For RM 88 or S$37, we get 1Mbps plan (advertised rate) in Malaysia. However for S$35, you can get 8Mbps plan from Singnet (http://www.singnet.com.sg/plans_and_services/broadband/snbb.asp?snbb=8Matl).

So what are the reasons broadband is more expensive in Malaysia?

The usual reason given is Malaysia is bigger, so more costs required for cables and other equipments. This may be true in the beginning.

Another reason given is lack of competition. We may have at least 2 nationwide 3G broadband providers, but we have monopoly for wired broadband area.

Please enlighten me :-)


P.S. Try not to complain in this thread, there are many other threads for complaining.

one word: MONOPOLY

We need this plan

http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSI...Plans/Plans.htm

With RM 150 we get 4mbps only here.. U.S. already minimum 10mbps

why ppl keep post this kind of thread. forget it.

"tak suka. pergi singapore". nearest country.

Those tmnut ceo only have SPM sijil.

Singapore, all we download they monitor...

That is not my intention :-)

Don't people want to do a good job if given a chance?

So what is preventing people in ISPs doing a decent job?

This post has been edited by oumind: Apr 19 2009, 10:32 AM

I am having problems with screamyx too.

But to be fair, u cannot compare a small develop country like Singapore with a bigger developing country like Malaysia.

Its time for government to review its policies on ISP services.

What!!! they can monitored all the things we downloaded

Give us time (20yrs). Those 50age above minister will retire soon.

Maybe future younger minister will know why we use internet. (p2p, youtube)

Agree, it may seems like comparing apple and orange.

How about real 1Mbps plan to US for RM 88? Is this too much?

accept or leave it, but what to do, the only ISP that cover all area

Yes. In Singapore the have an agency under the police force that actually monitor what you do online. Anything illegal, such as trading or putting up illegal websites..the government will track u down.

Much more strict compared to Msia.

Because here is Malaysia.

Which technology is very lame, old, still using ADSL.
People are using FTTH and VDSL2+/ADSL2+...

And one word




MONOPOLY!

People, I hope you can provide reasons for relative expensive broadband in Malaysia.

Now only know ke?

i've just asked a fren of mine working in sg, he still will d/l stuffs like movies, mp3, software etc from internet ... according to him, gov will only track down those who d/l anime. and if they catch, they will do it randomly.

Another reason given is there is insufficient demand for broadband. This does not hold in major cities and towns.

Okay man..
Cool down.

Because one main reason is monopoly.
TM monopolyzed the whole BB shares in MY. So no chance for foreign ISP's to come in to Malaysia so their price is high.

Imagine. If Malaysia have 2 major ISP. Let's say TMNet and Jaring Co.

1Mbps RM50 Streamyx
1Mbps RM25 Jaring.

Sure got less, because they 2 got competition.
** Users will think **

Wah! Jaring 1Mbps RM25! Sub Sub Sub...
Then streamyx lose customer, then streamyx lower the price to RM20.
Then users think wah streamyx RM20.

It goes on and on....
Monopoly is the key. =)

i thought Jaring is more expensive than streamyx..how about other broadband like digi,celcom and maxis..i think streamyx still the cheaper..

That is just an example of competition between two major ISP in Malaysia.

(If it really happens)

Our ISP is money bloodsucker. They focus how to earn money than their crappy services.

Anyone know whether TM pay more for international bandwidth than ISPs in Singapore? If that is true, any reasons?

Why its expensive? Like everyone been saying around here.. its the lack of competition. Plus Malaysia is still waaayyy behind compared to US or Korea. The net awareness among Malaysians is growing, but we are still lacking behind. There are still people in the rural areas that do not know how to use the computer.

The bad service like what is happening right now is partly due to poor planning by our government and Telekom Msia. They have been busy upgrading intranet cables for Cyberjaya, Putrajaya, and many other Corridors. But they fail to upgrade the international cable lines.

how about indonesia, thailand or other nearby country around us?any info? singapore is the good one is it?

myvi5949, any reasons for not upgrading international gateway? Too expensive relative to revenues? Conspiracy theory (Malaysia intranet) ?

Yes , it true. In Boleh Land.
Gov rules by 1 party. What it call Bx, but the true pwoer all rules by Uxxx.

On the other hand, It remember me other industry as well .
Like Example , our car industry.
It just because they want to protect the 2 "P" company.
We have to pay 200-250% import duties and 150% excise duties for all imported vehicle.

Therefore , a Japan Car where sell in japan is about RM 20k. But after bring in Boleh Land , will cost RM 50k-60k.
Let said if they lower all the duties, a Japan Car come in sell at RM30-40k . Who else going to purchase the car manufacture by the 2 "P" ?

To make this change, we have to vote them down in the next coming 5 years. So go SPR register today. Let us make a Better Land instead of Boleh Land.

lol i love your censored part.
It's damn true. Mxx and Mxx like no power to talk. Always diam diam aje.

What we can do is vote for the opposition and hope for a better broadband in BETTERland.
Not BOLEHland.

Monopoly is one thing. Chronic underinvestment in telecommunications infrastructure is another. Has no one realised we are still stuck with what Mahathir left us in 2002?

The problem with Malaysia is people want to see things. Like roads. Bridges. Tunnels. A new airport next to KLIA. Not fibre optic cables which are burried underground.

So the solution is a political one.

Anyone working for a ISP? Want to educate me?

Franky say, i using starhub 8mb speed but its abt the same speed compare with streamyx 512kb. B4 i apply the internet, the ppl say 8mb juz for normal surfing, wtf. If u wan for gaming, must well get 100mb, zzz. So for me, its nt much diff even it stat 8mb or wad.

lol i wouldn't know that unless i work wif TM CEO.

But i imagine that the government is pushing TM to upgrade its local cables so that to attract foreign tech companies to invest and put up offices in Malaysia. Upgrades on international lines is probably under progress..but i could only speculate.

Agree, heavy broadband users in Malaysia are still minority especially among people with power.

@ oumind
I think TM never even cared about Intl link nor thinking of UPGRADING them...

@ gensylo
Indonesia have BBPL.
Go here for more info.
http://www.indonesiabroadband.net/
Vietnam?
Heh! 2Mbps for about RM50 unlimited mau tak?
I got this info from a LYN surfer too. Working in Vietnam.

i dun mind them monitoring my downloads and stuff I'm a clean guy

I don't even think their upgrading their Intl line.

Plus their new T&C, it's impossible to imagine that TM actually upgrade their Intl. line.

I bet you guys gonna like this

It easy lor, later APPN undersea cable broken again.

shame to Malaysia........

even they got 8Mbps.

Prasys, you have any insight in this issue?

Yeahh... this type of package that i want. They mention speed for international line.

someone convert to MYR currency!!!

waaa...4Mbps just for rm120..best giler

i pay 24 pounds for 24mbs when i was in UK

If the phone cable did not open up for all providers,the broadband market will not advance...That is what I going to say about this~

Okay I got it..


128Kbps RM45
256Kbps RM45
512Kbps RM59
1Mbps RM89
2Mbps RM99
4Mbps RM119
8Mbps RM199


This post has been edited by fabianz03: Apr 19 2009, 11:17 AM

Easy...Just remove 1 zero and that is it

To all TM staffs/monkeys/CEO/porks that are reading this.

Please compare MY and other countries to improve your service.
Even Thailand, now political so unstable, still can provide 8Mbps for RM199.
We need to pay RM299 for 4Mbps.
What shyt are you guys providing?
Pork shit?

This is what i am trying to say earlier.. Though internet may be a part of everyday life for us younger generations.. a lot of people still do not know (or even want to) go online. Internet is not a priority.

Though the internet is an essential part of communication.. We are still a developing country..
If i am the Prime Minister, I would prioritize road works over the internet. Majority ALWAYS wins.

Most of my friends do not want to subscribe the service since they think it is too expensive...
If they want to surf,they will go to place like KFC for free WiFi

Wow, very transparent!

AGREEE ... WELL SAID

but internet is under control of TM not government .. its TM that decides to upgrade.. or what
not the government.. its two very different things

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Added on April 19, 2009, 11:23 amnow you know how worthless and how monkey the people that is running the glc/the gov and essentially the country..



This post has been edited by JinXXX: Apr 19 2009, 11:23 AM

I have an news about Taiwan says that their BB price is too expensive...

The news is written in Chinese if your can read....
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url/d/a/0...6/52/1grab.html

My blog do have an simple summary for it but do not expect good English from me
http://x10amin.blogspot.com/2009/03/taiwan...-expensive.html

if like this and the speed guaranteed atleast 80% from advertised speed and stable..expect me to get the RM200(8MB) package..

http://m1.com.sg/M1/site/M1Corp/menuitem.e...ate:0904191138:

Max line 100mb.

the same theory, why are we buying proton car so expensive if we can get a toyota/honda at that price.

Blame the govt !!!!!

yeah our internet still expensive.... even for streamyx combo, the cheapest one is rm 60, do you believe makcik/pakcik in the kampung2 can "paid" this.... even their utilities bill like electricity and water below than rm 20 (that mean you get free if live at selangor) so do you think they want to pay rm 60 for slowest speed of internet????(in their heart say better save this money...heheheh) hope our government talk to tm to revise back the price of internet....

my humble thinking.... not more than that....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1003477/+0&#entry25244169


this one is slowpoke..imagine how much it will cost

Can you just OPEN YOUR EYES WIDE OPEN and read what I type?
Read the title, don't just watch the video.

geez,,, naive.

This post has been edited by fabianz03: Apr 19 2009, 11:53 AM

i read ur post la brother...hahaha..i'm one of the vendor involve in the FTTH...still under testing...u are the one...nAIVE...hahahah..slowpoke

welcome to the real world fellas.

Yes this is the issue. Just like any brand new technology, the price will eventually be reduce as demand increases and technology advances. Its just like when the PC just came out, it was very expensive back then..RM4999 for Pentium233Mhz processor. Not everyone uses the PC back then.

Initiative to provide quality service on the part of TM is a different story though..

bolehland mah. sure alot law protected cronies sell rubbish with expensive price and claim as the faster and the cheaper in country.

This post has been edited by capcomfly: Apr 19 2009, 01:12 PM

Is this a 'conspiracy' theory? :-)

and then why they dont compare our internet services??? when they increase oil,toll,electric,sugar, and anything, they like to use a comparison..... why dont compare our internet speed and price????

someone who know about the internet speed and price (asean region) please write a letter and then post to berita harian/utusan/and many more place.....

Would you pay Rm203 for 8 Mbps? and not guaranteed at that?

Good to know. Well at least the broadband pricing is better so you can spend the money on say.. VPN or tunneling to mask what anim* your downloading.

The point of having 8mbps is to download online gaming upgrades/patches since you dont want to spend a long time updating your game, to play the game. Gaming generally requires less than 1mbps to operate.

The problem is, majority doesn't win. Proof? Nobody is pissed (at least nobody who MATTERS in the media industry) to even lift a finger to give so much as a nudged to TM to WAKE THE F*CK UP and realize there're being sh*theads and not doing their job properly.

Like some ppl said, some ppl don't even use the computer, the internet? Yeah the have definitely heard of it but since they live in rural areas, they cant use it even if they want to (no coverage in the 21st century for a country the size of MALAYSIA, nice TMnet!).

This post has been edited by ahpek26: Apr 19 2009, 04:04 PM

If it's reliable why not?

u know y sg can do until so fast and malaysia so slow speed browsing international webpage mah?
becos the govement want us to support local things.
such as BMW and Proton.
BMW kena high tax and Proton low tax.
If we can, use better ISP such as Satelite

No more Facebook, Yahoo!, Gmail, MSN, etc.
They're not local.
Don't ever browse these websites.
Or you get cought you then say no support local.

Go TheStar everyday, and LYN. what else?

but every ppl still supporting international website such as facebook, friendster

TM treats so much unnecessary workers as like PBA when 1 plumber problem need 6-7 persons come to your house but do job just few of them, the rest will stand beside smoking

I would be laughing if they use "Malaysia is bigger than Singapore" as an excuse. What about Korea, Japan and US? They are bigger than Malaysia.

The policies needs a change and competition is needed. Companies will work harder when they get a competition.

This post has been edited by TristanX: Apr 19 2009, 09:34 PM

Anyone working for a ISP, what is your view or explanation for this 'expensive' issue?

Anyone working for P1 or Digi?

Yea. Couldn't agree more. In Japan, I remembered broadband cables are placed on poles before coming to your house, much like electrical wires here. Thus, it would not be wrong to say that the overall cost to roll out broadband is cheaper over there. However, that shouldn't really matter as with competition, broadband prices can be driven down no matter the circumstances.

On the other note, I've recently read an article on Star Biz and was surprised to find that the broadband penetration rate of Malaysia is on par with that of South Korea and Taiwan back in 1996. Now, the delta is super huge. I wonder what were we doing over the past 1 decade. We could have been a nation with blazingly fast and cheap broadband connection if it wasn't for TM Net's reluctance to open up its infrastructure.

even if penetration is same , there are still factor liek when streamyx is introduce , how many ppl can afford 512 with hourly charge those day ....

surfing with 128kbps(dial up) compare with 1Mbps is pretty big ....

well , the progress is not that good for streamyx since 1996 then i guess

You know.

I wouldn't mind streamyx giving me 1Mbps, so long they PROVIDE this speed 95% of the time.

Of course they can't even do this, even when others are offering 8Mbps.

Honestly, those running TM has no sense of pride.

1996 you say. What broadband was there then? In 1996, the 28.8K modem I bought was top end and Jaring didn't have full 28.8K coverage even in KL. 64K ISDN was the next step up if you could afford it.

Is this information confidential? People in ISPs cannot talk about their industry either the truth is 'shocking' or due to 'self-regulation'.

i think what he means is Malaysia broadband now equal to Korea broadband back in 1996

You must be abit slow in something. Googling turned out this result : http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...87&sec=business

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Added on April 20, 2009, 8:27 amThere fixed

The Penetration rates was done by statistics and survey before rolling DSL into the land.

This post has been edited by onscreen: Apr 20 2009, 08:27 AM

Thanks for bringing that article up, but it doesn't address my question. What broadband was there to speak about in 1996?

I don't think any broadband worth speaking of existed back then. My guess is that the reporter slipped up and wrote broadband penetration instead of internet penetration.

Hm? where else in the world can you get broadband for Rm66 (US$18) a month?

Cost of Singnet 1Mbps plan (http://www.singnet.com.sg/plans_and_services/broadband/snbb.asp?snbb=1Matl) is US$ 13.33 (S$20/1.5). I can confirm download speed of at least 900kbps from US servers anytime of the day.

This post has been edited by oumind: Apr 20 2009, 12:25 PM

Off Topic,

When u are comparing Singnet / Starhub with Jaring.

Jaring is definitely faster and low latency comparing with singnet/Starhub.

As a result,
Malaysia Jaring ISP > Singapore Internet ISP.

One of the main reason is, Jaring has lesser subscriber and they are quite strict.


( I own Starhub, Qala(singnet) and Jaring, dedicated server )

Not many places Jaring cover, if my area got Jaring coverage, i will straight away switch to them

No download caps?

I download around 30-50G per month. Never experience or heard of download cap from Singnet.

Download anything illegal?

Your question ('illegal') answer it

BTW the original post is not regarding expensive bandwidth for illegal activities.

Hm? Almost anywhere.

The thing is that.
We want faster speed not cheaper.


If they can give the speed. Then I don`t care the price.
IF we got 2 ISP. And have the same speed and stability.
Then I go for price.


Speed and Reliability then Price

Back during the dial up days, we have a choice of TMNut or Jaring. We had pretty good days back then, and TMNut was always on their toes.

Now with broadband there is only TMNut. The TMNuts insists on listing wireless service providers as competition but the wireless networks caters for a very different market. It is not direct competition.

The fact that our country's broadband is still at stone age is testament to Streamyx's monopoly. Plain and simple. The monopoly must end. Now.

what can i say it...

i like my line!!!!

1.3mbps, could let me done a lots of things already... i even no nid to worry of my downloads things.. sometimes i even dont hav things to download.

in other countries, as singapore for comparison. u couldnt BT at ALL!! so no point..

but anyway, i didnt BT now.. changed my style of gettings stuff online.. much more faster with a little price.. much better.. i could use up all my 1.3mbps to download it.. rather than stupid BT slow like shit n jam up our modem our line our international line..

rkwan67, if you agree broadband is more expensive in Malaysia, do you have any explanation? If you do not agree broadband is more expensive in Malaysia, care to educate me ? :-)



This post has been edited by oumind: Apr 22 2009, 10:58 AM