izit at KL also de?? the same gang doin dis?? they scam also foreigners....damn dem...

I think is the same because also getting jade mattress. but he din get the product yet. only paid. he got cheated at bukit jalil if i not mistaken. he on his way back to wangsa maju.

I am thinking can we all meet up and go together with Mr Chin to their office. in order to collect all for once rather than we all borther Mr Chin one by one.. my contact is 0129339460 (phoon).. which i personally feel even we get the award, but those punk will not entertain us at all.

Hi Sharul,
can please share the step you have taken in order to get the refund, the link seem can't access. Many victims are still outsite
thank you thank you

hey...i written the scammer's name and IC as pihak penentang...is dat ok?? coz..i cant manage to get their company reg. no......

Did you get the company cop during submit the tribinal form? Or sent by AR? you can check the company detail at SSM website but need to pay RM15 just to get the company information (dame it). The company that i got cheated is at Taman Danau Desa.

laytzehpin, i have contacted few time to Mr Chin, but seem like no action from them yet (mention they are in the middle of discuss of the case) .... and i come across with the name Mr Raja in the forum, which he are able to help to get back at least 50% refund. Was thinking of his way rather than waiting for northing. Even is 50% refund but better than northing or rather let those Fxxxxx outside.. CCB...........

i sent it by ar.....and get back the yellow card already.....pihak penentang of mine is the scammer.....and i found out the damn mn&mt enterprise de info already...i think i juz can add on the info i found to the ttpm.....

how mr raja can settle dis case?? hav u contacted him??

This post has been edited by xblaster_91: May 18 2010, 11:16 PM

Ic. the tribinal form i sent by hand, and i also sent another letter using AR on cooling period letter (which mention in the forum is very important) (Must be whithin 10 days after the scam). MCA also ask me to do this. Which waiting for the card return before the hearing case on June 8. Which i feel no use also for the hearing case even if win the case, they wont bother us and no action taken by tribinal.. WTF....
Because i have contacted Mr Chin which he mention will provide help and to get back 70% - 80%, so i were need to wait for another 2 days on what is the action will be taken by him.
i also have call Mr raja, he is the "MEN" so called in the forum who will help to get back the refund by 24 hours. But he only garantee on 50% but depends on the urguement with the scamer. He have his own way of doing. (many people get help from him and get back the refund - not full)
i am waiting mr chin feedback before i will meet Mr Raja.. Get back 50% rather than northing or rather give those Fxxxx used. CCB~~~

cooling period letter?? wads dat?? btw...the case of mine already passed 1 month and monday is my hearing date...any1 hav any suggestion after i get the award letter?? izit i'll surely win the award?? will the scammer attend the court (they always say: "anything speak at the court!") which i felt quite weird....and....will i need to bring the things i got (damn jade mattress and induction cooker) besides the documents??

This post has been edited by xblaster_91: May 19 2010, 05:40 PM

i think normally we will win on the hearing case.. get the award.. but the scamer wont care about it... mostly go until the court which i heard waste another around rm500 for that. Full refund anot i also not sure.. i am still waiting my hearing case.

kk..try our best to get back the money lo....wad2do?? Gov not helping...police not helping....politician helps abit....justice is not at our site.....

I think we must fight to get back full refund. the award stated that if they refuse to pay back the money they will be fined rm5000 or sentence to jail. that didnt apply? if we just get back only certain amount means they still get money by cheating ppl. that's y they can keep doing it. they don care whether they give back money o not. we shudnt let them untung in tat way.

anything you want to ask can ask me as i had been helping people getting back their money.

Step 1 :Lodge a police report

Make sure u bring along all the proper documentation, such as the receipt, or any other documents that is related to the scam. i once come across people who had the real IC of the scammer, so bring along as well. once you at the police station, make sure you tell exactly how it happen from beginning until the end. Remember never miss out a single detail there including the time, location and so on. The police will refer you to the consumer tribunal

Step 2: Go to Consumer tribunal @ The Mall

Bring along the police report and also the appropriate document which you had been using in the police report, make sure you photocopied the police report and all the document before going to the tribunal in case you need to compile it with the tribunal. Once you fill up the yellow form provided, one copy is for you to keep it and the other one you have to give it to the scammer yourself. When handling the form to the scammer please remember

* Never go alone, bring along some friends with camera and take down the photo of you pretending drop in the form to their letter box, make sure the letter box number is being captured. Only then u hand in the form to the scammer, usually they will not give u the company chop. So the photo could be used as evidence during your hearing, that you had give them the letter.

Step 3: Hearing

On the day of the hearing, the president will help u all out. so don't worry, but make sure you bring along your document as well as the photo to show your prove that you had give in the form to the scammer. The president will ask u to swear that whatever you said is true and ask u a few question. Then the award will be given to you, and again after the award is given, you also need to hand in the award letter to the scammer yourself as well. Repeat the above mentioned step (Take photo) and then go see a commissioner of oath and take a oath swearing that u had give in the award letter to the scammer. Remember write in the detail of how u give the award letter, when and how. Please bring along your friend when u hand in as a witness for you.

Step 4: After 2 weeks of award

The scammer will give back money? NO. they will not do anything, so you have to go to The mall again but this time to the enforcement officer, basically they are to enforce the award. but however they are useless. But anyway you must make a report to the enforcement office 2 weeks of the award date. Of course bring along the commissioner of oath paper and all the previous documents. They will tell u something that "it is hard to get back the money"

Step 5: See a political party leader for help

Malaysian scare of government and politician, and that is a bit true. at least for those scammer, so you have to see a person whom have great social influence. Such as Datuk Michael Chong from MCA public complaint department. but however the service girl there are very impolite and not helpful, so choose any day but not wednesday to see Datuk yourself. he is good and will help u out, with his pressure the scammer will be pressured to call you or take action to settle with you. Remember, always take your own initiative to follow up with the MCA to update the status.

Step 6: Take back money

With both government and politician pressure, the scammer should be feeling the pitch. And will make a settlement with you, usually reduce amount (example : Cheated RM8000- RM2k or RM3k = RM5k.) of course fight to the maximum or not is up to your guts, some people don't want to take risk while some are willing to fight till the end. Beware, when you go to their office to take the money, they will find thousand of excuse to reduce the amount paid to you, such as the accessories of the electronic are missing and so on. So be more careful, always remember to bring more friend there. When take money from the office remember

* Do not bring any weapons as a means of defend - they have many people unless you can bring over 50 people
* At least have 2 cars and more than 1 person in the car and drive to the banks once you get the cash and bank it in immediately to avoid the scammer robe it back from you!
that is all i can share, any further question please pm me or ask it here.

By the way, they are still cheating people in Plaza Rakyat.

Is this the steps you talking about?

I just got scammed RM5k yesterday. Their office is at Kuchai Lama, but I can't recall which floor it is. 41-2, 1/116B, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, 58200 KL this address?

The person in charge has been saying that he'll help me sell off the jade mattress for more than RM5k. I think he's just trying to delay my time. Going to lodge a police report tomorrow, but unfortunately PPIM doesn't open on Sunday right? It's located inside The Mall?

I have the person's full name and IC number, the receipt they gave me and my ATM withdrawal receipts. I didn't keep the scan and win card thingy though. Will these proof be sufficient?

They're from so-called MN & MT Enterprise. But the office seems new and there was no signboard-claimed to have been blown off by wind -.-

I just got scammed yesterday. Their office is at Kuchai Lama, but I can't recall which floor it is. 41-2, 1/116B, Kuchai Entrepreneurs Park, 58200 KL this address?

Going to lodge a police report tomorrow, but unfortunately PPIM doesn't open on Sunday right? It's located inside The Mall?

I have the person's full name and IC number, the receipt they gave me and my ATM withdrawal receipts. I didn't keep the scan and win card thingy though. Will these proof be sufficient? sad.gif

They're from so-called MN & MT Enterprise. But the office seems new and there was no signboard-claimed to have been blown off by wind -.-

This post has been edited by copykate: Sep 5 2015, 04:40 PM

just go to ppim or ttpm. it is located at 16th floor the mall near pwtc. just fill in the form and pass one copy to the scammer. don forget to bring frens along as witness and take photos as proof that you have sent the form to them.

really hope the government will take action on them. please sign for this petition:
http://www.gopetition.com/online/34979.html

anyone got their money back through mr.raja? is he trustable??

this is rly sad. just on friday i saw 2 girls from outstation getting scam, i tried to tell them but they wouldnt listen to me

why isnt there more awareness about this ? in the newspapers, someone should write an article about this.

sigh, i got scammed on friay too. wish there was someone there who could tell me about it. too late