If you have exceptional memory or you have revised his stuff rigorously the RI class is basicly 99% the same like normal class only faster & more summarised. Its meant more for those whom never attend his class or just to revise key areas for exam.
He will be doing past year questions in RE while giving the framework on how to write & technics.

I think don't need revision at all as P3 is all about application. My sitting have something to do with a museum & a company very similar to mines wonderland. So general knowledge is equally important too.

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Added on May 11, 2009, 12:30 amI have some rather interesting opinion to share.
P1 is a new area of acca & examiner really like to test a lot of P1 stuff namely CG, Int aud & IC, Ethics & Environment.
So most lecturer & student is in the view that they guarantee to release a 50 mark question of CG since CG covers > 50% of the syllabus.
In theory it should be a fine assumption but in reality its quite funny.

For 2 consecutive sitting P1 touches mostly on ethics & environment which covers only rather 25% of syllabus. Students complained where is CG ?
The funny thing is that they test P1 stuff on P2, P3 & P4 on that sitting. I think other examiner assumes student has taken / taking P1.
P2 : ethical issue on creative accounting.
P3 : performance related pay
P4 : something on ethics

I think P1 requires student to know everything so they can apply on other papers as well. So if you take all core papers at 1 go its really beneficial.
F8 students taking P1 also can benefit in certain area.

My suggestion is ALL ARE KEY AREA unless you are taking P1 only.

This post has been edited by Topace111: May 11 2009, 12:30 AM

Thanks for replying.. since you've been his student before, I want to know :
i) to what extent will he cover the past year questions (all past year questions or spotting?)
ii) how will he approach the Qs? Will he teach a systematic way to approach a Q, like keywords indicating which models to use etc?
iii) considering only 9 hours of time doing Qs I honestly doubt it's enough but ..was it so effective for you that you think without attending it you would have had failed the paper?
iv) Will I achieve the same results if I go through the past year questions thoroughly myself? (my lecturer at Sunway doesn't really teach us how to approach the Q, all he did was a little analysis and dictation of answers)

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: May 11 2009, 03:14 AM

i) Coverage
In P3 key area to memorise is quite small & most of it was restricted to section B (some is IT area). Section A is almost wholly application of knowledge. So in his class he will try to teach all areas of section B (thats why his RI will start from section B first). For section A he will mostly lecture on models, frameworks & authors of P3. His style is to apply several models to a question & this method works for those whom are weak in elaborating in depth since those models can yield many key pointers which will elude students if they only apply their knowledge.
Past year question will only be conducted in RE class not RI.

ii) Approaching question
To me he is quite a brilliant lecturer with lots of experience but he lacks a key criteria which is systematic. The problem is that he likes to overlap between different models. For acquisition he will use johnson & scholes then he applied Dunning then with another author. I don't think many students can refer to several different pages of notes for reference but for those who can it should be no problem.
He LIKES & WILL always use acronyms for memorisation of model. He is brilliant is applying keyword but to such an extent it becomes annoying since he appied acronyms to all models so my advice is just stick with the key words.

iii) RE class
I have not attend but I still did quite well for exam. I think technic is not that important in P3 but time management. Most people cannot finish or did not write enough to elaborate. If i am not mistaken he will always ask his students to start section B & finish within 1 hour 15 minutes & spent the remaining time on analysing section A.

iv) ???
This completely depends on yourself but I do admit parmindar style is more student friendly & it facilitate easier translation of students answer to marker's comprehension. The examiner answer is quite hard to digest I think.

hehe thanks for ur time i know what to do now

hey guys, i know its late but i just want to know which is the better place to go for F5 irc : kasturi or kolej bandar, since this is the only two colleges that i looked up still available (i.e. commences on late may)

feel free to suggest any good lecturer for f5 irc. thanks

tension..exam is so near.

I've been to both Andrew Pang's(kasturi) & also Low Chin Ann's(KB) F5 classes. For me Chin Ann is better. Andrew Pang's revision gives a thicker pile of Qs set but he only does a lot of questions that involves calculations. The Qs are mainly PYQ. He barely WRITEs on the theory part. The most he'll just read the answer for the theory part & explain what it means.

Whereas for Chin Ann, he prepares his own set of Qs. Some Qs may look like PYQ but it's modified to what he expects will be coming out this sitting. Chin Ann has a balance on calculation & theory parts. He also writes out the answers properly for the theory & discussion section & not just reading it from the given answers.

Also KB has lesser students so it's more comfortable. Imagine in Kasturi you'll have to reach at least 1 hour earlier just to book a decent place to sit. Then there's the issue of break times when the toilet queue & lift queue is just crazy

Andrew Pang may cover more Qs due to his fast pace teaching but I feel Chin Ann's revision gives me more knowledge & make things clearer. When you try to cram a lot of things into your mind you'll end up gaining lesser. The only bad thing about Chin Ann's class is it's ends so close to the exam week. If you don't have any papers on the first few days then it's ok i guess.

Andrew Pang's irc classes is longer (28hours, 4days, ends on the 26th) where else Chin Ann's is only for 25hours, 3days and ends on the 29th. and it still cost the same (rm180).

i'm still on the fence which class should i take . maybe i should just go for both? haha. freaking out like shit and trying to get as much knowledge as possible.

my only other paper is F6 which will be on june 1st.

anyway, thanks for your input . it does seems Chin Ann's class is better. i've never been to KB. is it nearby to Kasturi?

Well, quantity =/= quality. But it all comes down to what type of lecturer that suits you the best. My friend likes Andrew Pang, so it really depends.

Hhmm.. I wouldn't suggest you taking both lecturers. Later you'll end up being more confused & even more freaked out as they may be focusing on different areas & also each lecturer has their own calculation technique.

KB is smack in the middle of Petaling Street. You know where's the Pak Peng building? It's just next to it. Or if you don't, you know the famous soya bean stall at the crossroad? Just walk down that side of the road. It's on the right hand side. The entrance is right after the famous assam laksa & sotong kangkung stall place. Haha. Sorry that all my landmarks are food stalls.

guys out there, anyone have tips for paper f4 Corporate and Business Law?

For F5 its average ratio of calculation & theory is around 50 : 50. If it was me I will choose a lecturer with balanced approach on both area.
Chin Ann is considered the very few lecturers that can teach the theory part to students in balance proportion with calculational tools as well.
Since many students that are struggling in F5 bcos of theory problems I will suggest Chin Ann but unless you are already well equiped with strong theoretical arsenal then you can pick up a skill or two in Andrew class. Andrew is a very experienced but less dedicated lecturer compared to Chin Ann.

If somebody pinpointed that andrew doesnt like to write in class than Chin Ann is the exact opposite. He likes to write so much he even write out everything, sometimes the answer is even longer than examiner's answer.

I second the fact that Mr Andrew Pang writes alot and it is relevant and straight to the point.I've been his f5 n f9 students..His calculation is undeniable fast and relevant!

Just stop comparing the lecturers as they all have their own unique method.AND most importantly,they got their qualification and more experienced than u do!Just have faith with them either in calculation and theory.=)

i don't know how to study F6 taxation

Any tips on Paper P1 ?

I self study this paper, & only take revision class...

My IRC class only got 6 students. (Penang)

She teaching is OK. but lack of focus.

just study like u study other paper.

Hi ppl, for those who are studying CAT , degree or any course that are related to accounting. Or in fact i assume some of you already a certified ACCA. I need your help on choosing which way to go.
Bachelor of commerce accounting or Bachelor of accounting? Coz it's a crucial decision to me to further my studies towards ACCA.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1030203&hl=

went to KB and register for the irc. to date, according to the person in-charge, there are around 80-90student who have registered

Hey guys.. anybody tried P1 in KDU under J.Seelan?

hey guys im 18 this year and i have no idea wats the duration for acca course,so someone pls provide me info as i want to make decision.I will be taking foundation course in utar this year,then degree then acca,so normally how many years do i need to complete these 3 courses?

Diploma in TARC = 2yrs
Degree in UTAR = 2yrs
ACCA will have to depends on your ability to pass external exams