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tineagle
post Jun 8 2009, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(ecVk @ Jun 8 2009, 07:26 PM)
Guys, i dont know whether this have been asked before but is it true that when your muscle ache = your muscle is building?
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Its due to the lactic acid build up. It would happen when a particular muscle group has been worked out pretty hard, and most people would like to think of the pain as a growth indicator.

This can be true for most cases, proven your nutrition and rest is adequate.
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post Jun 12 2009, 07:27 PM

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I've tried whey + milo, it actually tastes pretty good especially if its chocolate flavored whey..
But the milo cannot be boiling hot, or be prepared to down the clumpiest goo you've ever downed..

QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Jun 12 2009, 03:16 PM)
I am curious if anyone tried this mixture and what's the result.
It's basically sugar+whey... would it lead to sugar crash?  tongue.gif
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Why would it lead to sugar crash? Milo is a sort of carb energy drink, so its basically like taking whey+carbs shake(oats, dextrose.. etc.)
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post Jun 15 2009, 07:52 AM

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never a good idea to workout on the same day you're going to be drinking.

just do them on separate days.
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post Jun 15 2009, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(pokeat @ Jun 15 2009, 08:00 PM)
Pushups daily wont hurt my body ? Is hundred possible, my limit was 50 when I still in Form 5 sad.gif
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no, it wont. But if you want to some real gains from doing them, you should allow atleast 1-2days rest.

If its not muscle gains ur going for and just do it to keep fit, then by all means daily is fine.

QUOTE(pokeat @ Jun 15 2009, 08:00 PM)
Oh yea, what's creatine and whey [ Made of ? ]
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whey originates from a by product during cheese processing.

creatine, you might need to google this one up for a specific explanation.

QUOTE(pokeat @ Jun 15 2009, 08:00 PM)
Where can I check my BF % ?
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fitness concept stores offer a free body analysis.


Added on June 15, 2009, 10:41 pm
QUOTE(metalfreak @ Jun 15 2009, 12:45 PM)
I swear to God, I wasn't youtubing for female bber biggrin.gif
God knows how it all links from 1 video to another


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damm..

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post Jun 24 2009, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Jun 24 2009, 07:08 PM)
hai guise. one Q. how much difference will be for a barbell squat and a smith rack squat?
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I always do smith machine squats because the gym I go to doesn't have a squat rack.

Smith machine squats are a good way to start off. Plus I like them because you can do full squats(involving lower back) and also straight back squats(less pressure on the lower back).

I dont know if u can do straight back squats using a barbell. I imagine you'd lose balance?
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post Jun 28 2009, 01:20 AM

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mixing whey with hot water is never a good idea. Not only does the mixture get clumpy, but it also degenerates the whey
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post Jun 28 2009, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 28 2009, 12:25 PM)
We all speculate things too much. Let's get real. Protein is still protein unless anyone could prove heated whey would reduce the protein content.
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protein is protein, yes. But lets look at food for example. The way you cook an egg/vege can determine how much of its original nutrient content remains.

Why do people say gulping down raw eggs are better than hard boiled or scrambled eggs? They know that there is a risk for bacteria infection, but still even the old school BB-ers knew that cooking the eggs would slightly destroy some of its nutrient contents.(putting aside inconvenience of preparing the eggs)

Same thing goes to whey. I wouldn't say that it completely destroys the bonds, but the heat will surely have its effects on the nutrition contents.

To be on the safe side, I would mix it with warm water instead of boiling water
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post Jun 28 2009, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Jun 28 2009, 02:09 PM)
For Pete's sake, why don't you guys just listen to a food scientist for once?! doh.gif
Do you guys even know what does "denature" means? Only braindead got it right. Denatured protein can coagulate, form crosslinks, becomes gelation, etc...

Unless you super heat the protein at very high temperature, OR you char/carbonise the protein... the amino acids are still intact.

I'll give you guys an analogy:
Unfolding a large map but unable to fold it back to ori configurations. The map is still useful even if it's folded wrongly, right?

Replace the word "map" with "protein" and it's the same thing...

because proteins are very long chains/sheets of amino acids that are folded here and there and cross linked & bonded here and there.

Heat, pressure, enzymes, catalysts, acids can weaken these bonds ---> once weakened, the protein strings/sheets will unfold.

The problem is, the proteins cannot fold themselves back into ori configurations because it's a very complicated biological process. So they just cincai bundle back together.

Will this denatured form make it hard for your stomach to digest? Yes and no. Depends.
However, remember than acids will denature it? You stomach acid (which is damn powerful) will denature/unfold it again, so that enzyme can digest them.

The problem with over cooking the proteins is that precious vitamins might be lost.
Else, it's basically the same thing in a different look.
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Thats a very clear explanation. Thanks


Added on June 28, 2009, 7:17 pm
QUOTE(shanecross @ Jun 28 2009, 07:03 PM)
You should start gulping raw eggs and tell us if you are either crawling or sliding your bum everywhere you go for a week or more thanks to salmonella.
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Now that's just rude and disgusting.

I never take my eggs raw and I was just using the comparison of raw and cooked eggs as an example.

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post Jul 1 2009, 07:40 PM

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Hey does anyone know where I can get cottage cheese?
I've tried searching almost EVERYWHERE for it. Various locations of jusco, tesco, giant, carefour, cold storage...etc

But no luck..

(i did manage to find one small tub of it at the Carefour in Tropicana Mall, but it was expired.)
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post Jul 1 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(kotmj @ Jul 1 2009, 09:11 PM)
I was on the same quest some weeks ago. And found a lonely little tub at Cold Storage 1U at a caviar-like price (this sort of thing is dirt cheap in Europe). Whereupon I went and bought ON Casein.
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ahh, amongst the cheese and wine? That must have cost a bomb.. lol

The one i came across was a 100g tub for RM10. Still expensive but reasonable to an extent. Would last 2 servings perhaps.

Maybe I should consider casein. Lets see if anyone else can help us with cottage cheese..
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:34 AM

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yeah, the taste is what i'm after. Dont wanna rely too much on powders, trying to get more real food in
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post Jul 2 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(coolz_iced @ Jul 2 2009, 01:33 PM)
sunlac low fat 700g at jusco rm19
but if you could find at chinese herbal stores like N0el mention, the price as low as rm16 like that.
sunlac low fat taste weird. usually i drink when it warm.

dutchlady fullcream milk 1kg only rm18+ at tesco. those box 1 litter dutch lady milk, still rm3.50 at tesco.
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Go for the Dutch Lady Low Fat milk instead of the fullcream. More protein, less carbs and fat
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post Jul 2 2009, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Jul 2 2009, 04:30 PM)
i am suffering from back pain as well.
lower back.
due to deadlifts.
but it aint gonna stop me
the pain hasnt gone away the slightest bit since 3 days ago.
hopefully by next week it will be gone.
i cant even sleep coz its painful when i lie flat
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This shouldn't be the right attitude in bodybuilding. If ur body is screaming for rest, listen to it
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post Jul 4 2009, 04:42 AM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jul 4 2009, 12:31 AM)
Hi guys, any gym near Kelana Jaya that has a monthly or 3-month membership that isn't too expensive with not-so-crowded power racks? (I was thinking True Fitness Hartamas or Jaya-33 near Section 17).

The power rack at the gym I go to is bouncy, and I can't squat away from the rack because there's no space away from the rack (don't ask, odd set up with walls and pillars).

Thanks.


Added on July 4, 2009, 12:52 amI remember now that there is a Fitness Network @ Centrepoint! You guys had a gathering there, right?

HOW WAS IT? Good enough? # of power racks? Hammer Strength machines?
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There's on at Kelana Jaya glomac. Its near the old giant, the new shoplots.
This ones called Energy Fitness and its located above a corner mamak.

They charge rm7 per entry, and membership would cost about Rm60 a month the last time i checked. Do the math and see which is more worth it according to your workout frequency. They dont have a power rack, but the equips there are pretty decent and you can do lots. Drop by for a visit, its where i workout when I'm back home on holiday away from my usual gym at uni.

Gluck
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post Jul 15 2009, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(celion @ Jul 15 2009, 05:00 PM)
actually stretching is necessary when comes to weight training?
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i just read an article from flex on stretching.
Perform dynamic stretches before lifting. These are burst movements like jump kicking and shoulder rotations.
This is proven to increase lifting strength by up to 10%.

For warm down, performing static stretches is the way to go(stretches that are held for 10-30secs).
This aid with recovery and slow the release of cortisol hormones(which is a catabolic hormone).
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post Jul 15 2009, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(NekoRacing @ Jul 15 2009, 08:50 PM)
Peeps,

I just started work based in office. The place I'm working at is a bad location. No access to lean diet lifestyle. And punctuality is strict which means I only have strictly 1 hour break for meal. At other times I will have to eat while work.

What can I do to keep to the 6 meal diet? most importantly what do you guys do to keep up?
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like mofonyx said, sandwiches are the way to go. That's how i manage to get in 6 meals a day even when I have classes.

Expect a couple of weird stares/looks and questions from your friends and colleagues at first when you take out your sandwich box and start eating in between main meals, but after a while you'll get used to it.. lol
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post Jul 28 2009, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 28 2009, 04:23 PM)
Emo or not does not come from steroids. Do some studying before spurting out something like that. Have you ever seen a Mr.Olympia level bodybuilder (Which is clearly a center stage for dope) crying on stage while posing?
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I've seen them cry when they win, haha

but yeah, mostly bbers get emo due to low carb diet, something i can relate to myself.

pressure is another factor, not steroids. steroids give u roid rage biggrin.gif

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post Jul 29 2009, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jul 29 2009, 12:00 PM)
Exactly my point. If there is even any form of rage occurring, that particular person already have issues to begin with. How many deaths occur due to ROID RAGE compared to ALCOHOL. I'd give a 1:150 ratio tongue.gif
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why are you comparing roid rage and alcohol? whats the ratio of steroid users to alcohol consumers?

roid rage is simply a term used to describe the sudden burst of energy and the tender ability to snap when aggravated.

Not all steroid users experience this. It is common amongst those who abuse steroids. Having excesive amounts of testosterone(mostly) contributes to this 'rage'.

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post Aug 3 2009, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(reddice @ Aug 3 2009, 08:25 PM)
today is see someone benching 100kg alone...damn...

that damn heavy...pergh..first time seeing it here....

lets say if someone is benching on the machine...how much is the different in weight and force to push if compare to free weight??

or if he can bench 100kg on machine,he still can do it on free weight...??
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usually one can lift more on machine lifts because there's no need to spend extra energy balancing the bar as needed when training with free weights.

at one point of time,before I started doing free weight bench presses, I could bench 95lbs on the machine and only manage 50lbs using free weights.. lol
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post Aug 5 2009, 12:15 AM

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Squat at 100kg, next goal at 110kg
Leg Press at 320kg, next goal at 340kg


I wonder, how come you can leg press 320KG and only squat 100kg?

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