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post Mar 22 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(Neek @ Mar 22 2009, 05:59 PM)
So far been doing front squats for about 4 times now... front squatting 60kgs. however i'm using the cross arm grip. still not used to the clean grip. i think my wrist is not flexible enough.. and also i'm not used to supporting the weights on my front delts.
with the cross grip can support on side delts which seems easier and less tiring too.
also when i do the clean grip, seems like the bar is too near my throat.. feels like its choking me. hmmm.. need to work on my clean grip more.

think i'll want to incorporate both front and back squat into my leg routine....
Thanks for da tips so far. smile.gif
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There's a pocket when you raise your elbows up. This is where the bar should be resting upon. And yes it is EXTREMELY close to your neck, but you'll have to "tahan" the pain. Use an empty bar first, do warm-ups for about 20-30 reps. Find the position, and keep holding it there. Trust me, the clean grip will make a difference.

QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 22 2009, 09:01 PM)
hey guys...ive just stopped sit ups alltogether..ive had back pains everytime i  complete my workout..

now im doing sumthing called ....renegade dumbell rows.... hehehehe....dem...

u guys should try this....hahahhahahahahahahhahahahahah
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They get pretty normal after a while. Then you can try bear crawls. That's one heckofva upperbody workout.

Added on March 22, 2009, 10:45 pmAND WHAT?
Nobody has anything to say about this?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/973070


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post Mar 24 2009, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Mar 24 2009, 10:26 AM)
Got a question. When we do an exercise for example the bench press, do we need to extend the arm until it lock at the end or not ? Same goes to squat, do we lock at the end of the move or not. Get what I mean ?
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In powerlifting, a lift isn't counted, until you lockout. Also in weightlifting, a jerk doesn't count till you lockout. In bodybuilding.....hmmm...here's where it's a little different. I'll list it;

Lockout:

-You work your whole tricep heads
-It looks better
-You strengthen your shoulders and joints and ligaments +isometric strength

No lockout:

-Your muscles work harder with more lactic acid buildup
-More tear, probably more muscular development

In the squats, if it's light, don't lock out. If it's heavy and you wanna get stronger, lockout. This "rest" period helps you get more weights moved.

SO you choose what you want.
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post Mar 26 2009, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 26 2009, 04:37 AM)
not many people here into abs exercise, but anybody doing advanced abs exercise? its too boring with sit ups and leg raises now.
im thinking of hanging wipers or dragon flag....
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Hanging windshield wipers, surprisingly, not as difficult. Dragon flag, not human. Two reps is all you need for it to hurt so badly for 2-3 days

QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 26 2009, 08:37 AM)
me.. me.. we r in the same boat bro.. thumbup.gif i oso into abs exercise.. but, no advance exercise so far.. crunch, sit ups, just the same exercise as yours.. but i have a prob here.. my lower abs got a layer of stubborn fat, which is REALLY..REALLY DAMN HARD to get rid.. any suggestion? hmm.gif

edit:typo  tongue.gif ..Damn!!
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Wha? You're thinking that sit-ups will help lose fat around the belly area? Wrong my friend.
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post Mar 26 2009, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(pedro @ Mar 26 2009, 01:39 PM)
King,Endo right?

Train your chest harder man,i normally start dropsets at 70kgs for 15 reps.
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You START a dropset at 70KG'S for 15?
I tried 70KG'S for 20 reps and I couldn't even drive back home. (That was months ago when I still benched) How do you even open a door with that sort of dropset??
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post Mar 26 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(registryeditor @ Mar 26 2009, 07:37 PM)
shit, this thread is becoming a weightlifting thread instead of bodybuilding thread. no offence though, pizzaman. well, its just me cuz i carry babyweights, so, there's nothing i can brag about. =(
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Eh please, weightlifting is clean and jerk and snatch competition. These guys talking bench presses. Tak berkaitan with me. Okay what, at least they're talking about lifting. Nobody asking about "Should I eat turtle eggs or chihuahua eggs?"
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post Mar 27 2009, 01:37 AM

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post Mar 27 2009, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 27 2009, 04:22 AM)
can you execute the flag properly? damnnnn...i tried and i cant complete even one rep....i think i can broke my back in two... sweat.gif

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U gotta be kidding me. My torso's longer than the Penang bridge so it's much harder for me. I'll say I can executE ONE rep with proper form

QUOTE(mcbarney666 @ Mar 27 2009, 07:36 AM)
Them dragon flags are WTF. I bet I in addition to having my core sore, I won't be able to move my neck much after doing a couple of those.

Here's an interesting article for all you 6-pack chasers.
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OOOOO lookie! One T-nation article that DOESN'T suck. Before you jump on me, think about it. The bulk of their articles recently, is merely a bunch of methods that have already been used over and over again, and documented differently.

QUOTE(sprix @ Mar 27 2009, 08:38 AM)
seriously.. dragon flag is like HELL..  doh.gif manage to do 1x8 reps yesterday.. huhu.. but, really feel the diff compare to crunch/sit up..etc.. it just like complete abs execise..  thumbup.gif

@bata - use ur upper back... what am i doin is.. go up faster and down slowly using ur hand as a support.. and drop ur back when it come to 60-45 degree angle.. dono whether it is the rite technique or not.. but, working for me..  whistling.gif
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjCMq2zkbOo

Like that lah?
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post Mar 29 2009, 12:18 AM

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WAT THE FCUK!
The negatives is just too dammed easy. Did 10 reps. The moment I tried a proper dragon flag, BLURP! Can't even get my torso up.

wtf wtf wtf! Not happeyh!
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 2 2009, 01:38 PM)
deadlift work what part of muscle ? my squat is 87kg and my deadlift is 74kg. Is it that way. Squat heavier than deadlift.
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It just means bad form. An average male, can on average pull 80KG'S the first time with the "stiff legging" method. (wrong form) With good form, my brother (which I consider average) of 17 y/o, BW 68kg could pull 105KG. Another friend, a little more built, pulled 110KG bw of 84
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QUOTE(JonYeap @ Apr 2 2009, 01:49 PM)
110kg? hmmm... =.= 84? hmmm... is it me? muahahhahahha
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Oh yeah, you too. Nah, my another friend from Penang.

QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Apr 2 2009, 01:50 PM)
Already 3 month into strength training and going a bit of bodybuilding. I think I'm doing the correct form. BTW i like your sig quote. "sometimes I vomit but I eat back what I vomit". lol
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It's extremely unusual that someone only deadlifts 74kg with a squat of 84KG. Your legs must take the load when breaking off the floor, then your back comes into action. Unless you have the world's longest torso like a giraffe or you've an extremely weak back, or you're just not keeping the bar closer to your body, it shouldn't have such a bad correlation. Or either that, you're not exerting enough.

Time doesn't count to the knowledge of right form. I've been lifting weights for 3 years. And only 4 months ago, I noticed an irregularity in my wrist causing me to lose a lot of my snatches backwards. Fixing that helped a lot. Also a lot of people that train alone, no coaches, no mirrors, no friends that can critique, have a tendency to THINK, they're doing it right, but truthfully, aren't.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Apr 3 2009, 02:46 AM)
Mongolian don't compare la. Superior genetics. Probs descendent of Genghis Khan (refer to earlier posts in this thread)
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If I describe how he looks, you sure laugh till roll on the floor. I described what my reactions were to the Mongolian's friend, and he also was laughing.

let's just say he has the "this" physique without the gaydor'ness

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He didnt' look like a bodybuilder if you ask me though. Looked more like an athlete.
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post Apr 4 2009, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(N0eL @ Apr 3 2009, 05:43 PM)
Guys,

Saw the dragon flag exercise on this thread and thought that it is interesting.

So I went to try it today coz currently my rest week.

One hell of an abs workout.

So far i realized that there is alot of arm strength involved. Squeeze the back and bend ur knee a little to ensure a straight back.

Here is a video of my attempt. Do comment to correct my form. I gonna incorporate it into my routine ~!  smile.gif


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Isn't the leg supposed to be straight, instead of "lembik"ish looking?
But great job nevertheless.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 7 2009, 07:26 PM)
Form correct. At 70kg.

No warmup, no good stretching. But I did a few quick hands stretching and squat without weights warm up.

I could feel something is not right when my back is hurt, I confirm know my back is already hurt at that time.

Bad day for me.
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Dude, even guys that squat in excess of 200KG'S squat with an empty bar to warmup first.
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QUOTE(bagata @ Apr 8 2009, 05:41 PM)
ic... aiseh... susah wey...

not enuf calorie, cant build muscles, take in too much calorie, fat comes in sweat.gif

gonna try n error then...
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I've managed to gain from 59KG to 77KG with my bodyfat levels being just about the same as it was when I began. Probably slightly higher with 2% more bf but that's probably because I've not watched my diet since the past year. There is a method of doing it, and it's not even as complex or troublesome as the velocity diet and all that.
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You know...can I use this example again? Okay I'll use it. Boxers and a lot of MMA fighters who move up a weight class, actually do it via conditioning circuits? It is probably the only way they will move up a weight class.

This is because bigger boxers have bigger punches but also high conditioning levels. To get stronger but lose your conditioning is akin to buying a riced up R34 without petrol.

Cardio isn't wrong for bulking. It's just excessive cardio that kills it. That's why conditioning circuits are always gold.
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 11 2009, 12:40 PM)
yes. and close this thread. thanks. you're a genius.
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This isn't your thread specifically to ask questions on building traps alone, so no actually this thread has other purposes for other bodybuilders too. Yours can be answered pretty easily especially with the help of uncle google. Here, let me assist you.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=Traps

There's a reference of a variety of exercises useful for building traps.

Here's more references.
http://www.google.com.my/search?q=build+tr...lient=firefox-a

I hope that answers your question.
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 11 2009, 12:47 PM)
gee, thanks.
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You're welcome! Have a good day. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Apr 11 2009, 12:49 PM)
hye guys... sorry man..my college had an internet outtage for a WEEK!! ..SUCKSSSS........ ok..i will post a video soon...
oh yea...

i just deadlifted 80kgs...
i benched 60 and squat 60... and did a 32.5kg dumbell row.... one hand .. smile.gif...

will update my page with progress pics..... now i am on my cutting session

cut down my rice intake to only 1 meal of rice in afternoon..

breakfast....

6 spoons of oats.. 3 spoons of powda milk..... 3 cream crackers crushed....
together with a bunch of sultanas....

my breakfast and dinner here smile.gif..
oh ya..i add 2 scoops of whey to the dinner times....
just did a bunch of cardio...i stride for about 3km..... thn i did 6 x 4 storeys of steps... am gonna post my pic in a month..see how is my progress.....

too much belly and back fatz... !!

still following my normal routine though.....

some few things that ive incorporated...

GVT....... 10x10x weights for 1 exercise....dem..dis really rocks...70% RM
EGGS... 4 per training day...
omega fish oil... 2 caps per training day...

yeapz thats it so far!! peace outz
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Impressive dumbbell rows. But a bit funny seeing your deadlift numbers are a lil on the low side especially compared to your rowing numbers. You sure you're using your back to do this and not your arm to pull instead bro?

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QUOTE(John91 @ May 1 2009, 09:08 AM)
Its here.... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/nick_scott.htm
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Goes to show you can't trust all the stuff you read on bb'ing.com
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QUOTE(-Dan @ May 10 2009, 11:41 AM)
I agree. I think it's easier to learn the techniques using a barbell at first, and slowly moving on to dumbbells.

@cracksys: If you don't have correct form, chances are, more'll go wrong if you use dumbbells rather than barbells. And also, I'm just assuming you're relatively new to lifting, so you should concentrate on the basic types of lifts or compound exercises, ie barbell squats, benchpresses, etc.
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With lighter weights till your form is spot on.
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QUOTE(mofonyx @ May 11 2009, 08:21 AM)
strong people get to do crazy shit because they are strong.

example


If a newbie were to do this, ooooh bad shoulders.

Take loads with a pinch of salt, and yeah ask around like you are right now. smile.gif
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That's about 180 or 200KG's of weights there. For push jerks (They are push jerks, he rebended his knee to catch it)
I think only 105KG and 105KG+ weightlifters can do that. Hell I don't even think Ilya Ilin can do that.
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