Hey guys,
I'm currently on a standard Daihatsu engine. 6v 660 n/a carburetor.
I want to convert to a 12v EFi 660 n/a.

Any of you have done it before?
What parts do i need to start this project?
Can i just change the head?

Jason

ok..
what about transplanting a non-turbo engine?
any idea what engine to put in?

can't go beyond 850cc tho..current on is only a 660.

I'm planning on keeping my kancil for a long long time.
Its been with me for 13-14 years already since my family got it. I Just did up the interior and body the past few months..just a little bit more left.

Engine is still fine, just have problems now and then due to wear and tear from usage. Its a 660 Daihatsu engine.

My intention is to reduce FC and prolong "life" for my kancil add in a little power will do. After all these years FC slowly increased..loss of power too..
Was thinking of EFi cause it has lower FC & quiet too.

What about a 850cc Kelisa ED-DE?

This post has been edited by JasonB: Apr 29 2009, 05:45 PM

guys?
any of you have made/installed your own OCT?
any pics to share?

want to make one for my kancil.
its spewing oil and vapour on my air filter..

I know that ppl DIY their OCT for less than RM20 or so.
try searching it online.

Want to try but not sure where the hoses are and where they go?

thanks for the info.
will most prob make one rather than buying. That'll be later.

cause now car engine giving more prob..power loss is tremendous. even 4ton lorry can overtake me on slopes..seriously considering a engine transplant. But a non turbo engine..if cant find a ED-DE (kelisa 850) was thinking of a ED-10 (kancil 850) manual of course.

guys, any recommendations/tips/reviews for Na engines?

Thanks Deto for your extensive explanation.
Sounds like alot of work to transplant the ED-DE then.

Deto and LYN Kancil gang!
I have started restoring my old Kancil since Nov last year.
The last item for me to do is the engine. I want to complete this project of mine before end of this year.
So hope you guys don't mind me bugging & asking too much questions ya.

Need all your opinion on this.

What i want:
- Improve FC.
(current 12.5cents/Km, +/-)
- Easy to maintain.
(currently every month sure have something to fix..old car ma..)
- Spare parts easily available.
- Just enough power to climb Genting cukup la..heheh no need power power..kepish!
(Currently with 2 ppl can only reach Gotong Jaya, engine struggling gear 3 or 2.. )

What i have:
- Daihatsu 660 6v na (M)
- RM3.5k to transplant. (if able to cut down cost better la haha..)

Options:
- Top overhaul.
- Overhaul.
- L5 660 4piston na (M)
- any more ideas??

Greatly appreciate all your contributions.
Thanks!
Jason

Thanks Deto once again. You've been a great help.
Still have to really think this through.

L500 na 4piston
-looks tempting. more power. less vibe. better long rage drive. great engine.
But the scary thing is that we don't know the h.c history. Plus the parts are mostly 2nd hand from chop shop..compared to L2/s/Kancil where we can get from spare parts shop.
Could have high possibility of major problems.

L500 na 3 piston
I hear this engine parts are easier to get. Compared to other L5.
Might consider this too. Tehy say engine parts similar to kenari/kelisa betul ke?
L500s(EF-GL) - 659cc 12v dohc 52ps/7.2Krpm 5.8kg-m/4Krpm NA

Overhauling/modding
This would be playing safe.
Like you said it restores the power..but still 2 valve per piston struggle (if i do then I'll have to live with this engine till it dies.)
Wont be considering to change to 12v EFi..too much $$ there might as well transplant.
I already upgraded to electronic distributor and L5 dash + blower. Nice.

Will update again when i have decided.


Sorry guys, cant join in for TT. Really busy with work.
You guys student eh?

This post has been edited by JasonB: May 8 2009, 04:15 PM

Wow..tommi88, detomaso & nixZorus students..??!!
and all playing Kcars already..darn. salute you guys!
Plus you guys really know your stuff eh..engine la, interior la..and all the works.

Back in the days when i was studying..no cash, no turbo, no car..

Very fortunate bunch you are. Hahaha!

Guys!
My FC have been terrible the past 3 weeks.
Normally its RM40 > 22.22li for 300 to 310km
For the past weeks its barely 280km and this week was 260km.

I'm suspecting something amiss. But not sure what is it.
My Driving pattern the same.
Spark Plug + Air filter few months old.
Engine oil ok.

What could be wrong?

but RM40 > 310km to 260km is a massive increase in FC.
I'm missing about 40 - 50km...adei..

Update status on my transplant engine project - Shelved for now..
Money have to siphon to fund for a new house...

Looks like now i'm only left with 2 choices with the budget allocated..
overhaul the ol' EF-CL 660
or put in a kancil 850 (what is the code for this engine?)

btw..is the 850 better than the 660?
in terms of FC

Stumbled across this engine..
didnt know they exist.
Daihatsu 850cc 12v - where can i get one?? i want!

Credits to blog owner.KZ Auto

Hmn..u sure its just a 6v to 12v conversion? The blog owner says its from Japan..but 12v 850 EFi sound really nice..
wha..your bro so secretive sure some big project! Nice of you to have a bro that shares the same passion.

Btw update on car:
My signal lights wont work. Don't know why.
Checked fuse. working
Hazard lights are working.
Workshop say the steering console problem. ask me go look for one at chop shop. $$$ L5 rack with console?

Last night jack up my car.
Found out Oil seeping. The whole bottom part of engine has traces of oil and grime.. even to the gear box..adei..
Decided to send the Kancil for general overhaul tomorrow..
To change seals, filters, clutch, oil, belts, clean cylinders, head, tb and all the works..
Looks like its gonna be a major cleanup.
More $$$$

Can't wait for it to be done...

tommi88 -
I'm keeping the 660 engine.. hahaha.
I found out the other day. Not only the engine head cover has Daihatsu written on it but the gearbox and the lower part of the engine had "D" logo as well.

budakhops -
i am restoring 15 years kancil. and gonna be completed soon enough.
spent almost 4k in total.
btw my car was in a terrible condition that's why cost so much.

budakhops
The gun is the mechanism is found on all 4 doors that controls the central locking on your car doors.

Got car back.
just changed the steering console. RM40..
didnt overhaul yet. mechanic says don't do first.

gonna just change engine oil, filters and belts first.

yup. the mech went to half cut la. take from some mira. hahaha.

Hi,
I'm in Cheras, KL.

So far what i've done up is considered extensive to some.
When i started my project, i chose to do the body works first rather than the engine, because then the engine was working fine..

As for you run the engine and see if al is ok and do just a normal engine service first.
-Change Engine oil, filters petrol, air and oil, belts timing, compressor/alternator, battery.
-Check for oil & exhaust leaks as well.
-Check your spark plugs / distributor / brake pads & fluid

As for tires i changed from a 12 in steel rims to 13in daihatsu sport rims. its lighter. better pickup and handling.
Up to you if you have sufficient budget.
-Check absorber see if they are leaking, if yes change.

Tips: Do change the essentials first rather than the aesthetics.

Do update us
Cheers

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Added on May 29, 2009, 3:06 pmbtw guys,
i;m looking for this daihatsu air filter holder cover.
can anyone tell me where to find one. * borrowed pic


and i'm DIYing a OCT(oil catch tank) just that i have no clue where to plug it to.
PCV? where is it? is it under the air filter box? that protruding "L" pipe from the head?
any pics? desperately need this..

Cheers



This post has been edited by JasonB: May 29 2009, 03:06 PM

Regardless if yours is a mira or even kancil or even a bus/lorry, high speed crashes mostly end up in a ugly sight.
So drive safely.

yup. anti roll bars are great stuff.
i'm using a Mira L200 anti roll bar. great stuff.. even with 13in rim and stock absorber + spring.