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post Mar 22 2009, 12:48 PM, updated 17y ago

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Lets discuss the items that are needed for people who will be visiting cold countries like me who have no experience.

I assume that winter will be defined as below 5 degree celcius rite?? before that still can manage with normal jacket.

What are the items that we will need to prepare? Full set winter clothes - snowcap, skarf, gloves, long john, sweater, winter jacket

Lip gloss? Moisturizer?

For those with experience help plz..
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Mar 22 2009, 12:48 PM)
Lets discuss the items that are needed for people who will be visiting cold countries like me who have no experience.

I assume that winter will be defined as below 5 degree celcius rite?? before that still can manage with normal jacket.

What are the items that we will need to prepare? Full set winter clothes - snowcap, skarf, gloves, long john, sweater, winter jacket

Lip gloss? Moisturizer?

For those with experience help plz..
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post Mar 22 2009, 01:23 PM

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how much is the shoe? where can i find in penang?
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post Mar 22 2009, 01:28 PM

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which country are you going.?
If Japan..the shoes around ¥2000-¥3000..
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post Mar 22 2009, 01:43 PM

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LOL Japan no more Winter...now japan is SPring already average tempreture is 15C - 22C

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Mar 22 2009, 01:43 PM)
LOL Japan no more Winter...now japan is SPring already average tempreture is 15C - 22C
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post Mar 22 2009, 06:32 PM

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cotton inner shirt, outer winter wear, gloves, head gear, ear piece, snow shoes, lip gloss, thick socks, shades
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post Mar 22 2009, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Mar 22 2009, 06:32 PM)
cotton inner shirt, outer winter wear, gloves, head gear, ear piece, snow shoes, lip gloss, thick socks, shades
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shades necessary meh? i tot for styl eonly..

2 -3 k yen can get good shoe d? I mean the water proff shoe for winter 1 wor not those normal sports shoe..
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post Mar 25 2009, 06:36 PM

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Heating pad also? In case you feel very cold and you already wear many clothes... You can go to Winter Time and ask them also. They have a brochure that tells you what is necessary...
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post Mar 25 2009, 10:23 PM

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you will also need a trench coat
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Mar 22 2009, 11:02 PM)
shades necessary meh? i tot for styl eonly..

2 -3 k yen can get good shoe d? I mean the water proff shoe for winter 1 wor not those normal sports shoe..
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i dunno.. from where i come from the snow reflects sunlight.. and it hurts d eyes... d sun shines straight into d eyes from side ways unlike msia from d top.

winter is not only water proof but insulated... best if get from 3m

QUOTE(elite_smart @ Mar 25 2009, 06:36 PM)
Heating pad also? In case you feel very cold and you already wear many clothes... You can go to Winter Time and ask them also. They have a brochure that tells you what is necessary...
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i dont think heating pad is nessacery unless u r going outdoor camping in d snow or u r above 50 yo.... i suggest look out for this brand called 'hunt' they are much cheaper than winter time.. and also good

QUOTE(zariqcools @ Mar 25 2009, 10:23 PM)
you will also need a trench coat
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that 1 if u r going europe/japan/north korea n u wanna look like 1 of d locals
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post Mar 26 2009, 12:38 AM

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thermal wear is quite important.. n jackets lighter the possible ..
cashmere would be good but pure cashmere could be exp but light.
when u are cold u would wear layers so if its heavy u will feel tired easily so try to choose light clothes but can stand the cold type


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Most important is gloves + something to protect your ears, and maybe a scarf for the neck.

Also depends on how cold the place you're going is -- if it's normally within -5 or warmer then no need to bother with long johns or inner wear, just jeans + 3-layer top is enough (shirt + sweater + jacket).
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Hi cookie. For moisturizer, I recommend vaseline. You can use it on your lips too.
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woolen scarf, long johns, inner long sleeves top, woolen sweater, woolen cap thingy, woolen socks, gloves, skiing gloves (if you're going to play with snow), winter pants (inside got another layer wan, it shud be waterproof and windproof) and windbreaker..

if you're really scare of the cold, get a "monkey mask", i dunno what is it really called but my parents called it monkey mask. it's something like those robbers wear on their head to cover up their ears, mouth and nose.

also bring vaseline, it's like super super important, u can use it for your lips, fingers, legs, wherever. if the weather is too dry, your skin will itch also.. so don't bath for too long even though it's like so nice to bath hot water in cold weather, cause the hot water will make ur skin even more itchy.

when i go cold countries, normally before going out and before sleeping i will rub vaseline onto my fingertips and on my feet. then put on socks. oh yea, wear socks to sleep also, it can really keep u warm.. somehow my socks will not stay on until i get up.. lol.

as for shoes, i've been wearing normal sport shoes that we can get over here, has never been a problem for me.. of course u have to get those more rugged ones for tracking like that.

anyway, you go to those winter clothing shop and they will help u out wan la.. winter time, etc.

oh yea, when i was in europe, some uk tourist told us to get hand warmers, it will really keep your hands warm so the fingers wont feel so numb if you're not wearing gloves.. but i dunno whether can get them here in msia or not..

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QUOTE(joeylny @ Mar 25 2009, 04:38 PM)
thermal wear is quite important.. n jackets lighter the possible ..
cashmere would be good but pure cashmere could be exp but light.
when u are cold u would wear layers so if its heavy u will feel tired easily so try to choose light clothes but can stand the cold type
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it's good to wear layers, at least when you are go to some warm place (like shopping mall) and you can take out one by one until you feel not too cold and hot. otherwise you will heat to dead if you wear only one.
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post Mar 27 2009, 05:11 PM

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there very dry then will get itchy?? if thats the case im really scared.. will the lotion/moisturizer help?
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QUOTE(deodorant @ Mar 26 2009, 05:35 AM)
Most important is gloves + something to protect your ears, and maybe a scarf for the neck.

Also depends on how cold the place you're going is -- if it's normally within -5 or warmer then no need to bother with long johns or inner wear, just jeans + 3-layer top is enough (shirt + sweater + jacket).
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Mar 27 2009, 05:11 PM)
there very dry then will get itchy?? if thats the case im really scared.. will the lotion/moisturizer help?
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will help to a certain extent only.. still will itch
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post Mar 28 2009, 02:42 AM

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get the local lotion coz it's more suitable for their local weather. Bring some lotion from here first so u can use it first. Once u're there, get some lotion over there from the pharmacy or supermarket.

if u're going UK, would recommend Marks and Spencer's lotion. It can be as cheap as 1 pound per bottle.
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-55 celcius? u got type wrong?? got place so cold 1 meh..or u stay in the north pole?
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if it's not windy then u dun need to worry so much la..
but if it's windy and cold then kao lat edi lor.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Mar 28 2009, 04:35 PM)
-55 celcius? u got type wrong?? got place so cold 1 meh..or u stay in the north pole?
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QUOTE(mckevin @ Mar 28 2009, 05:43 PM)
alaska
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notworthy.gif during winter it is that crazy... n my city is counted d warmest already... the place i wanna work in is -60 celcius coldest

QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Mar 28 2009, 05:47 PM)
if it's not windy then u dun need to worry so much la..
but if it's windy and cold then kao lat edi lor.. laugh.gif
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the wind can penetrate cheap jackets and freeze u so cold ur bones hurt... ur ears wanna drop off lor
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QUOTE(noonian @ Mar 28 2009, 02:42 AM)
get the local lotion coz it's more suitable for their local weather. Bring some lotion from here first so u can use it first. Once u're there, get some lotion over there from the pharmacy or supermarket.

if u're going UK, would recommend Marks and Spencer's lotion. It can be as cheap as 1 pound per bottle.
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Agree, buy your lotion over there it works better.
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QUOTE(f4tE @ Mar 27 2009, 05:11 PM)
there very dry then will get itchy?? if thats the case im really scared.. will the lotion/moisturizer help?
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Lotion helps, even though u might still feel itchy but must apply. I'm just back from COLD country, my skin is still dry and itchy cry.gif
And lip gloss, ensure you start apply before you arrive, lip cracks n dry is no joke.
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wow..working in alaska.. iwonder how is it like there. only get to watch on tv about iceman living in igloo but dunno the real situation....

can the loion i buy be use for face also or do i need to buy separate moisturizer for face?
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if face, its better to use ur usual moisturizer..
it doesnt mean dry then no pimples or whatever, some lotion might be too much for ur face.. u can try to go to their local pharmacy to get their face moisturizer lor..

but then sometimes my face is so dry and itchy, i just smack on some vaseline.. then come back here all pimples lol.. sweat.gif
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Assuming ambient temperature of around -5C to +5C, my personal preference would be for:

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Leather jacket + sweater/sweatshirt (cotton or wool) + shirt/turtleneck + leather gloves; leather is great for blocking wind but you will need layering to keep warm
- Alternatively if you have a good thick down jacket, you can be very warm. I have a North Face down liner for my ski jacket, and it is so good at keeping me warm that I can wear just a t-shirt or turtleneck plus the down liner and it is enough to keep warm in -5C to 0C.

Jeans + thermal underwear (if you feel cold - North Face and Columbia has nice comfy ones)
Cap/scarf/balaclava to protect ears/neck (if you have turtleneck, then maybe no need scarf) - most heat is lost via the head, hence covering your head will keep you warm.

More formal:
Trench coat (wool/leather or other material) on top of sweater (wool recommended, cotton ok), plus shirt/turtleneck + leather gloves; down linings will make it warmer
If wearing a suit, you can find a vest to wear under the blazer (on top of shirt) to keep you warm.
Pants + thermal underwear (if needed) - pants are generally thinner than jeans; if trench coat is long down to knees, that also provides some protection
Hat/scarf/ear muff to protect ears/neck

If in snow/icy conditions: consider a good pair of Timberland ankle-high shoes (or other similar types) with deep grooves on the soles. These should be water proof and in combination with a good pair of woolen or thick cotton, should help keep your feet warm.

For your lips - Vaseline; cheaper than buying chapsticks/lip balm and (at least for me) works better. You will need it, since without it your lips will get very dry, crack and bleed.
For your skin - Get a good moisturiser/lotion. In winter, skin gets very dry and will get that dry flaky white look if you don't take care of it. Certain areas like your fingers may crack and bleed. If you find your lotion is not doing the job, get a "richer" one. Ask your local pharmacy for help if you need more details, usually they have many types there. Note that for your face, you probably should use a different one from the lotion for the rest of the body, as the face is more sensitive and if the lotion is too "rich" you may get some pimples.

I used to live in a place where it snows 7 months in the year (Oct-April) and at the height of winter, the temps are about -20C, with wind chill of -30C. I wore generally similar clothes as described above, adding a layer whenever I felt colder. Max I ever wore was: thermal t-shirt + turtleneck + sweater (cotton) + my North Face ski jacket (outer waterproof shell + down liner), cap (thick cotton), thermal pants + jeans, leather gloves (with thin lining gloves inside, I hope you know what I mean), ankle-high Timberland-type water-proof shoes with thick cotton socks. That was in -20C.

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how cold can u guys stand? wat's d coldest until u guys cannot tahan..?
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How about the winter in Melbourne? How cold can it get and how warm?
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Mar 31 2009, 04:13 PM)
How about the winter in Melbourne? How cold can it get and how warm?
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At night it can reach 0.
During the day it's between 5 to 10 degrees C.

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Anyone here know the best place to get ORI Timberland 2 in 1 Jacket ( jacket {{waterproof}} & Wool shirt)..

Definitely with good price.. currently timberland is selling it at RM 800..


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QUOTE(bhorng @ May 25 2009, 01:06 PM)
Anyone here know the best place to get ORI Timberland 2 in 1 Jacket ( jacket {{waterproof}} & Wool shirt)..

Definitely with good price.. currently timberland is selling it at RM 800..
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Can't say for Timberland in Malaysia, since I find them too expensive here. Since 2005, all my Timberlands I have bought in HK. Much cheaper, especially during sales.
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u need snow shoes.
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Haiyoo...all these people giving you instruction to go camping with the eskimos in the North Pole laaaaa

This past winter I was in a place for a few months with temp going low to -20 and snowing very heavily...

1. The temperature won't really hurt unless you're planning to be outside for more than an hour. Even though -20 sounds drastic, if it's just for 30 mins or so it is not bad at all.

You won't need long johns unless you wanna be out for more than an hour. It's really icky to wear too. A pair of jeans will do. Jeans are far better than any other material cause it's stiff abit and there will be some space between your legs and the cloth so the air inside will act as an insulator. Slacks will tend to cling to your legs so you will feel the cold.

As for jackets, you can choose between a stylish wool coat which is much more comfortable or a bulky down jacket. In terms of warmth, both is roughly the same. For wool jacket, get one with a waterproof outside layer if you're going to a place with lots of snow. As for down jackets, they are all waterproof and get one with down filling about 400-500. The number is printed on the sleeve normally. Getting one with too much filling will result in a bulky uncomfortable jacket.

The wind is really a problem. Even at 0 C a blow of wind is killing. That is why I like those woll trench coats cause they are long up to the knees.

For sweater hmm get a thin wool sweater. Cashmere. I don't think they have it in Malaysia. Best is to get a thick cotton one. Those thick wool ones in the winter stores are really bulky and icky.

2. Headgear. Unless you are bald, your head won't feel cold. So just get a cap or light snowcap so the snow won't get into your hair melt and leave you with wet hair.

DO BUY EAR MUFFS. The wind on your ears is super killing you will need it.

Get lipbalm.I reccomend ZA's vitamin lip something. All brands offer almost equal protection against dry lips, but ZA's one isn't waxy and has a citrus flavor. Trust me using those normal lipbalms for the first time, it will feel like you just ate some super oily food and your lips is al coated with oil, damn icky.

Get a scarf too. Normal cotton scarf will do. If you wanna buy wool, make sure it's cashmere and it feels super smooth like cotton. Normal wool is very pocky and you won't want to wear it.

3. Hands and Feet.

Get a pair of leather gloves because it's more flexible. Don't get those skiing gloves. They are wayyyy to warm and bulky.

A new pair of sneaks will be good enough for light snow.

For heavy snow like maybe more than 1/2 inch all over..then get Timberland boots. They are flexible, comfortable, waterproof and their sole is very good to prevent slips. Getting snow boots with spikes is too much in my opinion. Man I was ankle high boots only where the snow at my place reached up to the knees

You don't need wool socks unless your wanna be outside for long. Leather shoes are pretty warm already. Normal cotton socks if fine. If you wanna get wool one, make sure it's cashmere again. And try to get cashmere mixed with silk. Lighter and more comfortable.
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how cold does canada hamilton gets? does anyone knows>?
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Hi all,
I'm going to Vechta, Germany next week for 2 weeks.
I got information that there will be -10 degree Celsius...

What should i prepare before i go?
What else should i extra aware of?

Thanks for your precious advices!!! icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Nov 5 2009, 07:27 PM)
Hi all,
I'm going to Vechta, Germany next week for 2 weeks.
I got information that there will be -10 degree Celsius...

What should i prepare before i go?
What else should i extra aware of?

Thanks for your precious advices!!! icon_question.gif
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-10C ??? U sure as day time hi or nite time low.. 2 weeks from now?
Nov 13 forecast is avg 9C.
http://www.weathercity.com/de/vechta/

do get a nice pair or boots. water proof will keep water out even its raining.
do layer up to keep warm.
mittens will keep hands warmer than gloves.







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use anything not made from wool if not u scratch your skin out
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I think the quality n material of clothing really matters. It is pointless wearing 5 to 6 layers if the material does not stand cold...

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well, having stayed in places that have harsh winters (-30C on a bad day) for 5-6yrs..
I can tell U, U just need a good jacket, anything under can be your regular summer clothes.
if u choose to wear a SINGLE good quality + material jacket I am pretty sure U'll feel freezing cold.
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is hand gloves necessary?
what kind of lotion should i bring?
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gloves depends..
plan to spend >1hr outdoors and afraid of cold, yes U do and most likely U want to keep your hands in the pockets of the jackets to keep warm.
else just keep them in your jacket.
super afraid of cold get mittens!

lotion? anything for dry skin would be fine.

heavy winds, u may wanna consider ear muffler. or wear a cap to cover your ears.

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For me...
-5 c , i'll be wearing a shirt , a fleece jacket , a winter jacket with great wind protection + hood . Fleece scraf would be in my bag and a wool glove.
wool socks with normal converse shoe. LoL....

That would keep me very warm..

Fleece jacket : light weight jacket , keeps u very warm. great for indoor.
Lotion : Vaseline biggrin.gif
Gloves : It's not that heavy, bring if u have. If not, go there only buy lo. Not like it's super expensive.

Winter in germany = most of the days rainy & Windy.
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for me is my working attire + trench coat when i was in calgary.
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Thx guys... need to prepare anything for rainy days?
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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Nov 7 2009, 05:10 PM)
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you don't need umbrella there.. since the wind is too strong.

hood would be handy ... or a cap or something... smile.gif


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care to tell period of time you will be in germany?
i think -10c is too low for germany. even in russia (slightly south of moscow) the most extreme temperature will be -10 to - 18c in early january and that temperature will probably last only 1 week then back to -5 to -10c .

my advice is to check the perceived temperature(take in wind factor). in accuweather.com that is called realfeel.

if air temperature and average to strong wind then need long johns and good winter coat. snow cap important to protect head and ears. gloves and scarf depends on individual. Good boots that is wind water proof and enough traction so that not so easily fall on ice. if got experience of walking on ice you can ignore the traction of shoe as sliding on ice is much faster than walking lol.
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QUOTE(slimey @ Nov 8 2009, 01:41 AM)
care to tell period of time you will be in germany?
i think -10c is too low for germany. even in russia (slightly south of moscow) the most extreme temperature will be -10 to - 18c in early january and that temperature will probably last only 1 week then back to -5 to -10c .

my advice is to check the perceived temperature(take in wind factor). in accuweather.com that is called realfeel.

if air temperature and average to strong wind then need long johns and good winter coat. snow cap important to protect head and ears. gloves and scarf depends on individual. Good boots that is wind water proof and enough traction so that not so easily fall on ice. if got experience of walking on ice you can ignore the traction of shoe as sliding on ice is much faster than walking lol.
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maybe he added windchill factor into his temp.

but as for long johns...... HAHAHAHAHAAAAA u live in what century unker ?
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wonder if he will be working in the heated building most of the time there.
if so, a thick socks and winter boots maybe too much in a heated room
TS, are u planning to stay out for a long time. or u just walking from the car to the building?

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Nov 9 2009, 12:15 AM)
wonder if he will be working in the heated building most of the time there.
if so, a thick socks and winter boots  maybe too much in a heated room
TS, are u planning to stay out for a long time. or u just walking from the car to the building?
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weekdays will work in indoor office... weekend maybe go out jalan jalan...
so do i need to wear long john if going to the office? whats the temperature indoor?
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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Nov 9 2009, 08:30 PM)
weekdays will work in indoor office... weekend maybe go out jalan jalan...
so do i need to wear long john if going to the office? whats the temperature indoor?
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no nid to siao ok. long john for old people. alot of old people also dun wear long john.
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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Nov 9 2009, 08:30 PM)
weekdays will work in indoor office... weekend maybe go out jalan jalan...
so do i need to wear long john if going to the office? whats the temperature indoor?
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indoor in office, if they have heat turn on can be pretty warm! wear long johns and boots and U'll be sweating!
go out jalan jalan.. U plan to stay outside more often than inside? where U plan jalan jalan.. germany.. weekends small town many place are closed. bar are open, drink alot of beer, alcohol will keep u warm.. LOL
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QUOTE(Mr.Wokayyy @ Nov 9 2009, 09:13 PM)
no nid to siao ok. long john for old people. alot of old people also dun wear long john.
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no people wear long john? then how if cold?

QUOTE(patryn33 @ Nov 9 2009, 11:01 PM)
indoor in office, if they have heat turn on can be pretty warm! wear long johns and boots and U'll be sweating!
go out jalan jalan.. U plan to stay outside more often than inside? where U plan jalan jalan.. germany.. weekends small town many place are closed. bar are open, drink alot of beer, alcohol will keep u warm.. LOL
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that means i no need to wear long john to office?
most of the time tat will spend outdoor will be Weekend only... don't know where they are bringing me to...
i wish to go Cologne, but about 250km+- from my living place(Vechta)...
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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Nov 10 2009, 06:56 AM)
that means i no need to wear long john to office?
most of the time tat will spend outdoor will be Weekend only... don't know where they are bringing me to...
i wish to go Cologne, but about 250km+- from my living place(Vechta)...
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few ppl today wear long johns. Chinese ppl do in China, reason no central heating and fire do dies out at 3am in the morning. do need it to keep warm!
in Western countries, buildings are heating wear them so uncomfortable.

imagine wearing long john and layers of clothes in a place heated to >25C.
Koln is about 2hr drive. only have a nice church, and walking on the streets checking out the shops. no worry man, no long johns can tahan.
that worried just wear loh... too hot just go into the bathroom and start stripping!

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QUOTE(Eu.Gene @ Nov 10 2009, 06:56 AM)
no people wear long john? then how if cold?
that means i no need to wear long john to office?
most of the time tat will spend outdoor will be Weekend only... don't know where they are bringing me to...
i wish to go Cologne, but about 250km+- from my living place(Vechta)...
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i've stayed at calgary for more than a year and i didnt even touch long johns.
the trick to staying warm is to cover your chest with a good jacket , preferably a skiing jacket since u're a newbie,
wear a shawl or a scarf to cover your neck and when it freezes and gets too difficult to breathe, use the shawl/scarf to cover your mouth and nose and ears.
then make sure your feet are warm, leather shoes are good since u're going to work. they might get slippery though.

your legs will be fine dude. and try not to wear inner wool else u'll itch the whole damn day.
if you really cannot tahan, use thermal ski wear.
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I'm looking for winter wear, may i know where to buy cheaper winter wear in KL?
Please advise.


Thank you.



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depends. 2nd hand winter jackets u can buy in summit subang. probably at smaller malls also you can get. or buy from ebay/lelong.

new ones you cna buy at klang bukit tinggi jusco mall. at the ground floor i forgot what the outlet's name.
if you dont mind you can hunt around some FOS and reject shop outlets. They also do carry winter wear.

if you're looking for heavy winter wear which is meant for negative temperatures, my advice is to use ski clothings. brands are important as we chinese say "yat fun chin yat fun for" meaning dollar to dollar for quality.

my winter jacket (ski jacket) has lasted me for 14 years now. RM 4000.
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guys! thank you very much!
Today is my 3rd day here already!
I'm doing so fine because of your advices/suggestions!

the problem i'm having now is a little communication difficulty...
you guys never ask me to learn some german before i come... XD

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well, well.... what to prepare for winter in Germany.. learn German, thats valid for all season not especially Winter... LOL


so freezing cold to U at -10C??? or much warmer than that??? wet?

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I'm looking for winter wear, may i know where to buy cheaper winter wear in KL?
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try sharafalis...it's at jalan tuanku abdul rahman (near sogo).
they have pretty heavy winter stuffs..
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Hi there,

My family will be heading to Korea by this coming November.

Just want to check with you guys, where can I get jacket that suitable for Korea weather?

Reasonable price also tongue.gif
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This has been extensively discussed in the existing Korea thread.

Anyway, since no such topic so far, probably maintain this now.

Depending on which date in Nov & checking the history weather chart (Can google), In Early till mid Nov, Korea weather is ~ 10-15C..Thus you need not a down (Young bird fether) jacket. thicker sweater will do.

However if Mid- end nov, temp probably drop to 5-10C and thus a good thick jacket is important (probably mixture of down & feather)

Down jacket is important if you are going there after Nov or Dec.

Places to buy winter clothing here includes those winter clothing shops such as Universal Travelers, Winter Times and even Going Places

You can google the locations of these chained stores..Most of them located at big shopping malls.
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If you are the stylo mylo type, perhaps you can try Zara. They have some nice jackets (male & female). But bloody expensive!!
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I'm going to China next wk and from my research the temp is ranging form 15C to 5C so i'm looking for advise on how heavy my jacket needs to be. I have this problem everytime i agak-agak when i'm there by the time my next trip comes around i can't judge properly how thick jacket i need.
Would fleece only be enough or would i need a padded jacket as well.

Would appreciate it if anyone has opinion to share.

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QUOTE(happyshirt @ Oct 16 2010, 10:07 AM)
I'm going to China next wk and from my research the temp is ranging form 15C to 5C so i'm looking for advise on how heavy my jacket needs to be. I have this problem everytime i agak-agak when i'm there by the time my next trip comes around i can't judge properly how thick jacket i need.
Would fleece only be enough or would i need a padded jacket as well.

Would appreciate it if anyone has opinion to share.

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It is not how thick or how heavy the jacket is, it how windproof the jacket is!
The wind chill factor is the one that will freeze your joints and bones!
Are you there for business or leisure tours? Most of the time indoors or outdoors? hmm.gif
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OUTDOORS all the way!! i'm goin to jiuzhaigou. So my jackets range from light fleece to heavier and a waterproof.
I'm thinkin 1 fleece n the waterproof which shud take care of the wind chill factor and drizzle if it happens.
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Hmm if I am going to Korea, do I need special winter shoes or normal sport shoes will do?
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Thinking of those shoes too..UT selling at RM90 for child & adult ~ RM110.

However, I was told can get cheaper in Korea? or those to Beijing can get cheaper there too...So going wth leather shoe nia..see whether can walk on slippery surface, if can't buy there haha
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Hope this link does help a bit

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i went to corezone for my clothes for my trip to switzerland recently.

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i always hear ppl only say about protection for the upper part only,what about the bottom? just jeans is enuf?
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i always hear ppl only say about protection for the upper part only,what about the bottom? just jeans is enuf?
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Just wear a layer under your jeans and you should be fine. Guys can go for long johns, and girls can go for tights.
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Just wear a layer under your jeans and you should be fine. Guys can go for long johns, and girls can go for tights.
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Leather boots with thick sole.
Crack thin ice with boots b4 walking cos very slippery.
Better to walk on snow covered area than ice.
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The winter wear fashion in Malaysia is really bad, trust me.

You'll feel embarrassed wearing the jackets sold in stores such as Universal Traveller when you are in the colder countries. You'll stand out like a clown in a nunnery.

My advice is to get a nice pullover or turtleneck, a warm scarf, a trenchcoat or a nice jacket (no fluffy colorful ones please >.<), gloves, warm socks, waterproof leather shoes and a pair of thick jeans. Thermal underwear is not required unless you are going to areas of -15 deg C or more.
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 9 2010, 05:28 PM)
The winter wear fashion in Malaysia is really bad, trust me.

You'll feel embarrassed wearing the jackets sold in stores such as Universal Traveller when you are in the colder countries.  You'll stand out like a clown in a nunnery.

My advice is to get a nice pullover or turtleneck, a warm scarf, a trenchcoat or a nice jacket (no fluffy colorful ones please >.<), gloves, warm socks, waterproof leather shoes and a pair of thick jeans.  Thermal underwear is not required unless you are going to areas of -15 deg C or more.
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Same feeling about the 'winter' wear in Malaysia. Beside being way out of fashion, most are just not practical for actual wintery conditions.

Moreover unless you are constantly outdoors a lot, there is no point to pile on the many layer of clothings as you'll be moving between warm indoor and cold outdoors. Just get a good trench-coat.

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Yeah I agree on the style of winter wear in Malaysia... when you go overseas you look hideous. And you so obviously stand out as a tourist..

I'll be going to shanghai this December. No central heating. sad.gif

I'll be piling on..


T-shirt, thick vest, fleece jacket.
Jeans, scarf, gloves.
Long johns (at night)


Considering if I need boots to warm the lower part of my legs?
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QUOTE(baoz @ Nov 9 2010, 01:42 PM)
Yeah I agree on the style of winter wear in Malaysia... when you go overseas you look hideous. And you so obviously stand out as a tourist..

I'll be going to shanghai this December. No central heating. sad.gif

I'll be piling on..
T-shirt, thick vest, fleece jacket.
Jeans, scarf, gloves.
Long johns (at night)
Considering if I need boots to warm the lower part of my legs?
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I've seen girls wearing thick tops but short skirts and low cut boots at temperatures below freezing. Not sure about you but to me it just doesn't make sense rclxub.gif

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I've seen girls wearing thick tops but short skirts and low cut boots at temperatures below freezing.  Not sure about you but to me it just doesn't make sense  rclxub.gif
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Oh no definitely not short skirt. Maybe these girls are just used to the cold...

I guess I'll scout around Shanghai for boots when the need arises. Cheap. innocent.gif

Cos after that I'll be heading to Australia for my studies during autumn/winter so I guess I could recycle some of the winter wear I buy.
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 9 2010, 11:47 PM)
I've seen girls wearing thick tops but short skirts and low cut boots at temperatures below freezing.  Not sure about you but to me it just doesn't make sense  rclxub.gif
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And all indoor like shopping mall and office is heated up.


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Just to add another nice winter clothing shopping in KL

UniqGlo at Ferenheit (Ex- KL Plaza).. Suprisingly got lotsa winter cloothing..I was thinking they only games towars anime but I was wrong..Lotsa choices and more than what UT, Winter time & etc offer..

The RM299 superlight down jacket very tempting...Super light wor..& actually performed better than my thicker Down jacket i bought from UT sad.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Nov 21 2010, 12:50 PM)
Just to add another nice winter clothing shopping in KL

UniqGlo at Ferenheit (Ex- KL Plaza).. Suprisingly got lotsa winter cloothing..I was thinking they only games towars anime but I was wrong..Lotsa choices and more than what UT, Winter time & etc offer..

The RM299 superlight down jacket very tempting...Super light wor..& actually performed better than my thicker Down jacket i bought from UT  sad.gif
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What's the price range for winter clothing in UniqGlo? Is it cheaper than UT?
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Not really cheaper but the quality..& lightness...Super feather light & even the RM299 weight ~ 200gm nia..almost like normal thick Tees..And it's actually performed well after I tested it..Can feel immediate warmness..Those thicker UT/Winter Times Down jacket..Once you wear it..you have to wait few min to feel the warmness

The RM299 is the cheapest up to RM500 or probably more...They also selling /promoting thier own Thermal inner wear (Longjohn) for RM59.90...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Nov 22 2010, 12:34 PM)
Not really cheaper but the quality..& lightness...Super feather light & even the RM299 weight ~ 200gm nia..almost like normal thick Tees..And it's actually performed well after I tested it..Can feel immediate warmness..Those thicker UT/Winter Times Down jacket..Once you wear it..you have to wait few min to feel the warmness

The RM299 is the cheapest up to RM500 or probably more...They also selling /promoting thier own Thermal inner wear (Longjohn) for RM59.90...
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what if i going to UK in January..seriously i have done window shopping in Universal Travelers and Winter Time..i dont like it at all..
I like one from Zara but since im a beginner, my friend said i have to get those hideous type ( at least one to go there) then buy from there?
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Try Goin places at Bdr utama Centerpoint. Better winter clothings & cheaper.
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i went to Uniqlo in Seoul today, the price for the down jacket is almost the same but they got more selection, even the thermal wear

i recommend their HeatTech + Premium Down Jacket, too bad i bought it after getting one set from Universal Traveller


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"Branded" apparels in Seoul is not that much cheaper compared to Malaysia. At most I think only diff by RM100.

Anyway, an advise; if one wants to own a down jacket, go borrow from friend 1st then when touched down at any place for winter, go shop for winter clothing. Don't really think UT's stuffs are worth buying.
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Bought the 'bomber' jacket from FOS Subang Parade in 2008 before my trip to Tokyo in Feb (the same year). It's super cheap at RM150 and it's from Ecko(Red). I like the jacket as it's not colourful (it's dark brown with furry sides for the hood. Sleeve & hood removeable via zipper if needed).

Luckily in Tokyo at that time - they all wore the same style of jacket. Thought I was gonna be outdated. Phew. Hehe. And it kept me warm the whole time.

I will never ever go to Wintertime & UT to buy winter jacket - so ugly and expensive. Wonder where they get their stocks from.
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They got their stocks from either Koeaor China-lor...Yeah very limited & those offering >20% are ugly. Only nicer abit Down jackets but limited design sold at 10% discount during their sales..haha

Anyway for those not realy into fashion, UT/Winter Times can liao. Because from what my experience there, the average ppl also wearing cicai wan..haha..and those older generations wearing flowery winter clothing similar to those hulu-hulu places in China..You will not be out of fashion in Seoul for sure..

Check these few photos taken on type of winter clothings worn by Seoul locals...Infac those Tourists wearing more trendier than Seoul locals haha:

Myeondong area- The most trendier pasar Malam similar to Ximending in Taipei:
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MRT Scene:
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Anyway, her's my tips for those haven't experience mild to xtreme cold temperature based on my recent trip to Seoul (I experienced milder temp of ~ 10C till on 15/12 last week when temp dropped to minus 11C and the windchill of minus 20C!

-For temp higher than 5C, probably thicker jacket (feather / polyster) is OK wth probably aditional sweaters /long john. I fcheap down jacket, probably no need sweater /long John

-For Temp higher than minus 5 till 5C , down jacket (atleast 90% down) without long Johns is sufficient. You no need any wool sock to protect your leg too. However, scarf and thermal glove is important. to protect your fingers, beck & ear.

- For temp below minus 5 till -minus 20C, A good Down jacket, wth long John /sweater + good leather thermal glove and scarf is important...Otherwise your fingers & ear can freezed within minutes...as wha I expereinced haha

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Dont buy in Msia....it's expensive n not fashionable at all...u'll look like alien lor....especially if u're going to London or NYC.

Check the local weather first n if it's not that cold, turtle neck/ sweater n good jacket will do. We're in Boston now and its -4C...no need to use long john...

What to pack??
1) Turtleneck/sweater
2) Jacket with hood e.g North Face, Columbia is good...
( in US ebody wear NFace)
3) Muffler (In Msia can get RM10-15)
4) Beanie, Leather Gloves
5) Winter boots ( can buy later when u'll arrive)

6) LIP BALM is a must (Burts bee is good)
7) MOisturizer (CREAM) NOT lotion....
8 ) Vitamins, medications.....

from my experience, if u dont apply the cream, u'll suffer from dry, chapped skin as winter is very cold n dry...

hope this helps....smile.gif


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you guys think those Uniqlo down jacket can withstand the extreme weather in Europe? Travelling to soon on next weekend, but have yet to get any winter clothings ....
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Can-lah..Even those UT, Winter Times down jacket (Ensure atleast 80 to 100% down) and it can even withstand minus 10C without long john. lower than minus 10C, you probably need thermal long john dy.

The most important thing other than Down jacket is a good quality thermal glove & also scarf. Without these, be prepared to get your hand & ear freezed


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down jackets are super 80's fashion.

north face and columbia are popular in N.america including canadian region.
kathmandu is popular down south in the oceania region.

i've been wearing my jacket for the past 13 years. although expensive, (roughly bout 800 brit pounds back in 90's) its already paid for itself over the years. still wearing, still no problems in freezing sub temperatures and its definitely not down feather.

who on earth wears down feather ?

and stimix i heard u lost your plasma ? kesiannnnnn
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shhhh..

Anyway, the down jacket served me well mah..hahha..at minus 11C and windchill of minus 20C. Althought out of fashion, its only cost less than RM270 compare to those North face or spyder that cost >RM2000 each haha.. biggrin.gif BTW, those ppl in Korea or probably in beijing wearing so simple..We are more fashioneable then them biggrin.gif
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who on earth wears down feather ?
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Bought it from Marks & Spencer in 1980. Serve me well in many Cold countries! And will still use it since it is still in good condition!

Was in Shanghai, saw many shops making and repairing down feather jackets. Was told it is the best material for cold winter. Lightest weight yet THE best protection against cold and wind chill!
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Hmnnn..probably buntutwoman confused liao on the material of her spyder jacket? That >RM2000 jacket probably also made of down kua..as that's the best for winter...Well I'm not sure what's the best of the best material haha..paisehhh


Added on January 4, 2011, 8:55 ambuntutwomen..just found out your spyder also made of down what haha:

http://www.spyder.com/Spyder-201011/Park-And-Pipe/
http://www.spyder.com/Active-Mens/DOLOMITE...ACKET-3527.html

Hmnnn cheaper buying online? less than RM1000? shocking.gif

Hmnn probably new techno material kua as per this hmm.gif rclxub.gif

http://www.iskishop.com/inverness/product....IN&dept_id=3129

primaloft material ..what is this?? hmm.gif

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my spyder bought back in 90's leh


Added on January 4, 2011, 4:49 pmnot many people know about spyder and not many can afford a spyder. but i surveyed for a few years and its cheaper to buy the spyder down in NZ. got nais big big store along queenstown. always on sale.
buying it in canada or london is freaking expensive.

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 4 2011, 09:05 AM)
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Bought it from Marks & Spencer in 1980. Serve me well in many Cold countries! And will still use it since it is still in good condition!

Was in Shanghai, saw many shops making and repairing down feather jackets. Was told it is the best material for cold winter. Lightest weight yet THE best protection against cold and wind chill!
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Yeah I'm a fan of down jackets too. Light and serves its purpose well. When it's blizzarding cold out there, screw fashion.

Sure trench coats look trendy, nice and pretty but I feel they're more for autumn or early winter. Once you start getting strong winds and single-digit temperatures (and below), down jackets will protect you best.

For me one down jacket is enough I don't need any more layer other than just a shirt + jacket. Now I'm in Shanghai, average around 5-6 degrees everyday.
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QUOTE(baoz @ Jan 8 2011, 01:54 PM)
For me one down jacket is enough I don't need any more layer other than just a shirt + jacket. Now I'm in Shanghai, average around 5-6 degrees everyday.
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Err...shirt + jacket? Shouldn't that be blouse + skirt with down jacket? brows.gif
BTW holiday or work?
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i lived in IOWA..
usa, from 1983 - 2007..
winter was always fun..
first two winters, i got used to it..
so now, even 0c, i still just have sweat shirt..
dont worrry, ur body will accomodate the cold.
im now migrating to toronto canada..
just been back here for 3yrs..

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QUOTE(baoz @ Jan 8 2011, 01:54 PM)
Yeah I'm a fan of down jackets too. Light and serves its purpose well. When it's blizzarding cold out there, screw fashion.

Sure trench coats look trendy, nice and pretty but I feel they're more for autumn or early winter. Once you start getting strong winds and single-digit temperatures (and below), down jackets will protect you best.

For me one down jacket is enough I don't need any more layer other than just a shirt + jacket. Now I'm in Shanghai, average around 5-6 degrees everyday.
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trench coats are for peak winter. its to prevent your jeans or long pants from getting wet from the snowing season and slush. doh.gif
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trench coats are for peak winter. its to prevent your jeans or long pants from getting wet from the snowing season and slush.  doh.gif
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I disagree. Synthetic fibers are the best. Down jackets are not wind resistant. Problems with down jacket is that down absorbs moisture and clumps up. Also , over time, down drops to the bottom half of the jacket

QUOTE(baoz @ Jan 8 2011, 01:54 PM)
. Once you start getting strong winds and single-digit temperatures (and below), down jackets will protect you best.


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Synthetic fibre such as Primaloft? - Not cheap wor..
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If you are young, winter is fun. If age catches up with you, winter if not fun. Try shoveling Toronto's wet snow and see if it is fun. Try walking on icy pavement and roads. is it fun?? Old people don't like winter. That's why so many snowbirds(old people) headed south to escape winter


QUOTE(ravi6662 @ Jan 9 2011, 09:29 AM)
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winter was always fun..
first two winters, i got used to it..
so now, even 0c, i still just have sweat shirt..
dont worrry, ur body will accomodate the cold.
im now migrating to toronto canada..
just been back here for 3yrs..
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Added on January 11, 2011, 5:06 pmIy you don't want your pants to get wet from snow /slush, put on/wear a snow pant.


QUOTE(buntutwoman @ Jan 9 2011, 10:21 PM)
trench coats are for peak winter. its to prevent your jeans or long pants from getting wet from the snowing season and slush.  doh.gif
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Any Recommendation For Winter Wear Shopping?
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How about KL area?
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If you read much earlier post, you might have read about:

- universal travelers, Winter times, Goin Places, Uniglo, FOS & more.. smile.gif

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Ya. I Know.

Which One More Recommend.

In Term Of Value And Quality
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Uniglo is the best interm of quality but very limited design compare to the stores I saw in Seoul.

Others normally imported Koreans/ China designs but also OK. almsot similar pricing & lotsa discount esp Universal Travelers..read few pages on types of winter clothing suit diff temperature.. The chart from Winter times probably the best references
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Btw, For Uniqlo

For Me, I Feel that The Just Like A "IKEA" Product.

Got Brand/Design, But No Quality. Correct Me If Wrong.

Maybe Their Price Tag On High.
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Huh? They are the best compare wth those from UT & WT. Those from UT & WT are mostly Korean or china made.


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http://www.uniqlo.com/sg/explorer.html#/0/...g:category/d:6/

is this u refering?
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Simple but the quality is damn good..The ligghtweight down feather jacket much lighter than any sold by UT/WT 7 will not adding lotsa weight to your luggages.. And I tested it wth normal down feather from UT/ Goin places..very fast warming...those lightweight down jackets also available in Seoul Morning market (Esp namdaemun) but pricing almsot similar to Uniglo or more expensive to my suprise!!

Good buy..Travel light not heavy
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but u mention RM299 in earlier post.

now only RM169.

Need go down and check the Quality.

Izzt that u saw in last time, which cost about RM299?
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Hu so cheap..darn..Even in Korea selling at 99K won or ~ RM280...grab man if only RM169..endure it's .90% Down to withstand temp till minus 20C.
QUOTE(teckhooi @ Feb 17 2011, 11:19 PM)
but u mention RM299 in earlier post.

now only RM169.

Need go down and check the Quality.

Izzt that u saw in last time, which cost about RM299?
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With the introduction of Uniqlo, there's more trendier choice and affordable winter wear. biggrin.gif

If it's RM169 now, I think it's a very good price so grab it. Like stimix, mentioned ; it's 99k won in Korea when I was there in Dec.

Forgot to mention, it's easily packed unlike the bulky version (like a T-shirt). The only down part is, it's not water proof. So if next time, snowing and all, you can don a waterproof & windproof jacket outside ontop of that down jacket. And I would still guarantee it's not going to be that bulky as those selling in Winter Time even after wearing that 2 layer as I suggested.

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For example like what I mentioned above, something like this:
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This is Lafuma instead of Uniqlo. But obviously much more expensive. I use this because the outer layer, I can use it on my tropical trip or my outdoor trips.

Another option is Fleece + waterproof jacket.
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This sort of fleece is also available in Uniqlo and not expensive and packable also. However, how it will withstand the winter, am not sure. But wearing this (the fleece) to sleep in an aircond room is quite comfortable and comfy. biggrin.gif

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First of all, not sure if this is the right section to post instead of trends+fashion, kindly move it there.

Of course I don't expect you guys that visited winter countries to buy it there since u would probably be frozen to death before visiting the shopping mall, so for sure would buy in Malaysia first. I would just like to know what are the price range of Winter Wear(as in the huge thick jacket) that usually can be found at Winter Traveller or Winter Times? Is it really expensive at RM500 or less or more?



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if u go during snowing time, rm 500 will probabaly get you wool under shirt/pants, scarves, gloves. A good overcoat (at least knee level) will set you back rm 500 already.
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No need so expensive-lah. You can get <RM300 for a reasonable not so fashionable Down jacket at UT or winter time..Those down jacket can withstand temperature of minus 10C dy.. and wth additional long john, can withstand temp minus 20C. & more.
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is Uniqlo jacket reliable and can stand the temperature for skiing / snowboarding?
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First of all, not sure if this is the right section to post instead of trends+fashion, kindly move it there.

Of course I don't expect you guys that visited winter countries to buy it there since u would probably be frozen to death before visiting the shopping mall, so for sure would buy in Malaysia first. I would just like to know what are the price range of Winter Wear(as in the huge thick jacket) that usually can be found at Winter Traveller or Winter Times? Is it really expensive at RM500 or less or more?
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not sure if is too late to reply
but RM500 is really expensive for a winter wear
i bought some for my parents for our last winter holiday
bought it from UK, it only cost 25pound(RM125) the most for one
and is -10C when they arrived my place
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is Uniqlo jacket reliable and can stand the temperature for skiing / snowboarding?
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For skiing in the snow, it's est you wear something waterproof. I don't think the Uniqlo down jacket that we mentioned here is waterproof. I could be wrong.
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hi, i was visit to korea during Jan'11...now i wanna to let go my winter stuff :
Boots (bought in Korea)
winter shocks
winter hats,
waterproof gloves for skiing
gloves for normal winter use
longjohn
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Kindly pm me if any1 here interested.Cheers~
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How do you wash the winter clothings and long johns?

do you send it to dobi for dry cleaning? or, do you wash it at home?

and, if you just bought it, do you wash it before you travel?

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Hrm, for your winter jacket, what material?

Mine is not down feather, just normal dunno what it's called. I put washing machine n then dry accordingly.

Then put in box with those silica gel packs so nothing will grow on it.

I dun use long john coz my body can tahan cold.
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Depends on the material.
My down jacket cannot wash at home, sent for dry cleaning.
The long john made of wool I use the wool washing program that my washing machine have.
If underwear I wash before using them cos you donno if the last person who tried it out have STD.
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Usually send for dry cleaning, then sun it under the sun andden back it goes into the cupboard.

When I want to use it for my upcoming trip, I'll take it out and sun it, before using it.

As for long john, depends on what material. If it's just cotton then just dump into washing machine. I don't really wear long johns, I just wear tights under my jeans. Lol.
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Any new clothing should be washed before you wear it. Despite it being new, it may still contain residual chemicals from the factory that can react with your skin. And you don't know who has handled and wore it...;P

Care instruction is usually attached to good clothing. You should follow that so that your clothing lasts.




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Hi guys, I am making a trip to Japan coming winter and part of my trip include going to Nikko which will be filled with snow. As this is my first time seeing snow, I didn't really know what to wear especially for shoe. I have no intention to bring along an extra pair of boots just for the snow as it will make my luggage heavier.

My Quesrtion here, is snow boot a necessity?
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You need a pair of waterproofed shoes like a Timberland, ACG etc. Regular sneakers will get all wet from the snow and soon your socks will be all wet too. Similarly, if you are planning to throw snow around, your outerwear should be able to dry off the water from the snow and not retain water.
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QUOTE(kookaaq @ Aug 16 2011, 07:18 PM)
Hi guys, I am making a trip to Japan coming winter and part of my trip include going to Nikko which will be filled with snow. As this is my first time seeing snow, I didn't really know what to wear especially for shoe. I have no intention to bring along an extra pair of boots just for the snow as it will make my luggage heavier.

My Quesrtion here, is snow boot a necessity?
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You can actually get some kind of special rain waterproof cover for your shoes if not mistaken if you do not wish to waste your money on a pair of snow boots.

Something like this:

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/4...oot-Covers.aspx

Just make sure you wear insulated socks.
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QUOTE(kookaaq @ Aug 16 2011, 07:18 PM)
Hi guys, I am making a trip to Japan coming winter and part of my trip include going to Nikko which will be filled with snow. As this is my first time seeing snow, I didn't really know what to wear especially for shoe. I have no intention to bring along an extra pair of boots just for the snow as it will make my luggage heavier.

My Quesrtion here, is snow boot a necessity?
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The main concern should be waterproof shoes and shoes that gives u a good grip. Try to be careful not to slip on icy surface.
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By the way, those safety shoe & tracking shoe HARD rubber sole is actually abit useless too althgough better than nothing.. After experiencing few slips at Nami Island icy soil last Dec, I think the best sole is those gripping soft sole instead of those super hard rubber sole used in out rain forest..Icy surface probably needs soft rubber wth great grip..not hard rubber sole...hehe my personal view.
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Has anyone ever bought thermal wear from Winter Time, UT or Jusco? Are they sufficient to sustain winter coldness?
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Has anyone ever bought thermal wear from Winter Time, UT or Jusco?  Are they sufficient to sustain winter coldness?
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I've never worn thermal wear before but if the place that you plan to go is windy, then I suggest you should get a really good winter jacket.

If the place is not as windy, then you wouldn't feel that cold.
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Hi All,

I'm going to Alberta for a business trip next week. I'm currently browsing through winter clothing but not sure if the things that I buy here can sustain me in Alberta.

The average temperature over there will be between -10 until -25.

I've checked out Timberland, Uniqlo, Topman, Zara. All are fairly expensive and I'm not sure if it's worth spending that much of money.

Went to Kok Kong today and they claim that their products are able to withstand up to -30 Celcius and asked me to get the following
1. Down jacket
2. Sweater
3. Thermal wear.

These 3 things should be able to sustain me, of course with gloves, boots, etc.

I would like to know anyone of you here have experience buying from this shop before as most of their stuffs are made in China and I'm not sure if the quality is good enough. Please advice!
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QUOTE(terence999 @ Nov 26 2011, 04:50 PM)
Hi All,

I'm going to Alberta for a business trip next week. I'm currently browsing through winter clothing but not sure if the things that I buy here can sustain me in Alberta.

The average temperature over there will be between -10 until -25.

I've checked out Timberland, Uniqlo, Topman, Zara. All are fairly expensive and I'm not sure if it's worth spending that much of money.

Went to Kok Kong today and they claim that their products are able to withstand up to -30 Celcius and asked me to get the following
1. Down jacket
2. Sweater
3. Thermal wear.

These 3 things should be able to sustain me, of course with gloves, boots, etc.

I would like to know anyone of you here have experience buying from this shop before as most of their stuffs are made in China and I'm not sure if the quality is good enough. Please advice!
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china also have some snow...
so those stuff made in china should be working fine...
last time i purchase my jaket from kamdar...
serve me well for 4 years living in hokkaido japan... tongue.gif

but i do suggest to buy those winter jacket buy there...
it's more cheaper...and their product will always works at their weather climate....

for me the basic cloth i need in winter
-long john (basicly i only wear those pants inside and a jeans outside)
-sock (a lot of clean&dry sock)
-sweater@winter jacket
-waterproof glove and shoes
-mufflar (to protect your neck & mouth from the coolness)
-snowcap (to protect your ear from freazing)


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I don't have anything here and I'll be going there wor. Thus I need to know whether things in Kok Kong is OK. Not Kamdar.
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I think u already posted similar query in Kopitiam Q&A and I did replied there too.
For minus 25C, don't go for cheap winter clothing - Down jacket is very important for sure & so do sweater, glove, scarf & even long john

Ensure you're getting a good quality down jacket wth atleast 90% doqn. Uniglo superlight RM299 down jackte actually very good already but I dun think can withstand below -20..Go for Uniglo ~ RM449 series.. BTW, Even you goto Uniglo Seoul/Beijing the price is almost the same wth KL. so it's that price already for good quality down. You can get dirt cheap down as well esp those China made but whether it's genuine down is abit ???.
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Not that cold lah. Last week temp was in the minus 20s for daytime high and nighttime low. The temp has since climb above 0 degree.for the last 3 days Weather forecast for Edmonton and Calgary will be above zero for daytime and in the minus single digit for night time. So no need to show up dressing like the Michelin man or Pillsbury doughboy
To keep warm , the trick is layering.Just wear a sweater and a jacket and that will keep your body warm.As for the legs, wear a thick cotton pajama trouser and then your trouser.The trap air acts as insulator. Bear in mind, Alberta has cold dry air while in Vancouver it is cold and humid 10 deg c in vancouver you will be shivering. 10 dgree in Alberta you wont be shivering
Got time you can do your winter clothing shopping in either Rdmonton or Calgary. Go to Marks Work warehouse.(www.marks.com) Their winter clothings are design for up to minus 40C Exchange rate is 3 ringgit to 1Can. Not sure you consider 4600 ringgit expensive


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Hi All,

I'm going to Alberta for a business trip next week. I'm currently browsing through winter clothing but not sure if the things that I buy here can sustain me in Alberta.

The average temperature over there will be between -10 until -25.

I've checked out Timberland, Uniqlo, Topman, Zara. All are fairly expensive and I'm not sure if it's worth spending that much of money.

Went to Kok Kong today and they claim that their products are able to withstand up to -30 Celcius and asked me to get the following
1. Down jacket
2. Sweater
3. Thermal wear.

These 3 things should be able to sustain me, of course with gloves, boots, etc.

I would like to know anyone of you here have experience buying from this shop before as most of their stuffs are made in China and I'm not sure if the quality is good enough. Please advice!
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I'Ll be going to fort McMurtry, which is way cooler than Edmonton. Thanks for the advice but I do need to get something here prior to getting the rest of the stuffs there. First time going to an unknown place, that's why a bit worried. No one bought from kok kong before?
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Haven't been to Kok kong. Anyway, if it's specilist in winter wear, just ask for the staff to recommend you based on the temperature lor..
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Relax lah. Check the weather network (www.theweathernetwork.com). Temp is still in the minus single digit. The 5 days forecast is quite accurate
When you said biz trip to Alberta, the first 2 cities came to my mind...either Edmonton or Calgary. Calgary being Alberta's corporate HQ city while Edmonton being the oil service city and the gateway to north. Fort Mac is the heart of Alberta's massive massive oilsands industry. Anything it needs has to go thru Edmonton. Seen with my own eyes where massive oversize equipments that can only be transported during winter months where the roads are frozen hard enough to support the weight and the trucks only travel at a speed of 5 to 10 kmh



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I'Ll be going to fort McMurtry, which is way cooler than Edmonton. Thanks for the advice but I do need to get something here prior to getting the rest of the stuffs there. First time going to an unknown place, that's why a bit worried. No one bought from kok kong before?
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If you're actively walking, ducking in and out of sheltered or heated places don't wear too much. You only need a lot of stuff if out a long time in open windy streets or if you're standing still in the open. Many times in mid-winter I go out in thick down coat, T-shirt, jeans, normal underwear, socks, sneakers -- just like in KL, except the coat. On the train or shopping indoors, I have to open my coat to let out the steam. If your coat has a hood, no need for scarf, hat, ear-muffs.

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Personal experience, I tried travel for all 's Merino wool thermal wear. Not itchy and smooth on skin.slightly expensive but it's worth it.
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for the ladies... anyone here ever wear skirt during autumn/winter? how thick will your tights be if u were wearing one? wanna try wearing sheer tights during winter... haha.
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for the ladies... anyone here ever wear skirt during autumn/winter? how thick will your tights be if u were wearing one? wanna try wearing sheer tights during winter... haha.
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I always always wear skirt during winter trips. I've tried medium and thick leggings before. Thick one for me is the one i got from MNG. The medium one is half the thickness of MNG ones. For me, the medium one - cannot really tahan much of the cold if it's 5c and below but at least it's doable. The thick ones - no prob at all.

Sheer tights, if your tights have those 'keep warm' material in it, then why not but don't say we never advise you to bring/wear proper clothing. Anything below 8c - you'd have to be able to keep yourself warm coz you're out the whole day and what not.
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owh, thanks for the fast reply. saw some girls wearing sheer tights with short skirt during winter but dunno how does it feel, so tot of trying it.
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Go ahead and try. u will never know till u try it. in europe it is quite common to see girls dress like dat.
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In Tokyo..common scene too..but I suspect the panty hoses or legging probably using a kind of heat-tech like those by Uniglo..
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i search regarding the winter wear realize it has no relevant thread therefore i start up this thread, if there is a similar thread started, mod pls help me merge or close it (pls provide me the relevant thread)

I going to beijing + harbin by this year end with my wive, prolly target the harbin ice & snow world.... climate will probably go down to -30c during midnight, even afternoon still -10

it is took her alot of courage to nod her head for going such place, even she said cameron is cold
to protect her, i wanna get heated gloves for her, since she already got winter jacket

and the meantime we also discuss about winter wear like the boots, long john, winter jacket etc



any good recommend heated gloves? and advise on winter wear?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heated-Gloves-Rech...=item1e708eb020

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nordic-Gear-Batter...=item27ba1a6c95


can i get from taobao? since the above items prolly are MIC

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http://www.llbean.com/
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http://www.patagonia.com/us/sports/snow

if possible spend a lil more, makes hell lotsa diff

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imo since u going to the extreme i guess? spend some money on those reliable winter clothing..dun get from taobao lah.later kenot keep u warm susah.. get a decent one u'll need it in future also..if take care properly can use up to years..
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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ Aug 22 2012, 10:03 PM)
I going to beijing + harbin by this year end with my wive, prolly target the harbin ice & snow world.... climate will probably go down to -30c during midnight, even afternoon still -10

it is took her alot of courage to nod her head for going such place, even she said cameron is cold
to protect her, i wanna get heated gloves for her, since she already got winter jacket

Beijing and Harbin during that time is seriously cold.

For the body you may need 3-4 good layers for example a (1) thermal underwear, (2) long sleeve fleece shirt, (3) another long sleeve jumper/sweater and (4) winter jacket. Even your winter jacket need a good one like a thick down jacket - this can be expensive since good down jackets are not cheap. If you don't want to buy this, ask your tour company if can rent in Harbin.

For legs you'll also need long johns and probably insulated pants.

Thick hats and beanies for the head and of course thick gloves for the hands.
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I disagree. Synthetic fibers are the best. Down jackets are not wind resistant. Problems with down jacket is that down absorbs moisture and clumps up. Also , over time, down drops to the bottom  half of the jacket
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The main advantage of synthetic fibres is only that it doesn't absorb as much moisture as down. In terms of heat retention, high quality down insulates better. You can check the clo values to see the difference.

As for wind resistance, all depends on the shell fabric. You can get down jackets with wind resistance.

Down does not necessarily drop to the bottom of the jacket. The jacket has got baffles and you just need to fluff the jacket once in a while.
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QUOTE(stimix @ Nov 26 2011, 07:58 PM)
Ensure you're getting a good quality down jacket wth atleast 90% doqn. Uniglo superlight RM299 down jackte actually very good already but I dun think can withstand below -20..Go for Uniglo ~ RM449 series.. BTW, Even you goto Uniglo Seoul/Beijing the price is almost the same wth KL. so it's that price already for good quality down. You can get dirt cheap down as well esp those China made but whether it's genuine down is abit ???.
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When it comes to down, looking at the down % doesn't tell you the full picture because you don't know the quality of the down. It is better to know the down fill power (if you look at the well known brands from the west they quote fill power). Unfortunately, most of the China made or locally available down jackets do not give you the fill power info.

Another thing to know is the down fill weight, i.e. how much down in the jacket. That is another factor which influences how warm it will be. The Uniglo superlight down jacket does use high fill power down, but fill weight is low (hence it is a superlight jacket).
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Anyone wear converse shoes during winter before? TT
I don't know what shoes I should wear.
I m goin to Seoul on January.. Isit very cold?
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Anyone wear converse shoes during winter before? TT
I don't know what shoes I should wear.
I m goin to Seoul on January.. Isit very cold?
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I wear my adidas sneakers (similar to converse sneakers). But the insides of my shoes have faux fur. It does feel abit cold but i think if it's normal one, it might be a little cold and maybe will get a little bit wet at your toes. Do bring a pair of extra socks when you're out. Dry them out on the heated floor overnight and you'll be good to go! But when you walk around, you'll create a warm flow already, so dun worry.

Seoul is EXTREMELY cold. It's so much colder than Tokyo if you compare these 2 places. However, it's not as dry as Tokyo winter. Altho you still need heavy creams to apply on your body to prevent skin from getting too dry or skin splitting (this is extremely painful).
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Greetings,

I need advise from all the shifus in here.

I am heading to Seoul nx february, 18th.

I checked on the foreceasted wweather, stated 5 to -5 celcius.

May i know for a male, wht shld i take go there? i knw x much since this is the 1st time im flying alone for busienss trip.

None of my colleagues been there. I need advise on what clothes to wear from head to tail, and what to cary go there.

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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Aug 23 2012, 11:42 AM)
Greetings,

I need advise from all the shifus in here.

I am heading to Seoul nx february, 18th.

I checked on the foreceasted wweather, stated 5 to -5 celcius.

May i know for a male, wht shld i take go there? i knw x much since this is the 1st time im flying alone for busienss trip.

None of my colleagues been there. I need advise on what clothes to wear from head to tail, and what to cary go there.

saya menyusun jari, mintak tolong~!
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I went during mid Dec 2011. and forcast mentioned ~ 5 to -5C.. Well the thruth is, that's the avg temp bcos certain hours of teh days & even diff days, temperature can go kuku esp when the strong wind starts blowing... There was one day temperature dropped to minus 15C and damn... so cold even wth my full gear...Although end of Feb should be ~ ealrly Dec, but sometime..the temp might drop further..
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QUOTE(stimix @ Aug 23 2012, 06:05 PM)
I went during mid Dec 2011. and forcast mentioned ~ 5 to -5C.. Well the thruth is, that's the avg temp bcos certain hours of teh days & even diff days, temperature can go kuku esp when the strong wind starts blowing... There was one day temperature dropped to minus 15C and damn... so cold even wth my full gear...Although end of Feb should be ~ ealrly Dec, but sometime..the temp might drop further..
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Thanks Stimix.

Mind to gv me suggestion on the suits i should take there? APologize for my noobs. Budak kg la saya
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Thanks Stimix.

Mind to gv me suggestion on the suits i should take there? APologize for my noobs. Budak kg la saya
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January will be the coldest month of the year for any northern countries which has winter.

Sometimes the forecast is just forecast, you should really see last year january's weather. It shouldn't defer more than 5c IMO unless of course the weather has gone nuts.

I don't know for you but for me (i'm a gal who can tahan cold weather but my skin will be super super dry). Get a good down feather/synthetic bomber jacket. You can get one from Uniqlo - stylo and not too expensive, down feather and best of all super light and can lipat until very compact). You also need long sleeve shirts (t-shirt which is long sleeved) and also jumper if you want. Normal jeans/work pants will be ok. Usually only upper body can't tahan that cold of a weather.

I also suggest you to bring more socks coz, even tho it's cold and you're wearing leather/canvas shoes, your socks at the toe part will be a little wet - dunno why.... but you can let it dry overnight if you don't want to bring too many. Also to sleep, you should wear long pants + jumper with hoodie incase, your blanket is not warm enough. Altho i do warn that alot of the mattresses in seoul are electrical - can heat up, you might get heat bumps (like pimples but not really) if you sleep on that warm of surface. It happened to me and it only went away after 3 weeks. But hor, for me, i sweat when i sleep with winter blankets + heated mattress. Alot of the time i sleep without blankets even in winter if it's moderately heated.

Hope this helps!
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wat about heated glove? anyone use before? or other glove experience at climate -30
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wat about heated glove? anyone use before? or other glove experience at climate -30
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There is this heated pack hand warmer thingy that you put in the pockets and hold onto it when your hands feel cold. I don't know where to get this in Malaysia though.
Found out about this when I was in Germany few years back, saw all the matsalehs not wearing gloves while my hands and ears were freezing so we asked them how can they go without glove. Then he showed us that hand warmer pack in his pocket which explains why their hands always in the pocket. tongue.gif

Holding onto it with bare hands may be too hot so wearing glove and holding onto it will be perfect. And gloves are actually really annoying sometimes. IMO, you can't do anything properly with gloves on.
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QUOTE(Shazzac @ Aug 23 2012, 11:28 AM)
I wear my adidas sneakers (similar to converse sneakers). But the insides of my shoes have faux fur. It does feel abit cold but i think if it's normal one, it might be a little cold and maybe will get a little bit wet at your toes. Do bring a pair of extra socks when you're out. Dry them out on the heated floor overnight and you'll be good to go! But when you walk around, you'll create a warm flow already, so dun worry.

Seoul is EXTREMELY cold. It's so much colder than Tokyo if you compare these 2 places. However, it's not as dry as Tokyo winter. Altho you still need heavy creams to apply on your body to prevent skin from getting too dry or skin splitting (this is extremely painful).
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Wow thanks for ur detailed info! Then I better bring extra socks cry.gif
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Those are called heat packs. Not too common here though. Therapy, for winter etc etc. There are a lot of brands, made from different countries. Few people that I know used to use them but not me. Not too useful for me lol.

Socks are very important. There are those types where you won't feel tired/cold even if you walked for the whole day. smile.gif Bring spares all the time.
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heat packs can get from Daiso, rm5 inside got 1 pack which can last for 4,8 or 12hours. but i more prefer battery-operated heated gloves, but being research on the few from ebay, max can only last 2-3hours which i dun think it is sufficient
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However, i think heat packs never work for me. I'd rather keep my hands (with gloves) in my bomber jacket's pocket. Now that's what I call warm hands. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jam_lennon @ Aug 24 2012, 04:20 PM)
heat packs can get from Daiso, rm5 inside got 1 pack which can last for 4,8 or 12hours. but i more prefer battery-operated heated gloves, but being research on the few from ebay, max can only last 2-3hours which i dun think it is sufficient
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Yea, I've seen before in Daiso and actually bought before but it was hopeless and useless. But the ones I saw overseas were of pretty good quality and lasted much longer than Daiso's. Well, can't expect much for RM5.

Haven't seen anyone selling battery operated gloves in Malaysia. I would think it's gonna be quite big and bulky to put it on.
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Clothing Guide

The key to winter dressing is layering. Typically you will have 3-4 layers, which consists of:

A) Base layer or thermal underwear

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This is the layer next to your skin. The top can be short sleeve or long sleeve (warmer).

Material can be synthetic (e.g. polyester, polypropylene) or natural like wool. There may be also different thicknesses depending on brand or manufacturer (e.g. some classify as lightweight, midweight, heavyweight).

B) Mid layer

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The next layer can be a shirt or jumper/sweater, depending on the look you want. If you are going for business meeting then obviously it would be a shirt. Otherwise for just going out, can be jumper/sweater. Or you can add a vest on top of your shirt:

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Again, material can be synthetic or natural and different thicknesses are available. For casual wear I find fleece tops to be comfortable and warm.

C) Outer layer

This is your main insulation layer. If you want the best, go for a down jacket:

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This is a jacket filled with combination of feathers and down, so it will be puffy and traps heat. When you buy, check the label to see what is the percentage of feather vs down, e.g. 50% feather / 50% down. The more down the warmer (since down is higher grade), but also more expensive. In overseas they use a more accurate rating called fill power, e.g. 500 fill power is average quality, 600+ is better, 700+ is premium and 800+ is super premium - but jackets sold locally rarely use fill power rating. If you want cheaper then go for synthetic fill instead of down. It won't be as warm, but can still work for you.

If it's not bitterly cold, can also use a fleece jacket:

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Note fleece is usually not windproof, unless you get the type with a wind resistant layer.

Of course a down jacket isn't formal enough for business meetings. So for meetings you might want to choose a coat:

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For winter you'll need a heavier coat, normally made of wool. However, these can be expensive also.

D) Accessories

Don't forget things like wearing a scarf, gloves and beanie/hat to also keep you warm.

Hope this gives some basic ideas to people about winter dressing. Obviously there are many different types and combinations for you to mix and match.

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primaloft material ..what is this??  hmm.gif

Primaloft is a synthetic insulation material: http://www.primaloft.com/en/performance/co...yers-guide.html

Among the different types, Primaloft One is the warmest, but even so it is only equivalent to average grade down (500+ fill power). The higher grade down will be warmer even than Primaloft One.
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Oh since this forum post is about winter wear, maybe I can tumpang here. Perhaps, someone can give me some advise. I am going to Japan at the end of November until early December. The average temperature is 12 (the highest) to 2 (the lowest). As I haven't been to a winter country before so I hope someone u can give me some advise on the 'fashion' ...haha. How many layers should I wear ? Is winter jacket , long john, glove , or ear muffer neccessary ? Yeah, I will be out walking and exploring the places. More outdoor than indoor. Thanks.
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I planned to have a 6 weeks trip to proceed my project at Taiwan.

May I have any advice out there regarding winter. personally, I always spend my time in aircond room.

I know it is different, because night time would be different temperature as well.

As I was told by my project manager would be around 16c to 20c.


I would like to have suggestion on:-

clothing.

food.

drinks.

medical emergency. (what to bring)



this is my first time to go for a winter situation laugh.gif
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There's a thread on winter wear and preparations:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=972657&hl=

Food & drinks - basically what you can get. People tend to eat and pee more when weather is cold.

For me, most important is to stay warm and also apply lots of lotion as the skin can get very dry and crack up during winter.

But for 16-20 degrees, it's not that cold, like cameron highlands like that. Nothing much to prepare imo. Night time you'll most likely be in a heated room anyway.

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QUOTE(eligible @ Nov 28 2012, 05:56 PM)
I planned to have a 6 weeks trip to proceed my project at Taiwan.

May I have any advice out there regarding winter. personally, I always spend my time in aircond room.

I know it is different, because night time would be different temperature as well.

As I was told by my project manager would be around 16c to 20c.
I would like to have suggestion on:-

clothing.

this is my first time to go for a winter situation laugh.gif
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Winter in Taiwan is very mild-lah.. If you can survive night time in Cameron Highland, You can survive Taiwan haha. Sweater will do.. Thick one preferable bcos temp during Jan can drop to 10C. BTW, as a guidelein, CH night temp is ~15C and day time from 19C-24C.
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Winter in Taiwan is very mild-lah.. If you can survive night time in Cameron Highland, You can survive Taiwan haha. Sweater will do.. Thick one preferable bcos temp during Jan can drop to 10C. BTW, as a guidelein, CH night temp is ~15C and day time from 19C-24C.
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I bought ticket to Shen Zhen China end of this month.
So, I research about the weather there. It is around 12°C-14°C
This is an extreme value for Malaysian. So I was wondering what should I wear during that temperature

I search on Baidu. And some people said that, they are wearing 3 layers of clothes.
For top : An inner layer + normal t-shirt + a jacket
For bottom : Only jeans will do.

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like dis enough??

So, any one gone there before in the end of the year?
Is this clothing sufficient?

Maybe I can bring some vitamins or what what in case I cannot survive in that temperature if I'm sick?

A single comment/reply helps.
Appreciate that. biggrin.gif
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I will trf this to winter clothing soon.. No Thick sweater will do.. It's not extreme. If extreme, it's below negative 5C
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QUOTE(dasherzx @ Dec 5 2012, 02:27 AM)
I bought ticket to Shen Zhen China end of this month.
So, I research about the weather there. It is around 12°C-14°C
This is an extreme value for Malaysian. So I was wondering what should I wear during that temperature

I search on Baidu. And some people said that, they are wearing 3 layers of clothes.
For top : An inner layer + normal t-shirt + a jacket
For bottom : Only jeans will do.
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I looked up the weather in Shenzhen, it's about right ie. 12-14C. A rainy evening in Genting is around 14-15C so drive up there to see what it's like. To me it's not that cold and you'll get used to it very quickly. If there's no wind then even a sweater might be ok, if there's wind then a jacket and something to cover the head would help.

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12-14c just normal jacket will do.

real protection is only need when it goes under 0c. every dec i will have to come to stockholm and the start of winter is always unpredictable. last sunday it was -15c, my face was almost frozen when doing a stroll at the old town, gamla stan. this weekend it is like 0c to -1c, so it is still very cozy with the thick winter wear.

thick gloves is also very important. nothing is worse than feeling cold in your finger. how thick is enough? scoop up some snow with the glove, if you dont feel the cold, then it is thick enough, if you can feel the cold, then it is not thick enough.

3 layers of clothing is needed below 0c, one thick jacket for outdoor use, one normal jacket for indoor use, and one t-shirt inside. i always wear 4 layer though. 2 layers at the arms/legs, 4 layer in torso, neck protector/scarf, hat/ear muff, and suitable boots that wont slide easily on ice.

whether you are dressed up enough or not, easiest is to stand beside the sea, when there are cold wind blowing, if you feel cold, it means your clothing is not enough, time to go back and change.


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Hey guys, i will be going to hanoi in mid/ end jan and also sapa highland. Checked the weather in sapa may drop till 5 celcius. With rains perhaps.

Thought of buying uniqlo heat tech as inner layer, then will either bring a uniqlo fleece jacket as mid if needed. Then outer at first thought of buying uniqlo down jacket ( the one which is lightweight and can be packed nicely) but looked rather fragile to me to go trekking and wont stand the rains too.

Any recommendation what to get as outer layer which is both water resistant, windproof and can withstand cold. Plus point is it is easy to keep too as im a backpacker and prefer lightweight tongue.gif

Best to wear 2 layers only or else ended up too bulky. Which is inner with heat tech plus outer.

Understand inner must be really body fit right?

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Just want to know whether Uniqlo's ultra slim jacket and my long john cn actuallY tahan seoul's winter in jan? Quite worry now
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Just want to know whether Uniqlo's ultra slim jacket and my long john cn actuallY tahan seoul's winter in jan? Quite worry now
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Just came back from Shanghai this Morning and average temp during my journey from -3C to 7C. However most of the time, I'm only experienced temp from zero till 7C.. And I'm using the ultra light uniqlo down jacket.. Just superb with just a layer of thin cotton sweater & t-shirt.. But for Seoul.. Diff story.. In addition to Long John, you probably need another layer of thick sweater (read Kon's description earlier).. Seoul should be similar to Stockhome.
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For gloves, I bought a pair of 3m thinsulate gloves while in stockholm earlier, selling only for RM 40.
I don't know if it is cheap or expensive but RM 40 in stockholm is real cheap.
I think it works really good, planning to bring it to Hokkaido later next year.
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For gloves, I bought a pair of 3m thinsulate gloves while in stockholm earlier, selling only for RM 40.
I don't know if it is cheap or expensive but RM 40 in stockholm is real cheap.
I think it works really good, planning to bring it to Hokkaido later next year.
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Dirt cheap.. Even my fingers exposed thick cotton.wool that I got from Tokyo already cost me >RM60
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QUOTE(stimix @ Dec 24 2012, 12:33 PM)
Dirt cheap.. Even my fingers exposed thick cotton.wool that I got from Tokyo already cost me >RM60
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it was just 70 gram 3m thinsulate, probably this is the cheaper range.
not that thick but it is already very comfy for me, can pick up snow on the street without feeling cold in the fingers/hand.

lol, i can start a bulk purchase next year when I go se.

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Hey guys, i will be going to hanoi in mid/ end jan and also sapa highland. Checked the weather in sapa may drop till 5 celcius. With rains perhaps.

Thought of buying uniqlo heat tech as inner layer, then will either bring a uniqlo fleece jacket as mid if needed. Then outer at first thought of buying uniqlo down jacket ( the one which is lightweight and can be packed nicely) but looked rather fragile to me to go trekking and wont stand the rains too.

Any recommendation what to get as outer layer which is both water resistant, windproof and can withstand cold. Plus point is it is easy to keep too as im a backpacker and prefer lightweight tongue.gif

Best to wear 2 layers only or else ended up too bulky. Which is inner with heat tech plus outer.

Understand inner must be really body fit right?

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Well. Don't worry about 5 Celsius. Just wear a thick jacket ( Most jacket is waterproof ) and a layer of sweater within. If u really afraid of Cold but want lightweight, wear a thin layer of longjohn. The range between 0-10 Celsius. This will ave u from another layer of clothes.
In Russia here, we wear shorts n tshirt in 5 celsius,
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I learnt a lot of tips and new words (layering, down, north face, fleece jacket muffel etc etc) from this thread but still a bit clueless about what to wear. It is a short business cum travel trip, so not planning to invest heavily on warm clothings.

Never experience winter before but will be traveling to Seoul 23-27 Nov. Checked last year weather this time was about -2 to 7 C, average 4-5 C. Will be going to Mt. Sorak & Nami Island. Wondering if long-sleeve cotton shirt + thin sweater + fleece jacket (http://www.uniqlo.com/en/catalog/012.html) + jeans + sports shoes/ socks + scarf + glove is enough for outdoor?

This is how I can best describe my cold tolerance:- My cold tolerance is not so good, especially cold hands/ feet. I can stand the cold in Cameron Highlands Tanah Rata out in the open area (there is a padang near Century Pines Hotel), wearing normal T-shirt + cargo pants + sandal at mid night for 2+ hours. It was after rain as the grasses were still wet.

Any advice for late autumn wear in Seoul?

I used to hear my uncle in New Zealand mentioned 'wind breaker', is it similar to down? parka?

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No... Wind breaker is a light jacket that is designed to resist wind penetrating thru . It can also be used as a rain(light) jacket



QUOTE(cactuscch @ Jul 3 2013, 09:02 PM)

I used to hear my uncle in New Zealand mentioned 'wind breaker', is it similar to down? parka?
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Ill be goin to NZ beginning Sept, like landing on the 1st of Sept..

anyway, the temps there would vary depending on my location. Around queenstown the historical chart said that it should be between 3 to 13... currently its roughly -5 to 8...

so im guessing i should get a downcoat, but ive been to UT, WinterTime and Metrojaya, so far ive only found 1 down coat i liked, but its friggin expensive man, its like RM600-700!!!!!

So any ideas of where else i can look for it??? Anyone tried PLal's before? the one at jalan gasing..
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Ill be goin to NZ beginning Sept, like landing on the 1st of Sept..

anyway, the temps there would vary depending on my location. Around queenstown the historical chart said that it should be between 3 to 13... currently its roughly -5 to 8...

so im guessing i should get a downcoat, but ive been to UT, WinterTime and Metrojaya, so far ive only found 1 down coat i liked, but its friggin expensive man, its like RM600-700!!!!!

So any ideas of where else i can look for it??? Anyone tried PLal's before? the one at jalan gasing..
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Try uniqlo. Anyway, 3-13 not necessary need down. few layering of thick sweater, fleece might helps.
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Try uniqlo. Anyway, 3-13 not necessary need down. few layering of thick sweater, fleece might helps.
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actually i might have considered a few layers, but the problem is that in jan, i will be going to France and probably travelling to a few of its neighbouring countries, and i heard that Jan is the peak of their winter, so i temps might reach sub zero, so i guess might as well get a down coat and save the trouble.

but u think for 3 to 13 we wont need a down coat??? even with wind chill factors?

btw, i dont think uniqlo has their winter down jackets now, i tried going there a few months ago, and they were no longer selling winter clothing... i guess their stock is based on the season in Japan.

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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 7 2013, 03:44 AM)
actually i might have considered a few layers, but the problem is that in jan, i will be going to France and probably travelling to a few of its neighbouring countries, and i heard that Jan is the peak of their winter, so i temps might reach sub zero, so i guess might as well get a down coat and save the trouble.

but u think for 3 to 13 we wont need a down coat??? even with wind chill factors?

btw, i dont think uniqlo has their winter down jackets now, i tried going there a few months ago, and they were no longer selling winter clothing... i guess their stock is based on the season in Japan.
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Below 5 probably but with layering, still ok. Try checking few luggage shops such as those in the curve, MV & IOU mall. I saw they do carry down jackets too and at the ridiculous 50-70% discount for outdated downs. Mostly from rm 180 to rm400
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Below 5 probably but with layering, still ok. Try checking few luggage shops such as those in the curve, MV & IOU mall. I saw they do carry down jackets too and at the ridiculous 50-70% discount for outdated downs. Mostly from rm 180 to rm400
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Actually i have seen some down jackets which are reasonably priced, but theyre so damn hideous... its like as if the winter clothing shops here only sell leftover and unwanted jackets from overseas.

but i guess i dont really have much of a choice tho.

How i wish i could get my hands on the Uniqlo one that u have mentioned, sounds good, especially for travelling.

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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 7 2013, 10:45 AM)
Actually i have seen some down jackets which are reasonably priced, but theyre so damn hideous... its like as if the winter clothing shops here only sell leftover and unwanted jackets from overseas.

but i guess i dont really have much of a choice tho.

How i wish i could get my hands on the Uniqlo one that u have mentioned, sounds good, especially for travelling.
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Honestly, Uniqlo down jacket also looks cheap actually. Too simple. The only thing I like- Super lightweight and works well.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jul 7 2013, 12:52 PM)
Honestly, Uniqlo down jacket also looks cheap actually. Too simple. The only thing I like- Super lightweight and works well.. biggrin.gif
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actually simple is good, i like simple, its the super colourful and ones with weird designs that i find to be ugly..

anyhow, i will try hunting around, maybe try PLal's as well.
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Anyone bought their winter wear at Kok Kong?
http://www.kokkong.com
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QUOTE(lost123 @ Jul 7 2013, 03:44 AM)
but u think for 3 to 13 we wont need a down coat??? even with wind chill factors?

There are different thickness for down coats, all depends on the environment you'll be using it in.

For 3-13 C, those ultra light down clothing from Uniqlo is ok. See: http://www.uniqlo.com/my/product/men/tops/down
The ultra light down jacket is only RM249.90
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Temperature can be misleading.. When I was studying in UK, I ended up running around with wearing shorts and slippers during winter.

During summer, even 8C can make you miserable..

The coldest place I been to is around -20C, I probably wore more clothes than I could ever recall in my life..

Essential = good hat (beanie is really good, look for ski-equipment)
Glove = Good glove is a must (I got Berghaus brand, cost 10+pounds)
Jacket = windproof minimum, waterproof recommended, if it's fleeced inside, it can turned too bulky
Trousers = I usually don't bother much about it (get a ski trouser if you really want, since it's wind / water proved)
Inner later = I light tights, but some people hate it

Most important layer to keep you warm/
A good fleece (pants and top), if you can afford try to get the north face polartech fleece, they are really light, comfy and warm
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Hi anyone could recomend where to buy winter Cloth.. Not prefer universal traveler coz too expensive..
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1) happy birthday
2) which country you going?
3) just noticed you are not in KL else will recommend kok kong which is doing clearance sale now

if you can wait then http://www.kathmandu.co.nz/
study the size chart!
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1) happy birthday
2) which country you going?
3) just noticed you are not in KL else will recommend kok kong which is doing clearance sale now

if you can wait then http://www.kathmandu.co.nz/
study the size chart!
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tqvm... going to holland and belgium nx months.. temp around 11-18 degree.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sukhri @ Jul 25 2014, 11:35 AM)
tqvm... going to holland and belgium nx months.. temp around 11-18 degree.. smile.gif
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buy from uniqlo good enough liao.. not really cold la..

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tqvm... going to holland and belgium nx months.. temp around 11-18 degree.. smile.gif
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Nxt Mth is still summer-lah..Temp is not what you mentioned.. Abg 18C-24C similar to Cameron Highland doh.gif

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airpor...y.html#calendar

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I'll going to UK in autumn and winter. Are windbreaker, undershirts, jeans, sport shoes enough to keep me warm in autumn? Decide to buy only jacket, sweater, hat and gloves in UK when in winter. Do I need to buy boots? By the way, is buying winter clothes there is more cheaper compared to Malaysia? Hopefully anyone can resolve my doubts. Thank
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Second hand shops in KL can have great stuff cheaper than even the second hand shops overseas. A well-cleaned garment is cleaner than a new one that has been trampled on in the factory or worn by sweaty people trying it on at the mall.
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If you're going to somewhere snowing, suggest you have waterproof gloves and maybe windbreaker too
Because snow eventually melts, and turns into water

And u don't want to be wet in the winter
And lots of lip balm / moisturizer
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Nxt Mth is still summer-lah..Temp is not what you mentioned.. Abg 18C-24C similar to Cameron Highland  doh.gif

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airpor...y.html#calendar
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i'm going harbin again. 2nd time. oredi settled . 2nd jan- 5 jan 2015. wanna join in ?
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QUOTE(joshcifer @ Aug 15 2014, 11:32 PM)
I'll going to UK in autumn and winter. Are windbreaker, undershirts, jeans, sport shoes enough to keep me warm in autumn? Decide to buy only jacket, sweater, hat and gloves in UK when in winter. Do I need to buy boots? By the way, is buying winter clothes there is more cheaper compared to Malaysia?  Hopefully anyone can resolve my doubts. Thank
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there is shop called primark at oxford street, london....got sell cheap winter cloth at there....

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i'm going harbin again. 2nd time. oredi settled . 2nd jan- 5 jan 2015. wanna join in ?
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After school holiday cannot lah. Anyway will be going to Xian during christmas smile.gif
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Not exactly for on winter topic, but would uniqlo heat tech t-shirt be adequate to for autumn, 10-15 deg?
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After school holiday cannot lah. Anyway will be going to Xian during christmas smile.gif
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QUOTE(ysc @ Aug 18 2014, 08:23 AM)
If you're going to somewhere  snowing, suggest you have waterproof gloves and maybe windbreaker too
Because snow eventually melts, and turns into water

And u don't want to be wet in the winter
And lots of lip balm / moisturizer
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Don't forget waterproof shoes. laugh.gif

The worse feeling is soaked socks and shoes.
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dun go terra cotta place. damn waste time 1.
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If not going there, where wor? That's the main attraction
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If not going there, where wor? That's the main attraction
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Anyway abit ot liao should discuss in xian thread
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i am going to istanbul on 30nov until 8dec..temperature is between 5-10Celc..May I have any advice out there regarding winter. I travel with two kids 3 and 5 yo.
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I'm heading to a ski resort in Korea. Where do I get affordable waterproof ski pants for females in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(UpCar @ Aug 18 2014, 11:27 AM)
i'm going harbin again. 2nd time. oredi settled . 2nd jan- 5 jan 2015. wanna join in ?
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Hey!! I'm reaching there on 1st Jan evening and departing on 6th Jan in the morning.
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Hey!! I'm reaching there on 1st Jan evening and departing on 6th Jan in the morning.
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u free easy or guided tour or local tour ?

i am definitely going to visit my tigers again. stimix
u can come visit the tigers with me if u're not too busy. good view, great education and spectacular sights. (+ group tickets cheaper)

this time i'mma gonna buy 2 cows. last time i bought a goat , the tigers mauled too fast on it. good ol' stimix can verify this.

anyway i'll be in harbin from 2 JAN - 5 JAN. i arrive around 5pm from jilin. i'll be back to jilin on 5th morning.
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u free easy or guided tour or local tour ?

i am definitely going to visit my tigers again. stimix
u can come visit the tigers with me if u're not too busy. good view, great education and spectacular sights. (+ group tickets cheaper)

this time i'mma gonna buy 2 cows. last time i bought a goat , the tigers mauled too fast on it. good ol' stimix can verify this.

anyway i'll be in harbin from 2 JAN - 5 JAN. i arrive around 5pm from jilin. i'll be back to jilin on 5th morning.
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I'm going alone to visit my friend.
And have free and easy trip around.

She said the weather gonna be -25 degree. I only have 2 pairs of thermal wear. 1 wool top. 1 fleece. 1 windbreaker. and a small wool scarf and a pair of wool socks, together with waterproof hiking shoes.

I would visit the tigers if the entrance fee is not expensive. What I managed to check from net is around RM50.

I should had changed to RMB earlier. Now RM drop sad.gif
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Disposable surgical gloves
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okay guise.

imma going osaka on early feb.
what should i bring ?

for now i have a couple of jackets, gloves..
do i need those winter shoes ? can i wear just sneaker ?
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QUOTE(kehadapan @ Dec 8 2014, 08:25 PM)
okay guise.

imma going osaka on early feb.
what should i bring ?

for now i have a couple of jackets, gloves..
do i need those winter shoes ? can i wear just sneaker ?
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Just wear nice thick socks, will do just fine. Only thing you need to worry about are ears, lips and fingers shakehead.gif
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Just wear nice thick socks, will do just fine. Only thing you need to worry about are ears, lips and fingers  shakehead.gif
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for fingers i have winter gloves for that.

ears.. those earmuff ? will consider.

for lips, vaseline should be enough right ?
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for fingers i have winter gloves for that.

ears.. those earmuff ? will consider.

for lips, vaseline should be enough right ?
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Yup, for toes, fur lined shoes will be enough. Even sneakers will do if you don't get them wet.

Winter gloves sometimes not enough. I wear latex gloves for additional protection laugh.gif
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I believe they had them available on rentals. The last time I went skiing in Japan they had everything available for rent.
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QUOTE(kehadapan @ Dec 8 2014, 09:08 PM)
for lips, vaseline should be enough right ?

vaseline or any moisturizer / lip balm should be OK. just need to keep your lips moisturized cos it's very dry in winter. keep a good watch on your skin on your body as well particularly the inside thighs area and put body lotion / vaseline / moisturizer if you feel the skin's getting dry.
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Hi, i will be travelling to Scotland & UK this coming September, and the weather there is about 14-16 degree celsius. This may sound lame but it is the first time im travelling to a cold country. Just wonder how cold is it and what kind of cloths should i pack for my trip? Opinion needed >_< thanks.
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1. glove/mask is not needed. long john as well
2. lip balm and moisturizer cream as weather will be very dry
3. jacket preferable 2 or 3 layer depend on ur body tolerance to cold weather
4. shoes preferable is leather else if sport shoes make sure dont have alot of holes else when strong wind you will know what i mean

please check the weather for real feel and how strong is the wind.
sometimes if the wind is strong and 14 degree can make a lot of diff
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QUOTE(heff @ Jun 30 2015, 09:37 AM)
Hi, i will be travelling to Scotland & UK this coming September, and the weather there is about 14-16 degree celsius. This may sound lame but it is the first time im travelling to a cold country. Just wonder how cold is it and what kind of cloths should i pack for my trip? Opinion needed >_< thanks.
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A good windbreaker. It's the winds that will kill you.

How cold it is depends on person to person. If you cannot tahan cold one, layering is your saviour. I'd pack more tees (I usually travel with Uniqlo's heat-tech tees), 1 light fleece jumper, 1 heavier/warmer coat (mine's wool and it's very cosy). Only need to change/launder the tees. If very cold, layer the tees.

A warm cosy scarf can make a lot of difference. My fleece jumper has a hood. If not, I'd bring a beanie hat. Covering my head also makes a huge difference when the winds are strong. Since my hands and fingers as susceptible to the cold, I also need gloves.

You can buy the smaller items like scarves and gloves and beanies at really low prices at places like H&M and the like there so no need to buy and pack so many from here. They've got way more choices there as well.

I was in the UK in September/October and wasn't all that cold. I could walk around in just tee and jeans with a light jumper on a good (sunny) day. In the evenings, I needed the heavier coat though.
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QUOTE(heff @ Jun 30 2015, 09:37 AM)
Hi, i will be travelling to Scotland & UK this coming September, and the weather there is about 14-16 degree celsius. This may sound lame but it is the first time im travelling to a cold country. Just wonder how cold is it and what kind of cloths should i pack for my trip? Opinion needed >_< thanks.
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Depends on places you're going to..if you'll spend more time outdoor, better get a waterproof jacket as it rains a lot around August-September. Fairly it's not too cold, you could survive without jacket if it's not raining or get too windy.
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Guys, Im planning for snow activities during my stay in Hokkaido. Since its first time for me as a kampung ppl to go to snow areas.

I would like to enquire what type of boots should I purchase. Is it as long it is water proof then I good to go or there any other attributes I need to look for?

As for clothes, can anyone teach me how to layer it? First layer=thermal inner, 2nd layer= thick clothes, 3rd layer= waterproof treksuit, 4th layer= jackets. Is this correct?

Sorry for the stupid questions.
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QUOTE(lastlovesong @ Oct 12 2015, 01:45 PM)
Guys, Im planning for snow activities during my stay in Hokkaido. Since its first time for me as a kampung ppl to go to snow areas.

I would like to enquire what type of boots should I purchase. Is it as long it is water proof then I good to go or there any other attributes I need to look for?

As for clothes, can anyone teach me how to layer it? First layer=thermal inner, 2nd layer= thick clothes, 3rd layer= waterproof treksuit, 4th layer= jackets. Is this correct?

Sorry for the stupid questions.
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where can buy those inner garment like long john in malaysia?
found that heattech thing at uniqlo. just to check if got other alternatives
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QUOTE(ajay67 @ Nov 10 2015, 11:26 PM)
where can buy those inner garment like long john in malaysia?
found that heattech thing at uniqlo. just to check if got other alternatives
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QUOTE(ajay67 @ Nov 10 2015, 11:26 PM)
where can buy those inner garment like long john in malaysia?
found that heattech thing at uniqlo. just to check if got other alternatives
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I bought from Kok Kong in KL. Alot warmer than the uniqlo heatech.
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QUOTE(ajay67 @ Nov 10 2015, 11:26 PM)
where can buy those inner garment like long john in malaysia?
found that heattech thing at uniqlo. just to check if got other alternatives
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Just remember that for long johns there are different materials and different thicknesses. All depends on how warm you wanna be (and how cold a place you are going to).

You can also find them in shops like Universal Traveller, Wintertime, etc.
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QUOTE(michlove @ Nov 11 2015, 12:27 PM)
I bought from Kok Kong in KL. Alot warmer than the uniqlo heatech.
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QUOTE(michlove @ Nov 12 2015, 08:44 AM)
thnx!
what price range can i expect there?
they don provide price list
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thnx!
what price range can i expect there?
they don provide price list
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if it's longjohn you looking at, it's around RM100 per set. The downjackets are around RM300 - RM500.
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QUOTE(michlove @ Nov 13 2015, 10:47 AM)
if it's longjohn you looking at, it's around RM100 per set. The downjackets are around RM300 - RM500.
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how about your electronics protection in cold weather?
cameras & fons when in snow area?
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Since it has been long, just wondering, for waterproof shoes (preferably not boots), anyone got any recommendations on the brands?

Currently looking at a few brands, Salomon, Jack Wolfskin, Merrell etc.
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how about your electronics protection in cold weather?
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my electronic gadgets work well in Shirakawa-go and that time was Jan. Very thick heavy snow place. Temp about minus 10C. Only battery drain faster, that's all.
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Since it has been long, just wondering, for waterproof shoes (preferably not boots), anyone got any recommendations on the brands?

Currently looking at a few brands, Salomon, Jack Wolfskin, Merrell etc.
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My pair of trail shoes are from Columbia. Their range of waterproof shoes are called Outdry I think.
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Nov 25 2015, 11:16 PM)
My pair of trail shoes are from Columbia. Their range of waterproof shoes are called Outdry I think.
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Columbia. Hard for me to see and get. Lol. That's why I am still viewing around. Not really wanting something that is for hiking but to go around especially under the rain.
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Columbia. Hard for me to see and get. Lol. That's why I am still viewing around. Not really wanting something that is for hiking but to go around especially under the rain.
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QUOTE(michlove @ Nov 25 2015, 11:54 AM)
my electronic gadgets work well in Shirakawa-go and that time was Jan. Very thick heavy snow place. Temp about minus 10C. Only battery drain faster, that's all.
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i heard some phone/camera will not work if too cold. that's why i want to know.

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i heard some phone/camera will not work if too cold. that's why i want to know.
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we were using Samsung and Sony handphone. Cameras are Fuji and Canon. No problem at all.....it's just minus 10. If minus 30, then got problem lor
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QUOTE(michlove @ Nov 26 2015, 11:28 AM)
we were using Samsung and Sony handphone. Cameras are Fuji and Canon. No problem at all.....it's just minus 10. If minus 30, then got problem lor
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QUOTE(digitalz @ Nov 26 2015, 07:16 AM)
Columbia. Hard for me to see and get. Lol. That's why I am still viewing around. Not really wanting something that is for hiking but to go around especially under the rain.
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Hm I do have a pair of timberlands as well but it's bulky and looks more like boots. The Columbia pair I have actually looks like walking casual shoes, not too bulky. And comfortable to walk in. So I use it for travels since can be worn for city or hiking use laugh.gif

QUOTE(ajay67 @ Nov 26 2015, 11:26 AM)
i heard some phone/camera will not work if too cold. that's why i want to know.
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I'm sure it'll be fine. It's not that cold. I would be more afraid of hot than cold. Weather too hot, might overheat and burn out lol.
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Nov 27 2015, 04:17 PM)
Hm I do have a pair of timberlands as well but it's bulky and looks more like boots. The Columbia pair I have actually looks like walking casual shoes, not too bulky. And comfortable to walk in. So I use it for travels since can be worn for city or hiking use laugh.gif
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Although some of the Timberland are quite nice, I am most likely getting Merrell or some other brands instead since I am spoilt with choices with the brands that I can find now. Haha.
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Guys I'm planning to go Taiwan end month where can i buy winter cloths around Kl ? is there any for plus size looking for like gloves / scarfs / jackets etc .
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QUOTE(makaveli @ Dec 5 2016, 01:12 AM)
Guys I'm planning to go Taiwan end month where can i buy winter cloths around Kl ? is there any for plus size looking for like gloves / scarfs / jackets etc .
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Are u go8ng to the mountai region? If yes u need winter clothing for end dec. Otherwise, Taiwan winter is not extreme. Few fleeces will do. Temp should be ~13-16c that time.
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Universal traveler, Wintertime etc. seem overpriced. Where do you guys usually get your winter clothing?

Jeans
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Tshirt
Down jacket

enough for winter? My first time this year end innocent.gif
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QUOTE(ThisWorldisWeird @ May 23 2017, 08:34 AM)
Universal traveler, Wintertime etc. seem overpriced. Where do you guys usually get your winter clothing?

Jeans
Long John top
Tshirt
Down jacket

enough for winter? My first time this year end  innocent.gif
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Do check previous thread. There is another 1 located in loke Yew from this merged thread.
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QUOTE(ThisWorldisWeird @ May 23 2017, 01:34 AM)
Universal traveler, Wintertime etc. seem overpriced. Where do you guys usually get your winter clothing?

Jeans
Long John top
Tshirt
Down jacket

enough for winter? My first time this year end  innocent.gif
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Question should be.. where to?
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Question should be.. where to?
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China is big. South and north for me quite different. North is much colder compared to the South. Well, that's what I feel anyways.

I am used to the cold so I am not too sure about your tolerance. Protect the ears and lower half of the body is much more important for me.
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China is big. South and north for me quite different. North is much colder compared to the South. Well, that's what I feel anyways.

I am used to the cold so I am not too sure about your tolerance. Protect the ears and lower half of the body is much more important for me.
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Hmm, Sichuan..But will include some mountain/hill peaks as well.. End of Dec-Jan.
It's my first time so I do not know my own tolerance as well sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ThisWorldisWeird @ May 23 2017, 08:34 AM)
Universal traveler, Wintertime etc. seem overpriced. Where do you guys usually get your winter clothing?

Jeans
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Down jacket

enough for winter? My first time this year end  innocent.gif
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Uniqlo.

And if you're going to China, my warmest winter jacket bought from China. Damn cheap and last damn long.
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ May 25 2017, 09:39 AM)
Uniqlo.

And if you're going to China, my warmest winter jacket bought from China. Damn cheap and last damn long.
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Uniqlo's look so thin. Are they warm enough?
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Uniqlo's look so thin. Are they warm enough?
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Layer up.
Their heat tech is pretty good for me. I like how their products are thin yet warm.

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Layer up.
Their heat tech is pretty good for me. I like how their products are thin yet warm.
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