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post Jul 30 2012, 11:29 PM

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mbcx4jrh
post Aug 22 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Executioner @ Jul 30 2012, 11:29 PM)
not really. i heard from my friends there that its a great place and very very picky in choosing who to hire / onboard.
is there any intention to your question or you just trying to be pesky nuisance kiasu?
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This person is the HR Director.

Edit: Note he has now edited his post - you can see his original here.

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post Sep 7 2012, 07:37 PM

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Why, it is no surprise the the HR Director would stoop that low to insult either a potential candidate or an employee.

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Well, this thread is mainly dead now. For new potential candidates who're thinking of applying to Experian, you're probably better off elsewhere.

Hitwise is losing their QA like arteries lose blood. Apparently it's because of the relatively new lady manager.
If you're thinking about joining the QA team, you should heed the sign.

Cheetahmail's turnover rate? Well, it's been pretty bad last year. This year saw a few left.
There're dissent among employees. Griefs mostly caused by managers who don't know what they're doing.

Experian isn't as great as what it used to be (or what they claimed to be).

mbcx4jrh, why don't you tell us why you left?
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post Sep 7 2012, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Throw Away Account @ Sep 7 2012, 07:37 PM)
Why, it is no surprise the the HR Director would stoop that low to insult either a potential candidate or an employee.

rclxms.gif

Well, this thread is mainly dead now. For new potential candidates who're thinking of applying to Experian, you're probably better off elsewhere.

Hitwise is losing their QA like arteries lose blood. Apparently it's because of the relatively new lady manager.
If you're thinking about joining the QA team, you should heed the sign.

Cheetahmail's turnover rate? Well, it's been pretty bad last year. This year saw a few left.
There're dissent among employees. Griefs mostly caused by managers who don't know what they're doing.

Experian isn't as great as what it used to be (or what they claimed to be).

mbcx4jrh, why don't you tell us why you left?
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well no offence, a post like this from an account with the name 'Throw Away Account' and only 3 posts doesn't really scream credibility to me. Care to clarify some details other than guesses and hearsays?
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post Sep 8 2012, 04:51 AM

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post Sep 8 2012, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(mbcx4jrh @ Sep 8 2012, 04:51 AM)
And you are? Don't criticise others for hiding behind a disposable account if you aren't prepared to declare your own interests.

If I worked in such an environment, there is no way I'd been seen criticising the management any way they could trace back to me.
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let's be clear here, i am not the one making accusations. when you make accusations in the public and you hide under a disposable account, I pointed it out, I am at fault here? I don't understand your logic really.

all i can see is some disgruntled employee(s) creating multiple accounts possibly to disseminate biased information and we see that a lot here.

so don't throw your frustrations at me. grow some balls - you don't have to leave your name but come on a disposable account? just use a real account and tell us the actual situation minus the rumours or hearsay. then let the readers decide. it is better for everyone reading it. really

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post Sep 8 2012, 08:30 AM

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DarkAeon
post Sep 8 2012, 08:59 AM

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Joe, I think u mistake me as that HR Director using another account to counter you. You really got it wrong this time.

I am NOT accusing that 'throw away account' of making things up - this is what I said "well no offence, a post like this from an account with the name 'Throw Away Account' and only 3 posts doesn't really scream credibility to me. Care to clarify some details other than guesses and hearsays?"

Throw away account was clearly using the word apparently - that clearly showed me he/she did not get that info first hand. And it is true an account with that name and with only 3 posts can be created to deliberately attack anyone.

So be fair here and don't put words into my mouth. I am interested however of your personal views of the company. Care to share?
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post Sep 8 2012, 09:05 AM

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post Sep 8 2012, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 7 2012, 08:13 PM)
well no offence, a post like this from an account with the name 'Throw Away Account' and only 3 posts doesn't really scream credibility to me. Care to clarify some details other than guesses and hearsays?
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I don't have to back what I say here with credibility. It's a online forum. Anonymity is afforded as long as anyone wants it. Whether readers take what I say with a pinch of salt is up to them.


QUOTE(mbcx4jrh @ Sep 8 2012, 04:51 AM)
If I worked in such an environment, there is no way I'd been seen criticising the management any way they could trace back to me.
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Ditto. If I were to "clarify some details" with my usual account, you'd think the management won't figure out where I work and who I am? They'd sooner swoop down to me and haul me for some scolding or firing. I'm not careless enough to dig my own grave.

If this company is truly good, why isn't anyone else singing praises lately. Gone are the good old days?

[Edit: added longer replies instead of a single "Ditto"]

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post Sep 8 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(mbcx4jrh @ Sep 8 2012, 09:05 AM)
Nope. Wrong again I never thought you were that corrupt shitbag. SO WHO ARE YOU?

You are Experian. Your previous posts on lowyat suggest so. Why hide? Why attack others who give opinions?

Stop hiding.
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For the second time....i DID NOT attack anyone. I just pointed out the obvious and I wanted the hear the real actual confirmed stories about the company rather than rumours or "I hear it from joe that xxxxx". I don't have to tell u but I have decided to reveal my intentions due to your wild and unsubstantiated allegations.

I went as far as second interview for a Senior PHP Developer in hitwise long time ago, I got to talk to Daniel Walters the head of development and ask him lots of questions about the internal workings, culture, values of hitwise. Personally i think he is passionate about what is doing and he believed in what he is doing. hitwise scores high marks in my books. I don't really know what happens in cheeta or DA but I would love to try again to apply to hitwise if there is an opening. So yeah, I have an indirect link to Experian, hence, I modified my comments to reflect that. And yeah, I know the culture, how performance are measured etc because I asked and I got a tour and I have friends who is still working there.

So i am keen to hear some real stories from another angle so that i can make an informed decision in the future

Joe, just my honest 2 cents - i feel you are really angry with the company, i don't really know what happened but come on dude - we don't look back in anger.


Added on September 8, 2012, 9:53 am
QUOTE(Throw Away Account @ Sep 8 2012, 09:42 AM)
I don't have to back what I say here with credibility. It's a online forum. Anonymity is afforded as long as anyone wants it. Whether readers take what I say with a pinch of salt is up to them.
Ditto.

If this company is truly good, why isn't anyone else singing praises lately. Gone are the good old days?
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"I don't have to back what I said" - there you go, u just destroyed your credibility yourself. It is true that you can say anything you want without backing it up. It just makes your story unbelievable and very close to a troll.

No company is truly good or bad - even i know that. If you can find a company that is all good, let me know first thing

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 8 2012, 09:50 AM)
I went as far as second interview for a Senior PHP Developer in hitwise long time ago, I got to talk to Daniel Walters the head of development and ask him lots of questions about the internal workings, culture, values of hitwise. Personally i think he is passionate about what is doing and he believed in what he is doing. hitwise scores high marks in my books. I don't really know what happens in cheeta or DA but I would love to try again to apply to hitwise if there is an opening. So yeah, I have an indirect link to Experian, hence, I modified my comments to reflect that. And yeah, I know the culture, how performance are measured etc because I asked and I got a tour and I have friends who is still working there.

So i am keen to hear some real stories from another angle so that i can make an informed decision in the future

Joe, just my honest 2 cents - i feel you are really angry with the company, i don't really know what happened but come on dude - we don't look back in anger.


Added on September 8, 2012, 9:53 am
"I don't have to back what I said" - there you go, u just destroyed your credibility yourself. It is true that you can say anything you want without backing it up. It just makes your story unbelievable and very close to a troll.

No company is truly good or bad - even i know that. If you can find a company that is all good, let me know first thing
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See, DarkAeon, you said "I don't really know what happens in cheeta or DA". So who better to tell the situation in Experian? You, an outsider, or me, an insider?

Experian comprises of different business units/office and each has its own culture. Hitwise used to be really good, or is still good. They've never had anyone leave in the first 2 years of their establishment, until recently they see a throng of QAs leave, one after another. Their QA team shrunk almost by half in just half a year. The developers team seems to be doing good, thanks to good managers. If you have to join Experian, pick Hitwise Software Development. Can't say the same about other teams in there.

Cheetahmail is known to have a Chinaman head that leads a team of many managers who don't seem to know what they're doing.

QAS? They've had people leave after just a few months of joining.

DA? Who better to tell what happened apart from Joe?
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post Sep 8 2012, 10:09 AM

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well thanks for the info Throw Away Account!

that was what i am after....anymore thoughts?
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post Sep 8 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Sep 8 2012, 10:09 AM)
well thanks for the info Throw Away Account!

that was what i am after....anymore thoughts?
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I don't know why you want to thank me for you just said I don't have credibility and my claims are wild and unsubstantiated.

So I said something good about Hitwise Software Development and suddenly that's a lot more believable than the bad things?

I love the contradiction.

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BTW, I don't want to continue the argument about my claims being wild or that I lack credibility and shit.

I don't care about credibility. I never once asked that anyone believe my claims. Anyone here is free to take what I said with a pinch of salt. Or lots of salt.


Added on September 8, 2012, 10:21 amAlso, Hitwise yearly increment and bonus % is measly.

If you want fatter paycheck that grows exponentially faster, join Cheetahmail. If you don't mind the Chinaman head or the work environment. Hitwise people always get jealous at Cheetahmail's bonuses.

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post Sep 8 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Throw Away Account @ Sep 8 2012, 10:13 AM)
I don't know why you want to thank me for you just said I don't have credibility and my claims are wild and unsubstantiated.

So I said something good about Hitwise Software Development and suddenly that's a lot more believable than the bad things?

I love the contradiction.

Edit:
BTW, I don't want to continue the argument about my claims being wild or that I lack credibility and shit.

I don't care about credibility. I never once asked that anyone believe my claims. Anyone here is free to take what I said with a pinch of salt. Or lots of salt.


Added on September 8, 2012, 10:21 amAlso, Hitwise yearly increment and bonus % is measly.

If you want fatter paycheck that grows exponentially faster, join Cheetahmail. If you don't mind the Chinaman head or the work environment. Hitwise people always get jealous at Cheetahmail's bonuses.
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u see, only joe made wild claims againts me (about me being in Experian and shit) and not u Throw Away Account. The very fact that u think I was talking about u is very interesting and one can make the connection very easily.

i thank you because for once u r talking about your own experiences and not some shit u heard from pantry or coffee bean or toilet. u don't care about credibility but readers like me do, so thanks for thinking about us all this while.

again, i have no interest in arguing with anyone here - i am just after the facts and nothing else
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post Sep 8 2012, 03:55 PM

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post Sep 8 2012, 04:42 PM

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I have every right to point out the credibility of any posts while remaining anonymous myself - why is it wrong for me to question what someone has written here? This is a forum and it is meant to work this way from the planet I am from.

Just because u dare me to show myself doesn't mean I have to do it. I am using my one and only account which have hundreds of post indicating I am an actual forumer and not an account created to bash anyone specifically. That's all you need to know.

I am sorry to hear what Experian did to you and the circumstances surrounding your wife. I won't comment on this as I don't know the details

I have decided to move on from this thread as I have all the info I need about this company.

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Astagfirullahazeem. Ya Allah, tak habis habis dengan cerita bini special. Yang i tahu suaminya pemabuk.

i sekarang keje nightshif kat bank glocal dan baru terserempak dengan tered ini.

klu sebut nama bini guarantee kesemua 80 staf MS ludah

Exprian HR bodoh kenapa bagi kerje kat org mcm ni!

issh. ingat bini dia - naik bulu roma aku. kena mental torture hari hari. lain kali bawak bini pegi main jauh jauh, cari kerja kat chennai la biarkan kami 'dirty chinese' and 'stupid malays' terkeluar dari cerita hindustan mengarut.

ku ni dengan beberapa rakan seperjuangan saya khasnya melayu dan cina selalu diseksa dan 'terkena' dengan arus syaitan yang dipangil bini ini. We all happy is malaysia is free of this diseases. Walaupun i dah ninggal exprian tapi kawan kawan i masih kat sana. kesemuanya masih ada saki baki trauma bini ini.

sepeninggalan
tak ada tikam belakang,
tak ada ular lidah bercabang,
tak ada maki hamun kaum melayu dan cina,
tak ada maki hamun kesemua negara islam
tak ada maki hamun 'yellow dirty chinese'
tak ada 'without my husband you wouldnt have a job here!'

macam mana i boleh sesat kat tered ini. maklumla topic in tengah hangat sekarang dan i tengah cari kerja. kah kah kah

so kalau ada kosong kat sana tolong pm yea ok! seriously tak nak keje kat sana la. nyampah

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QUOTE(Throw Away Account @ Sep 7 2012, 07:37 PM)
Why, it is no surprise the the HR Director would stoop that low to insult either a potential candidate or an employee.

rclxms.gif

Well, this thread is mainly dead now. For new potential candidates who're thinking of applying to Experian, you're probably better off elsewhere.

Hitwise is losing their QA like arteries lose blood. Apparently it's because of the relatively new lady manager.
If you're thinking about joining the QA team, you should heed the sign.

Cheetahmail's turnover rate? Well, it's been pretty bad last year. This year saw a few left.
There're dissent among employees. Griefs mostly caused by managers who don't know what they're doing.

Experian isn't as great as what it used to be (or what they claimed to be).

mbcx4jrh, why don't you tell us why you left?
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It might be slightly exaggerated comparing to the actual situation.

Although there are couple of QA resignation in Hitwise happening at the same time, it was more due to the fact resignation happen immediately after the bonus was given (if letter was submitted before the bonus, you will not qualify for the bonus). No more after that.

Also to note, Hitwise in Cyberjaya is establish for slightly more than 2 years, hence it's common that people are looking for new job challenges after this period.

The average turn-over rate is lower in Hitwise than most companies out there. smile.gif

Overall, my experience in Experian has been a pleasant one! Definitely recommended if you're looking for a job which gives a lot of flexibility, support and freedom to implement improvement initiatives. thumbup.gif
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1. isn't it funny to listen to someone's comment about a company when u r looking to expand your career? you should understand what you are getting into and what knowledge you gain from it. The more exposure you have, the more experience you have in facing this again in future.

2. wats a good manager or a bad manager? why not ask how can u b d best employee? it is often communication breakdown between team members n managers. different expectations drives different results. Mismatched expectations is the major cause of d argument. U need to clearly understand wat u need to deliver as results, what enables u to deliver the results, how do u know when u hv delivered d results.

3. what went wrong with the management? pls ask urself y u r not d manager since u think u r better than d manager.

4. r u mature enough to handle difficult situations n accept criticism from others?

5. staff attrition is normal in IT industry. D industry does not pay additional for the same set of skill sets although one may have worked in the same role and company for the past few years. There r times when as an employee, u feel u need to be paid more. They should pay u more if u r doing beyond ur scope today, but if ur scope is d same for the past 5 years, should d company pay extra 20% for d same set of skills?
Therefore, if there is nothing else for an employee to grow, they leave. Then again, did both manager n team member go through a career path planning?

6. bonuses are subjective and depends on alot of factors. P&L are subject to scrutiny and esp new units have more challenges which may be caused by cost accrual, initial investment recovery, HR capital building for skills n etc.

pls note....i'm neither an Experian staff/ex-staff nor do I know anyone there....

if any employee has got issues with their current company or managers, seek higher level management advise and escalate if necessary. Complaining on forum and b****ing won't change anything. D company wont change its ways and its governed by corporate managers who will act/execute for d company's best interest.

I never believed in managers are always right, but they are managers because the management sees them deemed fit for the role.

So to all jobseekers, it is ur own career path.
U need to understand what u want to build for ur career apart from all those pay package n benefits.

I've worked for multiple companies over d span of 15 years working to date in d IT industry focusing on IT Service Management & Managed Services....watever u wanna call it

Chinaman comp, MNCs and OGCs.........i hv met many type of bosses....some r really good...not just managers...but great leaders
some r just average managers

again......it also depend how u manage ur own boss

long winded enough.....d point is.....dont let anyone dictate ur career n growth....perform ur own due diligence of a company by finding d facts
example: comp financial statements, review d direct line managers profiles on linkedin.....many more

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