I wonder if the heritage folks will thank you for having a BH in Penang so your swiftlets have reduced the chances of them winged termites frm finding a mate to start a new colony in a mostly wooden heritage building?
With the amount of insects they gorge for each meal, I also wonder how much swiftlets contribute towards the reduction of dengue cases in the country.
Maybe the PBTs ought to pay each BH some money for vector control.
The same amount the PBTs pay the contractor to fog housing areas will be a good starting amount.
I swear that the fogging brings more mosquitoes than reduce.
Each time my area get fogged, I get more mosquitoes an hour after.
The fogging seem to kill more lizards than mosquitoes and they still wonder why dengue fever is still on the increase.
Wonder if anyone monitor the effectiveness of the fogging.
The way they having conducted the fogging, the mozzies would have gained resistance already.
Just recall a news report some time ago of a wise guy who wanted to invite some Brits over who wanted to introduce genetically modified mosquitoes to control dengue in Malaysia.

Our birds do not leave the smell of diesel and chemical stains everywhere and for final human ingestion.
I have ingested and breathed in so much of chemical in the fog, I may one day sweat insecticide.
After each fogging I have recurring nightmare of my BH having 1 giant swiftlet that build tyre-size nest.

Hackwire,
I understand it as the AGM of the Malaysian Federation of Associations of Birds Nests Merchants.
Some local BH association also are members of this 'umbrella' association.
Each member association is eligible to send 3 representatives of the local associations to the AGM.
As such you need to be a member of a local association first.
Unc WW,
Pls correct if my understanding is wrong.

Bring it on!
They are being chicken and not publishing rebuttals and updates on their blog!

Can someone do a translation please?
Thks

htc,
thks

Unc WW,
Perhilitan's website shows status quo
Export licence is still issued thru Perhilitan and not thru the vets services
http://www.wildlife.gov.my/index.php/bm/co...g-layang-layang

Jo Yeo,
Why dun you share what you are doing differently.
Most folks here like to tinker with new toys and methods.
At least it provides us momentary distraction frm all the worrisome events lately.

CK,
thks for the alert.
Some more EBN news and the now 'missing frm Parliament site' bill to amend the Road Transport Act.

1)177 person Terengganu trade delegation to China to sell among other things, EBN. Maybe Eco parks too and also to firm up their EBN export monopoly??
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/art.../24tra/Article/

2)There was also another attempt at monopoly in the already yanked (removed frm Parliament site) Road Transport Act Amendment
New section 13a
8. The principal Act is amended by inserting after section 13 the following section:
“Registration number plate
13a. (1) The Director General shall, on application, assign a registration number plate to a motor vehicle registered under this Act.
(2) No person shall—
(a) manufacture or produce a registration number plate unless authorized by the Director General to do so;
(b) distribute or sell a registration number plate to another person; or
© affix a registration number plate on a registered
motor vehicle other than the registration number plate assigned by the Director General under subsection (1).
Road Transport (Amendment) 5
(3) A Any person who contravenes subsection (2) shall be guilty of an offence and shall on conviction be liable to a fine of not less than twenty thousand ringgit and not more than fifty thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year and not more than three years or to both.”.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jmmwtykzwby/DR 15 2010 - Eng.pdf

RANG UNDANG-UNDANG PEMULIHARAAN HIDUPAN LIAR 2010
Bacaan Kali Yang Pertama
Rang undang-undang bernama suatu akta untuk mengadakan peruntukan bagi perlindungan dan pemuliharaan hidupan
dan bagi perkara-perkara yang berkaitan dengannya;
dibawa ke dalam Mesyuarat oleh Timbalan Menteri Sumber Asli dan Alam Sekitar [Tan Sri Datuk Seri Panglima Joseph Kurup];
dibaca kali yang pertama; akan dibacakan kali yang kedua pada Mesyuarat akan datang.
DR. 21.4.2010
Timbalan Yang di-Pertua [Datuk Ronald Kiandee]: Baiklah. Dijemput Yang Berhormat
Timbalan Menteri untuk membawakan Usul.
USUL
WAKTU MESYUARAT DAN URUSAN DIBEBASKAN DARIPADA PERATURAN MESYUARAT
10.06 pg.
Timbalan Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri [Datuk Liew Vui Keong]: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon mencadangkan:
“Bahawa mengikut Peraturan Mesyuarat 12(1), Majlis Mesyuarat pada hari ini tidak akan ditangguhkan sehingga jam 9.30 malam dan selepas itu
mesyuarat akan ditangguhkan sehingga jam 10 pagi, hari Khamis, 22 April 2010.”
Timbalan Menteri Sumber Asli dan Alam Sekitar [Tan Sri Datuk Seri Panglima Joseph Kurup]: Tuan Yang di-Pertua, saya mohon menyokong.
Timbalan Yang di-Pertua [Datuk Ronald Kiandee]: Ahli-ahli Yang Berhormat, sekarang saya kemukakan masalah kepada Majlis untuk diputuskan. Masalahnya ialah usul seperti yang dikemukakan tadi hendaklah disetujukan.
Usul dikemuka bagi diputuskan; dan disetujukan.

Read more frm parliament hansard
http://www.parlimen.gov.my/hindex/pdf/DR-21042010.pdf

Anybody got the contents of the proposed changes?
I can't find it on the Parliament site.

You are now in Bastogne.
When the war is over we shall have the equivalent of the Nuremberg trials.
Curahee!

I recall reading ....unadulterated birdnest soup is, so by inference so is birdnest.
Not my personal interpretation..merely the recollection of an unqualified sinful mortal.
I like my birdnest soup with a dash of alcohol free whiskey.

If you dont believe me, just google for "alcohol free whiskey"

This post has been edited by Cergau: Apr 24 2010, 10:59 AM

There was a post here sometime that this very same setup was used successfully.
Except a strobe light was used in place.

But...I was thinking, can it be reconfigured with a robotic begging arm-hand-palm (combo) and the sensor to pick up BN politicians?
It shd work like this....once sensor detects BN politicians, the arm will reach out with palm open...
If so, I want a dozen, I wanna install them now in Hulu Selangor. (can deliver this afternoon?)
I hope they are durable and can last a few by-elections?
Cost is not a consideration, will be paid for by all of yr tax money frm nest collection and income will pay for it.

No offence to WW.

"After understanding it now".... means...he will not proceed with the 'moving' OR
he has understood and will seek further counsel.
When confronted, they will claim being misled.
This seems to be the often repeated favorite excuse!

Being so close to the MB and as a national official, isnt it his job to pro-actively position the industry positively with the MB?
Where is the MB getting his counsel from?

All,
Let's have some self help here.
I have supplied the links to the Bill below
o)WILDLIFE CONSERVATION BILL 2010 (English)
o)RANG UNDANG-UNDANG PEMULIHARAAN HIDUPAN LIAR 2010 (B Malaysia)
http://www.parlimen.gov.my/billindexbi/pdf/DR162010E.pdf
http://www.parlimen.gov.my/billindex/pdf/DR162010.pdf

1)Let's all scrutinise it
2)Discuss the clauses here on the Forum & hope to finish it by end of Sunday/25/Apr?
3)If any objections, we will each go back to our own MP with the objection or alternative amendment if available.

An hour for the sake of your investment?
Salient points
1)This is a new Act when passed by Parliament
2)This will replace Protection of WildLife Act 76.
3)Applies to Peninsular M'sia and FTs only.

Enjoy.

I recall an article I read years ago of an actual bank vault door that were taken on by a group of burglars.
Yes, vault doors are now made with a sandwich of various material.
In this particular incident, the burglars ran out of gas for the torch trying to geth thru this layer (after getting thru a number of layers).
Unknown to them a hammer at this stage would break that particular layer
Cos it was made of some space-age material that can withstand very high temperatures but not whacks from a hammer.

I have this particular experience of a bank vault the floor space of a single storey house.
One day a huge flood occurred, water leaked thru the ceiling into the vault!!
Moral of the story...the vault was as strong as it's weakest point...which in this case...the concrete roof which was the floor slab of the floor above.
Getting thru the door would haven a long time, but if one were hack thru the roof slab, that would be much easier.

My take on the current state of physical enhancement used are only effective to delay than prevent.
Whilst a secondary security system is used (upon break-in) to alert the owner for any subsequent action.
I think it's been commented enuff here there's no way to prevent a determined thief.
Also I recall a report that ropes were left behind after a theft, guess where they entered through?

Also another posting of electrification of the obvious entrances for both owls and burglars...stepped down voltage?
How does one defeat a grappling hook attached to a 1/8 inch steel cable?
Dun know of any legal precedence of burglars killed by booby trapping.
That too can be defeated by cutting off power.

Any security gizmos require power, as such a standalone backup power will be preferable?
I figure that the least broken into BHs are the ones with a stay-in resident.
I am aware that not many will not be willing to discuss their measures in the fear of being defeated.
But a determined thief will probe your BH weaknesses until the chink in the armor is found.

I realise there are desperate thieves and brutal robbers who would not hesitate to inflict physical harm...
But if one has taken all sensible measures, the rest will be calculated and acceptable risks, similar to driving, taking a flight..etc.
Living among politicians in theiur human form is an unavoidable risk, they may bite and give you rabies or kill you thru a heart attack.
YET Perhilitan has yet to categorise parliament a zoo and the inhabitants wildlife.

Which brings me to the Wildlife Conservation Act 2010 Bill.
No one has any concerns and happy if it goes thru with the 2nd and 3rd reading in Parliament and be gazetted to become law?

All,
Fuciphagus is now protected in the existing Act. (Protection of Wildlife Act 76)
In my reading of the new Act (Bill) Fuciphagus is no longer a protected specie. (Wildlife Conservation Act 2010)
Raise public awareness by all means, but get our facts right else we lose credibility.

Then again this new Act applies to Pen M'sia & Labuan only.

This post has been edited by Cergau: Apr 28 2010, 11:45 AM

Dear WW,
This is part of the new Act,
try proving what's in a person's mind when they tear yr BH down and destroys a good part of it?

Protection against suit and legal proceedings
128. No action shall lie or prosecution shall be brought, instituted
or maintained in any court against—
(a) an enforcement officer or officer; and
(b) any other person for or on account of or in respect of
any act done or purported to be done by him under the
order, direction or instruction of an enforcement officer
or officer,
if the act was done in good faith and in a reasonable belief that
it was necessary for the purpose intended to be served by it and
for the carrying into effect the provisions of this Act.

As it stands ALL PBTs can tear down any 'illegal' structures.
From the DRAFT 1GP we already get a feel on what will be included in the final form to render a lot of buildings illegal if unable to comply.

So we have 2 equally powerful Govt depts 'developing' the industry.
So BANTU becomes BANTUT


This post has been edited by Cergau: Apr 28 2010, 02:04 PM

It's an extract of the Bill.
I have already provided the doc link to Parliament in a prev post.



This post has been edited by Cergau: Apr 28 2010, 04:16 PM

If only it was just mere interesting... and not the calamity as BenChai has warned.
Pen M'sia has a major change coming on...how bad has yet to be determined as there is still little feedback.

Whereas in East M'sia what they have faced before they are going to face again soon.
And they do not have sight of a change to pin their hopes on.

Only consolation is, we (pen M'sia) will have the company of our East M'sia bros when 1GP is added on to our woes.



This post has been edited by Cergau: Apr 28 2010, 11:47 PM

Licensing
What justification does Perhilitan has to continue licensing over an unprotected specie?
Requirement for licence
9. (1) Subject to the provisions of this Act, no person shall—
(a) hunt or keep any protected wildlife;
(b) take or keep any part or derivative of any protected
wildlife;
© collect birds’ nests;
(d) carry on the business of dealing;
(e) carry on the taxidermy business;
(f) import, export or re-export any protected wildlife or any
part or derivative of any protected wildlife,

They are already doing a poor job of even keeping the cave swiftlets population steady, they have no business lording over BH swiftlets,
They should instead concentrate their resources on the cave swiftlets.
If not for commercial BH, Fuciphagus would soon be going the way of the Dodo bird.
Does anyone know of any of Perhilitan's success story of turning around a threatened specie?
Do we even trust them enuff to even have responsibility over AF?

As Ben Chai has mentioned of the imminent action in S'wak.
They continue to enforce a law that works against their objective of protecting the specie.
Hello, BHs help conserve swiftlets not harm them.
Since it's a state law, arent the ADUNs being petitioned to change it.
S'wak having state election soon? Why settle for no enforcement.
Demand the state law be changed/amended to be relevant and current to CITES.
It shows malicious intent on the part of the enforcer to cont enforcing an antiquated law, despite
the knowledge that the state law has not kept current with CITES. Take them to court, S'wak's justice system
has not shown itself as tainted as Pen's

They even can tell you when to harvest
(d) the times during which, and the places where, any wildlife
may be hunted, or the nest or egg of any wildlife may
be taken;

Talking of eggs, I dun see leather back turtles (Dermochelys coriacea) in the any of the schedules.
Has it been licensed to virtual extinction, and their eggs continue to be sold in markets.

And the worst...the proposed licensing regime
The approving officer can at anytime introduce any additional conditions as he sees fit
There is no specific requirement in the Act for the approving officer to supply the reason for application being rejected.
You can appeal but the Minister's decision is final. How to appeal if you dun know the reason?
So the process is a blackbox, up to the whims and fancy of the approving officer.
Banyak cantik.!!!!
This is NOT acceptable, all conditions must be known beforehand......not made up along the way.
Any rejections must be supplied a reason and not just the decision as stated now.

It's proposed that they can rescind the license anytime.
If so then we shdnt be asked to renew the license annually (or any period they so decide later.)
They shd enforce the law at all time and actively put such offenders on notice for license rescinding.
Doesnt it make more sense? They will be less offenders than non-offenders.
Why punish all the non offenders by asking to go renew upon expiry. Only the offenders need to go justify their case.
License shd be good for life until rescinded.

This post has been edited by Cergau: Apr 29 2010, 09:11 AM