same case with u la (xavierx)
where u wan to study acca? sunway?

hi i want to ask is there any F9 part time classes that anyone can recommend. I am working full time so my choices for classes is limited.... Pls Help....

i've just discussed this with my mom. she told me to try the ICAEW course. i told her that it is going to be super hard to juggle between work n study.

guess what she said. be a man, man up to the challenge. ==" zzz

will there be any difference in terms of sallary if i choose one qualification over the other? if the difference are minuate, i'd rather study ACCA coz i dun have to work first.

and i like your idea of experimenting with courses. that's the reason why i did not go n study straight after A levels coz i dun wanna study just for the sake of studying. eventhough i wasted 8 months not doing anything.

i wanna try out diff things first. haha coz seriously, even now,i still duno what i really want and the only way to find out is to do it lo.

i was attracted to ACCA because it offers me a whole new set of knowledge coz i was from a science stream education.


i dun mind working, i'm just scared that i cannot cope with the stress n studies during ICAEW that i'll quit half way.




but is the hardwork of aiming for super high marks worth it in terms of pay scale? will the employer pay more if your marks are higher?

i read in previous posts that qualification is not the only factor that determines your ability to climb the corporate ladder. then what do they look for? how can someone make himself get promoted faster compared to the others?more qualification or the ability to kiss your boss ass JK JK. but i really wanna know from people who are working now.

thanks all for replying.


@to sukun, i only send my application to sunway for ACCA. but not sure can get a place or not coz it is very late dy. maybe they wont even process my application.
what you mean same case? from sabah or sunway also offer you ICAEW?

one more thing. i read that tony fernander became financial controler for virgin media after he graduated from uni with accoungitng n finance. can an ACCA graduate do it? what does one do in financial controling department?control the whole monetary transactions of the company?

This post has been edited by 88XAVIERX88: Dec 23 2009, 10:22 AM

what i mean, same case with u is that im 21 wasted like 1-2 years "do nothing". well, cant say i do nothing since i studied form 6 for 2-3 months then move to study diploma then quit it after 1 year of studying it then end up in alvl and finish it. right now i'm heading to uk to study acca. just hope visa application goes smoothly.

don worry xavierx. those sunway college are no different, just another "corporation" aim to make money only. they still will process ur application. got money jiu can de...

btw. how u know i'm from sabah?

i attend andrew F5 class b4...fast & furious..
i hear ppl leave good comment to Oviyan..
PAAC is it juz beside LRT masjik Jamek?
cos Im part time student, take train more convinient than drivin to kl

hey my case is exactly the same as u. i hop around from one course to another coz duno what to study. before my A level, i did have a short stint with engineering. i did pharmacy but after 1 sem studying it, felt that it was against my principal to go on studying. coz what u study in pharmacy course is not to cure patients but to help make pharmaceutical company become richer. once ur studying there and talk to the lecturers, u'll feel disgusted. and it is just unethical. it's like i'll be an agent for the rich to rob from the poor or sick. haha


sabah was just a guess. so what subjects u took for A level? where r u going to study ACCA in UK? y not study at singapore?

i wanted to go there but kinda exspensive and i missed the application deadline for singapore.

so ur 1988 too?cool!

This post has been edited by 88XAVIERX88: Dec 23 2009, 06:03 PM

Well, if you can score high, it will help to secure you a job, and also if you can score high, basically it means you understand what you learn, and could help you to perform better in your job, which indirectly leads you to a better job prospects, perhaps?

When you start working, your results won't matter much already, really it's how good you can finish jobs assigned to you. (or how good you can lick your line manager's shoes)

hi everyone....i am having a problem paying the annual subscription fee...this morning i tried to pay using both visa n master and both the transaction was clearly stated unsuccessful....but when this evening i want to try again i found out the transaction was successful so i called up the bank and ask...then bank said 3 transaction was successful with the same amount which is the annual subscription fee and 1 unsuccessful...
so i ask can i cancel..then bank said i muz ask the acca to cancel for me....is there anything i can do???i emailed them but there's no reply yet.....

Yeah...but just in case we defer and the lecturer changes due to various reasons, seems like there's no way of getting our money back.

Oh gosh! No wonder
Pretty careless of me to not notice that. Thanks for pointing out.
I can't seem to find the FTMS M'sia timetable. Anyone has a link to that?

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Added on December 23, 2009, 6:38 pmI suggest you could talk to Pat or Wei Yuen from ICAEW. They could give you a better idea of what to expect, and answer many of your queries.
ICAEW Contact
But beware, as they're promoting ICAEW...I had this experience seeing them describe ACCA as something "common, many people have" and describing it as an "easy" exam. Not really fair to say that. ACCA is no easy exam for sure, I think they went a little bit too far in trying to promote.
Just be careful to filter whatever you hear from different people, as each person has their own agenda.

However it is true that ICAEW is a really prestigious qualification. I had a chat with one of my lecturers regarding it (he is an ICAEW member). The reason that ICAEW was seen as so tough is that back in those days, you couldn't take the exams in Malaysia, i.e. you had to do it in England. Furthermore, they had to take like, 6 papers in a row per sitting (you can't take like, only 3 papers at a go like you can now). Btw, I remember someone mentioning that there is no variant for ICAEW, meaning you have to do UK Tax & Law (whereas for ACCA you have a choice).

If you want to go for ICAEW, you have to secure employment not just with any company, but one of the authorized companies. This is the list: ICAEW Authorized Training Organizations

You get about 1-2 months paid study leave for ICAEW (depending on which company you work for).

This post has been edited by Pooh-Bear: Dec 23 2009, 06:40 PM

hey guys, is it advisable to take p papers in non-chronogical order? Like i take p 1 2 5. And if say i did not pass my f7 *touchwood*, can i take f7 p1 5 together?

Don't worry, you will have a credit balance in ACCA account, it will be used to offset your future payments - unless you care about the time value of money

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Added on December 23, 2009, 8:19 pmGuys, I'm taking P1 P2 P3, can anyone give me some insights into these papers? What it requires and what is expected of the candidates?

This post has been edited by karhoe: Dec 23 2009, 09:32 PM

thanks for the info. it's really helpful.

yea, i try to gather as many information as possible from people. so far it does not seem like a good choice coz alot claim that it is going to be very tough and risky. coz if i fail, i cannot quit coz bonded. so now still asking around for more opinion.

hopefully someone studying ICAEW right after A level can help out.haha


ICAEW used to be prestigious but some claimed that ACCA is just as tough and prestigious. coz now, ICAEW seems to be following what ACCA is doing to promote their qualification by relaxing their entry requirement.


so still not sure.

the main problem is,will i be able to secure a job with my A level results? coz even if i want to study ICAEW, it is still not confirmed that i can get it coz i have to secure a job first.

will the interviews be hard? what should i expect from the interview?

below are the list of ICAEW aproved employer that sunway gave me, which should i try to go for if i were to study for ICAEW?

Abu Bakar Rajudin & Co
Maybank Investment Bank Berhad
BDO Binder

Boustead Holdings Berhad
Beh L H & Co
Peter Chong & Co
CIMB Group Sdn Bhd
Crest Builder Holdings Berhad
Deloitte
ECM Libra Avenue
Ernst & Young
Folks DFK & Co
HL Hong & Co
GHL Systems Bhd
Genting Malaysia Berhad
Hong Leong Group
KPMG
Peter I M Chieng & Co
Lee Teck Leong & Co
MustaphaRaj
MAA Assurance
PETRONAS
PricewaterhouseCoopers
Shamsir Jasani Grant Thornton
Tenaga Nasional Berhad
Suruhanjaya Sekuriti
UHY Diong
Sunway Group


like i said previously, i'm keeping my options open.

coz acca is just as good or some claimed to be better than ICAEW.

i still wanna weigh the pros n cons of both of them before choosing.

hope some of you here can help me with this.

i need more opinions.

thanks

This post has been edited by 88XAVIERX88: Dec 23 2009, 08:26 PM

Well, people say that ICAEW matters alot if you are in UK, but in Malaysia, ACCA is not far away from ICAEW. Like what some have said, you can always use your ACCA qualification to gain some exemptions on ICAEW

U can take F7 and P1 together, but not P5.
Because you cannot take the optional papers without taking P1, P2, P3 or have passed them earlier.
Since F7 and P2 falls on the same day, it is thus not possible.

Guys, what if we lost the official results slip notification? Can I request ACCA to send another one? How much do they charge?

Thanks

Well, currently there are plenty of universities grad. However, the Big 4 recognises that ACCA is much prestigious than a Degree. So, ACCA ranks above Degree grads.

Currently, recognising that Malaysia is lacking of ACCA grads, Big 4 are employing from both sources. When ACCA grads outnumbered their demand, then only they will assess based on your marks. However, this outcome is quite unforseeable in the short run.

NB: Having to pass your ACCA will most likely earn you a chance for interview. However, if you flunked miserably in your interview, then it's your funeral.

You're welcome. The interviews will be tough because they want to see if you can handle pressure and stress. Like, for example, if you were to apply to PwC, you would have to be interviewed by the HR manager. If you can't get through her, then that's it. Since Sunway informed you that there they have students from A-levels doing ICAEW, I guess it's not impossible to secure a job with one of the firms. Maybe you can check with them which are the possible firms.

Your question about which firm to choose...the thing is, the firms in the list are of different types. Some are accounting firms(e.g. Big 4, MustaphaRaj, Grant Thornton), some are commercial firms (e.g. banks, Genting, Sunway). Do you really know what kind of firm you want to work for? Do you really know the job nature? In an accounting firm, you could be in areas like audit, tax, consultancy or others; whereas in commercial firms, you might be involved with stuff like financial analysis, accounts preparation. The job nature is rather different. I had no idea at all what all these were really about before entering my degree (was a science stream student too). You really want to make sure you have an idea about these first, because, like you say, once you sign a training contract with them, you'll be stuck with them for a few years. Otherwise, maybe going for an option that allows you to do full time studies first would be a wiser option.

Btw, someone who is currently doing ICAEW once told me that you can actually do ICAEW full time (self-sponsored) and seek for employment later. In fact, firms are happy because they save cost (of sponsoring you, and the paid study leaves). But then, if you are unable to secure a training contract with one of the authorized firms later, you will never be qualified, all your previous effort will be gone, so it's risky in a way. Also, it is compulsory that the training contract be at least 3 or 4 years (not sure the exact #), so you will still have to be bonded for that amount of years.

There was once somebody asked Mr Philip Woo (one of the ACCA lecturers) regarding ICAEW, and he told us if you have completed your ACCA, don't go for ICAEW, but go for other options that may add more value (e.g. MBA). Because ICAEW is just another professional qualification - just like ACCA specializes in financial accounting while CIMA specializes in management accounting (you usually go for either one only, not both); ICAEW specializes in group accounts (if I'm not mistaken). Perhaps this could help to guide you, which type of accounting you wish to specialize in.

I personally feel that ACCA is currently specializing more on corporate governance and ethics

Hi..any one of your are MSER?
i have some problem need to asking your...
after i succeed completion for my f2 and f3...
can i attempt 4 paper including f1 on next sitting exam?
Must pass f1 1st bfore attempt further paper?
any one of your can help me to solve this problem?thnks

but degree got campus life "feel" . i started frm CAT & missing the normal uni/college life makes me feel jialat all the time lol~

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Dec 24 2009, 05:54 AM