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post Apr 7 2009, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Apr 7 2009, 11:28 PM)
you dont need to make ur subject to stay in the middle to get the exposure correct...you can always recompose by using AE-Lock to lock the exposure and then recompose.  nod.gif Flash to slightly lit the subject to get the details i suppose...wah..so good got gf to let u shoot such photos..really nice...print it out and hang on ur bedroom wall la laugh.gif
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if u use AE lock to lock the exposure of ur friends face...the background would get over exposed(since u previously said its standing at the bright bg)



actually im planning to print out a few poster size photo to stick on my wall(currently staying at the old fasioned..ugly..small rented house in sg)..so that my house would look that boring..lol..but im not sure how big can i print..

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Aiyo confusing doh. Lol.
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post Apr 7 2009, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(achew @ Apr 7 2009, 11:31 PM)
if u use AE lock to lock the exposure of ur friends face...the background would get over exposed(since u previously said its standing at the bright bg)
actually im planning to print out a few poster size photo to stick on my wall(currently staying at the old fasioned..ugly..small rented house in sg)..so that my house would look that boring..lol..but im not sure how big can i print..
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hmmm u r correct too maybe should meter between the face and background? laugh.gif ...hmmm i guess DRO is the key here..get A700 and DRO+5 brows.gif

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Whts so confusing? u mean the metering and AE-lock?
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post Apr 7 2009, 11:57 PM

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heya! what's cookin yaw!? this DRO thingy sounds cool wei... what is it?
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Everything you guys talking about. AlphaBeta : What's the cheapest price of a F42 in AUS ar?
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QUOTE(millenia3000 @ Apr 7 2009, 11:57 PM)
heya! what's cookin yaw!? this DRO thingy sounds cool wei... what is it?
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in simple term..it helps u to reveal some dark area while nt over exposing the bright parts...
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:02 AM

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Should the DRO be turned on in every shot ar?
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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Apr 8 2009, 12:02 AM)
Should the DRO be turned on in every shot ar?
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hmm.gif DRO on aye two hundred?
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:05 AM

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trying ISO 1600 on my a700:

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btw, talking about DRO. It does not affect RAW files right?

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post Apr 8 2009, 12:10 AM

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SHOfrE3zE, you might want to tone done the sharpening. DRO does affect RAW - it does not enhance the shadows, you still need to do Shadow Fill yourself, but it does cause your camera to pick a faster shutter speed to keep the highlights from being blown. So it will be noisier because it is slightly underexposed compared to when DRO is off.

Kul | Mo0: You can leave around 9:45pm, walk to KLCC, hop on the LRT to Kelana Jaya and reach there around 10:30pm. That should be a good time to grab a cab or bus to Damansara Utama. I take the bus from KL Sentral to One Utama and it passes by DU.

You'll want to turn off DRO for shots where you want it to retain some overall scene contrast. Come for the TT I'll show you what I mean. DRO is best turned off in the evening and night unless you're using flash.

This is what the A700/A900 can do with DRO Level 5:

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(This picture has had some minor dodging in addition.)

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I think you know by now that if you usually shoot in such sunny conditions without DRO, the trees would be nearly black!

You can do the same thing with RAW or a HDR program. Really this is what HDR is meant to do, not those cartoony-looking pictures!

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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Apr 8 2009, 12:05 AM)
trying ISO 1600 on my a700:

btw, talking about DRO. It does not affect RAW files right?
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have you upgraded to firmware v4?

iinm, DRO does not affect RAW..you can add DRO during pp using the software sony gave with the cam
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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Apr 8 2009, 12:05 AM)
trying ISO 1600 on my a700:

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btw, talking about DRO. It does not affect RAW files right?
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wah noisy
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Apr 8 2009, 12:10 AM)
Really this is what HDR is meant to do, not those cartoony-looking pictures!
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lol...
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:20 AM

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moon from yesterday smile.gif

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post Apr 8 2009, 12:21 AM

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albnok: thx bro. yup i did some sharpening on it coz it's a bit soft. guess it's a big mistake then.

btw, i'm using firmware 4 with NR off

this is the original picture with no sharpening (just editted on the colour curve):
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is this normal for ISO1600 with a700?

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post Apr 8 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Apr 7 2009, 11:58 PM)
Everything you guys talking about. AlphaBeta : What's the cheapest price of a F42 in AUS ar?
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forget bout buying in Aus..definately more expensive.

Albert
the DRO thingy, is it causing the colour noise in ur picture?
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cjlai : what lens you used ar?
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:30 AM

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DRO+ oni on A200?
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QUOTE(millenia3000 @ Apr 8 2009, 12:30 AM)
DRO+ oni on A200?
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yes...only 3 options on A100 to 350 - Off, DRO and DRO+. Ok get A700 to do +5! poison enough?? brows.gif


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QUOTE(SHOfrE3zE @ Apr 8 2009, 12:21 AM)
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speaking of ISO...

ISO 4000
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post Apr 8 2009, 12:37 AM

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SHOfrE3zE, you could mask the sharpening off so it doesn't occur on the noise in the blues. That said it has a film-like texture which I don't mind. smile.gif

AlphaBeta: Yes, because DRO is basically an automatic Shadow Fill. Highlight Recovery is done by the camera, which chooses to underexpose to retain the tones in the white clouds. So even though I shot it at ISO200, the blues are a good 2 stops below (0 EV) while the buildings are possibly 3-4 stops below the sky (ISO1600-3200.)

When you underexpose an ISO200 shot by -2 EV, and bring it back up to 0 EV brightness, the picture has basically become an ISO800 shot.

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