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Engineering Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (LAME), Guide & everything about this career!

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post Apr 13 2012, 05:07 AM

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QUOTE(hazwan_aviator @ Apr 12 2012, 08:54 PM)
not sure bout the interest but few of my friend here(airasia) went t bank rakyat or agro bank for loan. they already finished their B1.1 license but dunno how the payment goes....

fyi, in airasia we got some sort like a TAME course,then upon finished the TAME course you will be going for crash-course (EASA B1.1)...this is the time where they all make a loan for.... sweat.gif


Added on April 12, 2012, 9:06 pm

hi there,
im an ex-miat....avionics...im the last batch that miat is called miat...after that miat already become a university kuala lumpur....as u may see now,most of the uniform no longer using miat flag,its already unikl...

i heard miat will be conducting exam for part.66...ask your brother bout this... notworthy.gif
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the crash course conducted in air asia provide by aviation australia..do u know alexender cleopatra ? hmm.gif
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post Apr 15 2012, 01:09 PM

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post Apr 15 2012, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Apr 15 2012, 02:23 PM)
what u mean?  blush.gif  tame intake?  flex.gif  flex.gif  drool.gif


Added on April 15, 2012, 2:27 pm
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cool....needs to upgrade certain part of the engine?  hmm.gif coz cooking oil is harder to burn
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idk..why dont u do some research and share with us here ? would love to know about it as well..

anyway,next week is my last week ojt..and its the longest week coz we need to do 7.30am-6.00pm till friday..ahhhh!
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post Apr 16 2012, 05:17 AM

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im from aviation australia..need to finish my ojt then only get the 147 recognition..some of my classmates who didnt do ojt,got a job with hawker pacific singapore..another one line maintenance in cathay penang..
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post Apr 16 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Apr 16 2012, 10:29 AM)
wa...study in AUS...u get loan or fund privately?
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FAMA..i didnt know i could apply for mara loan..some of my junior funded by mara..have u enquire a new 147 school in china ? much cheaper than aviation australia and the facility is much better i think..plus,u can stay at their hostel.
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post Apr 16 2012, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Apr 16 2012, 05:36 PM)
china.... whole thing sure in chinese....lang and i nt veri good in it  doh.gif  FAMA who can applY?
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"The one verbal protocol that has been established in all of aviation, including maintenance, is the use of English as the standard language.

This was done when the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) was established in 1944."

FAMA stand for father and mother.. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Apr 18 2012, 05:28 PM)
brows.gif  brows.gif  ea one can increase 1 k... imagine u have 6~8 type rating ....LAME (basic around 4k+ 7k)
before lae ady 11k drool.gif
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even u have 20 type rating,the company will only pay on type rating they use,so it depends on their range of fleet as well.

LAME = LAE
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post Apr 20 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(qiffahsnissuh @ Apr 20 2012, 11:19 AM)
so,wont need to register with BEM lah?
1more question,my father said he worry if i wont get job,i wont be able to work with government bcoz i dont have any dgree whatsoever...
can you all suggest me what to say to my father?
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is your dad working with the government ?
is a degree can guarantee u a job ? i just finish my training today,and im not sure where im goin in future too..but u need to start somewhere..this thing struck my head few years back when im deciding to go on this path.Just keep trying and dont give up i would say..some 147 ATO give diploma upon graduation..i dont really care about the diploma tho,it just an 'extra' paper to make my cv or resume thicker..2 of my mate already got into 145 MRO in sg.. smile.gif
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post Apr 20 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Apr 20 2012, 12:41 PM)
Tell your dad that the license issued by DCA Malaysia is recognized same level as DEGREE WITH HONOURS in the Government.
You will start from A41 grade.. depending on years of experience and the number of type ratings you hold. You do not want to work anywhere else in the government except DCA lah of course! laugh.gif
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yes even the DCA KP used to be LAME biggrin.gif ..but im not sure what his other qualifications tho..
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post Apr 20 2012, 05:54 PM

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U mean we can do MBA without a degree? My mom told me the same thing,coz this line of career consider as professional career,so we eligible to enrol in MBA course.pls enlighten me more on this Jazzy.Thanks
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post Apr 20 2012, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Apr 20 2012, 07:43 PM)
Yes we can! We are in a 'supervisory' position, with 2 years experience in type(professional experience).. you can take MBA or CIT (Chartered Institute of Transport)for that matter. If you want to take a degree, no one is stopping you but I don't see the reason why.. laugh.gif
When I was with MAS, they(MAS) sponsored those who want to take MBA, CIT.. the MBA was from Cranfield University,UK. Cost RM30K. Good eh? wink.gif
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ha..thanks for the clarification Jazzy.Ive been trying to research and ask around about this matter,but seem not everyone know about it.. sweat.gif this is great news for us! So did u take the opportunity ? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2012, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(qiffahsnissuh @ Apr 22 2012, 02:18 AM)
yes, of course...thats y he always prefer government...
i guess it is a habit for our parent's generations to always sees government servants is the best job...
but now,our generation is different right...all place can go to work...
i must admit, some typical malay is always like this...no open minded...
im a malay btw, but this is fact...it is my responsibility to change it...
ok jazzy, thank you for the encouragement...
i will explain nicely to my father that ive done research, and this career is best for me...
to hear from the real deal is how we can get the real picture of the career...
pls correct me if im wrong jazzy,my steps to become LAME is:
register on LWTR course under airlines or private company -> spend 5 years studying and do practical -> gain LWTR certificate -> work under a LAME, gain experience -> get Type Rating certificate -> then, im officially a LAME?
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haha..its normal for civil servant people to think like that..even my mom told me the same thing,if the parents work with the goverment,they will hoping that their children will join the government as well..It TAME program under DTC,but your parents need to be one of MAS employees..Or,i think they open for public last year.u need to check out the intake date..or u can go APR..or overseas,Aviation Aaustralia,Xiamen China,or theres one in bristol that provide u the course+OJT+320 type rating..but u need to check the aproval they have tho.


Added on April 23, 2012, 4:38 pmmaryjane9996 wrote:
i received a call yesterday morning sayin got an offer in this one local company 2 hours drive from sydney..just want to make sure,even tho i already ask someone else on this issue..this local company is not part 145,but it CASA approved..so can i use this coming 2 years exp and lodge my application to caa.uk ? if yes,do u have any document supporting your answer ? i did some research but couldnt find any..hmm

Hi..Ammar - I guess you have not many options left - just accept the offer - get a CASA licence first then convert it into EASA later..then to DCAM Part 66 later....

My 2 cents lah bro.....DO NOT come back to Malaysia without a licence...

Adios amigo...9M


QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 20 2012, 11:41 PM)
maryjane,
For Q3. No, it need not be EASA's Part 145. Local Regulatory Body's Part 145 is sufficient.
But from my point of view here is the catch.
That country should be a member of JAA, recognized, subscribed and implement the JAR as part of their Aviation Regulation biggrin.gif
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Hi Jazzy..i really2 need your help on this..Do u know any documents that can support this ? thanks.

Ok dont answer anything yet,let me try to bring something to the table.

couldnt find information on it..if u want to know the company name,pls let me know..ill PM u.. thanks again.


Added on April 25, 2012, 9:31 pmD3.1 General
An applicant for a category B1 licence must have
completed a prescribed period of aircraft maintenance
experience. This experience is to be relevant to the
licence category required and to the maintenance
experience of operating aircraft. This experience
should include maintenance on aircraft structure,
powerplant, mechanical and electrical systems and
replacement of avionic LRU’s requiring simple tests to
prove their serviceability.

This was taken from ELGD on caa.uk webbie..it doesnt said anything about 145..i dont want to assume,coz theres no assumption should be made when u working in this industry.

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post Apr 25 2012, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Apr 25 2012, 11:23 PM)
maryjane,
Like all laws, this is again subjected to interpretation. biggrin.gif

You are right, there were never an emphasized that it HAS TO BE an EASA Part 145!
Go back to basics.
Any maintenance activities either done by an AOC Holder or a part 145 MRO obviously has to be APPROVED by the local Regulatory Body first, right?
Now, does the country of the Regulatory Body a member of the ICAO? This would be the MINIMUM in order for CAA UK or infact any Aviation Authority (DCA included) to recognize the practice, skills and experience and the so called recorded experience (and endorsed appropriately) to be accepted either for the grant, extension or conversion approval.

Is this simple and clear to understand?
Having said that, the JAR implementations(among others) are still valid and further support the recognition for the acceptance of applications.
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Again Jazzy,thanks a bunch.This is what i believed in,but my understanding a lil bit diff from yours.As long as the MRO is approved by local authority,which in my case CASA,and that local authority is ICAO member,the exp that i gain can be use to lodge an application to caa.uk,because ICAO is the one who incharge to set a minimum standard for his member.Pls correct me if this is wrong. smile.gif

But the guy from my school(examiners) said otherwise.and when i ask at flylah,i got the same answer(like my examiners) and even he said that dont come back before i got my license and this is from someone i can consider as senior maybe experienced in this industry.I went to international forum to ask,and i got same answer like yours.And that guy even ask me to check it on ELGD,just to reconfirm..So yeah right now,im pretty much on your side on this.I even send email to caa.uk regarding this,and waiting for their reply.If the answer is yes,i would like to request a letter with caa.uk letter head..

Here is an example how the information can be misinterpret by other people even someone who experienced in this industry.Last resort to get confirmation is email them directly and get the black and white just to be on the safe side.

once again,thanks Jazzy. thumbup.gif
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post May 1 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ May 1 2012, 04:19 AM)
Hi guys! It's been awhile since I've popped in here. Currently doing my first OJT in SAE, just started last week in warehouse and today was the first day in the hangar. Managed to witness and assist in the installation(partial) of the main landing gears on a Boeing 737. So far had passed all basic subjects in APR including the latest Physics exam which only 2 passed. Looking forward to my 3 months stay here in Sepang laugh.gif

And btw, about that ATO in China, i think it's Taeco? My friends talked about it recently and the price is not bad around 70k RM if not mistaken plus you get an A320 type rating together. Not too sure about the details though as I didn't really research about it. Just sharing what I heard biggrin.gif
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Good to hear that bro..Pls say hi to Azrul..the fees is almost the same with the one in Bristol..I would go there instead of Aviation Australia if i know about it earlier..the fees it self+ojt for dual is about 180k..those who got mara sponsor are lucky,since they only need to pay maybe 10-20% from the total..since the passing mark is 75,it so easy for u to get 3.5 and above.. smile.gif

I heard SAE is hiring,maybe u can apply over there after u finish your OJT ?
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post May 3 2012, 02:16 PM

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i think i know him.but not very close..he havent finish his module yet,hes my junior at AA..his classmate told me hes a bit crack,and de-motivated just because he fail few mod..he seldom talk to any guy,just do his stuff..i feel worried about aviation safety if he manage to get his license unless he show significant change with his behaviour..
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ May 3 2012, 07:47 PM)
Over here he tries to talk to us but I don't really layan him much though. He said he got straight A's in SPM but I kinda doubt it. Either he's talking bull or stress had gotten into him. My friend talked to him btw he said he's currently under medication actually due to stress caused when he was in Australia. Another thing I heard is that your course is an intensive course? hmm.gif his original target was to become a pilot but then his parents disagree and keep pressuring him to take up engineering.

oh well. This week managed to assist and participate in full landing gear replacement of a 737. Yesterday stayed back all the way until 530am to watch the techs and engineers try to meet the deadline in fixing the aircraft but many problems came up last minute. rclxub.gif

good experience here in SAE thumbup.gif
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intensive ? what does he mean by intensive ? we used start at 8am and finish at 3.30pm,monday friday..now we start at 7.30-2.30 but with shorter morning and lunch break..during my ojt,i start at 7.30-6pm..when i think of it,like u said u stay back till 530am just to watch those eng,we need to make sacrifice at some point..i admit i dont have fun social life in here,but i got what want and this is something good for my future..

while u there,pls learn how to fill up the DR(discrepancy report),get used to the manual,understand the working procedure,understand the task card,basically,just learn what ever u can..my friend who working in sae was sent for the A320 typecourse even tho he havent obtain the basic license yet..
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QUOTE(SonicFlight @ May 3 2012, 10:25 PM)
I’ve been following this discussion with much interest. I found it “amusingly funny” when you claimed the above statement unless you could come out with the said name and I will accordingly consider myself justified  rclxms.gif
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why do u need name to justify something ? if i dont truly believe what my friend said,i wouldnt share it here..hes my senior at aviation australia,plus we have few mutual friends.
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post May 4 2012, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(SonicFlight @ May 4 2012, 08:06 AM)
Do you always believe what your seniors say? What you say is hard to understand: "You sound like a shit salesman with a mouthful of samples." Get your basic license first then only you talk about type training courses  rclxms.gif
As for you merijane...justification is needed as what you said is too good to be true. All the best for you both, you and nightstalker.

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first of all,its your choice to believe me or not,i wont force u..im goin to get my license first,i just share the information with nighstalker and i wont bother about the rating at this stage..when your friend tell u something,i mean,the trust-able friend,did u ask black and white for everything they said ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(SonicFlight @ May 4 2012, 06:24 PM)
You must have failed the whole conversation. Please refer to my conversation with Merijane. Then only you may give your view  rclxms.gif
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bro..may i know where are u from ? a company name will be good.. biggrin.gif ..u got your license already ? mind sharing your story ? thanks.
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QUOTE(SonicFlight @ May 4 2012, 06:46 PM)
To answer you, I make it simple for you and others to understand. Whenever you are asked to carry out a duplicate inspection, you (Merijane) as a 2nd qualified engineer, do you just trust him/her?  brows.gif
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obviously no,unless i inspect it by my self or ive been doing direct supervision on his/her work from the beginning of a task. nod.gif

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