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jchong
post Dec 14 2011, 10:15 PM

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The purple backlight is funky!

Wah your CM8 is on top of the shelf?! Why not put it on the floor?
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post Dec 17 2011, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 16 2011, 12:31 AM)
dual wall construction is quite normal in european countries as it provides a good insulation between the outside and inside wall. lots of people are reporting good feedback from the use of such construction method to provide a sound barrier between walls.

it's quite unheard of in this country because people don't really need to have a good insulation to the outside. it's used quite extensively in the construction of modular building and industrialized building systems. the government are trying to push ibs for local adoption. and with ibs building material (composite wall sandwitched by concrete) dual wall would be a normal thing especially for multi storey building as a single ibs wall don't have enough load bearing capacity to support multiple storey on top of it.

but i guess a hifi salesman would know nuts about building construction.
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I don't see the point in talking about dual wall construction since it is unheard of locally and less relevant here (due to local climate), in particular in the context of landed property (which is what was being discussed). It is highly unlikely that local developers will adopt the dual wall construction for landed property, so for the majority of people who buy their houses from developers there will be no chance of getting it.

The government may be trying to push for it, but the real test is in whether it is adopted by the industry. Even if it is adopted, it may only be in limited applications. Only time will tell. In the meantime dual wall construction will be a pipe dream for most people in Malaysia.

Of course I don't expect a hifi salesman to know anything about building construction. Neither do I expect a banker, lawyer, doctor, teacher, accountant, scientist, etc to know about it either. So if you're insulting htkaki's knowledge (or lack thereof) of building construction, then indirectly you're insulting all the other people too.

This post has been edited by jchong: Dec 17 2011, 11:07 AM
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post Dec 17 2011, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Dec 17 2011, 08:19 PM)
8TC: I get more black background, wider sound stage (more separation) and a laid back warmer sound compared to my previous Taralabs RSC Gen II.
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Do you prefer the laid back warmer sound?
jchong
post Dec 18 2011, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 18 2011, 08:30 PM)
In my defense, I did felt a bit of belittlement when my question about dual wall got dished out before there’s even any discussion about it.


I hope you did not construe my response about dual wall as belittling your idea. I simply pointed out that it is not commercially practical and hence developers will not do it and hence most people who live in developer-built houses would not get to enjoy dual wall construction. Therefore, for most people dual wall is a moot issue.

The technical merit behind dual wall construction is well established. Certainly if you have the ability to build your own house then you can incorporate it and enjoy its benefits. In which case, it also means that you are not "most people", which is a good thing.

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The reason being for my question is that I consulted my wife about the viability of constructing a basement home theater room as jchong’s, but my wife did said that it’s not advisable especially in the proposed location as there’s a clear risk of water seepage.  The fact that it’s so close to the sea waterline and the rise of waterline during high tide to about a feet above land level makes it even riskier.  The location is also flanked by paddy fields and a river. Porous land, paddy fields, a river and less than 50 feet from the waterline. Bad idea.

Not that it can’t be done, but it will require lots of properly planned water insulation material. Even then there’s still no guarantee it will stop water from reaching the interior walls. The material will eventually fail in time, just like the problem with upstairs toilet. So the basement idea had to go.

I was thinking of dual wall construction as it may be better in stopping sound from penetrating to the adjacent room as the idea is to put the ht room next to the main bedroom. The ht room with be at a corner thus needing dual wall erected only at 2 wall facing the interior. If people would consider erecting a false wall using plywood inside their ht room, dual wall with brick would require even less space to build.

I know this is not a construction forum, but thinking that this had something to do with home theater I’m hoping it’s not out of place to be discussed.  Any constructive criticism would be much appreciated. No pun intended.
Talking about the construction aspects of a home theater room is certainly a valid topic. Don't we have a thread about that somewhere?

Yes, having a basement where the water table is high is riskier. You would have to design and construct it properly with particular attention paid to waterproofing. It can be done, but will involve extra expense. Another point is ventilation, which also has to be designed in otherwise the basement will get stuffy and humidity is also higher.

Given your situation a HT room on the ground or first floor may be more practical and you can go with the dual wall option. I think anybody who is building a dedicated HT room in his own-built house should do that. Makes a lot of sense since you don't disturb the other occupants as much.
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Dec 19 2011, 10:05 AM)
humidity is a major concern especially near the sea. someone did mention before this  that the speaker cone damage is accelerated in humid condition. i'm guessing it'll be a lot worse in a hot and humid weather.
thanks for not quoting the spoiler. snippet removed.
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Humidity can potentially affect the speaker cones and surrounds (rate depends on material). It may even affect the furniture (since also wood based).
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Dec 19 2011, 11:26 AM)
I have a dehumidifier running in my basement and also an HEPA air filter and for the odour. They solved the humidity and odour problem effectively.
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Do you have the dehumidifier and HEPA filter running 24/7?

As htkaki said, the solution is available just involves extra cost to purchase and to run.

Using a hygrometer I found that my basement is about 15-20% higher RH than ground floor.
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post Dec 19 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Dec 19 2011, 11:59 AM)
I only run the thing like 2 times at 4-6 hours per week.

and my TNB bill only around RM50 per month....so don't care lar  tongue.gif  sweat.gif
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You got 'special' meter mah biggrin.gif
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post Dec 19 2011, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 19 2011, 12:00 PM)
Correct if I am wrong. Metal elements products will also susceptible to faster corrosion since it is near the sea. This in general and not withstanding auido/visual equipments alone.
Yes, due to some salt content in the air. Particularly, if the metal items are outside. Quite common you'll see the aircon rack being corroded for properties near the sea.

Can solve by getting the metal better/thicker galvanized or powder coated.
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post Dec 19 2011, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Yangon @ Dec 19 2011, 12:18 PM)
Mpyw - Are you kidding?....my small house TNB bill also at least RM450/month.
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Wah, what are you running in your house?
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post Dec 19 2011, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Yangon @ Dec 19 2011, 12:42 PM)
Jchong or any lyn HT kaki: what is the cost of building a Underground basement for a room about 20'x 14'.


I'd guess about 25-30k.
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post Dec 19 2011, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(SunofaBeach @ Dec 19 2011, 07:55 PM)
I have heard about land beyond 4 ft below ground level is no longer belong to house owner, is that true?


I don't think that is correct.

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post Dec 19 2011, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Yangon @ Dec 19 2011, 08:26 PM)
Thanks,, I am aware of the piping problem which have to reroute, but didn't know the 4ft rule,, if that's the case no point doing as I am thinking about digging 10 feet under.


The existence of basements and underground car parks should indicate that it's entirely possible to dig down 10' or more.

If you like the idea of a basement, do consult your architect.
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 19 2011, 10:24 PM)
IMHO, building a basement would be quite impossible for a terrace house. For a Semi D and bungalow, I guess one needs sufficient land to work around it. Messy but the end result could be very rewarding. The need to dig deep down as well as the foundation of the existing house are the main problems. Even if there is a way around it, it would not be a cheap affair. Correct me if I am wrong.
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For a pre-existing terrace house, yes quite impossible to add a basement.

Even for a pre-existing semi-d or bungalow the basement would have to be located under one part of the garden. You would not do it below the existing house. As you said, problems with the existing foundations plus also pipes, etc. Also problem with supporting the ground floor slab while you're digging.
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post Dec 19 2011, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 19 2011, 11:15 PM)
Oh yes, is there any need to do a soil test under the law for a basement project?
Don't think so. Normally the soil test is to determine the foundation for building up. Basement is digging down, so soil test isn't critical.
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post Dec 20 2011, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Yangon @ Dec 19 2011, 11:20 PM)
Sound very messy building a basement  rclxub.gif ,, better built the extra room and put the garden on top of it. whistling.gif
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Yes, doing a basement (especially for pre-existing house) isn't easy, but it can be done.

Easier is to do extra room, but you sacrifice the openness of your garden. Putting the garden on top of the extra room won't look as good, plus also has its own issues particularly factoring in the thickness of the soil in order for you to plant things to make it a rooftop garden.

Anyway, each approach has its own pros and cons. Up to you to decide which suits you best.
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post Dec 31 2011, 12:36 PM

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The Odyssey HT-3 Plus is a very nice 3-channel amp. Let us know how you like it.
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post Jan 2 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(C'va @ Dec 31 2011, 10:27 PM)
I will travel to US in February 2012 and plan to carry Emotiva power amp.
You're aware how heavy is the power amp? Hand carry will be impossible so you have to check it in. I think the amp itself will definitely exceed your baggage allowance of 20kg. Hope you are travelling with others so can tap into their weight allowance too. Otherwise you're going to pay extra for overweight baggage.
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post Jan 2 2012, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 2 2012, 05:56 PM)
Tested the HT-3 and it improves the soundstage even better. Vocal opens up even more now. The midrange for the front has a lot more oomph. The rain and fire have more body to it in Knowing's plane crash scene. As for Pearl Harbor, the roaring engine of Zeroes are even more realistic and more grunt to it.
You mean compared to the Krell?

I think you should consider carrying the Odyssey, to fill in the upper niche in your line-up. So for customers who want something better than Exposure you can give them an option.
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post Jan 3 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(capoi @ Jan 3 2012, 12:21 AM)
Hi to All HT Sifu..

Just 1 noob question here..normally what is the correct position for subwoofer. What I mean is, the front of subwoofer need to facing the audience or wall?
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Generally the subwoofer faces the audience. However, you need to experiment with what suits your room best.
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post Jan 3 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(klimal @ Jan 3 2012, 01:33 PM)
jchong,
Did you get your center yet?
Sure would like to have a listen to your dual Ultra set up. notworthy.gif
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Yup, I got my center last month (finally!).

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