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post Jul 21 2010, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jul 21 2010, 11:54 PM)
So do you guys think that the totem will stops spinning?
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i think its reality since it wobbles...
my interpretation is pretty much straight forward based on wut i've watched without over thinking haha...
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post Jul 22 2010, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jul 21 2010, 11:59 PM)
i think its reality since it wobbles...
my interpretation is pretty much straight forward based on wut i've watched without over thinking haha...
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Do you do the same for SC SC2? tongue.gif

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post Jul 22 2010, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Jul 22 2010, 12:06 AM)
Do you do the same for SC SC2?  tongue.gif
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if u read back this thread u can see several discussion on possible interpretation...
at one point, i determine that Mal was right lol...
decided to stop thinking too much haha...

sc2 at times simple is the best haha...
too fancy BOs get u owned by simple rushes...

ps: simplicity is a complex idea (quote from a fren of mine)

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post Jul 22 2010, 12:24 AM

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You're waiting for a train.
A train that will take you far away.
You don't know where it will take you, but it doesn't matter.
Because we'll be together.

i like this lines....it felt beautiful, and yet how it was meant so literally in the movie swt...
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post Jul 22 2010, 12:25 AM

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2nd time watching this today..
yeah, understand a lot more but still not clear/blur in some part..
and not boring at all even after the 2nd time hehe
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post Jul 22 2010, 12:37 AM

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gona watch 3rd time this weekend =D it didn't feel boring at all during the 2nd time
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post Jul 22 2010, 12:50 AM

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Inception’s Dileep Rao Answers All Your Questions About Inception : http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/...ao_answers.html
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post Jul 22 2010, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Jul 22 2010, 12:50 AM)
Inception’s Dileep Rao Answers All Your Questions About Inception : http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/...ao_answers.html
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finally it explains some questions like the limbo part...
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post Jul 22 2010, 01:19 AM

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any ideas on the time calculation?
10 secs
3 minutes
1 hour.

OR

1 week
6 months
10 years.
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QUOTE(synchun @ Jul 22 2010, 01:19 AM)
any ideas on the time calculation?
10 secs
3 minutes
1 hour.

OR

1 week
6 months
10 years.
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time is roughly 20x faster in subsequent level
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post Jul 22 2010, 01:56 AM

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From the article above:

"Everyone's so concerned about whether the top falls or not, but no one seems to care that Leo walked away without caring. The moment he sees their face, he can walk away. That's testimony to the fact that he's gained that faith."

Quoted for truth


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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 21 2010, 11:21 PM)
Well the action in Batman Begins sucked as well. He improved in TDK, though most people still say the action there sucked. I dunno, but I liked the prison transfer sequence in TDK. Certain parts of it lacked a visual grasp but for the most part it was tense and chaotic... in a good way, I felt. It had three of the film's coolest moments too- Batpod emerging from the Tumbler wreckage, the semi truck doing the flip, and the batpod doing a different flip off the wall. The other fight scenes in TDK dont fare as good in my books, although I found them more watchable in repeat viewings.
Weird thing about Nolan. This is his second movie in which he saves the best action scene for the middle. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Jul 22 2010, 12:50 AM)
Inception’s Dileep Rao Answers All Your Questions About Inception : http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/...ao_answers.html
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Digging a little deeper into the story now, can you walk me through whose dream is whose?
Okay. So first there's reality. We get on the plane. We go to sleep. Then we're in my dream, Yusuf's dream. Because my pee urge causes it to rain. That's how I see it. The architecture is Ariadne's (Ellen Page's) design, but it's my dream. Then we drop down a level and go to the bar, to the hotel. I think we're in Arthur's (Joseph Gorden-Levitt's) dream at that point. Then — this is where it gets mind-bending — we drop down into Fischer's (Cillian Murphy's) dream, even though he thinks they're going to Browning's (Tom Berenger's) dream.

There seems to be a rule of thumb, then, that whoever "sticks around" in a level, that person had to be the dreamer, right? It's why you're stuck driving the van and Joseph Gordon-Levitt chills out in the hotel.
I think that's a great signifier and it makes the most sense, because how the hell would it continue on that level if the person who was dreaming took off?

But that made me think the third level, the snow fort, was Eames's (Tom Hardy's) dream.
Except in the hotel room, Ellen Page asks whose subconscious we're going into, and Cobb answers, "Fischer's."

You're right, it has to be Fischer's, because that's the level where they're planning to do the inception. That also means that in the hotel room, when Browning is talking to Fischer, we're actually watching —
— an internal debate going on in Fischer's mind. He's filling Joseph Gordon-Levitt's dream with his subconscious. And then one level down, in the snow of his own mind, he drops down to limbo when he dies, which means your rule of thumb isn't quite right. Because Mal shoots him, which means Cobb's own subconscious has taken Fischer to limbo.


I disagree with him on that part. I think how dream-sharing works is that there is a dreamer, but there is also a subject. The dreamer is in control of the dream, but it's the subject's subconscious that is being explored - remember in the Paris dream, the environment was Ariadne's but the people were Cobb's. In a mind-heist, the mark is always the subject, never the dreamer. So yes, they were going into Fischer's subconscious, but via Eames' dream.

I think... rclxub.gif



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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 22 2010, 01:58 AM)
Weird thing about Nolan. This is his second movie in which he saves the best action scene for the middle.  laugh.gif


Added on July 22, 2010, 2:08 am
I disagree with him on that part. I think how dream-sharing works is that there is a dreamer, but there is also a subject. The dreamer is in control of the dream, but it's the subject's subconscious that is being explored - remember in the Paris dream, the environment was Ariadne's but the people were Cobb's. In a mind-heist, the mark is always the subject, never the dreamer. So yes, they were going into Fischer's subconscious, but via Eames' dream.

I think...  rclxub.gif
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yup you are right i tot that too
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Will wait for bluray to come out lah
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watched twice already i think i want to watch for third time if i can drag anyone to watch along with me lol
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post Jul 22 2010, 09:40 AM

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watched this last nite with my fren, i think this movie is great but don't know y my fren can fallen asleep?!?! only got 1 question, Saito needs to know about what in the safety box?
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Pretty good and entertaining movie!

I'd give it a 4 1/2 stars
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Watched 2nd time, the totem wobbles in the end, and looses spinning power. So it might be real. But as someone said earlier, the kids dont age. 1 more thing, in the beginning, we can hear a women's voice, but in the end the voice is nowhere to be heard??? As a father wasnt it odd if he doesnt know his kid's face???

another thing i dont quite understand. The kick is actually the fall. When they demo the kick/fall, when arthur fall during sleep mood, he will wake up, so its like if I fall in this level, the "me" in 1 level below will dissapear. This explains a lot, but not the last level, when fisher and ariardne fall off the building. Shouldnt it be at the level above them??? Or its the demo that has gone wrong???

On 2 occasion Cobb didnt manage to spin the totem, one is the toilet part, the other 1 is when he and ariardne visits his prison of memory.
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it's like how you can wake up in real life dream, in dream you can either wake up with a sensation of falling in your own dream or being killed, you never experience death in your dreams no?

the "kick" that can wake you up from dreams can also be in real life for instance you're sleeping on a hammock and suddenly the you fell from the hammock and you wakes up.

well... at least that's what I understand XD
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jul 22 2010, 12:17 AM)
ps: simplicity is a complex idea (quote from a fren of mine)
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I so love this line. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(dlct87 @ Jul 22 2010, 12:24 AM)
You're waiting for a train.
A train that will take you far away.
You don't know where it will take you, but it doesn't matter.
Because we'll be together.

i like this lines....it felt beautiful, and yet how it was meant so literally in the movie swt...
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Yeah man, something so gentle can be so brutal as well. sweat.gif

QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jul 22 2010, 01:58 AM)
Weird thing about Nolan. This is his second movie in which he saves the best action scene for the middle.  laugh.gif


Added on July 22, 2010, 2:08 am
I disagree with him on that part. I think how dream-sharing works is that there is a dreamer, but there is also a subject. The dreamer is in control of the dream, but it's the subject's subconscious that is being explored - remember in the Paris dream, the environment was Ariadne's but the people were Cobb's. In a mind-heist, the mark is always the subject, never the dreamer. So yes, they were going into Fischer's subconscious, but via Eames' dream.

I think...  rclxub.gif
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Which begs the question. How come only Fisher's projections appear in all the dreams? We've seen how Cobb can project the train, his kids. We've seen how they can project their own weapons. So we know the other dreamers can project into the dream as well.

QUOTE(Gorila_ @ Jul 22 2010, 10:40 AM)
Watched 2nd time, the totem wobbles in the end, and looses spinning power. So it might be real. But as someone said earlier, the kids dont age. 1 more thing, in the beginning, we can hear a women's voice, but in the end the voice is nowhere to be heard??? As a father wasnt it odd if he doesnt know his kid's face???

another thing i dont quite understand. The kick is actually the fall. When they demo the kick/fall, when arthur fall during sleep mood, he will wake up, so its like if I fall in this level, the "me" in 1 level below will dissapear. This explains a lot, but not the last level, when fisher and ariardne fall off the building. Shouldnt it be at the level above them??? Or its the demo that has gone wrong???

On 2 occasion Cobb didnt manage to spin the totem, one is the toilet part, the other 1 is when he and ariardne visits his prison of memory.
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Ariadne & Fisher jumping off building = Limbo -> Level 3
Exploding Snow Fortress = Level 3 -> Level 2
Falling elevator = Level 2 -> Level 1
Falling van = Level 1 -> Reality

I think .... unsure.gif

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