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Business ACCA V5!, Long live bean counters! :D

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post Jun 23 2009, 07:39 PM

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Added on June 23, 2009, 7:41 pmTopace:

Did you take P1&F8 under Philp Woo? what's your comment ?

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post Jun 23 2009, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Jun 23 2009, 05:27 PM)
Is Petronas considered as statutory body?

There is no DTA, but in the country he is being sent to (Timur Leste), they do not charge tax. So that is why I'm asking whether there is a way to not pay tax, legally during his term of employment there? I am thinking of asking the subsidiary of the country to pay his salary, but it seems that he is still liable to pay tax. Any other way ?
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If no DTA agreement then he have to pay both MYS & foreign tax, since this case foreign tax is nil then only liable to MYS tax.
Normally in tax haven country like British Virgin Island you will hear such things.
But in MYS its hard to avoid tax especially if you are in GLC.

You are asking this for educational or practical purpose ? hmm.gif
Bcos in P6 we normally learn how to handle people that avoid tax with anti-avoidance provision not the other way around (although in real life its exactly the opposite). Sadly my experience is not enough to give opinion on how to manage such things tongue.gif


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post Jun 23 2009, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 23 2009, 07:52 PM)
If no DTA agreement then he have to pay both MYS & foreign tax, since this case foreign tax is nil then only liable to MYS tax.
Normally in tax haven country like British Virgin Island you will hear such things.
But in MYS its hard to avoid tax especially if you are in GLC.

You are asking this for educational or practical purpose ?  hmm.gif
Bcos in P6 we normally learn how to handle people that avoid tax with anti-avoidance provision not the other way around (although in real life its exactly the opposite). Sadly my experience is not enough to give opinion on how to manage such things  tongue.gif
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So Petronas is considered as a statutory body ? I've always thought that even though it is GLC, there are not necessarily be statutory bodies. To me such bodies are those like the Lembaga Pelabuhan Kemaman, or Lembaga Kemajuan Tengah, etc, etc.

Let's say it's for both, practical and for knowledge purposes smile.gif

So from what I've learn, it's taxable, as it is deemed derived from Malaysia, even though the employment is done overseas, is that correct ?


Well, anyone beg to differ ? And any suggestion on how not pay tax, legally for this matter ?
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post Jun 23 2009, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(MegRyan @ Jun 21 2009, 10:38 PM)
Ray,

Are you sure or not? I heard Mr. Goh is the best mentor, for he guides you almost every sentence to make sure its up to UK standards. But I didn't hear much about Mr. Marcus. You claimed he is very famous? haha shakehead.gif  I no hear much about him lah on this obu thingee. But if Mr Goh charges 5+k and he is good then worth it. But the 3k+ by Inti, bit suspicious lah.  rclxub.gif why so good wan the prize??  Maybe student shd choose Geetha, she looks nice enuf to help lah.sori, i bit kiasu, scared waste money and cannot complete obu if enroll in future.

Wonder Mr Michael Manwaring can teach P3 Inti, sure get do BUsiness topics in OBU wan. Wonder if he does OBU also.  If expensive, maybe ok can accept since he so 'geng'.
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Haha of course he is not as famous now, Marcus left last sem already. Lol, just so u know, Marcus and Goh are both as good, with their own style(according to friends under Goh, and with my exp under Marcus). Well, since I havent been under Mr.Goh before, I wouldnt know, so I cant give a fair comparison. However, if we were to look at statistics, both usually gets fully booked before the others tongue.gif.

And once again, looking at the pricing blinds a normal consumer. I expect an ACCA student to understand the "value", not the fact that a service is priced premium. Sunway is charging too high because they are using their "brand" name, just the same as how branded good use their name to charge a premium. If u can get the EXACT same end product, with a QUALITY input, and in an Economical and effective way, why not? After all, he has tonnes of exp in Sunway already to be able to coach others regardless of location.

And btw, ur OBU cert will not state the college u come from, so no prob, in case u choose to believe the conspiracy of Big4 only recruiting Sunway student. (Btw, I have a friend taking ACCA from various college, got an interview with one of the big 4, whereas those who sent directly through Sunway are yet to be called.)


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post Jun 23 2009, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(shiningstar101 @ Jun 23 2009, 01:16 PM)
In this case, since you don't want to choose Andrew Pang in the first place, i would say the only option left would be Oviyan.

The reasons being would be :

- Daniel Ho is not going to teach in FTMS
- Stephy Lim from KB would not be recommended as this is her first time teaching F9 if i am not mistaken. FYI, she used to teach CAT papers in KB. U may choose her if cost is your constraint.

However, you may try other lecturers from other colleges.

For me, i attended F9 classes under Andrew Pang. Personally, i do think he's one of the best finance lecturers for F9. For the theory part, no doubt he didn't touch in deep, but he did explain the theory once in the class. i remember i got 70+ for my F9. For me, although he didn't teach everything in depth, but he did cover the syllabus in a wider scope.
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But basis knowledge for F9 must be very strong if want to follow Andrew. As I 'm part time student and dragging too long on other paper so basis knowledge for it I forget already.

Oviyan have any teaching finance background or not and would she jumping basis part for F9 paper?


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post Jun 23 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(ccjj1234 @ Jun 23 2009, 07:39 PM)
Daniel Hoo looks like HK..... drool.gif


Added on June 23, 2009, 7:41 pmTopace:

Did you take P1&F8 under Philp Woo? what's your comment ?
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I did not take under Phillip Woo b4.
But I have shared some experience with those who does & I can say he is a very experienced lecturer with plenty of practical experience to share.
His class is a combined class with double periods in weekends. For those whom are familiar with KL centres culture that will be the worst case scenario that can befallen upon anyone (especially KSA). Then there is the fact that he really likes to spot for exam during revision class.
Apart from these 2 frequent complains I always heard about, one should not missed his class at all.
However his notes are very very thick & students need to be hardworking to read & make their own notes or they will find his class too cumbersome to handle. Since there are plenty of alternative lecturer for this 2 paper I choose not to take it at KSA. (everyone knows how i felt about the environment there, no offence to anyone though). tongue.gif


Added on June 23, 2009, 10:51 pm
QUOTE(nujikabane @ Jun 23 2009, 08:19 PM)
So Petronas is considered as a statutory body ? I've always thought that even though it is GLC, there are not necessarily be statutory bodies. To me such bodies are those like the Lembaga Pelabuhan Kemaman, or Lembaga Kemajuan Tengah, etc, etc.

Let's say it's for both, practical and for knowledge purposes smile.gif

So from what I've learn, it's taxable, as it is deemed derived from Malaysia, even though the employment is done overseas, is that correct ?
Well, anyone beg to differ ? And any suggestion on how not pay tax, legally for this matter ?
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I think there is a way I could think of (but not so sure).
First the problem arise bcos the work is incidental to work in MYS hence taxable as employment income (deemed derived from MYS).
So an alternative is to work for the subsidiary instead (a straight transfer) by signing another contract of employment.
The problem is whether how long he is actually working there (if its periodic then it will not be advisable)

I would normally recommend dividend or share based payment but I dont think normal employee would receive such benefits that easily since such arrangements only works if you have plenty of money or working as a senior executive.

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 23 2009, 10:44 PM)
I did not take under Phillip Woo b4.
But I have shared some experience with those who does & I can say he is a very experienced lecturer with plenty of practical experience to share.
His class is a combined class with double periods in weekends. For those whom are familiar with KL centres culture that will be the worst case scenario that can befallen upon anyone (especially KSA). Then there is the fact that he really likes to spot for exam during revision class.
Apart from these 2 frequent complains I always heard about, one should not missed his class at all.
However his notes are very very thick & students need to be hardworking to read & make their own notes or they will find his class too cumbersome to handle. Since there are plenty of alternative lecturer for this 2 paper I choose not to take it at KSA. (everyone knows how i felt about the environment there, no offence to anyone though). tongue.gif


Added on June 23, 2009, 10:51 pm

I think there is a way I could think of (but not so sure).
First the problem arise bcos the work is incidental to work in MYS hence taxable as employment income (deemed derived from MYS).
So an alternative is to work for the subsidiary instead (a straight transfer) by signing another contract of employment.
The problem is whether how long he is actually working there (if its periodic then it will not be advisable)

I would normally recommend dividend or share based payment but I dont think normal employee would receive such benefits that easily since such arrangements only works if you have plenty of money or working as a senior executive.
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One thing about philip woo , that is you will not sleep in his class . its so lively. trust me .

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post Jun 23 2009, 11:46 PM

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I would like to ask for p5 is there any other choices other than KB and Kasturi?because the time table given is quite weird which is at night.Any other places which i can study full time?
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QUOTE(shiningstar101 @ Jun 23 2009, 01:16 PM)
In this case, since you don't want to choose Andrew Pang in the first place, i would say the only option left would be Oviyan.

The reasons being would be :

- Daniel Ho is not going to teach in FTMS
- Stephy Lim from KB would not be recommended as this is her first time teaching F9 if i am not mistaken. FYI, she used to teach CAT papers in KB. U may choose her if cost is your constraint.

However, you may try other lecturers from other colleges.

For me, i attended F9 classes under Andrew Pang. Personally, i do think he's one of the best finance lecturers for F9. For the theory part, no doubt he didn't touch in deep, but he did explain the theory once in the class. i remember i got 70+ for my F9. For me, although he didn't teach everything in depth, but he did cover the syllabus in a wider scope.
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well i am going to try out oviyan for P4 as i have paid my fees to ftMS . (I have tried out andrew) . But as said Oviyan teaches in PACC for F9 (I am not sure about this )
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post Jun 24 2009, 12:06 AM

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when r the bpp study text for dec 2009 & june 2010 exam gonna be available? lol.....i self-study le......mc orange institute said mid of august...zzz...where got enuf time for study oh?
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post Jun 24 2009, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(eujin @ Jun 23 2009, 11:46 PM)
I would like to ask for p5 is there any other choices other than KB and Kasturi?because the time table given is quite weird which is at night.Any other places which i can study full time?
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All optional class would normally be at night since 90% of the students are part time students & its pointless to run fulltime class which only aters to less than 5 students. With exception of sunway I dont think you will many places conducting optional class at morning or afternoon.
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post Jun 24 2009, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 24 2009, 12:26 AM)
All optional class would normally be at night since 90% of the students are part time students & its pointless to run fulltime class which only aters to less than 5 students. With exception of sunway I dont think you will many places conducting optional class at morning or afternoon.
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perhaps you could look for colleges conducting during weekend .sat afternoons and or sunday mornings.


Added on June 24, 2009, 12:42 am
QUOTE(jonwei @ Jun 24 2009, 12:06 AM)
when r the bpp study text for dec 2009 & june 2010 exam gonna be available? lol.....i self-study le......mc orange institute said mid of august...zzz...where got enuf time for study oh?
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what papers you plan to self study ?

frankly i feel Bpp just puts in all the contents and makes it look like a bible . if you start in end aug i just wan to say one word ...."good luck to you" .

since there is not much changes in most papers why not get a borrowed old edition first . frankly these old version and new version will be the same as far as Bpp is concern .( i was they used the same examples since they published their first edition.) rclxub.gif


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Talking about text books, do you guys fully rely on them or more towards lecturer notes ?

besides that, which text book provider do you think is better compare to another (BPP, kaplan, GTG ...etc) ?
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Just get email reply from Philip Woo, he said will run P1 & P3 in Taylor. So it is good news for PJ student la!
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 23 2009, 02:37 PM)
Different mentor will provide different guidance on the topics you choose to pursue.
Mentor like Andrew Pang will foucs on topics on performance measure while others like Parmindar will focus on topics like business.
Andrew should cost around Rm 1xxx while Parmindar around RM 2xxx.

I dont think pass rates is important for OBU since its the grades which matter more like A, B or C. Anyway will the grades affect your OBU class at the first place ?
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both the average marks and the grade of the assignment will affect the class of the OBU you are getting, unless your average marks is above 68. If it's above 68, any grade you get for your assignment, your OBU will still be first class
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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jun 24 2009, 08:37 AM)
Just get email reply from Philip Woo, he said will run P1 & P3 in Taylor. So it is good news for PJ student la!
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The Mc Orange of KL reception told me "they will offer the ACCA course in Taylor college of Subang" On July when i followed the my friend to pursue P5 lecturerChow Kim Tai Last Sunday.
P1 and p3 is Philp woo
P2 is Hannef
P4 is Oliveyan
P5 is Chow Kim Tai
however when I send e-mail to enquire about related information, including : tuition fee and timetable on July, up to now no any responce !!! cry.gif hmm.gif


About Philp Woo, Exactly really like spotting Q exam in the IRC, but tiz sitting for p1 , p3, and F8 are not reliable... yawn.gif sweat.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ccjj1234 @ Jun 24 2009, 11:14 AM)
The Mc Orange of KL reception told me "they will offer the ACCA course in Taylor college of  Subang" On July  when i followed the my friend to pursue P5 lecturerChow Kim Tai  Last Sunday.
P1 and p3 is Philp woo
P2 is Hannef
P4 is Oliveyan
P5 is Chow Kim Tai   
however when I send e-mail to enquire about related information, including : tuition fee and timetable on July, up to now no any responce !!! cry.gif  hmm.gif
About Philp Woo, Exactly really like spotting Q  exam in the IRC, but tiz sitting for p1 , p3, and F8 are not reliable... yawn.gif  sweat.gif  whistling.gif
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damn! Philip Woo is teaching P3 in MYS!
who is going for the class?
i want to learn so many from him
''how to kill people''

carlosandy : can i have Philip's email address?

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QUOTE(BABIyat @ Jun 24 2009, 11:09 AM)
damn! Philip Woo is teaching P3 in MYS!
who is going for the class?
i want to learn so many from him
''how to kill people''

carlosandy : can i have Philip's email address?
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pwoo@saa.org.sg

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Any recommended lecturer for p6?
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QUOTE(eujin @ Jun 24 2009, 11:51 AM)
Any recommended lecturer for p6?
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Choong Kwai Fatt is 1st recommended lecturer for P6. But not sure he will back to run any P6 class, so you can consider Low Chin Ann (Kolej Bandar).

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