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Esky
post Jun 22 2009, 08:30 AM

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I'm thinking that if u wanna try palm oil, use it as a mixture with engine oil and not pure palm oil, as palm oil doesnt have any additives for anti-oxidation, acid-neutrlisation, sludge-removal & suspension. It does beat fully-syn oil in having a higher flash point though, from my brief googling, probably the reason it can withstand evaporation better.

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post Jun 22 2009, 10:48 AM

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it doesn't vapourised on high temp. i have confirmed this by my way of driving. hi revving mostly. the amount of oil remains the same.
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(fatani @ Jun 22 2009, 10:48 AM)
it doesn't vapourised on high temp. i have confirmed this by my way of driving. hi revving mostly. the amount of oil remains the same.
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what i'm afraid is the oil molecul will breakdown at high temp during high revs
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:49 AM

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If it does break down, it probably becomes sludge, the oil level drops and the oil/engine internal darkens.

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post Jun 22 2009, 12:29 PM

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oil level remains the same..

engine internal didn't go to the 'dark' side - until today, with pictorial proof.

been hi revving and top speeding at long distance, still, the oil level remains the same. normal drive, also the same.
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post Jun 23 2009, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(fatani @ Jun 22 2009, 12:29 PM)
oil level remains the same..

engine internal didn't go to the 'dark' side - until today, with pictorial proof.

been hi revving and top speeding at long distance, still, the oil level remains the same. normal drive, also the same.
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did u put any additives? or did u use pure palm oil? or half-half with engine oil?

need advice..my car is wira 1.3 manual injection, almost 10 years already...before change to it..do i need check inside engine first (piston, valve..bla bla bla)? or anything i need to do in specific before going for palm oil?
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post Jun 23 2009, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(arcilist @ Jun 22 2009, 11:01 PM)
did u put any additives? or did u use pure palm oil? or half-half with engine oil?

need advice..my car is wira 1.3 manual injection, almost 10 years already...before change to it..do i need check inside engine first (piston, valve..bla bla bla)? or anything i need to do in specific before going for palm oil?
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yes i did. palm oil all the way. no half2. for more info and reviews, just clicks on my blog below.

most would've recommend to check the oil sum gasket first. wink.gif
Esky
post Jun 24 2009, 09:47 AM

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bro fatani,

What brand of oil & viscosity were u using before using palm oil? Any oil consumption when using normal engine oil?
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post Jun 24 2009, 02:52 PM

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i've always treated my engine with semi-synthetic oil before. petronas, mobil, etc, as long as it's a semi. mostly petronas. viscosity? not sure. never took it serious anyway. as long as the engine runs smooth, light, and reliable, then it's fair enough for me. no need to go too technical. it'll mess your head. change every 5000 kms.

i've also use a fully synthetic. my personal opinions, better change it every 5000kms also. dont wait until 10k(actually, even at 8k), coz by then the engine feels heavy already(even if you changed the oil filter at 5k). dont know where the myth fully syn = 10k came from.

minerals, use only twice, dont like it. what's the point if your engine feels heavy and growling. sweat.gif

FC, didn't really took it serious..hehe.by the way that i drive, FC has to be put aside. of coz, lighter engine revs should save your FC a lil bit.

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post Jun 26 2009, 08:08 AM

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But sometimes lighter engine revs will encourage u to rev higher and stay there longer, resulting in higher FC! happy.gif
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post Jun 27 2009, 09:06 AM

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my gasket bocor a bit, but mech said it's not severe, coz never found dripping on the floor yet, it just bring up dirt at the bottom of engine

do i need to fix that first before going for this oil? can anybody explain what will they do changing gasket and how much usually the rough cost?
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post Jun 30 2009, 07:13 PM

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better change first, since it's not in the best shape. but if wanna try the current gasket, also can. but do monitor always. if it's leaking by then, well it's about time to change anyway. if it's not, save money lor..
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post Jul 1 2009, 05:48 PM

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Hehehe, what engine oil alternative I am using now?

Shell Rimula R1 SE/CD grade,Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Oil, monograde SAE 40

for my Nissan Sunny.Recommended for carbie cars without cats onboard.

Price: RM 11.90/Litre at your favourite Shell petrol station.

I bought 3 bottles of 1 L, thats Rm 35.70 plus top of some "left over oil" to make up to F mark.

Results? Last time I tried Petronas Motolub Monograde, this one felt much lighter than Petronas.

Furthermore my FC has been good, doing an average of 12-13Km/L.

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perwajasteel
post Jul 2 2009, 08:48 AM

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my advice.change gasket to better one b4 start using palm cooking oil as replacement engine oil.i using the palm oil 3yrs already.change every 5k mileage.so far ok ajerk.
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post Jul 20 2009, 08:05 AM

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Any updates on the palm motor oil from TS & others?

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post Aug 7 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Esky @ Jul 20 2009, 08:05 AM)
Any updates on the palm motor oil from TS & others?
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Hello. I've been using palm oil based lube in my new proton persona and old kancil for 7 months already without any problem. Just chance the oil regularly at 5000km intervals and you'll be okay.
I would say the performance is better than Petronas semi-synths that i used previously.
Thumbs up for palm oil thumbup.gif

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post Aug 7 2009, 02:40 PM

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well, your main bearings will gone fast so does your rod's smile.gif and your engine doesn't last long.

so you save the few bucks for minyak sawit and end up spending thousands for fixing up your engine

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fatani
post Aug 9 2009, 03:37 AM

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akihito,

your claims is based on...?

pls, enlighten us.
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post Aug 11 2009, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(akihito @ Aug 7 2009, 02:40 PM)
well, your main bearings will gone fast so does your rod's smile.gif and your engine doesn't last long.

so you save the few bucks for minyak sawit and end up spending thousands for fixing up your engine
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yeah,based on what?

fatani
post Aug 17 2009, 12:53 PM

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after exactly 9000 kms,
my engine jam!

later found out that the sawit oil is sticking like glue. most probable solution, overhaul!

no more sawit for me. RnD done! sawit=no good.

now burn money overhauling, again

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