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 AMD® Socket-AM2&AM2+ Overclocking V15, More to come..Becareful..

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TSAMDAthlon
post Mar 28 2009, 12:56 AM

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Lol..Future Chipset..so far is 880G which is to come with SB800 i think..
Still wonder..
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post Mar 28 2009, 12:59 AM

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and to back cyberloner's pt:

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AMD took the lessons learned through developing ACC with 65-nm Phenom and baked them into their 45-nm Phenom II silicon. As a result, ACC no longer provides the OC’ing benefits it did previously with 65-nm Phenom parts. In the words of AMD: “you can just as well leave ACC off for Phenom II OC testing. Since, the "go-fast" things we learned from ACC (and those CPU parameter adjustments) were factored into 45nm, the benefit unlocked previously by ACC in 65nm silicon is already being realized without having to use the ACC feature separately.” Over the Christmas holiday (before hearing this from AMD) we’d already attempted OC’ing our Phenom II CPU and sure enough, ACC provided no benefit when OC’ing the processor. We actually thought something was wrong with our 790GX motherboard until we heard back from AMD.


http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_ph...mance/page2.asp

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 28 2009, 12:34 AM)
If i'm not mistaken u gone thru X2 38+ F3>Phenom 9550>Phenom 9850>Phenom 9950>Phenom 9750>Phenom II 720>X2 7750??

You missed out his 9600BE and 9650 i think whistling.gif tongue.gif
Yeah..nowadays AMD love multis more than HTT but not all chips..
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 28 2009, 12:41 AM)
wat does it mean when it becomes like this (the start menu part)???

no oc on the integrated graphic, running the CPU on 4 cores @ 3.3GHz (200 x 16.5)
diff acc value will help bro. cause of this: d crippled core but if u put d correct acc, u won't be seein this kinda thing. smile.gif

QUOTE(cyberloner @ Mar 28 2009, 12:42 AM)
3.6 failure.... so sad...  sad.gif

by the way ah_khoo...
does acc helps for you? i just tried enable all 4 core 2% and auto... both not helping at all...
Does we need add more percent? Just never familiar with ACC yet... and surf a lot web all said it is not helping Phenom II only...
Hope future SB does help P2.... Acc2 maybe  tongue.gif
from what i understand acc add (+%) /minus (-%) voltage from cores. logically it should be +% but not all d times... smile.gif

trial & error is d key, that's what oc is all about isn't it? tongue.gif
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post Mar 28 2009, 01:27 AM

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Thanks.. I'll try it more futher...
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post Mar 28 2009, 01:30 AM

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Phenom II 8 and 7 series user has spoken... laugh.gif

i will lay my back down to hear your guys positive argument on AMD it self...

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post Mar 28 2009, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(verdict @ Mar 28 2009, 01:30 AM)
Phenom II 8 and 7 series user has spoken... laugh.gif

i will lay my back down to hear your guys positive argument on AMD it self...

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post Mar 28 2009, 01:47 AM

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hi all the sifu out there. i'm currently using a x4 810 with biostar ta790gx-128m. i wish to oc it to 3.6. i succeed at 3.12 (240x13) with +0.1 for vcore, 2.1v for ram voltage, downclock my ram to lowest and the rest i leave it default. when i increase it to 278x13 with +0.15 vcore it restart after a few minutes of prime test. wat shud i do to get the 3.6 result?
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post Mar 28 2009, 01:48 AM

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Biostar TA790GX3 A2+
Biostar TA790GX 128M

which one is better ?
i dunno to pick which one.
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post Mar 28 2009, 01:57 AM

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as according to Biostar's website...

GX3 has got 100% solid caps, and DDR3 for SidePort (128M has DDR2)...

other than that, can't really tell the diff...
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QUOTE(zerohunter @ Mar 28 2009, 02:47 AM)
hi all the sifu out there. i'm currently using a x4 810 with biostar ta790gx-128m. i wish to oc it to 3.6. i succeed at 3.12 (240x13) with +0.1 for vcore, 2.1v for ram voltage, downclock my ram to lowest and the rest i leave it default. when i increase it to 278x13 with +0.15 vcore it restart after a few minutes of prime test. wat shud i do to get the 3.6 result?
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Zerohunter dude....

You just follow as bro cyberloner step...
QUOTE(cyberloner @ Mar 28 2009, 12:41 AM)
From what i learn by wasting so much time on the phenom 2, it have a wall on prime95 stable...
Trying to get 3.6 stable is no way at the moment (Hope some new chipset will help such as sb750 helps phenom 1)... even pump +vcore +0.150 +0.175 +0.20 all will get BSOD and restart... tried add cpu-nb as well.. fail...
But my cpu will stay stable at 3562Mhz.... prime for 7 hours without any problem.

Confirm ACC is not helping Phenom II but makes it easy to crash ...
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post Mar 28 2009, 01:59 AM

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btw, bro ah_khoo, i tried +2%, + 4%, +6% on core 1 (0% on the others), and even Auto for ACC, but the problem is still there...

tmr i try more... now too sleepy... lol
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post Mar 28 2009, 02:01 AM

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may i know wat is ACC and how to increase the cpu nb? sorry i'm new amd user. hehe. thx in advance.
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QUOTE(bobiac @ Mar 28 2009, 01:48 AM)
Biostar TA790GX3 A2+
Biostar TA790GX 128M

which one is better ?
i dunno to pick which one.
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vote for GX3
proper GC and CMOS clear jumper placement, unlike 128M where master GC slot at bot(hot!!) + the CMOS clear that block by GC slot.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(zerohunter @ Mar 28 2009, 02:01 AM)
may i know wat is ACC and how to increase the cpu nb? sorry i'm new amd user. hehe. thx in advance.
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ACC = Advanced Clock Calibration

basically there are 6 buses connected to Phenom from the SB750, which can correct the clock of Phenom on the fly...

AMD said the ACC technique has already integrated into Phenom II though...
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QUOTE(astria @ Mar 28 2009, 01:59 AM)
btw, bro ah_khoo, i tried +2%, + 4%, +6% on core 1 (0% on the others), and even Auto for ACC, but the problem is still there...

tmr i try more... now too sleepy... lol
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tmr try -% bro... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cdlim87 @ Mar 28 2009, 02:02 AM)
vote for GX3
proper GC and CMOS clear jumper placement, unlike 128M where master GC slot at bot(hot!!) + the CMOS clear that block by GC slot.. doh.gif
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so i will go for GX3 then.
later i buy all sifu teach me ok.
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post Mar 28 2009, 02:10 AM

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thx for the guide. will try it tmr. quite sleepy now. take k
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 28 2009, 01:56 AM)
Lol..Future Chipset..so far is 880G which is to come with SB800 i think..
Still wonder..
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TS please update my 3.7G OC on deneb...later will provide you my SS...

3.7G running on Air...on WC setup later...ekekeke...

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post Mar 28 2009, 02:25 AM

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I still back to my point ... ACC is not really useful here. More easy to crash than stabilize the cpu here.
Just sharing not argue =P
-2 -2 -2 -2
+2 +2 +2 +2
0 0 0 +2
+12 +12 +12 +12
-4 -4 -4 -4
All will get more easier to hang and bsod....

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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Mar 28 2009, 02:25 AM)
I still back to my point ... ACC is not really useful here. More easy to crash than stabilize the cpu here.
Just sharing not argue =P
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what's d bios date bro? hmm.gif



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