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Life Sciences The PHARMACY Thread, everything you need to know/ask

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post Jul 4 2009, 11:58 PM

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@weiping2007

we already have plenty out there. refer CALLING ALL MEDICAL STUDENTS! thread if you want.

http://forum.lowyat.net/lofiversion/index.php/t416477.html

@white_black

use google and search for the respective authority in charge of registration of pharmacist. if you plan to work there next time, it is never too early to know what are the steps needed to be a registered pharmacist.

besides, Darkmage12 already give you a rough idea
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post Jul 5 2009, 11:45 AM

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Hi all. There's an article in NST's Learning Curve today (5th July) about IMU's BPharm having credit transfer to Uni of Queensland, Australia (2+2).

I'm working on finding the article online to post it up here. IMU's website hasn't been updated.

UQ is a good university to go to. The only issue is on accreditation and recognition... yet to announce more about that.

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post Jul 5 2009, 12:05 PM

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@baoz - LOL Speaking of Uni of Queensland... UCSI also got credit transfer there liao but I only read that it's for MSc and BSc in Biotech, BSc Food Science. Uni Q wanna dip their hands into as many Malaysian IPTS as possible?? LOL.

@jerk - Yeah I kinda enjoyed it! Although first day was zzzz... Don't be so harsh on el8155 lol I'm sure he/she was just joking. nod.gif I know you're not a real jerk at heart! Heheh.

@el8155 - It's still not too late to apply. Class doesn't start till Tuesday, and we're all ready to help you if you come in a bit late. Just don't come in one month later - tiada maaf bagimu! LOL. brows.gif

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post Jul 5 2009, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 5 2009, 12:05 PM)
@baoz - LOL Speaking of Uni of Queensland... UCSI also got credit transfer there liao but I only read that it's for MSc and BSc in Biotech, BSc Food Science. Uni Q wanna dip their hands into as many Malaysian IPTS as possible?? LOL.

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Yep, they should tap into the Asian market if they wanna keep up especially with the likes of Monash.

I don't think they dare set up a local campus after UNSW went bust in Singapore. So the least they can do is to have tie-ups.

They've got twinning with Taylor's for BioMed Science too. And credit transfer option with HELP's Economics and Commerce degree programs.

Unfortunately for UQ eventhough it's in the Go8 and the best economics school in Aus, it's not a popular choice among students. I don't know why. My batch from SAM all only aimed to enter Uni of Melbourne, UNSW or Uni of Sydney. I was the odd one out who wanted to go to UQ or Monash for Pharmacy.

Still, there aren't many unis in Austalia that offer Pharmacy. Closest to home we have Monash. Now that Queensland is gonna tie up with IMU, it should benefit the locals who can't afford for the full course overseas.

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post Jul 5 2009, 02:42 PM

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hmm.. if that is true, probably ucsi will have a hard time competing with IMU bpharm unless their pharmacy courses is accredited.

pharmacy courses has been blooming like mushroom. how i wish i was born like 2 years later and i get to choose from so many institution.

@goodfella_rocka

nah, my message is, IPTA , yes it is hard to get in pharmacy courses.
for IPTS, as long as you have the money and results, there is no problem securing a place. just look at the number of pharmacy courses in malaysia compared to 2 years ago



one thing about australia pharmacy courses, it is kind of state dependent.
if you graduate from western australia and wish to practice in other place like south australia, it would be harder because the laws and rules are a little different.
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 4 2009, 06:51 PM)
@youngkies - Lol, don't we all? Are you studying or working anyway?

@Dely - Ah cool! We have one senior from KICT! How is life over there as pharmacy student there? How is the campus, lecturers, facilities and everything? biggrin.gif

Anyway I think I'm gonna stay at UCSI. Should I crash and burn I will ask to change course to biotech or food science.
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stress? not until you have worked as a pharmacist, esp. being the pharmacist in charge of a community pharmacy in UK.
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@youngkies - You are officially my hero! LOL I plan to get my Pharmacy degree (if all goes well and my brain cells stick with me), do the government service then try the pre-reg in the UK... anything I call you ok? LOL.. How do you secure a place with the pre-reg anyway? Do you get placed with a community pharmacy anywhere they like? Or do you have to get the job first as a provisionally-licensed pharmacist then you apply for the pre-reg? Help us out here if you can! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 5 2009, 06:13 PM)
@youngkies - You are officially my hero! LOL I plan to get my Pharmacy degree (if all goes well and my brain cells stick with me), do the government service then try the pre-reg in the UK... anything I call you ok? LOL.. How do you secure a place with the pre-reg anyway? Do you get placed with a community pharmacy anywhere they like? Or do you have to get the job first as a provisionally-licensed pharmacist then you apply for the pre-reg? Help us out here if you can! icon_rolleyes.gif
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ya, do ask / PM me if you have any query.

government service in msia you mean? if you are fully qualified pharmacist in uk, you can skip the provisional year in msia, but you have the pass the provisional pharmacist exam in msia, to skip the prp year.

pre-reg places application starts in august before the students start their final year. So most students can get pre-reg places offered even way before they graduated.

location is based on availability. of course spaces in good cities are more competitive compared to places where no one want to go. you can choose, but you will not be guaranteed based on your first choice, it depends on your competences.


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post Jul 5 2009, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(cynthia_tss @ Jul 2 2009, 03:01 AM)
honest opinion : the course will train, shape, and forced u into a good pharmacist. but before u became one, u may need to undergo sum terrible process such as endless reports, long n boring lecture, quizzes.. exams.. etc.. and certain killer subjects can kill up to half of the class each time... 

first batch is out, i am great i am one of them.. ahem... smile.gif with the initial 60 ++ students, left with 36 graduate peacefully ... so what  say u ? good or bad ?

for me it is good.  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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oh cool..

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QUOTE(rockmylife89 @ Jul 5 2009, 09:31 PM)
Cynthia..may i know how is the course of pharmacy?is it like physics  and maths which require a lot of twist and turn ...or like biology requires a lot of memorising work? How to ensure we can score?and what is the main reason the students will fail?Is it because they lazy to memorize or they r not good in twist and turn the knowledge? I can be very hardworking..i m juz afraid that the success depends on talent ..which means even i am hardworking..but i cannot be guaranteed to score juz because i am not smart enough to turn like in maths and physics..can u pls reply me as soon as possible?thank you very much..
   currently i am planning to take the foundation in mahsa or masterskill..i did my stpm already..but my chemistry doesnt meet their minimum requirement..mahsa and masterskill ask me to take foundation in their college...mahsa and masterskill ...which one is better in pharmacy degree?masterskill already have their 4+0 la trobe degree...now is the second year..although they said the syllabus and books are from la trobe..but i think the lecturers are the same people who r teaching the pharmacy diploma students in masterskill ...so..r the lecturers qualified enough to teach the degree students?then about the mahsa..they said they will have pharmacy degree starting this september...they said if i want..i have to take foundation ..same as the masterskilll....but they r u not in colloboration with any other foreign universtiy like masterskill...and i think they also use the lecturers teaching diploma in mahsa themselves..so..i really confused now..can u pls teach me how to do now? thank you very much..pls reply me as soon as possible..they already start their foundation course now.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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my frn who also very like pharmacy alot but didnt meet the requirement.. he got C in chem for stpm.. every U and college rejected him but only segi master in pharmacy accept him.. just go there if u got money..

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@jerk.. thanks a lot ya..


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QUOTE(rockmylife89 @ Jul 5 2009, 09:31 PM)
Cynthia..may i know how is the course of pharmacy?is it like physics  and maths which require a lot of twist and turn ...or like biology requires a lot of memorising work? How to ensure we can score?and what is the main reason the students will fail?Is it because they lazy to memorize or they r not good in twist and turn the knowledge? I can be very hardworking..i m juz afraid that the success depends on talent ..which means even i am hardworking..but i cannot be guaranteed to score juz because i am not smart enough to turn like in maths and physics..can u pls reply me as soon as possible?thank you very much..
  currently i am planning to take the foundation in mahsa or masterskill..i did my stpm already..but my chemistry doesnt meet their minimum requirement..mahsa and masterskill ask me to take foundation in their college...mahsa and masterskill ...which one is better in pharmacy degree?masterskill already have their 4+0 la trobe degree...now is the second year..although they said the syllabus and books are from la trobe..but i think the lecturers are the same people who r teaching the pharmacy diploma students in masterskill ...so..r the lecturers qualified enough to teach the degree students?then about the mahsa..they said they will have pharmacy degree starting this september...they said if i want..i have to take foundation ..same as the masterskilll....but they r u not in colloboration with any other foreign universtiy like masterskill...and i think they also use the lecturers teaching diploma in mahsa themselves..so..i really confused now..can u pls teach me how to do now? thank you very much..pls reply me as soon as possible..they already start their foundation course now.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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it is more to biology. it ain't a really easy course too. plenty of coursework, writing, reading, assignments, lab work etc etc.

though it varies between schools too.


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@el8155 - Eh she took STPM ady la... why would she want to take A-Levels again, which is so inferior to STPM flex.gif Better for rockmylife89 to take foundation in AIMST and continue Pharmacy there, or take UCSI's foundation in Science is oso ok I think... hmm.gif Or she can join you in Masterskill lo.. hahaha

@youngkies - So that means, after I complete my provisional year and (if) I pass the provisional exam to become fully registered pharmacist in Malaysia, then after I serve another 3 years as a fully registered pharmacist, then if I apply for pre-reg, I am allowed to skip the pre-reg year and straight do the pre-reg exam? Or can I apply for pre-reg straight in my 3rd or final year of studies, but do the pre-reg year then followed by the pre-reg exam? In this case since UCSI is far from being on RGSGB's recognition list I think it's not applicable... hehe... Sorry if I muddled things up! doh.gif
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@rockmylife89

if you can afford, go for SAM or express A level.

if not, you dont really have much choice other than masterskill


Added on July 6, 2009, 12:16 amthe reason is simple, because she didnt meet the minimum requirement. UCSI foundation is not accepted. after all, foundation or A level they still took a year. so it doesnt matter if financial is not a limiting factor.

el8155 is suggesting that rockmylife89 go inquire about Segi.

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@jerk - Whoops, I think I let my reply page stand too long... hence miss out some key developments. My bad... tongue.gif SAM is also and ok option, if, like you said, finance is not a limiting factor. Segi is quite ok also. I say go for it.
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it surprises me now to realise that there are so many pharmacy schools to choose from. I still remember a few years ago when I was choosing which uni to go to, and didn't have that many options.

while it is good that more students are interested in this field and are able to choose and enter into the increasing number of pharmacy schools available, the sudden bloom in the number of pharmacy schools is bothering when the quality is concerned.. especially since pharmacy is such a critical course..

hopefully the quality is at least assured, prior to the introduction of this course in those unis..
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 6 2009, 12:12 AM)
@el8155 - Eh she took STPM ady la... why would she want to take A-Levels again, which is so inferior to STPM flex.gif Better for rockmylife89 to take foundation in AIMST and continue Pharmacy there, or take UCSI's foundation in Science is oso ok I think...  hmm.gif  Or she can join you in Masterskill lo.. hahaha

@youngkies - So that means, after I complete my provisional year and (if) I pass the provisional exam to become fully registered pharmacist in Malaysia, then after I serve another 3 years as a fully registered pharmacist, then if I apply for pre-reg, I am allowed to skip the pre-reg year and straight do the pre-reg exam? Or can I apply for pre-reg straight in my 3rd or final year of studies, but do the pre-reg year then followed by the pre-reg exam? In this case since UCSI is far from being on RGSGB's recognition list I think it's not applicable... hehe... Sorry if I muddled things up!  doh.gif
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oh no. if you are coming into UK as overseas pharmacist, you have to sit for the pre-reg year and exam.

what i mean is that you can skip Msia PRP year if you are UK registered pharmacist, but not vice-versa. after all, there is no term as provisional pharmacist in UK too.

nope, unless your uni is fully accredited by rpgsb in UK.
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QUOTE(rockmylife89 @ Jul 5 2009, 09:31 PM)
Cynthia..may i know how is the course of pharmacy?is it like physics  and maths which require a lot of twist and turn ...or like biology requires a lot of memorising work? How to ensure we can score?and what is the main reason the students will fail?Is it because they lazy to memorize or they r not good in twist and turn the knowledge? I can be very hardworking..i m juz afraid that the success depends on talent ..which means even i am hardworking..but i cannot be guaranteed to score juz because i am not smart enough to turn like in maths and physics..can u pls reply me as soon as possible?thank you very much..
  currently i am planning to take the foundation in mahsa or masterskill..i did my stpm already..but my chemistry doesnt meet their minimum requirement..mahsa and masterskill ask me to take foundation in their college...mahsa and masterskill ...which one is better in pharmacy degree?masterskill already have their 4+0 la trobe degree...now is the second year..although they said the syllabus and books are from la trobe..but i think the lecturers are the same people who r teaching the pharmacy diploma students in masterskill ...so..r the lecturers qualified enough to teach the degree students?then about the mahsa..they said they will have pharmacy degree starting this september...they said if i want..i have to take foundation ..same as the masterskilll....but they r u not in colloboration with any other foreign universtiy like masterskill...and i think they also use the lecturers teaching diploma in mahsa themselves..so..i really confused now..can u pls teach me how to do now? thank you very much..pls reply me as soon as possible..they already start their foundation course now.. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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hmm... it is a mixture i would say.. not purely chem or bio. or maths.. u learn thing like physiology , sumthing related to biology, medicinal chemistry, related to chem, and pharmacology.... u need some maths for subjects like dispensing n compounding n biostatistic, pharmacokinetic. u hav subjects other than bio or chem, or maths.. u know things like management, communication skill, clinical pharmacy, pharmaconosy, etc..

so, it is more than chem or bio... but u can find chem n bio within the course.. n sum maths as well..

i remember what my head of school of pharm told me, to graduate, u need 3 things,

1st, u must have interest and desire to be a pharmacist,
secondly u must have determination and not to give up
and lastly u must work hard to achieve ur goal.

therefore i think work hard alone is not enough, u need to have determination and desire plus interest.

i am not sure abt mahsa n the lecturers there... in my school, all lecturers need to have phd... or at least master in clinical pharmacy ..

u ask if the lecturers are qualified to teach pharm degree students, i think u should check back the lecturers profile through ur uni record office or any related department.

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@youngkies - Thanks for clearing that up! biggrin.gif

This might sound juvenile but... what kind of calculator is suitable for the course? I heard that we're not allowed to use calculator... That can't be true right? Ahehe..he...?
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QUOTE(goodfella_rocka @ Jul 6 2009, 09:15 AM)

This might sound juvenile but... what kind of calculator is suitable for the course? I heard that we're not allowed to use calculator... That can't be true right? Ahehe..he...?
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Just a regular scientific calculator that you use in secondary school.

You'll still be doing basic calculations; log and ln.

No graphing calculators allowed, though.

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