WARNING TO ALL KIARA RIDERS: DON'T GO TO 4K LOOP.

Today a friend of mine and me hit the 4k loop after cruising though 2k and Snakes and Ladders. It used to be that 4k was the 'most recommended' trail. It is now in a state of shame. The trails are extremely narrow (they were narrow in the first place, now the shrubs are creeping in from all sides!) that we feel like we are riding inside bushes.

Once you pass the bridge beside the lake the overgrowth starts to engulf you. Many times I had to let down my feet to push through the leaves. There is a fork after a slope here. To the right, it takes you to the tarmac that adjoins 2k, which is preceded by a slope+switchback that is uber-slippery. To the left, is the real 4k.

We knew it was 4k because we can see those tiny little white papers that are littered around to mark that "you are on the right trail". And because the map says so. There are also many papers saying ON-ON. WTF does this mean?

We went further. The trail was arduous, but we went on, hoping to eventually reach the ramp that is placed near the 4k entrance in a proper manner of completing the rest of the loop first. After some time (trail felt long because we cycled slowly, dangerous) we faced a dead end. Not really a dead end, but a tree had fallen across the trail! Now Kiara trails are mostly built ON a slope, levelled well and widened a bit for cyclists and hikers alike.

We cannot pass further. We were both dissapointed like a pair of participants in the Amazing Race that got stuck! I tried to see if I could go pass the deadfall, but it was the main leafy/branchy part that is covering the trail, and we'd have to be able to fly at least 3 metres to get past it! After getting bitten by at least 20 mozzies due to the slow ritual of turning your bike to the opposite direction in a 50cm wide trail, we trudged onwards back to the tarmac. Halfway back, my friend suddenly plunged for about 5 feet down the hill that lines up beside the trail after his back tyre slipped on a root. A clump of bushes stopped his fall (good use of bushes, finally). We moved on back and finally reached the pump house where 4k starts.

Went to the bike washing area and the water trickles like piss. Managed to clean off the bike and see an elderly Korean couple chucking watermelon cubes to the monkeys.

Went to Devi's Corner to drink, and luckily got some decent amoi and minah eating there. Good way to vent off all the unhappyness from 4k.

I thought got a bunch of white people and some riders to some trail maintenance? Or do they only maintain the trails more often used like for KDD?

Kiara.. if you are really a newcomer then I suggest you go find some other singletracks (any dirt path will do) or unless you got a someone/group to guide you to Kiara, then can go. I'd say that the 2k trail is very smooth flowed except for some parts which I think most of us push our bikes up. It's technical in certain areas..

Yup! But in KL also can find lah. The average price of a T-Bolt now should be RM900 +/-

Hey guys, my dad gonna buy me and him a new full-sus bike (shared), which one do you guys think is better? Trek Fuel 6.5 or Gary Fisher Hi-Fi? They cost RM7.5k and RM6.5k respectively. Come see it in Joo Ngan at Uptown Damansara Utama


Not a few.. a whole club of them! But I said AVERAGE price in the market lah. RM700 would be offbalancing the market price as it is too low

That looks like a RockShox Dart 3. Costs about RM450.

Do you have a hardcoc* bike?

The Trek Fuel Ex 6.5 displayed has XT parts and one of the two bikes has a SLX RD, or was it crankset? Can't remember xD


FRIM? Manyak nyamuk la..



I saw this Powerball record champ on YouTube.. look like he is furiously fapping off.. hahaha..

This post has been edited by latias93: Mar 21 2009, 02:53 PM

You got try? Will it help with my fapping efficiency? Gawd, if anyone continues my fap questions this thread will be pulled to Kopitiam xD

I went to kee yaa raa last week but 4k is in state of desrepair. Go 2k arh.. you go to FRIM with TechnoDude94 lah.. he oso using Bolty. Peloton Tee-Bolt oso can go what. Dual-sus mah, what to be scared of?

Yes, use insect repellent especially in FRIM and Kiara. In Kiara, if you stop for just 2 seconds, at least 10 mozzies will come and fly around you and 4/10 will have found a sweet spot on your legs and arms

Powerball? This is the Powerball champ 'The Fapper' (dubbed him myself)



Hoho, saw Scotty's hardcoc* bike, as he put it, when he posted his 'Kee Yaa Raa' session that day xD


Can you post video of yourself demo-ing the 'powers' of PowerBall?

Hey guys.. I JUST BOUGHT A NEW BIKE TODAY! At first my family go to the cake shop beside KSH Taman Tun, ended up buying me a bike xD



It's a red colour Commencal Normal Disc


I had earlier pestered my parents about getting me a DJ/XC bike/frame. Went there and got the Commencal for only RM2690 (not sticker price). NS, would you be so kind to update my bike specs at 1st page.. remove my old pic.. new pic will upload next time.

Frame: Commencal Normal Disc
Fork: SR Suntour XCR Disc Commencal
Shifter: SRAM Trigger X5
Brakes: Avid Juicy 3 Hydraulic Disc
Rims: Weinmann Taurus 26" Double Wall Disc White
Tyres: Geax Saguaro 26 x 2.00
Saddle: SDG Bel-Air
Handlebar: Commencal Deluxe 1" OEM
Stem: Commencal
Headset: Neco 1" 1/8
FD: Shimano Deore
RD: SRAM X5
Hubs: Shimano-Commencal X475 Disc
Pedals: Wellgo LU-905
Crankset: FSA
Grips: Commencal Kraton


Join lah.. kan best kalau ada lagi banyak orang join. Don't worry if 1 month riding experience..


I love 2k.. Apollo never been inside before, Carnival as in the rock garden area ?

This post has been edited by latias93: Mar 21 2009, 11:55 PM

The 2k trail is really smooth and flowy, don't matter. The only hard parts are some slope switchbacks, even the pros push their bikes up there xD.

I dunno can wake up so early or not.. memanglah wanna test out the bike but feel lazy to wake up so early. Can just tell me where do you guys meet up? Just see wether I come or not

Alamak.. school is forced to go mah.. but on holidays I like to sleep late, wake up early. I will try my best to be there!

Memang ah.. pening sikit.. don't worry about newbie thing lah. I feel newbie too when compared to the guys like NS and those other downhill rider yang pro semacam


This post has been edited by latias93: Mar 22 2009, 12:19 AM

Alamak Scotty nak morning call me tomorrow! Can I bring a friend along? (if he can come).

I need a good sleep for energy because I lack stamina xD

The tarmac uphill at Kiara to the crossroad up there, I cannot tahan weh. Always take shortcut from the park through Carnival.


Trails = riding.

We make trail but dont ride it because riding sucks? xD

Yeah, it was great! Thanks guys, it was my best ride because finally I had a group to lead me though Kiara. Before this all I did was hang out on the tarmac xD and an unsuccessful attempt to traverse 4k.

Rider list & What They Do:

1) NightStalker1993 - ride so damn fast, pro at the downhill trail!
2) latias93 - came along to test out his new bike and explore more of Kiara (bike did GREAT, BTW!)
3) Maxguy - pro climber, most of the uphill parts can climb steadily like a goat.
4) Scotty - 'newbie' riding Jamis Dakar full-sus bike (as opposed to the T-Bolty he claims)
5) Snapshots - this guy got lots of stamina! Can tahan better than me on uphills.

The reverse 2k loop and the Carnival DH trail was sweet!

Scotty - you got take pic with your iFon 3G right? Upload lah

I think that everyone in this thread should join the ride! I will definitely go again if it's held at Kiara.

This post has been edited by latias93: Mar 22 2009, 08:25 PM

To you maybe slow ler, but to us who still takut-takut abit we look at you just go down fast 'n easy!

Mana ada pro.. join aje la.. kalau boleh panjat Steroid, Kiara takde benda langsung. Steroid pun all the pros sure will push up at some point


Now you know.. use Steroids to get up

Walao scotty why censor face? Scared people steal pic, photoshop and put in Kopitiam ah? xD


Kita mana ada guna downhill bike.. semua XC bike except NS and me (?) guna dirtjump bike. Jamis Xtrail is good what.. ala downhill as in turun bukit slope bukannya yang extreme pun

I love the beach cafe pics

Sounds fun.. but aiya at that time I will be in Penang for a large family holiday with uncles and aunts and cousins.. will bring bikes there too

This post has been edited by latias93: Mar 24 2009, 02:46 PM

Wow.. again?! I feel like going there with you guys.. very nice if go group rides

Come everyone who is going FRIM screw it, come Kiara!

Go ajak NS ar.. the rest of us are more towards XC haha.. although trying my hand at DJ-ing.. maybe will stem out to downhilling.. haha..


Don't worry lah, everyone will set their pace to match yours.. takkan wanna leave people behind haha..

Anyone going for Selangor MTB race?


Hoho.. same goes to me. Can't foresee the future yet >.<

You most probably are haha

Thanks dude! Don't worry lah we will wait for you.. yes I like the Beach Cafe picture too

Pushing trains both your arms and legs, as opposed to cycling UP which is mostly focused on the legs area only.. combo!



This post has been edited by latias93: Mar 25 2009, 02:45 PM

Dude, the gamen can refuse to air Power Rangers Mighty Morphine last time just because of the name, they can also refuse your bike to be used because your bike will be travelling around, hence brainwashing the whole public with morphine-ness

Hm, the frame looks like your Giant Glory

but yours don't have a dual-crown fork. Have one and it might affect your uphill climbing power.

Dual-crown forks NEVER improve uphill cycling performance. They need dual-crown forks for downhill to absorb maximum impact on front landing.. this is a luxury to own