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Some unpleasant news.

iPhone firmware 2.2 reportedly locking unlocked iPhones

Other than your usual SIM card unlock the only place to get an officially unlocked iPhone is through Hong Kong and parts of Europe.  Unfortunately for those who spent untold amounts of money to get an unlocked iPhone 3G, it may all be in vain. The new iPhone firmware 2.2 is reportedly re-locking those iPhones.

Users in the Apple support forums are saying that if you purchase a legally unlocked iPhone and then updated it in another country the device may become locked. “I bought my iPhone 3G legally unlocked from HK, and I just upgraded to iPhone 2.2, but it seems my phone is locked now. On the phone it says emergency calls only and iTunes is saying not supported SIM.”

If you have an unlocked iPhone and have not yet upgraded to the iPhone firmware 2.2 we suggest holding off just in case this ends up being true. You don’t want all that hard earned cash going for nothing. If you simply can’t wait for the update, try getting your hands on the update from the country your iPhone came from.
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I don't like how Apple is turning sneaky like this. It's very unfortunate.

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QUOTE(Maverick Wil @ Dec 3 2008, 04:35 PM)
shocking.gif  shakehead.gif

I don't like how Apple is turning sneaky like this. It's very unfortunate.
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Indeed it is...not sure if JailBreaking the phone will affect the 3G locking process as Quickpwn requires the phone to be upgraded first to Fw 2.2 upon Jailbreaking. Pretty risky i must say.


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Top 10 Paid and Free Apps

Apple has recently pushed out over 10,000 applications and as 2008 comes to a close they have compiled the top ten downloaded applications in each category. The first round of applications consist of both the free and paid most frequently downloaded applications in the App Store’s history. After which you will see the top ten in each category.

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QUOTE(Maverick Wil @ Dec 3 2008, 04:35 PM)
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I don't like how Apple is turning sneaky like this. It's very unfortunate.
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huh?
fw2.2 will lock un-locked iphone? like that almost 80% of LYN forumer's iphone will locked?
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if unlocked u will see all of us complained...
it seem only happen to hong kong's set?
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not yet finish reading ur post i tot sing tel unit reporting sumthing is wrong jor... phew.. lucky @ the end is I'm GOod
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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Dec 3 2008, 03:51 PM)
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Some unpleasant news.

iPhone firmware 2.2 reportedly locking unlocked iPhones

Other than your usual SIM card unlock the only place to get an officially unlocked iPhone is through Hong Kong and parts of Europe.  Unfortunately for those who spent untold amounts of money to get an unlocked iPhone 3G, it may all be in vain. The new iPhone firmware 2.2 is reportedly re-locking those iPhones.

Users in the Apple support forums are saying that if you purchase a legally unlocked iPhone and then updated it in another country the device may become locked. “I bought my iPhone 3G legally unlocked from HK, and I just upgraded to iPhone 2.2, but it seems my phone is locked now. On the phone it says emergency calls only and iTunes is saying not supported SIM.”

If you have an unlocked iPhone and have not yet upgraded to the iPhone firmware 2.2 we suggest holding off just in case this ends up being true. You don’t want all that hard earned cash going for nothing. If you simply can’t wait for the update, try getting your hands on the update from the country your iPhone came from.
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this will happen to those who thought their iPhone 3G is so called "legally unlock" from Hong Kong, and in actual fact, it is those locked iPhone with turbosim implanted in them and sell them as "legally unlock iPhone" (as indicated by their iPhone model in the very same thread).

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Nice work detective... psyeo...you should change that title to Apple CoverT instead of Apple ConverT now. wink.gif

I didn't go and check out your theory though. In fact I remember there were units from a few different countries apart from HK that were affected too. But hey...Turbosim is possible..
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QUOTE(Maverick Wil @ Dec 3 2008, 11:27 PM)
Nice work detective... psyeo...you should change that title to Apple CoverT instead of Apple ConverT now. wink.gif

I didn't go and check out your theory though. In fact I remember there were units from a few different countries apart from HK that were affected too. But hey...Turbosim is possible..
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haha, in that Apple support thread, I think I saw models from US and Canada claiming to be the legally unlock HK/AUS/Italy set. There is only 1 person who complaint in that thread about his AUS legally unlock phone problems, which is not related to locking at all smile.gif
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Free Apps

Amazon.com, Inc. today announced its Amazon application for iPhone and iPod touch is now available on the Apple App Store. The Amazon app offers an easy way for users to search and browse for products offered by Amazon and thousands of retailers like Target and Macy’s, access Amazon’s popular shopping features such as Customer Reviews, and purchase using 1-Click Shopping and Amazon Prime.

The Amazon app for iPhone and iPod touch includes an experimental feature called “Amazon Remembers”. Amazon Remembers helps customers keep track of items they see in their daily lives and even tries to match photos of products to the same or similar products available on Amazon.com. Customers simply snap photos with their iPhone, the photos are automatically uploaded to Amazon.com, which then tries to find products similar to the ones in the photos. As soon as the customer receives the results, they can then purchase the item immediately or “remember it” for later in their Amazon account.

“We designed the Amazon app to be a quick and easy way for iPhone and iPod touch users to shop, browse, and buy with Amazon.com," said Sam Hall, director of Amazon Mobile. "We're also really excited about Amazon Remembers because it's a fun and useful way to use the iPhone camera to find and remember items while on-the-go. Customers can build visual lists of things they want to remember, buy, or even learn more about."

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Vlingo Voice Enablement iPhone Application

Vlingo Corporation today announced availability of its vlingo for iPhone application on the Apple App Store. This voice-powered application eliminates the need for typing and gives users the ability to dial their contacts, search the Web, access Google Maps, and send status updates for Facebook and Twitter with the power of voice.

"The iPhone offers an innovative multi-touch user interface that is fundamentally transforming the wireless industry," said Dave Grannan, CEO of vlingo. "We're proud to debut our breakthrough voice recognition technology on iPhone, taking simplicity one step further by reducing much of the reliance on typing, making mobile data and applications easier to find and use."

Vlingo for iPhone works across multiple applications on the iPhone. It gives users access to the most commonly used features by using voice, including:

-- PHONE. Initiate calls to anyone in your address book.

-- SEARCH. Look up anything through Yahoo! or Google in one step. Just say, "Web search: concert tickets in Boston," and the results are displayed.

-- MAPS. Look up and map local listings. For example, by saying, "Find Italian restaurants in San Francisco," vlingo will show choices and can populate Google Maps with the touch of a button.

-- SOCIAL. Users can send Facebook and Twitter status updates without typing. Vlingo also automatically embeds a Web browser so users can easily access the mobile versions of Facebook and Twitter to keep track of their friends' updates.

Vlingo gives iPhone users easy access to mobile information with the power of voice. Users do not need to change how they speak or memorize a list of commands so they can say what they want, how they want, and vlingo captures the results - word for word. Vlingo's breakthrough speech recognition technology provides users with a simple way to access almost anything on their handsets. With the most accurate system on the market that gets even better as more users join the community, vlingo gives users the ability to freely mix typing and talking with no limits on what they can say to command the device.

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Interview With A Dev Team Member

This interview was featured on AppleBlog.Blog.hu and was sent in and translated by Hungarian reader panicradio. It is extremely rare that Dev Team members give interviews, and while this is not MuscleNerd, or PlanetBeing speaking here, it’s always nice to have an insight on what these guys do and how they do it.

First of all congrats for the job you did so far, but I think you already know that half of the world is supporting you!
Thanks! Me and my wife read your blog, and after you wrote about the Dev Team, we thought it would be a good idea to find you. Your blog is the first hungarian language blog or newsportal we communicate to directly.
Special thanks for that. Let’s start with who the members of the Dev Team (no names of course) are, and how you organize your work since you are living in different countries, continents.
Members of the Dev Team are software, electronics and cryptographics professionals from all over the world. The members of the team - or much more, the core - are from Hungary, France, Belgium, England, Russia, Israel, Ukraine and the USA. We work in a way, that we distribute our work files among us, and with team work, we put the ideas together. The average age is about 30 years old. Most of us don’t know each others name and never met each other.
How many are you?
Everyone has a full time job - and of course this has influence on the Dev Team’s work, but usually there are 15 active members working on the job at the same time.
How do you organize, where does the idea come from to hack the iPhone, and why did you set it up?
We are high tech enthusiasts and hackers… hackers in a good way. We like to crack things and see how they work. Most of us have worked with UNIX and OS X for a long time. Few of us knew the others from there, and other professionals have joined later, those whose work we appreciate a lot.
Do you get any threats or “feedback” from Apple? Did you have any contact with the company?
Apple never made contact with us. We make sure we never break the law when we release a new software. PwnageTool and QuickPwn are very complicated, because these softwares remove the necessary parts from Apple’s firmware. We NEVER release pirated softwares.
How much time do you spend on the crack, and other iPhone-related works?
We are working on it 24 hours a day. While one of us are working on it, others are sleeping, and we continually switch. IRC is running in the background all the time, even when we are working onour private jobs, so we have worked on the iPhone thousands of hours. I have to mention, that we spend a lot of money on special hardware and reverse engineering softwares, also from our own money.
Do you get any donation, do you make any profit out of the huge work you made anyway?
We finance everything with our own money. Most of the team has a good job that pays good money in the IT field. The Dev Team is our hobby and although it is very time consuming, yet it still is a hobby. We didn’t take money from anyone!
How many people cracked their iPhones with your program? Do you have any idea how much iPhone users freed their phones?
We have more than hundred thousand recurrent PwnageTool and QuickPwn users. It is hard to estimate how many exactly, but a lot.
Why it is so hard to unlock the iPhone 3G? What is the main difference between 2G and 3G that has prevented the unlock so far?
Apple and Infineon made a very serious work and made almost impossible to unlock the iPhone 3G. They learned from what we did with 2G and made the 3G much more safer.
How far are you from suceeding with the unlock?
This is secret of course.
How deep was the 2.2 baseband update? If you want to make a sim-unlock on this as well, do you have to start the job from scratch? So, if someone accidently updated the baseband, does he have to give up, or does he still have a chance to unlock his phone?
At the moment the exploits we used to run our codes on 2.1 and older basebands has been removed from 2.2. 2.2 closed the security breach we used to control the baseband as we wanted and at the moment 2.2 baseband is bad.
What do you mean “bad”?
In 2.2 baseband there is no such an exploit we can use, so it is bad :-).
What do you think about the sofware and hardware of the iPhone 3G compared to other smartphones?
The iPhone OS is very advanced technology. It is years ahead of everything you can buy on the market at the moment. And yes, I am an Apple fan, but nobody can deny that iPhone is almost futuristic. T-Mobile’s G1 is the second best device after iPhone, but it is still behind 18 months at least I think.
Why do these two devices have advantage over others?
The iPhone OS is based on UNIX/Mach operating system, and both UNIX and Mach is a result of many years of developement. G1 is using Linux, which has a similar story. Fortunately nowadays mobile processors are powerful enough to use UNIX.
What kind of deficiency does the iPhone OS have, and in which direction would you develop it, if it depended on you?
It would need to be more open.
Why and for who do you do your work?
First of all for myself, for us, and for the people who prefer an unlocked phone. We bought a flat in Budapest with my wife, and the agent does not come to our home every week to check if we had painted the walls red, does he? The situation is similar with the IPhone and other devices we buy as well.
What do you do on week days?
We work and play. We have a very special Hungarian Vizsla (deerhound), he keeps us busy all the time.
Why did you choose a pineapple as your logo?
Apple/Pinapple, Pwn/Own, PwnApple (Pwning Apple)

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Dec 4 2008, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Dec 4 2008, 10:19 AM)
Interview With A Dev Team Member

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Do you get any threats or “feedback” from Apple? Did you have any contact with the company?
Apple never made contact with us. We make sure we never break the law when we release a new software. PwnageTool and QuickPwn are very complicated, because these softwares remove the necessary parts from Apple’s firmware. We NEVER release pirated softwares.

How much time do you spend on the crack, and other iPhone-related works?
We are working on it 24 hours a day. While one of us are working on it, others are sleeping, and we continually switch. IRC is running in the background all the time, even when we are working onour private jobs, so we have worked on the iPhone thousands of hours. I have to mention, that we spend a lot of money on special hardware and reverse engineering softwares, also from our own money.
Do you get any donation, do you make any profit out of the huge work you made anyway?
We finance everything with our own money. Most of the team has a good job that pays good money in the IT field. The Dev Team is our hobby and although it is very time consuming, yet it still is a hobby. We didn’t take money from anyone!
How many people cracked their iPhones with your program? Do you have any idea how much iPhone users freed their phones?
We have more than hundred thousand recurrent PwnageTool and QuickPwn users. It is hard to estimate how many exactly, but a lot.
Why it is so hard to unlock the iPhone 3G? What is the main difference between 2G and 3G that has prevented the unlock so far?
Apple and Infineon made a very serious work and made almost impossible to unlock the iPhone 3G. They learned from what we did with 2G and made the 3G much more safer.
How far are you from suceeding with the unlock?
This is secret of course.
How deep was the 2.2 baseband update? If you want to make a sim-unlock on this as well, do you have to start the job from scratch? So, if someone accidently updated the baseband, does he have to give up, or does he still have a chance to unlock his phone?
At the moment the exploits we used to run our codes on 2.1 and older basebands has been removed from 2.2. 2.2 closed the security breach we used to control the baseband as we wanted and at the moment 2.2 baseband is bad.
What do you mean “bad”?
In 2.2 baseband there is no such an exploit we can use, so it is bad :-).
What do you think about the sofware and hardware of the iPhone 3G compared to other smartphones?
The iPhone OS is very advanced technology. It is years ahead of everything you can buy on the market at the moment. And yes, I am an Apple fan, but nobody can deny that iPhone is almost futuristic. T-Mobile’s G1 is the second best device after iPhone, but it is still behind 18 months at least I think.
Why do these two devices have advantage over others?
The iPhone OS is based on UNIX/Mach operating system, and both UNIX and Mach is a result of many years of developement. G1 is using Linux, which has a similar story. Fortunately nowadays mobile processors are powerful enough to use UNIX.
What kind of deficiency does the iPhone OS have, and in which direction would you develop it, if it depended on you?
It would need to be more open.
Why and for who do you do your work?
First of all for myself, for us, and for the people who prefer an unlocked phone. We bought a flat in Budapest with my wife, and the agent does not come to our home every week to check if we had painted the walls red, does he? The situation is similar with the IPhone and other devices we buy as well.
What do you do on week days?
We work and play. We have a very special Hungarian Vizsla (deerhound), he keeps us busy all the time.
Why did you choose a pineapple as your logo?
Apple/Pinapple, Pwn/Own, PwnApple (Pwning Apple)
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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Dec 4 2008, 11:19 AM)
Interview With A Dev Team Member

This interview was featured on AppleBlog.Blog.hu and was sent in and translated by Hungarian reader panicradio. It is extremely rare that Dev Team members give interviews, and while this is not MuscleNerd, or PlanetBeing speaking here, it’s always nice to have an insight on what these guys do and how they do it.

First of all congrats for the job you did so far, but I think you already know that half of the world is supporting you!
Thanks! Me and my wife read your blog, and after you wrote about the Dev Team, we thought it would be a good idea to find you. Your blog is the first hungarian language blog or newsportal we communicate to directly.
Special thanks for that. Let’s start with who the members of the Dev Team (no names of course) are, and how you organize your work since you are living in different countries, continents.
Members of the Dev Team are software, electronics and cryptographics professionals from all over the world. The members of the team - or much more, the core - are from Hungary, France, Belgium, England, Russia, Israel, Ukraine and the USA. We work in a way, that we distribute our work files among us, and with team work, we put the ideas together. The average age is about 30 years old. Most of us don’t know each others name and never met each other.
How many are you?
Everyone has a full time job - and of course this has influence on the Dev Team’s work, but usually there are 15 active members working on the job at the same time.
How do you organize, where does the idea come from to hack the iPhone, and why did you set it up?
We are high tech enthusiasts and hackers… hackers in a good way. We like to crack things and see how they work. Most of us have worked with UNIX and OS X for a long time. Few of us knew the others from there, and other professionals have joined later, those whose work we appreciate a lot.
Do you get any threats or “feedback” from Apple? Did you have any contact with the company?
Apple never made contact with us. We make sure we never break the law when we release a new software. PwnageTool and QuickPwn are very complicated, because these softwares remove the necessary parts from Apple’s firmware. We NEVER release pirated softwares.
How much time do you spend on the crack, and other iPhone-related works?
We are working on it 24 hours a day. While one of us are working on it, others are sleeping, and we continually switch. IRC is running in the background all the time, even when we are working onour private jobs, so we have worked on the iPhone thousands of hours. I have to mention, that we spend a lot of money on special hardware and reverse engineering softwares, also from our own money.
Do you get any donation, do you make any profit out of the huge work you made anyway?
We finance everything with our own money. Most of the team has a good job that pays good money in the IT field. The Dev Team is our hobby and although it is very time consuming, yet it still is a hobby. We didn’t take money from anyone!
How many people cracked their iPhones with your program? Do you have any idea how much iPhone users freed their phones?
We have more than hundred thousand recurrent PwnageTool and QuickPwn users. It is hard to estimate how many exactly, but a lot.
Why it is so hard to unlock the iPhone 3G? What is the main difference between 2G and 3G that has prevented the unlock so far?
Apple and Infineon made a very serious work and made almost impossible to unlock the iPhone 3G. They learned from what we did with 2G and made the 3G much more safer.
How far are you from suceeding with the unlock?
This is secret of course.
How deep was the 2.2 baseband update? If you want to make a sim-unlock on this as well, do you have to start the job from scratch? So, if someone accidently updated the baseband, does he have to give up, or does he still have a chance to unlock his phone?
At the moment the exploits we used to run our codes on 2.1 and older basebands has been removed from 2.2. 2.2 closed the security breach we used to control the baseband as we wanted and at the moment 2.2 baseband is bad.
What do you mean “bad”?
In 2.2 baseband there is no such an exploit we can use, so it is bad :-).
What do you think about the sofware and hardware of the iPhone 3G compared to other smartphones?
The iPhone OS is very advanced technology. It is years ahead of everything you can buy on the market at the moment. And yes, I am an Apple fan, but nobody can deny that iPhone is almost futuristic. T-Mobile’s G1 is the second best device after iPhone, but it is still behind 18 months at least I think.
Why do these two devices have advantage over others?
The iPhone OS is based on UNIX/Mach operating system, and both UNIX and Mach is a result of many years of developement. G1 is using Linux, which has a similar story. Fortunately nowadays mobile processors are powerful enough to use UNIX.
What kind of deficiency does the iPhone OS have, and in which direction would you develop it, if it depended on you?
It would need to be more open.
Why and for who do you do your work?
First of all for myself, for us, and for the people who prefer an unlocked phone. We bought a flat in Budapest with my wife, and the agent does not come to our home every week to check if we had painted the walls red, does he? The situation is similar with the IPhone and other devices we buy as well.
What do you do on week days?
We work and play. We have a very special Hungarian Vizsla (deerhound), he keeps us busy all the time.
Why did you choose a pineapple as your logo?
Apple/Pinapple, Pwn/Own, PwnApple (Pwning Apple)
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QUOTE(psyeo @ Dec 3 2008, 11:02 PM)
this will happen to those who thought their iPhone 3G is so called "legally unlock" from Hong Kong, and in actual fact, it is those locked iPhone with turbosim implanted in them and sell them as "legally unlock iPhone" (as indicated by their iPhone model in the very same thread).
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I saw a post in the links posted, it sorta tells you if your Iphone 3G is using some sorta sim-hack tools.

QUOTE(taken from the apple support post)
It seems this may not be an Apple Problem. My legally Factory unlocked phone may not be so legal so I have discovered. My phone hardware may have been modified similar to the ones that use a sim card modifier. When the baseband (modem firmware in Settings>General>About) is updated along with 2.2 then it stops the hack from working. Going back to 2.1 doesn't take the Baseband back.

To check if yours is a fake factory unlock see the settings page and the items should be Airplane Mode, WiFi, Carrier and Fetch New Data. In the fake ones "Carrier" is missing. .....mine's missing. If you have a fake one and didn't upgrade to 2.2, then don't, ever.
I hope this helps not just only newbies like me. Sorry if this is a re-post from somewhere, or in the wrong post. sweat.gif

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update on my battery,
yesterday after full charge from a flat battery, i left it from 2 am till morning, half the battery gone, wen i check usage, standby was abt 6 hours, usage was 2 hours +.... is this common?

so i plug in and charge for abt another 30 minutes b4 i left for work

gmail, yahoo account, close,location off
this morming some 3G up load n wifi usage, till now, 30-50 % batt gone
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Dec 4 2008, 12:00 PM)
update on my battery,
yesterday after full charge from a flat battery, i left it from 2 am till morning, half the battery gone, wen i check usage, standby was abt 6 hours, usage was 2 hours +.... is this common?

so i plug in and charge for abt another 30 minutes b4 i left for work

gmail, yahoo account, close,location off
this morming some 3G up load n wifi usage, till now, 30-50 % batt gone
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"Standby was abt 6 hours, usage was 2 hours +"

Looks like you have some application running on background. You may need to find which app is causing the batt drain.

Mines is standby 20hrs 35 mins and usage 1hr 42 mins, full-charged 5pm yesterday. I still have 85% of batt left.

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On Interview With A Dev Team Member.

Nice one.

I liked the one where they interviewed Woz. Hehe...I bet he's worked on the Dev Team before.
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post Dec 4 2008, 03:00 PM

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bro david... i also dunno how to find out... i think only way is open all apps then hold 5 seconds on home button?

seems like restarting doesnt help

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