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post Apr 29 2009, 11:04 AM

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haha..agree, starting she will come blindly, few times she kena then she become alert. my mama always tease her , tell wan 'chong leong for you ya'(*take bath in Cantonese), now when she heard 'chong leong', she will run away !haha.. sweat.gif

and when we call her over and we holding something(except food), she will either starred at us from far away or run away, scare we will fool her like what my brother alwyas did to her flex.gif
last time want to measure her size also very hard, she scare we use the measure tape to tie her blush.gif
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post Apr 29 2009, 11:48 AM

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LOLL! Too smart ady sometimes...tongue.gif Cannot help but laugh at their antics, but at the same time that's what makes them adorable! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2009, 11:53 AM

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Ya why ah?? I thought dogs like water unlike cats???!! Oh my puppy like to "kuen" and very fast one....

And she has no concept of heights....she actually jump from my fren's arms while she was sitting on the sofa...and my heart kinda dropped!!! She went splat on the floor.... pick herself up and terrorise the adult MS!
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post Apr 29 2009, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(thedancingsun @ Apr 29 2009, 11:53 AM)
Ya why ah?? I thought dogs like water unlike cats???!!  Oh my puppy like to "kuen" and very fast one.... 

And she has no concept of heights....she actually jump from my fren's arms while she was sitting on the sofa...and my heart kinda dropped!!!  She went splat on the floor.... pick herself up and terrorise the adult MS!
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what do u meant 'kuen'? hmm.gif
wa, ur puppy still very small right?
i think when they are young, they really 'sky not scare land not scare'(haha...mena scare nothing at all)
when getting older will be more mature nod.gif

the other day something happened and we laught like hell

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my house have this kind of chair, and when we sit on the 2seats chairs, we will call Carrie jump on.
normally she she jump on from the yellow line, that day dunno why she jump on the pink line!
the space was kinda small and you know, Carrie is not really 'mini' in d size shakehead.gif
juz within a second and i dun even have time to stop her
POK!!!!!!!!
she hit the armrest and fall on the floor.
when i quickly pick her up, she was unconscious for 2-3 seconds(eye opened), after tat , she continue walk here and there likes nothing happened !!
than my brother told me she tried this few days passed and was successfully she can get through, but this time big hit on her head doh.gif

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post Apr 29 2009, 02:26 PM

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lolz...y carrie so cute ge? wen daisy at my hometown she oso do da same thing...sumtime wil hit her head oso but then she *not sked die*...sigh
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post Apr 29 2009, 02:28 PM

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"kuen" as in cantonese......i dun know wat's the word for it in English, but meaning is trying to squeeze thru any possible holes.

This is the 180 degree change from when I first bought her home. I can put her in a carton box while I clean her cage, no problem! I can put a plastic stool over her (those with the parameter plastic around the stool) and she won't move from that space.

The other day, I blocked her in the toilet with a home wooden ladder cum stool type and before I knew it, she's out of the toilet exploring my guest room!! Arrghh.....

I put her in the carton box, she overturn the box and was out....and she likes to hide behind my back. So I have to find a higher box to contains her.

Also, I think she got "serious" problem, she thinks she's a rabbit. She doesn't walk but hops around. She hops around my apartment following me around. The only time she'll not hop is when I put a leash on her and she will resist! Refused to budged!!!!
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post Apr 29 2009, 02:46 PM

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omg... so cutez lor carrie... just like my fatty.. but dunno why today Fatty squirming in pain. Might send her to doctor if problem persist.
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QUOTE(kerrie @ Apr 28 2009, 03:41 PM)
i oso wish to bring them walk around da shopping mall but my Happy wil bark all da time. Those malay ppl sure wil complain wan...
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sweat.gif mine shake like earthquake everyone ask whats wrong...she is actually shy doh.gif
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[quote=thedancingsun,Apr 29 2009, 02:28 PM]"kuen" as in cantonese......i dun know wat's the word for it in English, but meaning is trying to squeeze thru any possible holes.

This is the 180 degree change from when I first bought her home.  I can put her in a carton box while I clean her cage, no problem! I can put a plastic stool over her (those with the parameter plastic around the stool) and she won't move from that space. 

The other day, I blocked her in the toilet with a home wooden ladder cum stool type and before I knew it, she's out of the toilet exploring my guest room!!  Arrghh.....

I put her in the carton box, she overturn the box and was out....and she likes to hide behind my back.  So I have to find a higher box to contains her.

Also, I think she got "serious" problem, she thinks she's a rabbit.  She doesn't walk but hops around.  She hops around my apartment following me around.  The only time she'll not hop is when I put a leash on her and she will resist!  Refused to budged!!!!
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haha,last time got 1 owner said his/her pup oso like to 'kuen'(drill) into the hole in between 2sofa and show the buttock outside. then he/she block the hole by using pillow, hahaha..


Added on April 29, 2009, 4:23 pm[quote=kerrie,Apr 29 2009, 02:26 PM]
lolz...y carrie so cute ge? wen daisy at my hometown she oso do da same thing...sumtime wil hit her head oso but then she *not sked die*...sigh
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haha.. but sometime i cannot tahan when she act so proud to me, especially when i call her,but she dun bother me.or ask her jump on my bed/sofa, she dun bother me. but for sure she will 100% entertain my bf sleep.gif'''''' bcos my bf always give snack to her blink.gif


Added on April 29, 2009, 4:26 pm[quote=ericyong,Apr 29 2009, 02:46 PM]
omg... so cutez lor carrie... just like my fatty.. but dunno why today Fatty squirming in pain. Might send her to doctor if problem persist.
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since when this happened to her? got appetite to eat and got poo o not?


Added on April 29, 2009, 4:29 pm[quote=kerrie,Apr 28 2009, 03:41 PM]
i oso wish to bring them walk around da shopping mall but my Happy wil bark all da time. Those malay ppl sure wil complain wan...
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Carrie will bark those darker skin ppl only, haha...skin discrimination ..
last time bring her to Melacca night market , we oso be careful not to let her connect to Malay.
my bro said, his friend(Malay) told him for those not really pantang Malays, they can touch and sayang dog, but make sure not kena dog saliva only



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post Apr 29 2009, 05:05 PM

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Hi ms lovers, My wife is looking forward to get a ms as a pet. i am looking for really small ms since we are living in a 850sqf apartment. I do have a lil experience with dogs, my last dog is shih tzu and miniature pincher. (all expense and things are bought by my parent so i got no idea hot much they spend on them lol). So as a "real" first time dog owner i eagerly want to know how much do you spend on your ms? ie. for foods, vets, toys, accessories, and etc. Please do tell me the average of your monthly cost to keep a MS. Thanks in advance and I really need your advise and help before I really get one for my wife.

also what is the smallest adult can be, any less then 12" ms. tyty

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post Apr 29 2009, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Apr 29 2009, 05:05 PM)
Hi ms lovers, My wife is looking forward to get a ms as a pet. i am looking for really small ms since we are living in a 850sqf apartment. I do have a lil experience with dogs, my last dog is shih tzu and miniature pincher. (all expense and things are bought by my parent so i got no idea hot much they spend on them lol). So as a "real" first time dog owner i eagerly want to know how much do you spend on your ms? ie. for foods, vets, toys, accessories, and etc. Please do tell me the average of your monthly cost to keep a MS. Thanks in advance and I really need your advise and help before I really get one for my wife.

also what is the smallest adult can be, any less then 12" ms. tyty

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post Apr 29 2009, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Apr 29 2009, 05:05 PM)
Hi ms lovers, My wife is looking forward to get a ms as a pet. i am looking for really small ms since we are living in a 850sqf apartment. I do have a lil experience with dogs, my last dog is shih tzu and miniature pincher. (all expense and things are bought by my parent so i got no idea hot much they spend on them lol). So as a "real" first time dog owner i eagerly want to know how much do you spend on your ms? ie. for foods, vets, toys, accessories, and etc. Please do tell me the average of your monthly cost to keep a MS. Thanks in advance and I really need your advise and help before I really get one for my wife.

also what is the smallest adult can be, any less then 12" ms. tyty

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Hi Eng Tat,

If you're looking for a 'small' Min. Schnauzer, I can safely say there isn't such a thing. The average height for a Min. Schnauzer is 12 - 16". If you're looking for a real small dog, probably a Chihuahua or Yorkshire Terrier would be your thing smile.gif

As for expenses, I spend on an average RM100 - RM200 a month on Scottie...these include food and grooming expenses only. For a pup, you would be looking at vaccination costs (about RM40 - RM50 per jab), deworming (RM5 - RM10 per pill), food (possibly about RM50++ per month?), vet costs (depends on which vet you go to though...some consultation fees [only] can go up to RM30). Accessories would depend on what kind you are getting...a lot of price ranges there. If you want to get a gist of how much you would spend, maybe you could make a list of things that your pup would need when it's at your home, go to the pet store, and start checking on the prices there....you should get a general idea on how much to spend.
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post Apr 29 2009, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(thedancingsun @ Apr 29 2009, 02:28 PM)
"kuen" as in cantonese......i dun know wat's the word for it in English, but meaning is trying to squeeze thru any possible holes.

This is the 180 degree change from when I first bought her home.  I can put her in a carton box while I clean her cage, no problem! I can put a plastic stool over her (those with the parameter plastic around the stool) and she won't move from that space. 

The other day, I blocked her in the toilet with a home wooden ladder cum stool type and before I knew it, she's out of the toilet exploring my guest room!!  Arrghh.....

I put her in the carton box, she overturn the box and was out....and she likes to hide behind my back.  So I have to find a higher box to contains her.

Also, I think she got "serious" problem, she thinks she's a rabbit.  She doesn't walk but hops around.  She hops around my apartment following me around.  The only time she'll not hop is when I put a leash on her and she will resist!  Refused to budged!!!!
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lolz...hop around? can't wait to meet her...


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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Apr 29 2009, 05:05 PM)
Hi ms lovers, My wife is looking forward to get a ms as a pet. i am looking for really small ms since we are living in a 850sqf apartment. I do have a lil experience with dogs, my last dog is shih tzu and miniature pincher. (all expense and things are bought by my parent so i got no idea hot much they spend on them lol). So as a "real" first time dog owner i eagerly want to know how much do you spend on your ms? ie. for foods, vets, toys, accessories, and etc. Please do tell me the average of your monthly cost to keep a MS. Thanks in advance and I really need your advise and help before I really get one for my wife.

also what is the smallest adult can be, any less then 12" ms. tyty

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dat depends on certain ppl...i spend less than 20 each month and wil onli buy their food every 3mths...but da 1st few months u need to spend abit more lar...coz u need to buy her cage, playpen, bowl, toys, jabs and so on..

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Scottie and Wilbur as a winner for  prize from Anniversary petmysite.com. Today just got from office. I pos to you all by tomorrow.
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Hi all, these are just an update photo for my furkids photo.

They can play together now and Wilbur treat Wilbur like his partner and family already.

If we never let WaWa out from palpen, he will just sit at the side of WaWa and wait until we let WaWa free. rclxms.gif

After tired playing, they will rest together.....hahahha so cute...........



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I am comptemplating on whether to spayed my puppy or not? Any thoughts on that??

At this point in time, I am not intending to breed my puppy and later dog...and I don't want it to be raped like one of the owner's dog....hahahaaa


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If you're not planning to breed your dog, spaying is always good smile.gif Go and find a reputable vet to do the surgery though, coz I hear a lot of horror stories about surgeries gone wrong sad.gif
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Clements,

Cool and nice. Thanks for the prize
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QUOTE(Candy&Vincent @ Apr 30 2009, 10:25 AM)
Hi all, these are just an update photo for my furkids photo.

They can play together now and Wilbur treat Wilbur like his partner and family already.

If we never let WaWa out from palpen, he will just sit at the side of WaWa and wait until we let WaWa free.  rclxms.gif

After tired playing, they will rest together.....hahahha so cute...........
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They have same hair cut. Cute...
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for you information.

Why does dog eat his poop
This is a common question amongst dog lovers... "Why does my dog eat his poop and how can I get him to stop". Some dogs don't just eat their own...but also eat other dog's poop.

It may be hard to believe but stool-eating is not uncommon or abnormal. And...it may even have its benefits.

In fact, the mother dog will naturally eat the feces of her puppies as she cleans them and her nest. Puppies often eat feces as they explore their environment - probably in the same manner that babies and small children will put just about anything in their mouths.

Eventually, most puppies figure out that they are better and tastier things to eat than poop and move on to consume food. Other dogs never learn and will continue this behavior.

Other dogs are thought to do it out of boredom. It is also possible some dogs will eat feces in an attempt to correct nutritional deficiencies form a poor quality diet.

It is important to look at why a dog is eating feces to determine what can be done. By the way...the medical term for eating feces is "Coprophagia". We have an excellent article on this topic by my friend Dr. Nicholas Dodman, a veterinarian and behaviorist.

Coprophagia in Dogs

Coprophagia is the practice of eating stool (feces). There's nothing more disgusting to a dog owner than seeing their dog eat its own or another dog's stool, and then to have the dog saunter up, tail wagging, looking for a kiss and a few kind words.

"Why on earth would dogs do such a repulsive thing?" an owner might ask. What on earth is the attraction in this behavior? We may never know for sure but we do have an inkling about what initiates the behavior and can surmise how and why it continues.

The Facts About Coprophagia

Coprophagia is not an abnormal behavior for canines in certain situations. b****es naturally consume their own pup's feces – presumably, to keep the nest clean. This behavior provides a survival benefit as it prevents unhygienic conditions from developing in the nest; a state of affairs that could lead to disease.

The biological drive to eat feces, which is implanted as a survival instinct, compels nursing b****es to ingest their pups' feces.

In addition, many puppies go through an oral stage in which they explore everything with their mouths, sometimes ingesting a variety of non-food items, including feces.

As time goes by, the majority of pups eventually learn that food tastes better than feces and they swear off the stool-eating habit for the rest of their lives. Some older puppies may continue to eat feces for a few months, but most grow out of the habit after the first year.

Barring nursing b****es, the majority of "normal" adult dogs have absolutely no interest in eating feces.

When Coprophagia is a Problem

Slow learners, "oral retentives," and pups in which habits are easily ingrained may continue to engage in coprophagia well beyond the accepted "norm" and may engage in it to excess. Such hard-core coprophagics continue the behavior long after their peers have developed new interests. Dogs like this, that seem addicted to the habit, may best be described as "compulsive."

Below is a list of possible contributing factors though more than one may be operating in any one case.

The opportunity to observe the dam eating stool
High protein, low residue, puppy food
Irregular feeding schedule
Feeding inadequate amounts of food
Under-stimulating environment
Constant opportunity to ingest feces
Inadequate attention/supervision

Veterinary Care

Diagnosis

Whether by nature, nurture, or a combination of factors, coprophagy rears its ugly head as a persistent and irritating habit that some long-suffering dog owners seem fated to endure. There are several different forms of coprophagy but, whatever form it takes, there are probably similar drives and predilections operating. Variations on the theme include:

Dogs that are partial only to their own stool
Dogs that eat only other dogs' stool
Dogs that eat stool only in the winter if it is frozen solid ("poopsicles")
Dogs that eat only the stool of various other species, often cats

Therapy

There are some "home" remedies that have been practiced, but they rarely work. Here are a few:

Adding Adolph's Meat Tenderizer® or Forbid®, commercially available preparations of pancreatic enzymes, to the dog's food

Adding crushed breath mints to the diet

"Doctoring" each stool with Tabasco® in the hopes of discouraging the dog from the habit

The following strategies have met with more success, though it is important to note that results vary:

Picking up all available stools (i.e. denying access)

Escorting the dog into a "picked up" area and walking him back inside the house immediately after he has successfully passed a bowel movement and before he even has a chance to investigate the fruits of his labor

Some dogs try to circumvent their owner's control by eating the stool as it emerges and for these incorrigible few a muzzle may be necessary

Changing the dog's diet and feeding schedule so that high fiber rations are fed frequently and perhaps by free choice. Hill's r/d Prescription Diet®, a diet that contains 10 percent fiber is a good option. It may work by allowing the dog to eat to satiation without gaining weight, or it may alter the texture of the dog's stool, making it less palatable. Dry food seems more effective than wet food in curtailing coprophagia

Lifestyle enrichment is also helpful. Make sure your dog has plenty of exercise and spends plenty of quality time with you each day. Some dogs respond when a "Get a job program" is implemented. Such a program is designed to encourage the dog to exercise his natural tendencies by means of activities like chasing, fetching, walking, pseudo-hunting, fly ball, agility training, etc.

Teach the LEAVE IT command

Although some of the above measures have occasionally been found effective on their own, it best to apply a whole program of prevention for at least six months to nip the behavior in the bud. If during this time, if the dog gets access to stool and ingests it, some ground will be lost. Hopefully, though, progress will eventually be made, even if it's one step back for every two forward.

Despite all these modifications in environment and training, some dogs persist in the habit of coprophagia. For these dogs, the compulsive disorder diagnosis may be worth considering. Some obstinate cases respond to the judicious use of human anti-depressants.

Although controversial, the obsessive-compulsive disorder diagnosis seems to fill the bill, on occasion at least, and it meets a couple of the scientific criteria for diagnosis.

Face validity: The dog appears obsessed with eating stool and compelled to ingest it.

Predictive validity: Extreme, refractory, coprophagy should follow a genetic predilection, occurring more frequently in anxious breeds of dog. The latter appears to be true, as the condition seems to be more common in certain breeds (e.g. retrievers). Also, the condition should, and often does, respond to therapy with anti-obsessional drugs.

Home Care

In the majority of cases, coprophagy can be successfully treated at home by means of a combination of management changes (exercise, diet, and supervised outdoor excursions) and environmental measures, but be wary of the occasional medical condition that masquerades the same way (your vet can help rule out such conditions).

By Dr. Nicholas Dodman

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