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eric138
post Apr 21 2009, 02:11 PM

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pls read first page for basic GP info..
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Roborovskii @ Apr 21 2009, 02:06 PM)
i got some question to ask abt GP...

is that gp a kind of rat or hamster etc???

is that gp's food kinda same wif hamster? (i got 2 roborovskii in my room)

Is that gp potty will cause a strong smell???( this 1 vry important,my mom kill me off if got)
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Yes they are a rodent BUT NOT a rat or hamster.. They do belong to the Caviidae family.

GP food is NOT the same with hamsters.. if you think of saving coz you already have hamsters, then this isnt your kind of pet.

GP can be potty trained if you have persistence in training them.. They poo neatly and gets dry.. it wont smell UNLESS you dont change their enclosure often. I change my GP cage every 4-5 days.. it takes a lot of work because they poo and pee a lot. They are also heavy eaters.

@Chinchillas - have you reported such action and have the SPCA ever responded to such call?

Edit: I have just gotten off the phone with a nice lady from SPCA ampang.. She told me the real story.. They DONT in general take actions towards such cases (Things that we discussed before). There are more concerned with wellbeing of Dogs and Cats. Because she said when it comes to small and furry.. its too general. They cant do anything much. It will be a little waste of time and effort, furthermore she refuse to take on the details i have with me on pet safari.. but instead asks me to email it to spca. Take note also... SPCA HAS INSUFFICIENT FUNDS to fund themselves. Venturing into these kind of actions will also involve money.. which they dont have much of.. Also as far as i know.. there is no such hierarchy in SPCA where there are managers, supervisors etc etc.. This is a voluntary/charity body...

So... i dont think there wont be any action taken.. eventually.. it will lead back to us as consumers.. what we can do is just boycott the livestocks in safari.. thats all. I will be calling PAWS tomorrow and get an insight from their side to see if anything they can do.. but i doubt the results will be sunny side up smile.gif

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post Apr 21 2009, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Chinchillas @ Apr 21 2009, 02:00 PM)

No, that is not true, they 'do care' for other small animal.  You need to speak to their 'Manager' there, loaded your self with all the bullet, and tell them what is going on. They will visit the shop if your case is very serious, like the animals is extream skinny, no food or water. Other then that, SPCA will not be able to do anything to any pet shop. Even they have take action to visited the pet shop, even is get fine, TILL THIS MOMENT, none of the pet shop will be easily afraid of that, cause our penalty is too little.... let's say RM100. BUT SPCA have better way to make the pet shop to change a little bit and paid attention on the particular animal by using other proper method as well.(please call your self to find out, I can't share this over here.) tongue.gif

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u sounds like u deal with SPCA often? Then can you make us a favor to inform the 'Manager' regards the condition of small animals include GP, SG in pets safari?

OH ya, SPCA need photo to prove, no photo they wouldn't go to do anything...so pls equip urself with the pics ya...thanks a lot....

You are really animal lover!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Apr 21 2009, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Apr 21 2009, 01:09 PM)
about the 'don't support pet shop that sale underage or unhealthy pets', sometime we hv to blame ourself also.  the consumer always say so loudly don't want to support these type of pet shop, yet when these type of shop like toby pet in pet safari hving promotion or big sale. still all these 'talk big' ppl rush n buy their things.  the world is round, while we buy anything from them, end up also supporting them. those profit they make will help them buy in more unhealthy pets n so on..

if u really think u not going to support these type of pet shop, especiall lousy like toby pet, ask urself again if there are BIG SALE, will u go? say RM1 for 1 cage? or RM1 for a pack of food? will u go?? 

before we scolding them, its time to make up our own mind.. did we do our own part...
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I disagree.First, we did not say we dont support the pet shop. we only said we dont encourage to buy GP in Ikano..mean that we do not support the live-life animal in Ikano.

Second, even though they having BIG SALE for the animal...it's still NOT WORTH..coz those are unhealthy animals..less say if 15 ringgit per guinea pig(50% off).but the guinea pig is having kinda disease like fungus,mite or lice.so that the cost for healing the diseases should be count into the cost..i personally classified as implicit cost to it. For my case i spent 44 ringgit for the medical and the consultation fee. so total spend for one GP cost me RM59. its actually more expensive than the cost u spend on those petshop who selling healthy GP.right?

Third we are not scolding them,we just need to raise up the public awareness.coz we dont hope that the buyer loss their money in buying such unhealthy animal and end up disappointed with it.
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:38 PM

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hmm...such statement from Chinchillas...SPCA are more 2 cats and dogs...if they got other furry/small animals i wold take a look for them for my hedgie...its been years the same problems occur 2 spca...not enough workers and no funds for them self...about action taken not sure la...how much fine ka bape...but i think most of the pet shops are like that...thats why i prefer breeder...a lil bit safer 2 buy pets....

btw...if u dunt mind care 2 share ur 'story' with us? i oso want 2 know which SPCA is so 'rajin' 2 do that....

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post Apr 21 2009, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(scorpgal @ Apr 21 2009, 02:37 PM)
I disagree.First, we did not say we dont support the pet shop. we only said we dont encourage to buy GP in Ikano..mean that we do not support the live-life animal in Ikano.

Second, even though they having BIG SALE for the animal...it's still NOT WORTH..coz those are unhealthy animals..less say if 15 ringgit per guinea pig(50% off).but the guinea pig is having kinda disease like fungus,mite or lice.so that the cost for healing the diseases should be count into the cost..i personally classified as implicit cost to it. For my case i spent 44 ringgit for the medical and the consultation fee. so total spend for one GP cost me RM59. its actually more expensive than the cost u spend on those petshop who selling healthy GP.right?

Third we are not scolding them,we just need to raise up the public awareness.coz we dont hope that the buyer loss their money in buying such unhealthy animal and end up disappointed with it.
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Dear i dont understand.. by reading your reply seems like you agree with nezu..but you say you disagree? sweat.gif
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Apr 21 2009, 02:17 PM)
@Chinchillas - have you reported such action and have the SPCA ever responded to such call?

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yes, I reported before, that's why i know. :blush SPCA will respond to you, provided you loaded with bullet(proof, knowledge of GP care, 100% sure of all that you said is fact)


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QUOTE(eric138 @ Apr 21 2009, 02:27 PM)
u sounds like u deal with SPCA often? Then can you make us a favor to inform the 'Manager'  regards the condition of small animals include GP, SG in pets safari?

OH ya,  SPCA need photo to prove, no photo they wouldn't go to do anything...so pls equip urself with the pics ya...thanks a lot....

You are really animal lover!!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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I am not deal with SPCA often, but deal with them 'few' time before. Photos is only give a bit of help. They need to see the case, from what i see on GP in pet safari, SPCA wont be able act on that, cause they still in the boundaries of feeding the animal and the animals is still active. blush.gif

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QUOTE(Chinchillas @ Apr 21 2009, 02:50 PM)
yes, I reported before, that's why i know. blush.gif
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When was this? Did you get any feedback after reporting?? Coz i just called them a few minutes ago.. the lady was being very sincere in answering my questions..
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Apr 21 2009, 02:54 PM)
When was this? Did you get any feedback after reporting?? Coz i just called them a few minutes ago.. the lady was being very sincere in answering my questions..
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I reported a cases on year end of 2006, they responded. Yes, they will answer your questions and will explain to you what is they authurity and what they can do. But this is is EXTREAME untill i cannot tolerated, so I called. I dont find GP in Pet safari on that 'level' yet for any of your who care to act on that. As a said, they feed them, no sickness, no 'big big' problem'.

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post Apr 21 2009, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Chinchillas @ Apr 21 2009, 02:57 PM)
I reported a cases on year end of 2006, they responded. Yes, they will answer your questions and will explain to you what is they authurity and what they can do. But this is is EXTREAME untill i cannot tolerated, so I called. I dont find GP in Pet safari on that 'level' yet for any of your who care to act on that. As a said, they feed them, no sickness, no 'big big' problem'.
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They might have changed the modus operandi then.. Its now 2009. Things work differently i guess..
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post Apr 21 2009, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Apr 21 2009, 02:49 PM)
Dear i dont understand.. by reading your reply seems like you agree with nezu..but you say you disagree?  sweat.gif
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My point is , As standing the point of consumers..i will still not buying any GP or animal in those irresponsible petshop even though they are having BIG SALES
those who choose to buy coz they didnt know the implicit cost to the product they bought.like someone said it wont be so cheap RM 1 for food or cages..it may have some problem with the product..like goign to expired for food product

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post Apr 21 2009, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(scorpgal @ Apr 21 2009, 02:37 PM)
I disagree.First, we did not say we dont support the pet shop. we only said we dont encourage to buy GP in Ikano..mean that we do not support the live-life animal in Ikano.

Second, even though they having BIG SALE for the animal...it's still NOT WORTH..coz those are unhealthy animals..less say if 15 ringgit per guinea pig(50% off).but the guinea pig is having kinda disease like fungus,mite or lice.so that the cost for healing the diseases should be count into the cost..i personally classified as implicit cost to it. For my case i spent 44 ringgit for the medical and the consultation fee. so total spend for one GP cost me RM59. its actually more expensive than the cost u spend on those petshop who selling healthy GP.right?

Third we are not scolding them,we just need to raise up the public awareness.coz we dont hope that the buyer loss their money in buying such unhealthy animal and end up disappointed with it.
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erm.... let me clarify what nezumitaro said... basically she said people always said they don support unethical petshop by not getting the live-life animal from them. But at the same time, they go and buy those accessories or toys... In fact, although u jus buy those toys or non-living products, they are still earning money!! And they will still use the profit from the accessories to bring in more and more unhealthy animals!!

Conclusion, if we said we don support unethical petshop, tat means we should even stop buying non-living products from there~
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post Apr 21 2009, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Xiawa @ Apr 21 2009, 02:09 PM)
actually the fungus problem need to be cure as soon as possible
for me I will take him/her go to Dr.J immdiately
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But what the vet told me,
if after two weeks it still not recovery,
then bring him back and she want to cut his skin and do examine on his skin.
and now just the fourth day being treatment of med.
This morning I helped my Latte clean it infection area and fed med as usual,
but I could see some little fur are growing up.
smile.gif

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post Apr 21 2009, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Apr 21 2009, 03:01 PM)
They might have changed the modus operandi then.. Its now 2009. Things work differently i guess..
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What do you mean? You mean they dont act any more or they will act even more?
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post Apr 21 2009, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(meiixiin @ Apr 21 2009, 03:19 PM)
But what the vet told me,
if after two weeks it still not recovery,
then bring him back and she want to cut his skin and do examine on his skin.
and now just the fourth day being treatment of med.
This morning I helped my Latte clean it infection area and fed med as usual,
but I could see some little fur are growing up.
smile.gif
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Good to hear tat. Means He's Healing up rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 21 2009, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(SugarCoatedCandy @ Apr 20 2009, 02:07 PM)
You will have to take her out.. bonding takes a lot of time, if she keeps running and struggling when you wanna pick her up, you can try luring her with her favorite veges and then slowly patting her... and then gently cup from her tummy and carry her out of the cage. And during floor time, you can lay still and let her explore you. If you have a soft baby brush, you can put her on your lap and then brush her.. my 2 girls loveeeee when it comes to brushing.. they will purrr and purrrr... like nobody's business.. But saphira the small one is still stubborn at times when i wanna take her out laugh.gif just remember, bonding takes time, so don't be discouraged if it takes really long to bond~ good luck wink.gif
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 20 2009, 02:21 PM)
Sugar has given you some tips already, so I would just add in my style a bit...once you catch her out, still hold her tight (to avoid accidentally drop her when she struggle), one hand hold her armpit area, and another hand support her bud and hind legs area.  Put her face directly face to face with you at very close distance, let her look at you closely, you look into her eyes and and talk to her too, gently comb with your finger on her nose and between eyes area.  Hold her like that whenever you took her out several times.  After some times she won't be scared of you so much.
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thx guys, i will continue bonding with her~~ flex.gif

just come back from my presentation~ have not sleep since yesterday, now so blur and cant even think
haha~~ i just clean her cage and going to bed now..
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post Apr 21 2009, 04:04 PM

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my GPs keep sneezing for the past few days.. but they dont show any signs/symptoms of having flu... no watery poo.. no teary eyes or discharge from eyes and nose.. still active and eating like normal..

worry if they are having flu as the weather lately ki siao 1.. me and my family got sick 1 by 1.. worry my gps..

any advice?shud i bring them for the vet to have a check?
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QUOTE(nzx10 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:33 PM)
thx guys, i will continue bonding with her~~ flex.gif

just come back from my presentation~ have not sleep since yesterday, now so blur and cant even think
haha~~ i just clean her cage and going to bed now..
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Better take care of your health too lol.. not just your Piggies.. good luck with bonding nod.gif

QUOTE(CKW008 @ Apr 21 2009, 04:04 PM)
my GPs keep sneezing for the past few days.. but they dont show any signs/symptoms of having flu... no watery poo.. no teary eyes or discharge from eyes and nose.. still active and eating like normal..

worry if they are having flu as the weather lately ki siao 1.. me and my family got sick 1 by 1.. worry my gps..

any advice?shud i bring them for the vet to have a check?
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it could be upper respiratory infection. But i can't be certain.. its best you go to the vet as soon as possible smile.gif
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QUOTE(meiixiin @ Apr 21 2009, 03:19 PM)
But what the vet told me,
if after two weeks it still not recovery,
then bring him back and she want to cut his skin and do examine on his skin.
and now just the fourth day being treatment of med.
This morning I helped my Latte clean it infection area and fed med as usual,
but I could see some little fur are growing up.
smile.gif
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glad to hear that,
wish her get well soon wub.gif
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I heard that if got pregnant women in the house then cannot have GP or hamster pet wan wor.. Izzit true ar?

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