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post May 4 2009, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ May 3 2009, 01:46 PM)
I dont think PTPn will offer loan for professional qualification programme on the assumption that you already have a qualifaction which is sufficient enough to find work before pursuing it. I think sunway offered scholarship but SPM results must be good lo.

Since your main worries is 2 fold : the safety net & financial limitation I think you should stick with TARC programme. If i am not mistaken there is another alternative in tar programme is that you can get advance diploma in 2.5 yr but without taking acca ?
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I have straight A's in my SPM. I am actually one of the top students in my school, that's why TARC grant me a scholarship. Anyway, the alternative programme is mainly for students who prefer more relaxed and laid back study style, while the internally assessed one is for students who are willing to work hard for it. The alternative programme takes a much longer time compared to the internally assessed one. I really want to graduate sooner so that I could go out to work and lighten my family's burden sad.gif
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post May 4 2009, 01:40 PM

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So had you granted your OBU?? Just last year, I even went for the OBU convocation (Asia region) which held in KL.
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not yet, still got F8 and F9(make me sicked). the OBU Scheme was changed in Dec 2008 which is after our December exam.
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QUOTE(`twinkles @ May 4 2009, 01:32 PM)
I have straight A's in my SPM. I am actually one of the top students in my school, that's why TARC grant me a scholarship. Anyway, the alternative programme is mainly for students who prefer more relaxed and laid back study style, while the internally assessed one is for students who are willing to work hard for it. The alternative programme takes a much longer time compared to the internally assessed one. I really want to graduate sooner so that I could go out to work and lighten my family's burden sad.gif
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If you really want to laid back and study, go for local university. Sure ACCA is not a playground average world passing rate is 50% for every paper. Other Uni program very hard to get in but very easy to get out, but ACCA is very easy to get in, but very hard to get out.
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QUOTE(jacktai @ May 4 2009, 02:10 PM)
If you really want to laid back and study, go for local university. Sure ACCA is not a playground average world passing rate is 50% for every paper. Other Uni program very hard to get in but very easy to get out, but ACCA is very easy to get in, but very hard to get out.
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ya, i am working full time and studying part time. therefore, it slows down my graduation. if family can support then better study full time and fast fast finished the course, then can concentrate to earn money icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(nothingz @ May 4 2009, 02:34 PM)
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ya, i am working full time and studying part time.  therefore, it slows down my graduation.  if family can support then better study full time and fast fast finished the course, then can concentrate to earn money  icon_idea.gif
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ic, then currently what you work?? Actually I also study part time, gonna finish my last 4 paper by this year. I skip quite some time for ACCA. Now decide to complete it and gain MIA member, Charter Accountant.
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i worked in 2 different accounting firms for almost 4 years already since CAT till now ACCA. Now my main aim is to get the OBU first then only consider the rest
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post May 4 2009, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(jacktai @ May 4 2009, 02:10 PM)
If you really want to laid back and study, go for local university. Sure ACCA is not a playground average world passing rate is 50% for every paper. Other Uni program very hard to get in but very easy to get out, but ACCA is very easy to get in, but very hard to get out.
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I think you have misunderstood my reply. I meant there is two options in TARC and one of them is the more relaxed option. I was planning to go for the other option, which is the one that need hard work smile.gif Hope all is clear
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I think you have misunderstood my reply. I meant there is two options in TARC and one of them is the more relaxed option. I was planning to go for the other option, which is the one that need hard work smile.gif Hope all is clear
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Anyway, its ACCA will be very tough, if you are a hard working, and aim very high, sure ACCA will suit you. But remember, accountancy work will not that easy. Cause all are labour intensive. And the 1st 3 years after grad will be suffering with low pay. All become better after 3-5 years, high paid and good career. I would suggest O & G, and IT will be a better career at this moment, high paid from fresh and less work load then accounts.
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QUOTE(nothingz @ May 4 2009, 03:11 PM)
i worked in 2 different accounting firms for almost 4 years already since CAT till now ACCA.  Now my main aim is to get the OBU first then only consider the rest
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Since you are working and study ACCA part time, why not put the aim to get ACCA?

And you need to spend a lot of time for OBU if you really do OBU. As a part time student, do u have the time to do?

The main purpose to study ACCA is to get the professional qualification, but not OBU. Of course, if student got free time, then can consider to get OBU at ZERO COST. And if you already work for 4 years, OBU won't help you too much lo.

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post May 4 2009, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(`twinkles @ May 4 2009, 01:32 PM)
I have straight A's in my SPM. I am actually one of the top students in my school, that's why TARC grant me a scholarship. Anyway, the alternative programme is mainly for students who prefer more relaxed and laid back study style, while the internally assessed one is for students who are willing to work hard for it. The alternative programme takes a much longer time compared to the internally assessed one. I really want to graduate sooner so that I could go out to work and lighten my family's burden sad.gif
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Well if I am a straight scorer too & I understand your predicament about this.
In secondary school, TARC & Sunway the teachers / lecturers will truly grind you to perform by giving a lot of homeworks & drills on exams. You have to study for rougly 6 hours everyday right to maintain at such consistency at this level right ?

At KL its a whole different story. First thing first some general facts :
1) No homework at all will be given.
2) Class is roughly 3 hours per week for 4 months + 1 month for revision = then exam.
3) Nobody will bothered if you skip classes.
The rule is pretty simple : 100% freedom & flexibility & if you are willing to work for it then the result is yours for the taking. But its not that easy to maintain such discipline for the entire course as some of my classmates has learned it the hard way.

Actually I don't think your confusion or indecision lies on whether to take internally at TARC or take externally at KSA but you just need confirmation that you are pursuing the best course of action currently & I think you should stick with your scholarship. A drastic decision will be best avoided unless you are 100% sure that you won't regret about it. I have a similar student asking me with the same question and in the end she just choose to continue taking internally.
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QUOTE(`twinkles @ May 4 2009, 03:36 PM)
I think you have misunderstood my reply. I meant there is two options in TARC and one of them is the more relaxed option. I was planning to go for the other option, which is the one that need hard work smile.gif Hope all is clear
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GO for Adcanced Diploma in Financial Accounting cum ACCA

U can also apply for external scholarship.
Pls use ACCA status to apply it !! GOt more money lo.... If use advance Diploma to apply , give u diploma only.


1. Hong Leong Bank Scholarship
2. Kwok foundation Scholarship
3. BritishTabacco scholarship


OK, thats it.

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post May 5 2009, 10:16 AM

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anybody heard of EU institue in pj??is it good??
looking for part time study..
I've been to their website before but the info given is quite blur
anyway, I don't have acc knowledge before this..
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post May 5 2009, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ May 4 2009, 10:53 PM)
Well if I am a straight scorer too & I understand your predicament about this.
In secondary school, TARC & Sunway the teachers / lecturers will truly grind you to perform by giving a lot of homeworks & drills on exams. You have to study for rougly 6 hours everyday right to maintain at such consistency at this level right ?

At KL its a whole different story. First thing first some general facts :
1) No homework at all will be given.
2) Class is roughly 3 hours per week for 4 months + 1 month for revision = then exam.
3) Nobody will bothered if you skip classes.
The rule is pretty simple : 100% freedom & flexibility & if you are willing to work for it then the result is yours for the taking. But its not that easy to maintain such discipline for the entire course as some of my classmates has learned it the hard way.

Actually I don't think your confusion or indecision lies on whether to take internally at TARC or take externally at KSA but you just need confirmation that you are pursuing the best course of action currently & I think you should stick with your scholarship. A drastic decision will be best avoided unless you are 100% sure that you won't regret about it. I have a similar student asking me with the same question and in the end she just choose to continue taking internally.
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Thank you for your reply, it has been the most constructive reply so far smile.gif Anyway, I really dig the KL concept of studying due to their flexibility. Basically, I do not wish to continue in TARC due to some important facts, it has the worst timetable and part time lecturers ever. KSA, on the other hand, is located really near my house and I can save all the traveling time and use the time to study instead. But I understand what you are trying to tell me and it does seem like the scholarship thing is so far the best action that I could take. Thank you again anyway

QUOTE(moon yuen @ May 4 2009, 11:19 PM)
GO for Adcanced Diploma in Financial Accounting cum ACCA

U can also apply for external scholarship.
Pls use ACCA status to apply it !! GOt more money lo.... If use advance Diploma to apply , give u diploma only.
1. Hong Leong Bank Scholarship
2. Kwok foundation Scholarship
3. BritishTabacco scholarship
OK, thats it.
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Urm, well, I already have the internal scholarship, do you think I still have to go for the external one?
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post May 5 2009, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(`twinkles @ May 5 2009, 10:52 AM)
Thank you for your reply, it has been the most constructive reply so far smile.gif Anyway, I really dig the KL concept of studying due to their flexibility. Basically, I do not wish to continue in TARC due to some important facts, it has the worst timetable and part time lecturers ever. KSA, on the other hand, is located really near my house and I can save all the traveling time and use the time to study instead. But I understand what you are trying to tell me and it does seem like the scholarship thing is so far the best action that I could take. Thank you again anyway
Urm, well, I already have the internal scholarship, do you think I still have to go for the external one?
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Em just to let you know that there other college like KB that offered cheaper rates than KSA but only restricted to 1 or 2 lecturer. KSA also have some "bad apples" but just becareful when selecting lecturer.

External scholarship is quite rare unless you are being bonded. Reasoning is because the fees is quite minimal & its nature of exam based makes it quite subjective since student can choose how many papers to take each sitting & the variance & type of paper.
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QUOTE(`twinkles @ May 5 2009, 10:52 AM)
Urm, well, I already have the internal scholarship, do you think I still have to go for the external one?
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Why not ??

U just fill in the form & attend an interview. U will get RM 16, 000 for 2 years !!
This is much better than TARC internal scholarship !! (which u still get it, since it is automatic )

External one, give u RM4000-8000 /annum .

This is real money, not tuition fees waiver .

Anyway, the list given is not bonded, FYI.

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post May 5 2009, 01:19 PM

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anybody heard of EU Institue in pj that studies accounting??
is it good??
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QUOTE(Topace111 @ May 5 2009, 12:44 PM)
Em just to let you know that there other college like KB that offered cheaper rates than KSA but only restricted to 1 or 2 lecturer. KSA also have some "bad apples" but just becareful when selecting lecturer.

External scholarship is quite rare unless you are being bonded. Reasoning is because the fees is quite minimal & its nature of exam based makes it quite subjective since student can choose how many papers to take each sitting & the variance & type of paper.
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At least, in KSA we can choose which lecturers to attend but in TARC, there are no options and some of the part timers are really inexperienced and got serious complaints. I heard that KB is not that good?

QUOTE(moon yuen @ May 5 2009, 01:03 PM)
Why not ??

U just fill in the form & attend an interview. U will get RM 16, 000 for 2 years !!
This is much better than TARC internal scholarship !! (which u still get it, since it is automatic )

External one, give u RM4000-8000 /annum .

This is real money, not tuition fees waiver .

Anyway, the list given is not bonded, FYI.
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I didn't know what we can apply for external scholarship even though we already have the internal one. I thought we have to choose either one of them? Most of the external scholarships state this condition in their T&C. Or I have made a mistake? And why do I enrol in TARC and attend KSA tuition? I am confused
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At least, in KSA we can choose which lecturers to attend but in TARC, there are no options and some of the part timers are really inexperienced and got serious complaints. I heard that KB is not that good?
I didn't know what we can apply for external scholarship even though we already have the internal one. I thought we have to choose either one of them? Most of the external scholarships state this condition in their T&C. Or I have made a mistake? And why do I enrol in TARC and attend KSA tuition? I am confused
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I am not sure about that.

But, seems like some of my TARC friends are getting 2 scholarship together. My younger brother is like u, Internal Full scholarship holder yet getting external scholarship.
Untill now , no problem lo.

If u found that TARC lecturers are incompetent, u can go for outside tuitions.

Anyone, I only study TARC up to DIPLOMA level only... I opt for INTI Degree. Now, working liao.. & take ACCA too....

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anybody heard of EU Institue in pj that studies accounting??
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EU is just good for LCCI, and some class they use chinese to lecture(wat the h.ck, exam in English lecture in Chinese?) By this I think you can judge how well are them.

LCCI almost equivalent to Form 6 accounts. But if financial constraint, then why not. But for guys, LCCI not enough to support life, rather start doing sales.

I heard some friend from EU, after LCCI then study ACCA 1st stage, fail all the paper then give up. You can score in LCCI but ACCA, not all Tom cat & Henry can cope it.

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QUOTE(jacktai @ May 5 2009, 02:40 PM)
EU is just good for LCCI, and some class they use chinese to lecture(wat the h.ck, exam in English lecture in Chinese?) By this I think you can judge how well are them.

LCCI almost equivalent to Form 6 accounts. But if financial constraint, then why not. But for guys, LCCI not enough to support life, rather start doing sales.
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