Life is simple. Human's make it complex (As the evidence can be seen in this thread.
Movies Inception | The Dark Knight director sci-fi pic, Warner Brothers wants Inception 2 ?
Movies Inception | The Dark Knight director sci-fi pic, Warner Brothers wants Inception 2 ?
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Jul 22 2010, 11:26 AM
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How bout this.
Life is simple. Human's make it complex (As the evidence can be seen in this thread. |
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Jul 22 2010, 11:29 AM
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New Scientist looks into the science of dream and inception
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/culturel...-of-dreams.html |
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Jul 22 2010, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Jul 22 2010, 12:50 AM) Inception’s Dileep Rao Answers All Your Questions About Inception : http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/...ao_answers.html Damn, even the cast cant come up with a conclusive explanation to some of the concepts, like limbo.QUOTE You're right, it has to be Fischer's, because that's the level where they're planning to do the inception. That also means that in the hotel room, when Browning is talking to Fischer, we're actually watching — — an internal debate going on in Fischer's mind. He's filling Joseph Gordon-Levitt's dream with his subconscious. And then one level down, in the snow of his own mind, he drops down to limbo when he dies, which means your rule of thumb isn't quite right. Because Mal shoots him, which means Cobb's own subconscious has taken Fischer to limbo. Shit, and I was convinced the dreamer couldn't leave his dream space without it collapsing. If that were true, and level 3 was indeed Fischer's dream, that whole level would be kaput the moment he went into limbo. Oh well, at least we don't have to take Rao's answers as gospel. QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jul 22 2010, 11:22 AM) Which begs the question. How come only Fisher's projections appear in all the dreams? We've seen how Cobb can project the train, his kids. We've seen how they can project their own weapons. So we know the other dreamers can project into the dream as well. I think perhaps, the others could control their projections. Fischer, unaware he was in a dream, couldn't. Cobb couldn't, because he simply couldn't control his subconscious. That dream in paris where Cobb was teaching Araidne? I think he deliberately filled the space with normal projections, just to give Ariadne a feel of the real dream world. But he couldn't control the projection of Mal.Anyway, I know why the impact when the van went into the bridge's railing didn't wake up the others, but how come it didn't wake Arthur up? He was conscious in the level directly below. |
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Jul 22 2010, 11:59 AM
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Jul 22 2010, 12:15 PM
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Mathematically, I don't understand how Level 2 would register a longer time in real life (5 minutes in Level 2 means 1 week in real life for example). Especially when Level 1 would mean shorter in real (1 hour in Level 1 means 5 minutes in real life).
Or is it just me? I think that guy earlier needs to watch "Are you smarter than a 5th Grader?". |
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Jul 22 2010, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Jul 22 2010, 11:59 AM) he was going to join the club yesterday, what happen?? |
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Jul 22 2010, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 22 2010, 12:15 PM) Mathematically, I don't understand how Level 2 would register a longer time in real life (5 minutes in Level 2 means 1 week in real life for example). Especially when Level 1 would mean shorter in real (1 hour in Level 1 means 5 minutes in real life). Young mah Or is it just me? I think that guy earlier needs to watch "Are you smarter than a 5th Grader?". Added on July 22, 2010, 12:19 pm QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 22 2010, 12:18 PM) probably got flag or just piss at someone... whoops... i think i expose myself This post has been edited by hairyLGS: Jul 22 2010, 12:20 PM |
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Jul 22 2010, 12:22 PM
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Then again, it was in Kopitiam. Anything in it, is not meant to be believed.
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Jul 22 2010, 12:34 PM
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Jul 22 2010, 12:35 PM
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Jul 22 2010, 12:36 PM
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Jul 22 2010, 12:37 PM
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why are you guys discussing it like theres no tomorrow?
i get it. the movie is mindfucuk. i love it too. but u guys are wayyyy too much. its just a movie. |
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Jul 22 2010, 12:39 PM
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Jul 22 2010, 12:40 PM
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Jul 22 2010, 12:41 PM
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Jul 22 2010, 12:41 PM
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Jul 22 2010, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jul 22 2010, 12:15 PM) Mathematically, I don't understand how Level 2 would register a longer time in real life (5 minutes in Level 2 means 1 week in real life for example). Especially when Level 1 would mean shorter in real (1 hour in Level 1 means 5 minutes in real life). erm the time in subsequent multiply by 20x, Or is it just me? I think that guy earlier needs to watch "Are you smarter than a 5th Grader?". in the movie its mentioned: level 1: 10secs level 2: 5mins level 3: 1 hr |
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Jul 22 2010, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(QuickFire @ Jul 22 2010, 11:58 AM) Damn, even the cast cant come up with a conclusive explanation to some of the concepts, like limbo. In regards to projections, i think thats the case. If you are part of the extractor team and aware of being in a dream then you can easily control what to project. But there is always the danger of your subconscious becoming self aware and tries to end the dream. This fits into Cobb's explanation that if you try to change things rapidly, then the subconscious becomes rapidly aware of what is going on and becomes haywire. Shit, and I was convinced the dreamer couldn't leave his dream space without it collapsing. If that were true, and level 3 was indeed Fischer's dream, that whole level would be kaput the moment he went into limbo. Oh well, at least we don't have to take Rao's answers as gospel. I think perhaps, the others could control their projections. Fischer, unaware he was in a dream, couldn't. Cobb couldn't, because he simply couldn't control his subconscious. That dream in paris where Cobb was teaching Araidne? I think he deliberately filled the space with normal projections, just to give Ariadne a feel of the real dream world. But he couldn't control the projection of Mal. Anyway, I know why the impact when the van went into the bridge's railing didn't wake up the others, but how come it didn't wake Arthur up? He was conscious in the level directly below. I dont think Dileep is right about Fischer being the dreamer. He was the subject for all the levels; meaning it was his subconscious populating the dream levels that was created by various team members. The snow level was indeed Eames's dream but it was Fischer's subconscious populating the level. This help explains the various security inconsistencies in the film. When in level one, his military training didnt kick in until he was kidnapped. When he realizes he was in danger, his subconscious tries to set him free of the anxiety attack. Once he was knocked out in level one, his dream resets to level 2 which also resets the 'alarm' in level 2 (but not in level 1). Initially in level 2, his military training was kept in check due to him not being aware of what of what was going on. But as Cobb explains to him about what was was going on, his anxiety starts to creep once again and this sets off his military self defense mechanism. In level 3, he was fully aware that he was in a dream and this right away triggers his defense mechanism and it goes into search and destroy mode. |
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Jul 22 2010, 01:46 PM
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watch last night..
Guess majority of the people are watching the effects and visual rather than really understand the movie message...(during or after the movie) overall a crap movie i regret watch! This post has been edited by beandy: Jul 22 2010, 01:54 PM |
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Jul 22 2010, 01:57 PM
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lol, suddenly this thread has become RWI liao haha... everyone so serious
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