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post Apr 7 2009, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(moon yuen @ Apr 7 2009, 10:51 AM)
Hi, what is EC product ? (BPP text book on social & environmental audit)

EC stand for European Commission ? Or what  ?
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You mean products with a logo of EC? That want, if I'm not mistaken, should be a certification, that the product is safe, something like SIRIM
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post Apr 10 2009, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(elite_smart @ Apr 9 2009, 11:04 PM)
Well, eventually, if you take Sunway, the chances to pass is lower unless you are very good lor. Many people said that.
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Nonsense la, even if you go to KL colleges/segi/ wherever and you don't study, you will still fail.


Added on April 10, 2009, 9:16 pm
QUOTE(winongcf @ Apr 9 2009, 08:00 PM)
ya agree,my lecturer also tell me that..but how true it is,no one knows...
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This one is psychology, if the marker keeps on marking good paper, eventually his standard would be higher and his marking would be stricter, compared to going to some other exam centers where the scripts are all of low quality, and the markets kept seeing bad answers, and eventually his standard of marking will be lowered, and hence if you can give good answers, the examiners will definitely be impressed.

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post May 24 2009, 11:06 PM

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Guys, got some problem here

My friend signed up for June sitting

Just now he checked his ACCA exam entry, he was shocked to see that "you have missed the entry deadline for june 2009 sitting...."

Then he went to account statement, and it showed a (180 pounds) balance, what does it mean? ACCA received the money but forgot to enroll him or he owed ACCA 180 pounds?

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post May 24 2009, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ May 24 2009, 11:14 PM)
How's your friend sign up for exam? By credit card or buy DD and post it?

If your friend buy DD, then can check with bank to see any clearance of the cheque.

Ask your friend go to ACCA Malaysia, see can help or not.
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He paid via Sunway admin, bankdraft 180 pounds

His account statement, showed credit note = 180 pounds

So now it seems like acca received the money but never enrolled him


Added on May 24, 2009, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 23 2009, 06:34 PM)
26% or 25% ? Read in Alan Yeo's book, it says 25% for YA2009 ?
So for this sitting, should we take 25% or 26% tax rate ?
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Well, based on budget 2009, that's the rate for YA 2009. Maybe his book is meant for ACCA students + general public.

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post May 25 2009, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ May 25 2009, 12:03 AM)
I think my be Sunway admin office make some mistake. No choice, he need to check with bank for the clearance of cheque and possible ask bank cancel the cheque. At the same time, also ask him check with ACCA Malaysia, see what they can do. But I think possible he will miss out June sitting.
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ACCA already received the money and credited into his account via a credit note, so I think its ACCA staff who forgot to enroll him. Well, hopefully ACCA can do something about it, after all, if they bend around the rules for their own mistake, it can be done. Just need another table, another booklet and another question.


Added on May 25, 2009, 12:44 am
QUOTE(winongcf @ May 25 2009, 12:36 AM)
if acca receive it  i dont think sunway office make mistake,most of my friends and i  send our bankdraft send via office and we have no problem at all...if sunway made a mistake i dont think acca will receive the bankdraft,and also they send the bankdraft in one batch,so if our bank draft reach on time,ur fren's ones should reach on time too...

but i think u should ask ur fren to look for ms margaret(as u know she is the one who handle all this) to ask about it..then maybe she can call acca malaysia or uk to check for ur fren

and also try to call up acca malaysia now to ask wat happen..good luck
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Ms Margaret is not handling ACCA exam already, there's a new staff assigned to it.

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 25 2009, 01:39 AM)
Where is Ms Margeret, she left Sunway already? Kew her because she always comes to classes and ask those who haven't pay to leave the class, lol
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She's given another task to handle
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post May 25 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 25 2009, 10:20 PM)
In the case of basis period, would there be any overlapping period where a company is required by law to close its accounts to a specific date of a year?

And in the case of employment income, benefit-in-kinds does not include money/ items convertible to money right? It would be assessed under s13.(1)(a) instead, right ?
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Erm, if the company suddenly becomes a member of a group, then the year end will change and the basis period will coincide with the financial year. Don't think there would be overlapping period.

As for the second one, ya, BIK are item not convertible into cash, either due to the nature of the item itself or perhaps due to the employment contract.

Correct me if I'm wrong biggrin.gif
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post May 27 2009, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 27 2009, 01:53 PM)
In taxation, if the husband and wife ceases to be married in the year of assessment, can still claim spouse relief or not ? And if can, need to apportioned or just take the whole sum of RM3,000 ?
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Only if children suddenly gets married, cannot claim relief
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post May 30 2009, 09:35 AM

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Guys, got some tax questions here

1) Initial Allowance can be claimed if for asset purchased and disposed during the year, but there will also be drawback on allowance previous claimed unless commercial justification can be provided. So I include BA and BC in the same year?

2) When a company sells the goods to its branch in Thailand at RM650000 when the market price is RM700000, should the company include RM650000 or RM700000 in the gross income? (subsequently the company will sell the goods to Thai consumers at RM700000) Does transfer pricing applies here?

3) I don't really understand about interest restriction. S33(2) will not apply where the interest does not exceed RM6k for individuals and RM10k for companies. So what happens when interest restriction does not apply? The non-business portion be deductible as business expenses?

4) Can a normal trading business deduct legal expenses incur in renewing financial loan? I know that legal expenses incurred in obtaining first loan is not deductible as it secures an enduring advantage but what about subsequent renewal of the loans?

5) What if entertainment is provided mainly to employees, but it is also provided to suppliers at the same time, but main purpose of the entertainment (example, annual dinner) is for employees.

6) If the spouse has income, let's say from rental, but after deducting rental expenses, she ends up with Nil Total income, can she elect for Joint assessment with her husband?

Thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ May 31 2009, 06:21 PM)
No la, only can skip P1 provided that you get A1 for your SPM, even that you have to pay for the paper you gain exemption, LOL.

As for the exemption for degree, you have to check here : http://www.accaglobal.com
In the link, look for exemption section, and select based on the course you attended, year of completion and from which university.
You will know which paper you get exemption .
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Its T1 in CAT, P1 sounds like P1 in Part 3 of ACCA lol

Exemption is only for T1, because no way SPM has taught you ANYTHING on Management accounting (T2), not to mention those IT chapters which I like the most.

Exemption from exam only, but you still have to attend classes, else you will screw up your T3, T6, and subsequently the rest of your financial accounting papers.

If you have a degree that is recognized by ACCA, you get exemption from Part 1 and Part 2 of ACCA, just have to do the P level papers

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post Jun 3 2009, 12:58 AM

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Wow, F4, all my lecturers target were right on.

Basically, almost all the questions were asked during PTs and Mock exam, but stupid me for not revising the PT and Mock paper, some careless mistake in the employment termination section and receivership section.
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post Jun 3 2009, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(augustsnow @ Jun 3 2009, 02:56 PM)
lols..are u from sunway? =P
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Yea, are you?

Btw ya, cannot use blue pen.


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Btw, the on screen marking - "on the last day of the session", means only applicable to papers on next Friday?

Any website where I can read on the on screen marking?

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QUOTE(~Mew~ @ Jun 4 2009, 12:09 AM)
Np..

Best use black ball pen.

Anyone attempting F9 ? How likely Ungearing and regearing calculation part will be tested ? Since dec 08 asked on theory part. My lecturer did not cover the whole F9 well. Self studying on certain topics.  mad.gif
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Even if you use blue pen, I think it will still appear black to the examiner.
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QUOTE(Raymond_ACCA @ Jun 4 2009, 01:19 AM)
Erm, cannot use blue pen? why? I used blue pen for my exam - -.

Edit: Oh, only applies to last day? phew**
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Because most scanning software used to scan OCR forms, only can detect black and white, so my bet is the examiner will see your writing in black as well, that's why highlighter all will not be visible.

You can use blue, but use a very dark one, that also at your own risk. But in the end, the marker will see your writing in black.

Please pray that all the PC's in UK comes with LCD and no CRT exists. I can't imagine an old marker staring at the CRT at 60Hz refresh rate for hours. doh.gif


Added on June 4, 2009, 1:47 am
QUOTE(bonkist @ Jun 4 2009, 01:00 AM)
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3. Please use black pen at all times; to complete your details on the booklet and when answering the exam questions. 
Pencil, fountain pens, gel pens and other colours of pen (including highlighter pens) will not be picked up by the scanning technology and could result in questions not being marked correctly.

i like to use black "Pilot" pen in the exam, consider black pen ???
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Pilot pens are gel ink pens sweat.gif But I think Pilot gel pens are those high quality ones, should be alright I guess. The main issue with gel pens is when it contacts with water, smudges easily. But now there are already pigment gel ink pens. Waterproof gel ink pens.

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Jun 7 2009, 10:01 PM)
Every paper needs different approach :
Hardwork is a must if you want to perform well in ACCA but yes it doesnt guarantee success either.
For lower level like CAT you can score if you constantly practice questions which is still available with ease. Thats why you see many CAT students get overconfident in ACCA later on. All my CAT papers are easily over 80.

For fundamental level of ACCA or part 2 (6 papers), it will be now 50% practice & 50% practical. Examiners are still bind by the rules & guidelines for not setting the paper at maximum difficulty since there are professional papers for that. Plus with degree offering similar exemption its not that vital for ACCA to apply their filter system yet. There are some papers that requires practical knowledge like PM & Audit.

After that is the professional level,whcih consist of 3 core & 2 optional.
For core since its compulsory examiner will only test severely on P2. The 2 supplement papers are more non-accounting like business & ethics.
The 2 optional requires student to specialise on field like costing, audit, tax or finance.
Part 3 / professional level is the TRUE ACCA which examiner has the "full license" to test whatever they felt is necessary.

If you mean hardwork is something like "brute force" technique which is used widely by students in exams like SPM, such technic is can be used in CAT, partly in part 2 & almost useless in part 3.

FYI :
If you read STAR paper today, degree can be obtained partly if you paid some huge sums to the college which makes them reluctant to fail you. The there is additional mark for attendance, project, .....etc. In ACCA its 100% written exam based which will be marked by professional markers in UK which exceptiojn of tax & law. Your marks will be entirely dependent on performance in exam day.
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Nice comment, but the irony is the 'advantage' that ACCA is purely exam based has somehow been lamented as a disadvantage by some quarters, because ACCA is so exam based, student just learn to 'pass' the paper, no research, no presentation, etc.
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F5 was killer

for first question, i spent 25 minutes to read it, and still can't do it, but eventually i tried some luck and common sense and got it right, but couldnt explain it well.

Made some silly mistake in the relevant cost question, as for the discount, I forgot that annual purchase, have to include daily sales, I only included Sunday sales. So discount wrong, bonus also wrong as it is a percentage of net profit.

Btw, the relevant cost question, have to explain anot, sunk cost, etc?
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Erm, TPAR, assume all but material cost to be fixed.

So ya, the conversion cost is 18 million, I dont think its 1.8 million + 2.25million , then divide by 225khours.

Product A and B should get TPAR above 1, C is less than 1, 0.7 I think


Added on June 9, 2009, 9:01 am
QUOTE(augustsnow @ Jun 9 2009, 12:12 AM)
yup i'm in group 3 =)

can't use blue pen in answer script??!! i wrote pages n pages with my blue pen only!
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That only applies to papers on 2mr onwards, 2mr they will be the test rat for the on screen marking biggrin.gif


Added on June 9, 2009, 9:03 am
QUOTE(DeathChaosX @ Jun 9 2009, 01:05 AM)
Hey, for f5 1st question, what TPAR u guys got for product a and b? i got both >1, but two of my friends got below 1.
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Actually don't have to worry, you should thank the examiner for splitting question 1 into a and b. By doing that, if you identified the wrong bottleneck in a and based on that, work out your TPAR in b, you will still get the full 6 marks. Lose only 3 marks at a biggrin.gif


Added on June 9, 2009, 9:06 am
QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jun 9 2009, 01:01 AM)
But when go to option module in professional level, P5 is a easier and higher passing rate. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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My lecturer attended the F5 seminar by Geoff Cordwell, she said, Geoff kena taruk kaw kaw by other lecturers, one of them told him "The gap from F5 to P5 is so small, if a student can pass F5, you just have to teach him a little more and he can pass P5" LOL

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Jul 6 2009, 12:58 PM)
I would like said something regarding KL college to new student, expecially for those only know Sunway.

Study in KL college, ur won't enjoy good study environment, but tuition fees cheaper and good quality lecturer in KL college.

Some student saying KSA just like tuition centre, I want college life. Ha Ha, if u have thinking like there, then you better go to Sunway/TARC.

For Platinum status, I don't think it is very important. I got a friend study P2 under Menon but fail, after this she go to Haneef in MCO, finally can pass.

For transportation, I don't think it is a big issue, cos all KSA/MCO/KBandar/FTMS also in town. Please don't tell me no bus or LRT go to town.

Lunch. Ha Ha, no much problem oso. You will find cheap and nice food in Petaling Street or near there. (Except for Sunday class in MCO, we have some difficult to find food near this college la!)

Or You want shopping or watch cinema after class, no problem cos take bus from town to KLCC, Sg Wang, Pavillion only need around 15-20 minutes.

In conclusion, food, transportation, shopping and watch cinema also not big issue if u prefer study in KL. The final point is depend on what you want from all these college (including Sunway)
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I have something to add.

Yeap, Platinum status is not very important, it's just the highest accreditation given to Sunway for having such high passing rates (passing rates for all papers exceeded the world rate.)

Of course, there are students who got barred by the college administration as they failed miserably in the internal exams and if they have sat for the real exam, they could have passed. In my opinion, even if no students are barred and some eventually fail and reduced the passing rate of the college. The effect will just be minimal the the Platinum status could have been retained though.

Yes, there is always an exceptional case. Your friend can study under Menon and fail yet pass under Haneef. But does this mean everyone that study under Haneef will pass? Have you forgotten that your friend would have gotten knowledge from Menon + Haneef class by the time he sat for his exam 2nd round?

I agree the tuition fees in Sunway is quite expensive, but at least you get a better study environment with more study hours.

Movie, lunch, shopping would be the last thing to consider when choosing for a good college sweat.gif

In the end, it's the student decision, you can rely on feedback from students here who have studied with the KL colleges lecturers, or you can rely on the track record of the college in deciding which college to go to. You also have to remember, that all these are as good as opinions only, a man's meat could be another man's poison. What is good to someone else doesn't necessary apply to you.

You guys must also realize that most of the feedback on KL colleges lecturers here are given by those who have attended their classes. Apparently it seemed like the whole ACCA thread is flooded with majority of the people from or have studied before at KL colleges.


Added on July 7, 2009, 10:30 pm
QUOTE(pcm123 @ Jul 7 2009, 10:25 PM)
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Students are there because it's Sunway, not because of the lecturer

This, I have to admit is so true. My parents and relatives went berserk when i enrolled myself into another college. To them, graduating from Sunway is the so important because it is a well known college. And they think sacrificing it to attend a smaller college in KL is not worth it at all even after I told them I'm only searching for the best lecturers around and the tuition fee is much cheaper and transportation problem can be solved as well. My dad even insist i return there. The only reason they keep repeating to me is that, Sunway is better! Sunway is better! I honestly think it's just the branding thing like how Kaerna puts it here. I have to admit the main reason why I was there in the first place is because of the platinum status.  blush.gif
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hey , you and I share the same case icon_rolleyes.gif . The selling point was also platinum status + world prize winners .
Ok , to be honest its my mom only , not both parents objected my decision.

What I'm trying to do is what Topace mentioned , need to learn how to fish XD .
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Yeap, even I myself went to Sunway because I was told about Sunway track record. But think about it, if the college have really been that bad, would I have even know about it then? Would people have recommended me to Sunway then? I have been in Sunway for 1 year + to find out for myself that what I have been told are no lies. The reason why students can excel in Sunway, one of the reasons is the peer pressure, it's very stressful to study there.

Perhaps, as claimed by some of you, that the lecturers in Sunway are less superior than those in KL, but one must not be too dependent on lecturers, you have got to do your own revisions, study from the manuals.

Bottom line is, it doesn't matter which college or lecturer, lecturers can only deliver the knowledge, you have to absorb and understand it yourself.

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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Jul 4 2009, 03:02 PM)
Hey guys, need your help badly here.

I want to know what are the precise dates for CAT exam T6/7/8/9 for the December 2009. I've checked in the acca web site but didn't find anything.

Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. biggrin.gif
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Planning your holiday already?

Bear in mind, this time the Dec sitting will start in the 2nd week as for the first week, the Monday is still on November.

T6 should be on Monday, T7 on Tuesday, T8 the following Monday, T9, the following Tuesday, should be that way

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