Look I am not against the idea of husband fulfilling his responsibility and give money to their wifes. I know I must give money to my future wife, in fact I am already doing it already, because me and my gf are very close liao. To me i know my gf is capable, and worthy of my trust and love.

The only thing is, is the wife worthy of accepting the money or not.

Apparently, in my example above the "wife" only know how to spend money but not earn money, and also living every single day as such, there is nothing to learn, no goal, no career, and boring.

I have seen many capable women who works and can take care of their child.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 12:08 AM

ONE DAY YOU WILL SUCK YOUR HUSBAND DRY OFF ALL HIS MONEY !!!!!!! THEN YOU WILL DIVORCE HIM OFF IF HE LOST THE ABILITY TO GIVE YOU MONEY TO SPENT.

i take care of my gf or soon to be wife, because she is worthy and has proven to be competent, capable and love me of course. Both of us working hard to save money to start a family !!!

Not like you MOORISH, ONLY KNOW HOW TO TAKE, BUT NOT GIVING, YOU LAZY WOMAN !!!!!

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 12:16 AM

What will you do if your husband earn lesser and give you lesser $$$??

Divorce and then marry another richer man? YES OR NO ???

IF you say NO then WHY?

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 12:25 AM

the working husband and a loyal housewife is truely an ideal marriage.

I agree partially to this statement, if life were back then like 20 to 30 years ago. Nowadays it is close to impossible achieving that, and it is becoming very rare for young couple who is now between age 20 to mid 30's age group in year 2009.


what ppl dont understand is when u are married you work togther in a team now. You compliment each other. thru good and bad times. No more MY money and YOUR money.

YUP that's what me and my gf is working towards achieving it.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 12:31 AM

Alright, RM1K per month is saved. Let's skip that part about the money he spent on her, before she becomes a mother.

I have seen many women has no problem working during pregnancy, take maternity leave and resumes work after having the baby, with income range from Rm2K to RM3K. So what's the RM1K saved?
In fact in terms of household income it is a lost because only the husband bringing the income home and not both working.

In english proverb is called "Penny wise, pound foolish", You saved every penny only to find yourself lose out on the opportunity to earn more pound.



If both working will increase the household income. And then they can build the family a better life because of the increase income and of course the child can have brighter future.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 12:43 AM

Well I don't mind sharing this actually. What me and my gf are trying to achieve is that to be financially independent whereby at one point, she can retire and be fulltime mother.

But from what I see, that she can be reluctant to sacrifice her career even after married or after having baby. It is entirely her choice, but since both of us are still young and energetic we want to work towards improving our life-style, and won't settle down for a below average life-style.

I said, it is entirely her choice. In fact we have similar mindset that we won't settle for less.
I myself believe it is a team of 2 person, husband and wife to build a family.
But we treat ourselves with respect, praise and give moral support to each other in both bad and good times.

As for the love and care for children, honestly speaking I am not a father yet. Can't comment much.

I am expecting like both me and my gf taking turns juggling between working time and time at home to raise the child.

I admitted that I am money minded.
I said both men and women are money minded.

At least both of us are doing something rather than some people who just marry rich and being lazy leeching money from husband.

I disagree with moorish because she want money, but she admitted that she don't earn much money, and not career minded. She left the responsibility of earning money entirely to her husband, since day one she got married.

The differences is that moorish is the conventional type of woman. The characteristics are as follows.

1. Marry to the rich man in order be fulltime wife, no need to work. Thus she has managed to bypass the working hardship.
2. Have baby and be full time mother, no need to work, but fulfilled biological responsibility of giving birth and raising a child.
3. Since husband is the sole provider, normally being a women don't have much to say or rights in the family but obey and respects husband decision in most cases. The respect level is often biased towards the man of being dorminant.
4. Spend husband money, and spend time gossiping with other similar fulltime housewifes and mothers.


Career minded woman characteristics.

1. Marries a man who is equally or more competent than her in terms of career and income.
2. Don't necessarily spend husband's money, but expect love and attention similar to a conventional woman, but she draws the line between work and personal matters very clearly.
3. Husband is only the major provider of food and shelter, she too contribute in making things better.
4. Equal and mutual respect between husband and wife, and have very close discussion on finance, expenses, and ideas of improving the family.
5. The woman won't simply give up the career to be fulltime mother or housewife even after having baby. Unless she wanted to, or both husband and wife agrees that the income level makes is possible.
6. Also spend time gossiping like conventional women but does it in office, and also talks business.

It isn't, because we are constantly want to improve ourselves, and won't settle for less.

Case 1
An average man who drives a kancil or wira, has a housewife with 3 kids. Lives in a low cost flat. Poor but at least both ends are met.

Case 2
A corporate executive, who drives a known brand Japanese car who has a wife how is equally competent working, drives an imported car, with 2 kids living in a terrace house or maybe a bungalow. Above average life-style, both ends are met with some extra, for the uncertainties.

Case 3
A VIP, possibly a businessman who drives a latest model of BMW or Mercedes, has a wife who also drives similar cars with 3 kids living in a bungalow or mansion. Very rich, until the pit of cash is almost bottomless.



Me and my gf are trying to achieve case 2 and slightly in between case 2 and case 3.


I came from poor background but honestly, being poor isn't shameful if willing to learn to work to earn money.
It is only shameful that being poor and lazy and refuse to learn or earn money, thus settling down for an average or below average life-style.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 01:35 AM

I have to agree that the goal is the same.

Even though the goal is the same but result is different. But one have to admit that THE ONE WHO WORKS MORE, WILL GET MORE !!!

No pain, no gain.

Modern lifestyle makes it possible for the once male dominated market to be explored by modern women, who wants to make their fortune be it for their career or starting a family or earning more than enough until achieving a graceful and comfortable retirement life. Women are now almost equally as competent as men, in the working society. Thus conventional women who dreamt only of marrying the rich, and being a fulltime housewife are becoming a topic of the past. Although some still think the same way, but more woman chooses to work for their own money and be less dependent on the opposite sex.

It is increasingly rare to hear from younger generations of women that would answer "I want to get married and be a fulltime housewife." Most modern woman nowadays would answer jobs like secretary, stewardess ,doctors, lawyers, businesswoman, and so on. The rights of women that most women has fought for has become a reality which is gender equality and mutual respect of being players on competing on equal grounds in the economy.

The education system is also a major factor of this change, because more and more teenagers goes to college and further their studies. College and universities thought and equipped both men and women with the skills and knowledge necessary and as demanded in the job market.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 02:36 AM

Watever...

I haven't finish typing my story.

So you choose conventional woman or career woman as a wife?

I will go for the second one.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 02:02 AM

Of course I must be equally competent or better than her, in order for her to notice me. Right?

Hey man which woman you choose?? career or conventional type.

The education system is also a major factor of this change of more women entering the job market, because of demanding parents makes it more and more teenagers goes to college and further their studies. College and universities thought and equipped both men and women with the skills and knowledge necessary and as demanded in the job market.

So Moorish, if you are so against working women or working mothers, and you wanna spread your ideology to all the girls of marry rich man or being money minded in LYN. Whatever !!

I am sure to say there will be a large number of younger generation of girls are totally against you simply because most are educated up to at least college or university level and ready to go find jobs on their own. Women like you are already a history topic and are very rare.

Simply walk down the street and point out one average looking lady, and she may tell you she has a degree in ______ (whatever the course) and is working as ________ (job).

Since you are against working women/mothers, then don't send your baby daughter to kindergarten, school, college or even university because eventually she will soon grow up and start working.

Whatever you are debating all this while are TOTALLY WRONG , and I bet you wanted the best for your daughter especially education and you may send her to the best kindergarten, best school, then best college and university then you of course wanted to see her thrive in her career and marriage.

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Added on October 12, 2009, 2:44 amI can't blame you for not knowing how to how to choose.

My point here is money comes secondary, as long as man and woman has the right attitude and the mindset is on the right path plus some hard working, income will surely increase eventually.

On the other hand one be it man or woman who works in a comfort zone, and mediocre lifestyle, and don't expect much, understandably the income level also won't change much.



I won't say I choose my gf, but I actually judge her based on her attitude and mindset, which much alike to me which is to strive for career.

This post has been edited by blitzboy: Oct 12 2009, 02:44 AM