Flaw For Sejarah Marking, SPM 2008 EXPERIENCE
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 Mar 16 2009, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(yj718 @ Mar 16 2009, 06:42 PM) y nobody told me about this??! It's your teacher responsibility. Make teacher keep on remind us, don't leave blank, just hentam!i got b4......... ><   |
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Mar 16 2009, 06:52 PM
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A few things to clarify.
1. Bear in mind that this doesn't work if you put "Rentap telah dibunuh" and "Rentap tidak dibunuh". If you have any 'opposite' answers you get zero marks because it is obvious that you are playing a guessing game. 2. This trick of spamming answers for every question doesn't really work for Science subject papers. |
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Mar 16 2009, 06:55 PM
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Yes, and don't put offensive words like "Rentap telah dirogol". There's a special penalty for it.
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Mar 16 2009, 07:02 PM
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if like this, no wonder we have so many high scorer in SPM
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Mar 16 2009, 07:12 PM
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Haha ya. Thats why i get credit for Sejarah in SPM, while i always failed it in my school exams.
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Mar 16 2009, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(Angel01 @ Mar 16 2009, 04:27 PM) Exactly, only for SEJARAH u can do that, and i didnt believe it UNTIL i tried it EVEN IN my SPM, I SAID U better be right u sejarah teacher... my whole paper was filled with answers Including rubbish answers... thx mate....btw, agama islam also like tat...  |
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Mar 16 2009, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(Angel01 @ Mar 16 2009, 08:02 AM) I realised one flaw for sejarah marking is that. a flaw? how would u know?1. THEY DO NOT MINUS MARKS FOR WRONG ANSWER. Example The question is only 1 MARK. Lets say they ask What happen to Rentap after james Brooke attacked him. the Answer can be like this.. 1. Rentap telah Dibunuh. Rentap telah dibicara. Rentap telah dibuang Negeri. Rentap telah digantung. Assuming i wrote this in the answer... Assuming Rentap telah dibunuh is correct.. THE Other answer they will read through, AND EVEN though its wrong, they WILL not put wrong and on the other HAND they give you 1 MARK because u have a correct answer there. Rentap Telah Dibunuh. Hence you score 1/1 Mark. At first i didnt believe this. I did this IN SPM 2008 and got A1 for it. At the essay part i didnt know what happen to Dato Patinggi after he diserang and it was a 5 marks question. I put Dato Patinggi telah ditangkap. Dato patinggi telah dibicara. Dato Patinggi telah dihukum. Dato Patinggi telah Dibunuh. Dato Patinggi telah dibuang negeri. AND PLEASE REMEMBER DONT WRITE LIKE THIS Dato Patinggi telah ditangkap,dibunuh,dibicara. WRITE in different sentence. |
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Mar 16 2009, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 16 2009, 07:19 PM) a flaw? how would u know? It's not a flaw, just a way to let more students to score better for sejarah.Our teachers and markers of sejarah paper told us about this. Eg : Nyatakan negeri-negeri tidak bersekutu, you can list down all the 13 states and the marker will give marks to the correct answer but he won't deduct mark for the incorrect answers. And for those questions which ask for sebab, proses etc, just write everything related, even not so related also write it down, because the marking scheme is very wide.  But, this is only work for sejarah. This is the truth, not a rumour.  |
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Mar 16 2009, 08:28 PM
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10,672 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: shah alam - skudai - shah alam
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the approach of SPM is gaining marks, not subtracting them.
u give a correct answer, u get a mark. if u dont, it wont be subtracted. u just dont gain any points. if u dont answer and leave the answer empty, u wont gain any points. u start from zero, u gain until a maximum of 100%. right? |
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Mar 16 2009, 08:42 PM
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Nope, this doesn't apply to other subjects.
For science subjects like bio, chemistry and physics, if the question asks for 2 answer only, we can only give 2 answers, 3rd answer will not be accepted and in some cases, our marks will be deducted. |
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Mar 16 2009, 10:17 PM
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i noticed it when my teacher asked us to mark our own model papers.....but when stpm i too panic cuz cant decide which question to do, cuz every question noe half oni, so i blank half of the 3rd essay questions.....den my fren say u shud hv put whatever thing u can think of...den oni i recall....crapz...get an A2 anyway, 8E during trial...giv teacher sepak 99
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Mar 17 2009, 01:31 AM
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during essays,
its better to write down some contohs as well, thats what my teacher told me  |
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Mar 17 2009, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 16 2009, 08:28 PM) the approach of SPM is gaining marks, not subtracting them. That's right, no matter what, just write as much as you can. u give a correct answer, u get a mark. if u dont, it wont be subtracted. u just dont gain any points. if u dont answer and leave the answer empty, u wont gain any points. u start from zero, u gain until a maximum of 100%. right? |
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Mar 17 2009, 04:50 AM
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QUOTE(Visualize @ Mar 16 2009, 06:55 PM) Yes, and don't put offensive words like "Rentap telah dirogol". There's a special penalty for it. really ??I did spam some nonsenses in Sej as I really didnt know the answer QUOTE(khaishin @ Mar 16 2009, 08:42 PM) Nope, this doesn't apply to other subjects. I forgot chemistry marking scheme ..For science subjects like bio, chemistry and physics, if the question asks for 2 answer only, we can only give 2 answers, 3rd answer will not be accepted and in some cases, our marks will be deducted. but for phy...the essay there ...u can write as many as u could, even the 1st 10th answers u given are wrong, u still can get marks on the 11st answer if the 11st answer is correct....just among the answers there, it can't be conflicted to each other .. for eg material Q is lighter than water, material Q can sink in water ... in another words, u can fire as many bullets as u wanted, but u must fire in one direction only |
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Mar 17 2009, 06:49 AM
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I did the same thing for my chemistry,physics,bio and moral(3 answer if 2 marks)
my teacher told me that it would work and well, i'm not sure if it worked lol.. I got an average of A2/B3 in those subjects |
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Mar 17 2009, 08:33 AM
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Basically pls try this only for sejarah,
If u want to take the risk for others... Do it at ur own risk... I was just trying to help SPM 2009 people. |
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Mar 17 2009, 09:26 PM
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635 posts Joined: Oct 2008 From: Malaysia > Singapore
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yeah , that's what i do for my spm.
4 marks answer , i dont know the answer ... in the end i crap out 20 points .. |
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Mar 17 2009, 09:29 PM
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usually what i do in exams is....
write alot of answers for every question...don't care if the answer is correct or wrong...cuz you might forget everything when you're sitting for exam.... just let my teacher find the answers she want... |
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Mar 17 2009, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(MisterCrono @ Mar 17 2009, 09:26 PM) yeah , that's what i do for my spm. Can hit 2 marks already considered as jackpot. Make sure don't leave it blank that's all.4 marks answer , i dont know the answer ... in the end i crap out 20 points .. |
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Mar 17 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(Angel01 @ Mar 16 2009, 04:02 PM) I realised one flaw for sejarah marking is that. Haha, no man, your answers must not be conflicting.1. THEY DO NOT MINUS MARKS FOR WRONG ANSWER. Example The question is only 1 MARK. Lets say they ask What happen to Rentap after james Brooke attacked him. the Answer can be like this.. 1. Rentap telah Dibunuh. Rentap telah dibicara. Rentap telah dibuang Negeri. Rentap telah digantung. Assuming i wrote this in the answer... Assuming Rentap telah dibunuh is correct.. THE Other answer they will read through, AND EVEN though its wrong, they WILL not put wrong and on the other HAND they give you 1 MARK because u have a correct answer there. Rentap Telah Dibunuh. Hence you score 1/1 Mark. At first i didnt believe this. I did this IN SPM 2008 and got A1 for it. At the essay part i didnt know what happen to Dato Patinggi after he diserang and it was a 5 marks question. I put Dato Patinggi telah ditangkap. Dato patinggi telah dibicara. Dato Patinggi telah dihukum. Dato Patinggi telah Dibunuh. Dato Patinggi telah dibuang negeri. AND PLEASE REMEMBER DONT WRITE LIKE THIS Dato Patinggi telah ditangkap,dibunuh,dibicara. WRITE in different sentence. But if you separete them in paragraphs, they will simply strike off the entire paragraph. When I was form 4, the format was 2 points per fact - which was damn easy, throw 20 facts, market pick 5 right one. Then when I was form 5, it was changed to 1 point per fact/example/ellaboration, a little hard And yes, I tried before, one paragraph, on one fact, 2nd para on a totally diff fact Added on March 17, 2009, 9:41 pm QUOTE(khaishin @ Mar 16 2009, 08:42 PM) Nope, this doesn't apply to other subjects. Yes, but did you know, for add mathsFor science subjects like bio, chemistry and physics, if the question asks for 2 answer only, we can only give 2 answers, 3rd answer will not be accepted and in some cases, our marks will be deducted. You can answer the same question few times, and the right one will be accepted, my ex tuition teacher who is a SPM marker told me, but of course conflicting fundamental errors will not be tolerated. This post has been edited by karhoe: Mar 17 2009, 09:41 PM |
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