved already plus the prospect of a brighter future is what motivated me to stay on here .

Hmm.. then i think you know the answer better than i do! okay. all the best dude. do update if you made your decision! =)

oh ya. if you ever made decision on ANY side, never look back.

Future changes, including the so called "popular courses" at the moment. However, your interest and enthusiasm wouldn't change.

1) If the popular course still proves to be popular in four years time, you'd have a job that you don't like after you graduate. You'll probbaly loathe going to work everyday.

2) If the popular course got phased out or became less popular in four years time, you'd lost the purpose of taking the course in the first place and have a degree in something that you hate. Hence means you are less likely able to compete with people who loves what they do.

3) Going for your personal interest, you'd end up with a degree in something that you like and are enthusiastic about.
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So the choice should be obvious now.
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Once you made your decision, you need to be sure that you ARE enthusiastic about biomed, and not because it's on a spur of the moment.

Speak to people doing biomed, visit the faculty, understand what they are studying etc.

Often than not, people tend to regret after switching course because they realised things are different from what they initially perceived them to be.

This post has been edited by Geminist: Apr 20 2009, 08:00 PM

Hi some updates, i spoke to my mom, and she agreed with me on it, however for this time, i won't make hastily decision like last time, last time when i was about to enroll in monash, i was only given 2 WEEKS to think about it, due to

1. My results were only released in dec
2. Monash enrollment due date was in February
3. I laze around for the first 2 month
4. Sunway hostel does not wait nor take reservation

So, my results is i am going to change course to biomed, but i am gonna stay in monash until the sem ends, since i already paid full for it, and study hard, at least maybe the things i learn might have some use in the future

and i will consult with my cousin's wife, which is a biomed graduate, about the prospect of biomed.

Again thanks for all the input, i felt more light hearted than before now

Glad to hear that it's alright now.

Hope you'll enjoy biomed more than engineering.

Can I choose both?

If you say biomed and engineering,I think there is a course call biomed engineering in my uni.Only postgrad,though,if im not wrong.

Basically,it's about designing things like hearing implants to help those who have hearing problems or implants.

I have a friend who is interested in this field.

Well I was asking if I can choose both the options in the poll.

However, about biomedic and engineering. They have been lingering in my mind for quite some time now. I wonder what's the difference between Biomedic and Biomedical Engineering. I always think that Biomedic is one branch of engineering itself. And now comes another new course namely Buiomedical Engineering. Do they differ from each other?

This post has been edited by Elven: Apr 20 2009, 11:21 PM

Im not very sure what Biomed do actually,but i have a rough idea what biomed eng does.

My uni do have some extensive research on that field.Especially on the helping the deaf to listen part.

As people said, what u study now will not be neccessary what u do later. I'm a very good example; diploma in mechatronics, degree is technology management. 1st job: Telecomunication line, 2nd job: Sales engineer, 3rd job: Banking and now project engineer...still surviving....

I'll choose courses which I'm interested on.......

By the way, my Biotech course is going to start soon........I struggled with my choice as well, cause heard from others saying that Biotech no future in M'sia.......
But I believe it's what I like, and perhaps the most interested course........cause I like Bio a lot more compared to Physics.......

I do hope I didn't make the wrong decision........

Biotech may not have bright future in malaysia, but why limit yourself to malaysia only? How bout' singapore?

Anyway if u are choosing ur university, please do make sure it has good rnd facilities, tips given from my cousin wife which is an interviewer, and she look at uni first before ur degree honours

i think both are equally important...

Yar, I plan to do the degree locally, then do master oversea if possible........

I'm going to study in UCSI......any comment about it???

This post has been edited by chungdavi: Apr 21 2009, 11:14 PM

USCI well, frankly, it a big no-no, the best uni that has rnd facilites now is imu, even monash couldn't compared to its rnd facilities, and it is very important to enter an uni with good rnd facilities because it actually gave u a hands on experience, something that u couldn't learn from books.

+1 to TS. a good change in mindset!

Hey magazine...

Mind if you tell me a bit on your experience about telling your mum about your dilemma?

I'm basically in the same boat as you... Currently studying a course I don't like in public university... Thinking of changing course for a long time already, but I don't have the guts to do it. I'm afraid my parents will be mad at me. Can you tell me how you approached and discussed it with them?

Thanks!

But IMU only offer medical biotech, not the general 1......
I'm weaker in Chemistry, that's why I prefer the more general 1.....