This is based on my own experience.

In 2008, I've enrolled to a foundation course from UITM, asasi kejuteraan and to be honest, I really love the life in IPTA. I met a lot of friends, (since im staying in the dorm), played different types of sports, (they have a significant amount of sport facilities) and the lecturers are very professional indeed. I still remembered that there was this lecturer who graduated from US was really good..I always love being in her lectures.

Studying for a month before going to a college (scholarship) at UITM surely have given me a lot of sweet memories and technical points.

So, In 2010, I've finished my college studies and was enrolled to UniKL Micet, (an IPTS which I have to study a year in my scholarship agreement) and I was seriously disappointed by the fact that its totally different from what I've experienced in UiTM.

The sporting facilities are very bad and the lecturers were not up to my expectations..they were some lecturers who were holding PHD's..but most of my lecturers were around the age of 24-28; in which I've found the lectures were something that I tried to "avoid" and rather study on my own and make a group/case study with my friends.

Studying in IPTA does bring workmanship, togetherness and to some point, leadership that most IPTS lacks from. I've been in both universities and experienced it and I would rather not spend and put myself in the burden of debt just because I want to study in IPTS (unless I have no other choice).

Okay, so regarding job opportunities, in my most humble opinion, I would say being in IPTA has a higher job opportunity because most of the time in IPTA you've gotta sort and discipline yourself and most of the lecturers are very, very, very good. I'm not saying that IPTS don't have any good quality lecturers, its just that, being in IPTA it makes you more confident, disciplined and credible if you have the right friends, the right mindset and the willing to succeed.

Heck, I think the person itself after graduating from IPTA/IPTS would determine whether he/she obtain the career or the job of his/her choice.

Its like saying,

If you're from a rich or poor family,

Which has the highest opportunity to succeed in the future?

The debate will never ends.

Firstly, I personally do not see anything wrong regarding the terms "introvert" or "extrovert". Both are just what they are; individual "characteristics" of a person that's all; and there's absolutely nothing wrong with either one. Success/being good is based on a whole lot of other factors; definitely not based on being "introvert" or "extrovert". In universities, there are "introverts" who will be doing great, and "extroverts" who will be doing badly; and the other way round. (Introverts & extroverts will be found in both IPTS & IPTAs.)

Secondly, an individual can never solely be judged as "good" simply because he/she is highly sociable, full of high self-esteem, full of confidence, have high PR skills, and (or) is particularly pro-active, sporting, outgoing, open-minded, and (or) good in talking.. Because you'll never know the person right beside, the one who tend to be more quiet, reserved, shy, conservative, and (or) introverted; is actually the one who is having the right "tenacity", capabilities, mindset, thinking, skill, & talent for the job/role/position; far better than the talkative over-confident guy right beside. (A saying goes: "Being over confident is as good as having no confidence at all.") ("An empty vessel makes the most noise.")

P.S., having a "good" moral (or good moral values) in general is far more important & desirable than having so-called "Western Style Thinking" or "Eastern Style Thinking" and so on..

Thirdly, there is absolutely nothing wrong in studying/learning about Islamic history, culture, & civilization. (I personally find Islamic architecture, culture, & civilization to be very interesting.)

Finally, there is absolutely nothing wrong with "Classroom Style Teaching" or lectures. (We have it all the time too in IPTS.) There is always "Tutorials" for you to further demonstrate your enthusiasm, keenness, & participation. (You are free to even make appointments with your lecturers, or form your own study groups & tutorials.. The options are there; there is freedom of learning in tertiary level education.)

Regarding rules & regulation, there are also general "on campus rules" concerning behavior, appearance, & the code of conduct of individuals at private institutions. At Taylors for example, there is a very particularly strict rule for smokers, where a hefty penalty of RM10K will be imposed on anyone who is caught smoking on campus ground/premises.

In the end, at university/tertiary level, a good student will always be a good student; regardless of IPTS or IPTA. (The institution can never make you good or bad; at this level, you are on your own; it is for you to "carve" out your own path to make yourself good.) Regardless of "introvert" or "extrovert", you must find your own individual way to succeed.

Regards.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Dec 22 2010, 01:00 AM

to be fair, you shouldn't even be comparing one of the most exclusive IPTA in Malaysia with a mediocre IPTS like UniKL.........

agreed..maybe he should compare with nottingham and monash or even sunway

Here's my thoughts. You are welcome to edit any of this.

Admission
IPTS - You have $$$, you're in. Ada wang ada education.
IPTA - You have to compete with the whole Malaysia including those who already have contacts in the school which 99% they will be selected regardless of their results/CGPA

Fees
IPTS - 10x higher than IPTA

Facilities
IPTA - Offers more lecture halls, classes, equipments and fields for sports.

Lecture
Both depends on the lecturers, facilities, notes n etc

Strictness
IPTS - Less strict compared to IPTA (clothing, discipline, class attendance, curfew n etc)

Social
IPTS - Most are non-Malays and foreign students. More likely to talk about iPhones, Alienware, overseas vacation, LV, Prada.. u know what i mean.
IPTA - Most IPTA requires u to stay in campus during 1st year. Due to that reason, u'll be studying, lepaking, eating, shitting, showering, gaming, sharing porns, gossiping, going to class with your roomates/hostel block friends/group members.

Of course there's more to this, i'm just generalizing.

Time
It seems that IPTS has slightly more time to spent since they are not forced to join after class activities and the credit hours i believed are less. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Food
Most IPTS does not have their own cafe/food court. Even if they do, usually will be pricey.

Job opportunities and life after University/College
In my opinion this totally depends on the person itself. How u fully utilized your school's facilities, classes given and notes hand out to you. A smart person are those who can adapt to whatever situation given and knows how to make the right decision and choices with all the resources available.

yes,
PTPTN never gave loan for overseas programmes.
for the students who want to postponed their payment to PTPTN in the cases of furthering study, they need to write a letter and inform PTPTN.

this is the problem of malaysians...........

they are not aware of their own country's news, development...
i'm pretty sure that most of the non-bumi's dun know that they can apply for JPA scholarship....
the possibilities to get JPA scholarship is the same between bumi and non-bumi.
which the gov had anounce and discussed in the parliament.
that they can get an aid in any contigency difficulties...
and most importantly they dun know their eligibility to that.

even the bumi's also dun know abt that.



This post has been edited by violet05: Feb 15 2011, 03:32 PM

I am studying in a private university. Personally, I prefer a private university. Who says private university doesn't have sport facilities and etc? We have basketball courts, olympic size swimming pool, squash cours and etc.

The food in the cafeteria is not too pricey also, it range between RM3-RM5 for a plate of economic rice (3-4 dishes). Now, who say it's pricey? Oh btw, not all private universities students' talk about Prada, LV, latest gadgets and etc. There are more down-to-earth students that you can ever imagine.

No offence, not being a racist here. My friends who are non-bumiputras are mistreated in local universities. How is that so? I don't know.

p/s: No offence to anyone, really. If I've offended you. My apologies. Just stating the fact.

This post has been edited by cmy1612: Feb 9 2011, 12:10 PM

its depend on how you present yourself...ipta/ipts both can provide good study environment.

but...if you want to choose IPTS...please choose highly recognise ipts and you will get the benefir

strongly agree with you.

This post has been edited by isamuxakira: Apr 29 2011, 11:08 PM

This is all bullshit. ipta and ipts in malaysia suck. The best solution is go to universities overseas. I guarantee you that it will be easy for you to get a job with a good pay in the future

Those are also bullshit.

if u talk about top 200 uni, then i might agree with u that the grads will have better job prospect. if u say some chaplang uni overseas in countries like romania etc etc, then sorry, what you say i total b/s

This post has been edited by Knight_2008: Jul 27 2011, 05:26 PM

so...one interviewer represents the whole population of interviewers eh?
i had both experience of IPTA&IPTS. One thing in common,the determination to be successful regardless of which uni/college one is from.

same universities aren't we...


i think like many said.

IPTS : $$$ + not to strict
IPTA: $$ + certain ethics or low that is quite restricting
OVERSEAS : $$$$$$$$$$$ + having either one of IPTA or IPTS law

For me it depends on your skills.....once you have a skills you will get jobs

I saw from a report that there's more students from IPTA who are unemployed compared to IPTS students. Like some forummers already said, IPTA produces more graduates compared to IPTS and it is not surprised that the report showed more IPTA students unemployed. The report only showed the results of the study but didn't bother to show how the study was conducted. We don't know how valid is the report without knowing the methodology of the study.

one of the reasons could be IPTS only focusses on marketable jobs.

ever seen any IPTS offering Bachelor of Forestry - Orchidology?

IPTA is better since the graduates able to work in both public and private sector as well as overseas such as Singapore. For IPTS, the chances are slimmer to work in the public sector. Furthermore, IPTA is cost effective and many smart and hardworking students at there since the competition is tough and they been though STPM which is far more difficult than a degree. Nevertheless, for IPTS, many students think that their standard is better than IPTA but actually many tips are given to them for their final exam. But frankly speaking, if you are employer, would you choose UM or Taylor graduates? Btw, I am student from UTAR and I found out that the lecturer from IPTA is better than IPTS as their knowledge of the subject is far more comprehensive whereas the lecturer from IPTS just know the surface of the meaning. Many students depend on the tips that given by the lecturer as the lecturer wants the uni to acknowledge that he able to teach students well.

This post has been edited by ainafoon: Aug 3 2012, 12:52 AM

UM top student > Taylors top student.

Any f***ing day.

... just chipping in my 2 cents opinion..

Originally Educational Institutions do NOT exists for JOB market demands.

But now, the perception is, JOB market demands etc etc knows something about etc etc, they dun need to know bout etc etc.
So EDUCATION must provide that.
If the institution does not teach that requirement, that institution is crap.

come on. The purpose of studying is to learn, and gain knowledge. If education is being influenced by market demand, whats to stop them dropping important but less in demand subjects off?