What is Secret Amp????
Sh... it's Secret eh...

lol.. By the way. as proud owner of No. 1 of Secret amp, and the user of several prototypes of secret amp past 1 year. i will like to take opportunity of opening up this thread. as a appreciation of the hard work of several audiophiles and technictions for their hard work to make this amp production comes into reality. i had partially involve in some activities in this amp at the earlier stage. and it was a tough way for me to go, and finally, Secret amp proved that malaysia made Amp were Capable of providing better sounding as compared to imported headamp and with much lower price. and this proved Malaysia Boleh.. this unit i guess might be sell internationally for price much higher than local retail price.
The Secret Amp Official Bulk



Owner List :
1. PcWork
2. yuheng
3. icyfawkes
4. walabies
5. neohardcore
6. Enigmatic
7. Sieg
8. xijian1985
10. Kaivr
14. stormspider




This post has been edited by PcWork: Apr 5 2009, 02:34 AM

lol it had been the secret for the past 1 year..
until it had been named Secret Amp.
lol.

i seriously think u shall hold your horse of selling the philips hp9000 and MS1..
from my experience. this secret amp match "quite" nicely with Ms1 and my philips HP1000.
=X
i owned both headphone too.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 22 2009, 01:54 PM

i not sure.. the picture were linked from walabies photobucket account.
perhaps new photo updates???
=P
from what i heard he said just now.. is roughly the photo can't represent the actual beauty of the amp.so incase of misleading. better took it off.

what spec you want?
it is an headamp. with line in , line out, and a volume control.

by the way.. i am not the one making the amp eh. haha
i might supply the cable (highly possible).
i had a chat with the amp maker just now. and seems all is set and run. just keep our eye open..
hehe

by the way i dont know what spec u guys want. those who really wanna try it out can contact me. i still have the final prototype on my hand.
but this only open to person who are interested in knowing the sound quality. and i will definately not entertain person who wants me to reveal the internal parts of the amp for copying. i has stick it withsome things else. so if the intention is other than come and test the sound. pls don't waste the time.


just a rough information.
making the Printed PCB already cost very highly. casing, with specially designed case, specially ordered colour, printing which has wasted a lot of the casing.. debug of the pcb layout. order the fiber made pcb... all and all is just to ensure the final outcome is best that they can be done. i had witness all this process as well i had been involve as a "tester" to test the sound. each improvement they done had siginificantly improved the sound. for me. the pass 1 year i had tried numberous version of the secret amp.. with different caps.. different component, different shielding, different components. this is the effords that i admire which caused me to beg yuheng and walabies to sell me the first unit of this secret amp.. All the cost were absorb by yuheng and walabies. and as far as i knew, the total cost involving were close to RM 50K. and it also involve some R&D payment for the designer which i not sure of how much, and it's improper for me to ask. which at the first stage of decide what casing to use, i even have a quite serious arguement with yuheng and walabies about their skeptic in choosing the casing. for me , i said, it's the best we use default, or available alluminium casing to speed up the production, less trouble, less cost.. well yuheng and walabies did hold on and they insist on making it much more "special" and honestly. i personally never seen an amp with two round corner, two sharp corner.. and it's really great to be held in hand. and what i much more respect is the "insist" in making it great, although i had sometime complains to them that i had too waitted for so long... they are too picky.. simply too choosy in picking those parts and case.. and even printing.. the will of making it "great" seriously gain my respect.

so i seriously hope that these information can helps clear up buyer's mind that it can't be match up even with low grade parts, plastic casing, simple donut board or simple jalan pasar type printed PCB. it's a pain to try to come out somethings good. without even copy ANY, mark my word "ANY" schematic over internet, without even use their principals. and this afford is beying neglected and disrespect by simply asking for naked picture.. or even schematics... its the same feeling as some one goes up and ask Coca-Cola or KFC.. what is your recipies???
when hearing the amp, do imagine how much hard work had they placed into it, and it's not an easy task. it had last for 1.5 years, friends who knew us personally will know that we already have first prototype come out at 2007..

so i take the oppurtunity here to express my feeling of seeing what happen in forum lately including some "improper PMs" asking for some detail i shouldn't reveal.

Finally, for those who really keen to know the sound matches your personal headphone or taste or not. pls do come drop by to serdang. i have a final prototype on my hand. i welcome those who come for sound. and i will stick the amp within a black box for testing. and i can assure you its the same units as the final outcome. but since the final one has a better casing and grounding. the unit on sales shall be more quiet.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 24 2009, 03:16 AM

hold your horse dude. how do you know there's a mistake? or you are the one who judge which is the mistake?
since if you said it is copied here and there. then why borther of interested of requesting the picture of it? to learn how to implement it?
i learn the fact that if some one disclosed their amp internal parts, expecially commercial amps, or after market amp. they often get ambushed by saying "after market amp is so often overpriced... and i had recall some guys in here even said "RSA tomahawk is just a Cmoy.. i can make it below RM 100, they are seriuosly overprice."
well for this case. i will like to stress that this specific secret amp is NOT copy from any sources over internet, nor the standard shematics for an amp.
and pls get your words nicely if you don't want to start a flame war.. you often post like you are being the mighty and saying other ppls were bad.. downsides,, and so on by the fact you never even have a listen at the amp. since you are now working on the commercial version of the amp, how about now ppl said your amp " the amp you design is copy from internet standard schematic with some minor tweak. it's full of compromise, and it is just another similar amp with different maker and brand name. as same as thousands of DIY brand over the internet.. so why bother to spend time on it? the time you spend on your amp on tweak it can't make your amp fly to the heaven.. or make it a serious big monster that can drive headphone or even speaker? it still stick to the nature of the op amp you used as we must remember the science, that anythings hard work you do won't break the rules of the nature science and you can't break the limits of the op amp itself. there's always much better shematic & parts over internet. just depend you know how to use it or not!" feeling nice?



and i also had learn that there's too much people who is really great in critics. critics is the easiest way to speak of. just say it..as if you are way beyond them.
and can't you read it properlly? i said i am involve in ttesting the amp. hence i respect the afford spend by walabies and yuheng. pls do NOT even mention that it is "my product"
how about when your commercilized amp comes out. pls do includes the complete and detail schematic on them? and some one else comes out and say. hell this amp only cost half of the actual price.. this op amp only cost RM 20... this caps make it lum sum only RM 50.. so total not even RM 100... you want that? if you really did it that way. then go ahead. it's a great community service.

if you don't want to do that. pls do not even disturb or interested in the naked picture. go ahead and do your amp which is better sounding. and produce it commercialized as a fair comparison.

how about go to KFC and tell them. cooking chicken is copy here and there. we involve oil. some powder and spices.. just depend on how we implement it. now KFC must tell us what they use within the fried chicken so that we as a consumer know what we eaten into our tummy. and it actually helps to promotes KFC even better.

if it is so easy. then everyone can be the best cook. those recipies are no secret, infact they are tonnes of them over the www.
this is similar case to the secret amp. the parts itself is no secret. but the way to implement it is indeed a trade secret.


bro. not that i am being the one who bring out the flame. just you have to understand the "detail" i mean here is not the fact that they are asking for type of battery.. physical size and so on.. i feel that the spec itself can't even indicates the sound quality of it produced. hence i am offering ppl who interested to come over and listen. else. wait for the first batch user review for it's performance.

and design the amp really don't even relying on any single shit of paper nor spec sheet of the chips. everythings were design freely with suggestino and advice from a more than 2 high end technicions who repairs high end hifi gear.
here i will like to answer some question. internal bettery were running as indicated in picture. GP rechargeable battery 3.6V 300 mah. can be bought at most of the store. and there's a plug on top of the board. meaning user can indeed change their battery them self. the battery is meantly for wireless indoor phone.the chip, the battery option will have an upgrade version which uses a larger battery which will make the amp last for about 280 hours per single charge on driving normal headphone.. i not sure is that an op amp. is NOT interchangeable. mW output is not sure. but it is capable of driving 600ohm headphone with a relatively nice control despite the size. driving usual Hd650 and HD580 is not a big problem as the secret amp is initially designed for my HD580.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 24 2009, 02:40 PM

pals. no harm. it's not you. what i am refering is some guys who PMed me about the secret amp.
i can understand your question nicely. =)
and i am not posting it over to point it at you. really.
pls do ask if u need to know anythings. i will gladly to answer it.
by the way. i really don't know much of the amp. and even i not very sure what it is used even i have it on my hand.
anyway. but i can sure that.. yesterday i tested the upgraded battery version, it's much more powerful.
so definitely worth the extra bucks for the battery. i am getting mine upgrade to bigger battery.
hahaha

i never ever said you are the one who pmed me. so pls don't sit into the wrong chair.


the secret amp with me is without casing.
that's why i have to stick it with some tapes to protect it. and that's why i can't provide the dimention. who knows how big the casing will be?

thanks storm spider. that's exactly what's happening right now. and i am sort of hold responsiblity to be the "publicity" of the amp?
f*** yuheng and walabies shall give me the amp for free.. damit.

but the problem is? people keep asking me question . while i am No. 1 customer..
lol. that's funny. how about ask the first person who purchase a computer to explain how intel processor inside work????

i think i had made this post earlier very clear. it's NOT my production. NOT my design. NOT my properties.. i am just No. 1 Owner...

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Added on March 24, 2009, 11:21 pmi have to say. my offer to ppl to come and listen is just considering there's a lot of ppl wanna test. and i don't have much info. best is to come and listen. else talk so much also in the end also ppl still don't know how the sound is. how much do you think i earn? why shall i consider about other buyers? pls do not put me on the responsible to sell the unit. i am doing it and wasting my own time. i have full load of study material to proceed. and yet i am offering ppl to test listen. while i earn RM 0.00 ( NADA) from yuheng and walabies.. i can swear to god if i earn any cents from the sales or shares from the amp. then go ahead and curse me kao kao. damit.
if i am not considering ppl from serdang area. might as well be fair. i withdraw my offer for ppl to listen to it.
go ahead and wait till the amp come out. i had got what i wanted. what for i so godamn busy body offering service to let ppl listen while wasting my time.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 24 2009, 11:25 PM

usual price is RM 799
now for first 20 units RM 699. and can choose number..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/971838


This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 24 2009, 11:26 PM

i don't know what is the spec. i don't remember the spec as it already return to them and i didn't record it or snap photo with it.
it comes in a black pices of wrapping. size like a handphone battery.
with plug. so i unplug the connector from the amp. and plug it with new battery.
if i am not mistaken, it's 3.6V 1200 mah. as compare to stock 3.6V 300mah. and it's a litium polymer compare to the stock is NiMH.

it affect the sound quite much i think. it's much more powerful and well control to me on my ER6i.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 24 2009, 11:49 PM

maybe i was wrong. but it is almost same size as my motorola razr battery wor. can fit nicely as there's extra space inside.

bro. infact from the first post until the last post i already stated "i don't know much with the amp"
yet in the end ppl though that i want to keep it as secret and hell a lot of Business and Economic lecture teaching me how to run business.
it's NOT my business. i just opened it as a club. what's wrong with that? it doesn't mean no question allowed, but the person who asked the question EXPECTED that they MUST get an good answer to make them happy.
this is the so call neutral? you have your right. then how about put yourself in my shoe and think again? the amp is not out yet.. yet i am a user of the amp are expected to answer? perhaps you take my intention that i PM you mentioning that this amp is great as an intention i try to earn a profit from you. bro.. thats not what i do for bro. if you really have a feeling i am doing that way. then i shall realize that i am wrong in assuming we are really close bro all the while till now.


that's a confirm. the amp comes with charging circuit;.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 25 2009, 04:57 PM

the name is confirmed as "the Secret Amp" already
perhaps the next one i will really insist yuheng them use "not so secret amp"
and then
"Half Secret Amp"
then " No Secret Amp"

u know. i sort of having ideal of they can produce an tube amp.. with half the tube sticking out from the casing.. as "half Secret Amp.."
lol
this going to be a tough one for No Secret amp.. using a Wire Mesh under transparent acrylic sheet as casing?

This post has been edited by PcWork: Mar 26 2009, 02:09 AM

i think it's the same things u asked me to buy leh.
the one from enacom (harmonix)

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Added on April 3, 2009, 2:18 ami think they work very hard on it. hehhehe
i am no. 1 amp leh
next time if this amp sales a lot. i might need to do a glass shelve. put it up like a cinderella shoe or somethings,. awahahaha

This post has been edited by PcWork: Apr 3 2009, 02:18 AM

hm..
why still diam diam no news like that..
i gonna call yuheng tomorrow to ask again. lol
storm spider get no.14. he tested the finalised pcb version at my place just now. seems like he also wanna call yuheng to ask him make it faster. lol

now i everyday use the caps.
really enjoyed it.
lol

not sure if it is crossfeed. haha
actually yuheng said wnana call it secret switch. but too much secret liao
lol
by the way. the crossfeed can be switch off by the switch beside it.

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Added on April 5, 2009, 2:19 amnow.. where's no. 1.. how come no.1 not yet got. but u no. 4 already get..
lol

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Added on April 5, 2009, 3:04 ami am working on the cable..
=)

Pure Silver Cable from PcWork..
and the sounds is one step above than what ever i previously done.




just i have very limited source of the plugs. that's why i can't seems to promise to bundle this amp with the cable i made.

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Added on April 5, 2009, 3:12 am
my current portable setup..
=X


This post has been edited by PcWork: Apr 5 2009, 03:12 AM

cable i got extra.
i spend a big amount of money buying that cable.
and the plugs is the one has problem
Canare F-12 is sold out in pasar road.
switchcraft have to order.
i am ordering 40 pcs of plug. hopefully they can arrive when this amp reach our hand.
then i can make it.
i lack of good plugs now..
=(

This post has been edited by PcWork: Apr 5 2009, 03:32 AM

wow....
after 4.7 then goes to 8.2 one?
keng
is that K701 stock cable?