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thedancingsun
post Apr 28 2009, 11:39 AM

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Dear All

I am a new owner of a Salt & Pepper Mini Schnauzer....first time pet owner oso!! Going crazy already because my puppy eats its own poo! Now under strict watchful eyes.

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post Apr 28 2009, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(waichee86 @ Apr 28 2009, 11:44 AM)
hi thedancingsun...wat is his/her name?
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Her name is Kimmy
She's about 9 weeks old
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When I first got her, she's quiet and shy....will try to go back to her cage if I took her out to play. Now, she's active and playful....will demand for attention.
Get hysterically excited when she hears food being poured into her bowl.
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post Apr 28 2009, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Rayne @ Apr 28 2009, 12:48 PM)
Hi thedancingsun! Kimmy sure looks cute in the photos! She seems a little big-boned for a 9-week-old pup...smile.gif

Eric, you so geng la! Although I share my food with Scottie also, but I don't do it like that...laugh.gif I would pick out pieces from my food for Scottie...tongue.gif Maybe coz it's all the science training ingrained in me or something...haha! I do let Scottie kiss me and sometimes sleep with me too, but he can only kiss me on the cheeks, and not the mouth. laugh.gif
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I really dun know if she's big boned but she seems so small to me. About 8" in length i think, 12" including the head. This is how she compares with another MS who is about 1.2yr old.

Anybody has any idea what colour she will turn out to be as she grow older??? Pet shop guy says she'll be lighter cos got golden tint in her hair...but she sure looks very dark (Indian) to me leh!! tongue.gif


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post Apr 28 2009, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(kerrie @ Apr 28 2009, 10:28 PM)
yah..da color wil get lighter wan...last time daisy's fur oso very dark wan...but as i groom her, her fur oso get lighter..
u got a adult ms ar? bring him/her come to our gathering lar...where u stay ar?



Added on April 28, 2009, 10:29 pm
he got kacau other thread ar...reali crazy fella
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Hahhaa...my puppy now at my fren's place cos she eats own poo and I'm not home at work, she gets lonely. So send her to "boarding school" to my fren to toilet train since she got own business and oso got an adult MS. They get really pally!! I stay in KL. Will bring her out when she done with all her jab. Actually I oredi bought her out...didn't know kenot....took her to grooming after got her on 2nd day cos she got dandruff and quite dirty.

This is my first pet and first dog, so got a bit scared she's so small....when I shower her a week later, she shake i oso shiver!!! rclxub.gif Be seeing her this weekend, quite miss her...my poo eating puppy!! tongue.gif

I was just reading that crazy guy's stuff...he sounds like a Valerie stalker!!! Quite funny.....

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post Apr 29 2009, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(kerrie @ Apr 29 2009, 12:18 AM)
u bath her wif cold or warm water? puppy is like dat wan lar...coz most dog oso dun like to bath wan...but she wil get used to it very soon...
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Its warm water and she tries running away.....i need 2block her while at the same time managing the shower head....rubbing her with the brush because she got a bit of skin problem, it was hard work I tell you!!!! Trying to catch that slippery small thingy!! hahaha sweat.gif

Does your dog knows the meaning of full??? I fed her and she'll globble down her food, and she'll look at you with the look "that's it huh??" I already fed her more than the portion that the pet shop told me to oredi!
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post Apr 29 2009, 11:53 AM

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Ya why ah?? I thought dogs like water unlike cats???!! Oh my puppy like to "kuen" and very fast one....

And she has no concept of heights....she actually jump from my fren's arms while she was sitting on the sofa...and my heart kinda dropped!!! She went splat on the floor.... pick herself up and terrorise the adult MS!
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post Apr 29 2009, 02:28 PM

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"kuen" as in cantonese......i dun know wat's the word for it in English, but meaning is trying to squeeze thru any possible holes.

This is the 180 degree change from when I first bought her home. I can put her in a carton box while I clean her cage, no problem! I can put a plastic stool over her (those with the parameter plastic around the stool) and she won't move from that space.

The other day, I blocked her in the toilet with a home wooden ladder cum stool type and before I knew it, she's out of the toilet exploring my guest room!! Arrghh.....

I put her in the carton box, she overturn the box and was out....and she likes to hide behind my back. So I have to find a higher box to contains her.

Also, I think she got "serious" problem, she thinks she's a rabbit. She doesn't walk but hops around. She hops around my apartment following me around. The only time she'll not hop is when I put a leash on her and she will resist! Refused to budged!!!!
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post Apr 30 2009, 12:07 PM

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I am comptemplating on whether to spayed my puppy or not? Any thoughts on that??

At this point in time, I am not intending to breed my puppy and later dog...and I don't want it to be raped like one of the owner's dog....hahahaaa


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post Apr 30 2009, 08:21 PM

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Hi Clement

Thanks for the info. That's why I have temporary sent it to my fren to observe and discipline it. At first I thought its because its left alone in the day time while I work. But apparently she is doing it at my fren's place too.

The pet shop says thsi is due to her digestive system not processing all the food hence poo oso smell like food!!! I kinda agree cos according to my fren, the puppy only eats it certain time of the day...I guess when its twice processed, it doesn't smell like food anymore??? hahahaa doh.gif

At first, while she was with me, I will watch her after dinner and hopefully catch her at it...but she got so excited at her poo!!! Its tough trying to fight her off!!!! A few times, my back was turned and she go at it with a gusto!!!!! drool.gif

I wanted to try feeding her pineapple (some source from internet says it will help with the enzyme in her digestive system) but my fren was recommending disciplining her first!

Will be visiting her this weekend...let's see how I can correct that problem!! rclxub.gif

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post Apr 30 2009, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(clementcpteh @ Apr 30 2009, 09:15 PM)
Yea, hope it useful for you the information. I read some forum member teach member about this problem in wrongly.
it getting worst the situation, to the end this dog gave away to some else, never hear the news again.
you need fast pick up the poo before she bad habit. or you may reward the treat to her after poo. Hope this help.
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Yes, at one point, so frustrated wanted to sell her off already!! But I oso heard from other MS puppy owners that its a very common problem and that they will grow out of it <keeping fingers crossed>. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry; on one hand, cage so clean, no need for me to clean but on the other hand, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww doh.gif hahahhaaaa
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post Apr 30 2009, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Rayne @ Apr 30 2009, 10:58 PM)
laugh.gif laugh.gif I guess I am very lucky that Scottie never took to eating his own poop...smile.gif Can you imagine the pup eating the poop, and then proceed to give you kisses?  ohmy.gif  tongue.gif
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Exactly!! How do you feel affection for a poo eating puppy?? hahhaaahhahaha I guess some are luckier...
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post May 2 2009, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(ericyong @ May 1 2009, 01:48 AM)
yeahhh... bring ur MS out to our MS gatherings!
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She haven't finish all her shots yet so, have to wait until end-June. She's not eating poo that much but likes to pee all over the place!!!! Very the cunning one. There's like at least 4 pairs of eyeballs on her but she managed to secretly pee on the floor when we have been trying to teach her to pee at her designated tray! She's well socialise....play with bigger dogs with no problem. Tolerates children handling her!! So much so, she hides under the sofa and refused to come out!! laugh.gif

Attached pics of her when she knows she's gonna get feeding...that's the look of near hysterical excited!!! And for her treats, she will jump thru the hoola hoop!! I think she may be candidate for agility course!! hahahaha Quite amazing for 10weeks old!

Also, pics of her playing with an adult MS. Have you guys seen a curly hair MS??? This one is a strange one! laugh.gif

And she likes sleeping underneath the sofa....gives her sense of security I suppose!

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post May 2 2009, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(waichee86 @ May 2 2009, 10:54 PM)
is dat a white ms?
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Nope its a salt and pepper! Haven't seen any curly aka Indian MS before?!! hahaha

Oh are you referring to the white dog??? I don't know what is it????? Neither do my fren cos its a stray. It looks like Maltese but the ears not long enough. The white looks like Maltese but the ear looks like MS.

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post May 2 2009, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(kerrie @ May 2 2009, 11:21 PM)
maybe its a terrier?? a mixed one...??

neway, ur ms is super cute...reminds me of daisy wen she's juz a puppy, all cute and innocent. Unlike now, very very noti and sneaky..
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I'm more inclined to think the white dog is MS mix with Maltese?? But that doesn't explain the light brown patch on her body??

Hahahahaha....cute & innocent isn't the terms that applied to my dog!! My fren is puzzled if she's either extremely clever or extremely stupid.

Oh..she's very cunning alrite.....so far no one has caught her peeing in the act...and when she's "punished" to sit in the corner, she just look at you and walk off. And when your back is turn, she'll crawl (walk lying on the floor) to the sofa so she can hide there!!! Even the big dog doesn't know how to crawl!!

Oh...and in her excitement for food, she actually climb over that wooden barrier....see how tall it is???!!!!! Definitely not innocent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! doh.gif hahhahaaa

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post May 4 2009, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(robbylover89 @ May 4 2009, 12:17 PM)
okok..he is still active as usual....okok...pretty hard 2 toilet rain him...vr stubborn..
thanks 4ur info anyway. biggrin.gif
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Oh I so hear you!! I have the same problem with my puppy. Now she's hiding when she pees.....we only found out when its too late. doh.gif


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QUOTE(robbylover89 @ May 4 2009, 10:02 AM)
Previously i'm feeding him dog kibbles...Then i change it 2 raw food diet...and he loves it vrvrvrvr much..but he can pee every 20minutes...it seems like he cant control his bladder..he nvr pee on his usual spot...
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I heard the pro side of BARF diet....but what is the downside??? I heard that dogs that are fed with raw meat are more vicious. I asked my pet shop if I can give raw meat, he replies, "Can...but I'm changing my mobile number!!".

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post May 4 2009, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Rayne @ May 4 2009, 07:49 PM)
Vicious? I say that's rubbish wink.gif I've been feeding Scottie for almost a year now, and he's still as docile as he was when he was on kibble. I can't say the same for other people who disturb him when he's eating though, but I can just take the food away from his mouth and he doesn't make a peep at me. smile.gif My take on it is probably training...I've been 'disturbing' Scottie when he's eating since the first day I got him, so I guess he is used to it already. And he knows that although I take his food away, it is only for a while and the food will go back to his bowl again.

Most pet shops and vets do not support raw feeding coz 1)they don't really know much about it, and 2)they are selling kibbles! If they advocate raw feeding, who's going to buy the kibbles in their shop? Just my two cents' worth. smile.gif

You asked about the downsides of raw feeding....my only thing with it is that new raw feeders do not do enough research and reading on the subject before embarking on it. Some just think that feeding raw means just chucking some chicken and that's it. It's a little bit more than that...do some reading, ask other raw feeders, join a group for which you can get answers re: raw feeding, and it shouldn't be much of a problem.
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Yup just doing some research....but haven't decided if I should yet. It would be difficult if it need boarding when I'm not around.

By the way, what's the average weight for a 10 weeks old MS? Mine is 1.9kg....and she seems a little bit underweight.
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post May 5 2009, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Rayne @ May 5 2009, 09:13 AM)
I agree. It's quite hard to tell the the average weight for a pup, coz all pups are different in terms of their growth and size. As long as the pup is active, feeding normal and does not show any symptoms of fatigue or anything out of the ordinary, they should be fine smile.gif

Another good way to check your pup if he/she is too thin is by running your hands over the sides of the pup. The ideal situation would be if you apply a little bit of pressure before feeling the ribs. If you can feel the ribs already by just touching the sides lightly, then the pup might be too thin. If you cannot feel the ribs at all even though you apply a little pressure, the pup might be overweight.

If your pup IS underweight though, just up the amount of food, but don't overdo it either. Min. Schnauzers have a tendency to get obese really fast, so if you intend to up the amount of food, do it gradually and slowly. Monitor your pup constantly to get him/her to the ideal weight and maintain it there. smile.gif
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Thanks guys!! From the pics, do you think she's underweight??? I can feel her ribs between slight pressure and lightly....that's why asking. I've already up the amount and also the freqency from twice to three times a day. Add yogurt and vitamins into her kibbles too. But she doesn't seem to put on weight...just grew slightly bigger.
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post May 5 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(iluv2zzz @ May 5 2009, 11:17 PM)
LOL you so cute smile.gif Puppy eat to grow BIG, and adult eat to grow FAT hahahahhah smile.gif Don't worry la  nod.gif
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tongue.gif Well, I get a little worried cos i look at pics online, most puppies are so huggable...fat and round....while mine skinny and thin!! But eats like starved for years. She actually went underneath the big dog, crawl between the big dog's leg, underbelly so can reach the big dog's food!!!!!! So I oso wonder if she's really hungry or just greedy???!! blush.gif

Btw, do anyone knows if there is a dog day care centre in KL???
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post May 6 2009, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kerrie @ May 6 2009, 01:29 AM)
ya...juz like daisy..now matter how much u giv her, she'll keep eating until she wanna puke.

last time wen i go back to ipoh, my bro feed her a bowl full of kibbles and she finished it. But i dunno dat she eat d so i feed her again and she stil can eat...aihh..
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Hahaha...her motivation for food makes her easy to train. Can sit, down and jump. But toilet training is just plain crazy! Improving somewhat (keeping fingers crossed)!

This is a pic of her trying to snatch treats away from the white dog that is temperamental and hates other dogs...she'll growl if Kimmy goes near her or if anyone pats her!

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post May 7 2009, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(robbylover89 @ May 7 2009, 03:20 AM)
hi guys...erm do u guys let ur puppy use the wee wee pad tray? de one whr u can put ur wee wee pad on the tray 1...i got a prob here..my pup tend to bite the wee wee pad until it is all torn...and even i put de washable 1 ..he will oso bite it out...any ways 2 stop them from doing so?i've tried all de many ways such as take de tray and whack him lightly...scolded him....but nothing works...
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Hahaha....puppies get excited when they comes in contact with fabric and newspaper!!! I suggest using a tray with a rack on top, tat way, the feets wont get wet and u won't have urine all over the house. You can line the tray with newspaper but with the rack on top, they can't get to the newspaper.

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