What's worse that piracy isnt only the fact that developers dont get any money. But others people profit over it. Usually shaddy people that are involved in other nasty businesses (the suppliers of course not the shopkeepers). You buy pirated games, you kinda help fund them IMO. Giving money to bad people.

If you definitely have no choice and have to go non-original. Do yourself a favour and download and burn it yourself. And if you do like it, make a point to buy the game when you find it despite finishing it already.

Not one of the most ideal way of doing things but at least there is show of support so i agree to a certain extend .

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Added on March 5, 2009, 6:38 pmIn the discussion of piracy, is not only the Xbox which is affected. So shuldn't blame the inept of the console for the cause of piracy...even that, I think its a poor lame excuse, sorry to say.

This post has been edited by used2bcow: Mar 5 2009, 06:38 PM

i have never use original when i was studying...
but ever since i started my job i never use pirated software anymore:)

I think it is a support to the developer and also recognition for the effort and time they have put in to build the game:)

and of coz i feel good when holding a ori game:P

just my POV.

Regardless of the current situation in terms of spending vs income ration in the end i feel, we still have a choice. It's just like smoking, why do we insist on paying rm9 a pack for something which would eventually kill us? Why do we still end up buying a console which supposedly is over cost but say we cant afford the games that we play on it? Why do we spend tonnes of money upgrading our PC but in the end buy pirated to play on that same PC? No matter how we try to justify the reasoning of piracy, in the end it boils down to choice. But dat doesn't change the fact that piracy is still wrong and illegal.

In terms of releasing games with competitive pricing, i think that is already being done, going for less than rm50 a pop but maybe that is just for the pc....cant say for consoles. Though is for the older titles but since we're so cheapo we could probably wait....if they ever do get released . There is alwiz the second hand market.

I totally agree. Why buy a console when you can't afford the games? Here in M'sia, gaming is a very high end luxury that many cannot afford and that's a fact. Of course that's also the reason why piracy is so rampant here which is very sad.

Used to buy pirated disc .. ALOT! PSONE, PS2 all of it. after acquire XBOX 360 and PS 3 no longer buy pirate ones. Why? keep on buy pirated games less and less exciting games will come out. SO SUPPORT ORI !!!!!

Why thank you Friction.
Anyway,yes. Totally that.
I always found it a ripoff to buy pirated games from the shops. All they're doing is what you could easily do in the comfort of your own home.
They download the games,and burn them onto discs with fancy packaging which isn't even needed.
Sometimes they inflate the price just for the fun of it.

Take this for example:
PS2 games used to cost RM5 back when I was a pirate.PC DVD games cost RM15.
That didn't make sense.They're doing exactly the same thing.Downloading the game,and burning them on a disc.
I don't see why it should cost RM10 more.

The only reason you'd want to buy a pirated disc as opposed to downloading it is if you have a slow internet connection(....screamyx),or you just don't have the utilities to do it.
But if I were you,I'd rather wait 2 years and burn the game at a friend's house than to buy GTA 4 for RM50 when it could be for free.(At 1Utama,they sold it pirated)

this has become like a piracy issue discussion thread. hehe.

man, i thank you all for your replies really. and to used2bcow too, said lots of worth pondering points there.

and there was one who said something bout bringing down the price, specifically in consoles, if that were to happen, i would definitely go for it.

maybe we can w8 for M$ to do like Sony and put blue ray, then maybe it will take take for Jack Sparrow to figure it out, then ... wa laaaa we should see ppl buying the ori games.

Yay support Ori ...

blu ray has already been cracked long time ago. even before PS3 came out. just that the media is too expensive for normal ppl to buy and burn. plus the filesize (50gb) is too huge to download easily off the net.

Cheap and affordable games in other countries is a good reason for me to consider leaving Malaysia and go SG for work in the future...Seriously..haha

arghh now i regret skipping school and not doing my homework. thanks for the info. (im one of the normal ppl btw. + shh im a student .. no way (at least now) i can afford dat ..)

This post has been edited by tuntung: Mar 6 2009, 10:31 AM

First of all, I am not justifying the piracy. What I offer is a suggestion to remedy piracy issue, that is, to lower the price to make it affordable among the lower tiers in our region. Like original movie DVDs - which China and our region are selling at a lower price than other regions.

One earn USD3000 in US, Xbox360 is selling at USD399 and DVD at USD60.

One earn RM2000 in MY, Xbox360 is selling at RM1600 and DVD at RM200.

A working kid in US can easily afford gaming. That is the point of affordability i was trying to say. Nonetheless we ain't a decision maker who can set the campaign "Lets Make Gaming Affordable in Africa" and make minimal profits.

Secondly, playing ori games doesn't mean one is a holy saint that we can go rebuting and insulting around. Take a look around, ppl around us have problem to feed their kids these days.

Thirdly, I am not a jack sparrow fan, and I am not trying to spark a war of whatsoever. Lets be realistic that piracy is never an easy issue to solve, and the kid doesn't want this thread to get carried away. So Peace brothers, go Ori maxZibel.

Well imo, if you can afford it better not make it a hobby. Ethically is wrong in a sense, its like you cant afford that pair of expensive shoes, so it makes it justifiable that since everyone else can afford it, stealing it is ok.

I'm not at the high range of income id say, and they're a lot of games i want to play, but I cant afford that, so I buy the ones I really want and go old school and borrow from friends. Or I could buy 2nd hand. They're a few alternatives.

I know its kinda tough to game original in malaysia, esp on your wallet. But there is little to justify piracy.

This thread has turned on an interesting turn.

And I'm pretty good with the ladies too trogdor1oh1.

Flipacoin2k. Please dun mistaken my post as trying to start a war of words. I'm am just voicing my point of view over the issue and is not my intention to supposedly rebutt and insult anyone. Not saying that ur views are wrong, but again i iterate wat i was trying to convey in my previous post, it is still about choice. Choice as a consumer. Why do ppl who cant afford it still carry a credit card around and in the end come into debts running 10s of thousands? Is alwiz choice.

Just for discussions' sake,

What is the difference between buying pre-owned original 360 games, and pirated 360 games?

Example, person A buys brand new --> he puts money into the hands of the game companies / etc.
Person B buys second hand from person A
Person C buys second hand from person B
Person D buys second hand from person C

The way I see it, Persons B - D effectively do nothing to support the industry, and so how different is this from piracy?

So Person A has more spending power to buy new games.

So person B, C and D can experience of owning an ori game and may one day be compelled to buy 1st hand.

Pre-owned games not necessarily ez to come by which in turn would make B,C and D go buy 1st hand instead .

This post has been edited by used2bcow: Mar 6 2009, 12:20 PM

Exactly!
And so the beautiful cycle goes on....

Got somemore...I edited the list

go pirate~! lol jk jk =P

well, support ori is good, i was just curious, what do you guys do when u buy an ori ps3/xbox360 games like Rain, OnichanbaraX, Two World? which it sucks to the ground. the moment u start the game u feel like u wanna break the disc into half even for a pirate.

i know some of u would sell of the game, but if the game is really this sucky, why would i buy it for RM50 (super discount from RM180-220) ? even pirates would throw/break the disc for price of RM8 only?

frame them up? hang them in the car? hang it on some chicken rice shop to make the fly's go away?

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Mar 6 2009, 12:44 PM