What is the material of the NNs like?

Plastic (PU)? or velvet?

Normally velvet or lextra namesets have only 1 size.

Nevermind, take photos of the letters.. place a ruler on the side of one of the letters. Then take photo.

We can then later compare.

Actually I want to know what is the measurement of the letters. You should measure them first, take a photo and share it with us.. or just inform us what is the height of the letters. Since you were the one who was concerned with the nameset's size that is printed on to the jersey.

To understand more, check out this chart:


Apologies for the quality of the chart.

From the chart, it actually shows this:

PLAYERS SIZE (Process: Lextra)
Letters: 53mm
Numbers: 258mm
Short Numbers: 104mm
Players Name: 53mm

ADULT REPLICA (Process: PU)
Letters: 47mm
Numbers: 230mm
Short Numbers: 104mm
Players Name: 47mm

JUNIOR REPLICA (Process: Lextra & PU)
Numbers: 165mm
Players Name: 34mm

So from this, you can see that there are 3 categories of EPL namesets. Which is player sizes, adult replica and junior replica.

See the measurement details.. the letters for player sizes are 53mm tall and numbers are 258mm tall.

The letters and numbers sold at local stores are all players size. Since only player size namesets are lextra material.

Jerseys applied with epl namesets from kitbag/united direct use adult replica namesets.. which are smaller and uses PU (thin plastic material).

So you can measure again the namesets on your jersey and see if it's replica or player size.

You can order from kitbag/united direct.

It's below RM400, so should be safe.

Depends... but overall not so much difference

Yup. They have the store in Singapore.

It's genuine laa...

The NNs will be PU type. Not worth it..

I just bought one at Hytex Studio (Nike boutique store) at Sunway Piramid. Got one L size left. Selling for RM181.30

BTW they have a membership scheme where you can get 10% discount for any nike or adidas products sold by hytex studio. So if you want to buy the new man utd home jersey with 10% discount (will be RM259 x 0.9 = RM233.10) subscirbe their membership, they will give you a card and then for the next purchase you can use it.

Will share with you guys later more info on this.. Jerseyman is on the road at the moment (heading back to my wife's hometown in penang).. maxis broadband got excellent coverage along the PLUS highway

1. Adults Men is RM259. Kids size is cheaper but it is smaller (aig, nike, club logo all smaller)
2. Yes you can
3. Yes you can. Check the first page for the prices and more info.

Guys... as I wrote in the thread's subtitle.. please ALWAYS check the first page for infos and guides.... sometimes your questions are already answered there.

Have a good weekend!

Only the UCL nameset for the white away kit is not PU.

Yup but the kids sizing jerseys, the size of the nike swoosh, club crest and sponsors are smaller.

Maybe.

If not mistaken shipping to Malaysia using Royal Mail International Signed For was GBP9. Not sure if they have changed it.

It's 100% authentic.

Re-quoting what I said earlier:

Only players size namesets are made by lextra. Real one and al-ikhsan are selling lextra type namesets. So you now should get the point.

Not sure what happened but you can try fixing it..

Flip your jersey inside out, sprinkle some water and then iron press the letters beneath the area where the letters sits... Ironing it will smoothen the surface of the nameset and also make the glue bond better.

No need to worry. It's normal.

About the placement.. No comments. I normally do my nameset printing by myself, except for some delicate PU namesets. But from what I see, I think the placement is ok.. remember this is a small sized jersey.

Yes, that is lextra. Why are you confused?

Lextra vs PU (polyurethane or thin plastic) is so different...

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jul 26 2009, 10:18 PM

I prefer lextra or it's new name, Senscillia.

Because it is more durable than PU. PU is a very thin plastic layer.. it can be ruined easily. If you sit on a leather seat, be extra careful if you are wearing a football jersey with PU typed nameset printed on the back of the jersey you're wearing. I have friends who ruined their jerseys because of this, where the PU nameset will stick on to the leather seat.

Ironing can also ruin it, if you accidentally touched the top surface of the PU nameset with your iron. It will melt.

Lextra namesets can also be ruined too... it is sturdy and solid but if you mistakenly iron on stitched areas such as the 3 stripes on the jersey's sleeves (for previous adidas jerseys), there is a risk that it can cause the EPL patch to crack. Which is why adidas decided to produce jerseys with gaps near the areas where the patches sits on the sleeves... a good move by adidas.

But overall, lextra or senscillia namesets and patches are more favoured by jerseyman.

Nope. UCL namesets for the blue third and home kit last season was PU.

Let me quote back what I said in page 81, post #1615 (Link: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/933093/+1615#):

It's velvet material.

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jul 27 2009, 02:01 PM

Since it's velvet.. it should be better than PU.

It's thinner than lextra but it's a better material than PU.

There is one difference.

Previously all lextra typed nameset or patches has a thin plastic protective film on top of it.

Now, for senscillia nameset/patches, the plastic protective film is no longer there. Good example would be the CWC patch.

To be precise.. the letters should be a bit closer because the nameset of the man united jerseys are all pre-arranged.. which means they all come in sets like the blue namesets last season... even for the white ones.

So Albert Morgan just applies them easily... they all come in sets, so the arrangement should be close between the letters.

Only for certain unique names like MACHEDA, I saw last season where clearly it was a pre-customized letters + numbers, not the usual namesets that comes in sets.... since MACHEDA was a new player and a new nameset.

Look closely at the jerseys actually worn by the man united players, they all are arranged closely.

This is a different case for other teams... like Portsmouth and Liverpool, I can see the letters have gaps.. It's the best to check first by looking at the photos (such as from getty images) to see how a particular nameset is applied. Sometimes even a titsy bitsy small detail can be a hassle. Example:

How do you arrange the dot '.' in the J.S.Park nameset? Is the dot placed middle or closer to the letters on the left?

Which is why I prefer to DIY my namesets myself. Not only it saves cost but also it is from my own personal satisfaction.

Anyway no need to worry so much on the EVRA thingy.. No worries, as long as it is authentic, no problem!

Hehehe..

People have been asking me this, saying that I can make money out of it..

But to be honest, not sure if you guys would be interested with my methods...

I do my work on the floor, I use masking tape, I use a DIY template (I know some 'otais' make fun out of my template, including the previous method of using my songkok's casing cap) and I use a small handy iron (not a big bulky machine) to do my work.

I'll share with you guys my latest work.. just for useful info (not showing off.. because anyone can do it and there's no secret on doing it).


You can learn.. it's not that hard.. trust me.

The likes of pyroboy1911 who was a newbie once, then later learned how to do it and now can do his own DIY NNs.. is a good example. I don't want to be the master alone, would love to see you guys be an expert as well...

Agreed... the best place to do it, is at al-ikhsan BB plaza or at Real One.

Look for Ahmad (long haired dark skin guy) at al-ikhsan or Daud (Kak Zaitun's brother.. pakistani or arabic looks with spiky hair..) at Real One. These two guys are 2 of the best around. Others like Sayuti from al-ikhsan or Dollah from Real One are also capable as well...

And as always, inspect them first before they finally apply them using the iron press machine.

And I won't recommend you guys to do the NNs printing at Singapore.

ckimy, your EVRA 3 costs RM109.80

If done in Malaysia, it would be only (RM6 x 4) + RM35 = RM59. Would be free of charge if you bought the nameset from that shop.

You would have saved almost half the price and the hassle as well....

Ah I forgot.. then there's not much difference then...

Last I heard was around RM7k

PU is difficult. You can easily screw up using PU.

For PU namesets, I would advice to use the big bulky printing machine because the heat distribution must be equal and correct...

OK as promised, I would share again my guide on how I DIY apply my EPL namesets on to my jersey.

There is no magic secret on how to do it.. just that I use odd materials such as masking tape and I lay the jersey flat on the floor... So that my eyes can see from far.. how the alignment looks like...

This guide was posted in the my-fjc forum... so I hope it is useful for newbies around in this forum.. cheerio!
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This is an updated guide on how to apply the EPL Name and Numbers (NNs) & Patches on to your jersey.

When you have some nice EPL NNs and patches as shown below.. it's always more satisfying when you apply them yourself. Unlike the PU type NNs that are a bit risky to apply, lextra type namesets are safer and easier to apply.



The challenge here is to ensure that you apply the letters correctly using the proper template. If you don't have the official sporting ID template, you can DIY yourself the template like I did here:



Another thing to consider when applying the namesets, is to ensure that the position of certain letters like S and I are correct. You can accidentally place the letters I and S upside down:


If you are not sure, you can always check in the internet first (browse to photos shown in this forum or other sites)

Finally remember to set your iron to medium heat (2 dots) and use cloth when you want to press iron the numbers patches.

Here we go:

1. Lay your jersey flat on the ground:

2. This is not a recommended step (it is more optional), but if you want to arrange the letters nicely and closely, you can peel off the plastic film from the letters:



DO THIS CAREFULLY, don't over stretch them.. Sometimes you have to peel them off so it is more easier to arrange them (this is jerseyman's opinion.. if you don't agree then don't follow this step). Especially when you find certain letters and even the dot to apply and arrange later a bit tricky:



See for yourself.. how the dot and the plastic film is not centered.. so a bit hard to align later.. but it's up to you. So you can either skip this step or follow it..

3. So then later.. arrange the letters accordingly on to the jersey.. position it as wisely as you think.. There is no definite measurement on where to place them... it is up to your creativity.. use the template as a guide:



4. Once the letters are aligned nicely, use a masking tape to make sure they stick and are in order after you move your jersey to your ironing board:



Sometimes one long tape is enough... Or you can peel of small pieces of tapes and place them on top of the corner of all letters.

Then, only then you can remove the template:


To be continued..

This post has been edited by schmeichel7: Jul 28 2009, 06:02 PM