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Nokia ♪♥ Nokia XpressMusic 5800 "TUBE" V6 ♪, V6 already?!?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

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post Jan 23 2009, 05:36 PM, updated 17y ago

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Introduction

Announced at Nokia's Remix event in London, at the beginning of

October 2008, the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is a mid-range, music focused

phone, running S60 5th Edition on Symbian OS 9.4, with a 3.2 megapixel

camera, integrated GPS, WiFi and HSDPA connectivity, and a 3.2 inch

touch screen. It's the last item on this feature list which draws

attention to what would otherwise be a fairly standard mid range phone.

For the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic is one of Nokia's most widely talked

about (and leaked) phones of recent memory. There's no doubt that it is

going to garner attention, coming in the wake of the recent spate of

touch phones, including, of course, the Apple iPhone. While it's not

Nokia's first touch phone (Nokia 7700/7110) or its first recent touch

device (Nokia N810), it is the first S60 touch enabled phone and is a

significant landmark in Nokia's mobile device story. However, it is

worth noting from the start that it is not "Nokia's touch phone",

instead it is the first in a portfolio of touch enabled phones from

Nokia. This is an important distinction because, while the 5800 can

tell us much about Nokia's touch platform generally, it can only be

fairly assessed in the context of its own market positioning (music

focused, cost of 279 Euro before taxes and subsidies).


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General Design and Hardware

The 5800, at 111 x 51.7 x 15.5 mm, is a reasonably small

package. It is similar in size to the N78 (113 x 49 x 15.1 mm), but

slightly heavier at 109g versus 102g. Volume wise, the 5800 is bigger

at 83 cc compared to the N78 at 76.5 cc; it does feel bigger in the

hand, mainly due to the greater taper on its edges. While the 5800 is

significantly bigger than the typical mid-range phone and would do well

to be thinner, it compares favourably to other smartphones and does not

feel over sized.

Thanks to its relatively narrow width it is, proportionally, closer to

the traditional candy bar shape (long rectangle) than most touch screen

based phones (short rectangle). If you think of your typical candybar

smartphone, remove the keypad and lengthen the screen and you'll get

pretty close to the feel of the 5800. The key advantage of this shape

is that, for most people, it will be possible to use the device with

just one hand; even those with smaller fingers should be able to reach

all points on the screen.


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The 3.2 megapixel camera focuses well and takes great pictures

in daylight -- indoors is likely a different story, as with most

cameraphones, but there's a rather powerful dual LED flash to help out

with that.


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All of this -- in addition to things like GPS, WiFi and a side

-loading microSD slot (there's a free 8GB card included) -- are wrapped

up into an elongated, chubby package, hence the Tube moniker. We'd hate

to have something of its shape and thickness in a tight jeans front

pocket on a regular basis, but we must admit that it's very comfortable

to hold and use with a single hand, something that can't be said for

all touchscreen phones.


Software

It's S60, so if you were hoping for something else you'll be

sorely disappointed. Nokia's done "just enough" to turn the traditional

interface into a touchable one with version 5.0, sizing up icons,

adding finger-friendly buttons in lieu of traditional menu items and so

forth. What Nokia hasn't quite figured out is consistency, requiring

double taps in some places, single taps in others. Scrolling through

most lists requires dragging a scroll bar, pulling down as the list

flies up, but the browser has touch and drag scrolling. Nothing's too

frustrating or unreasonable, but this is no seamless experience.


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What's new is a touch-sensitive button above the screen that

drops down the Media Bar for access to music, movies, photos, the

browser and sharing. Not life changing, but quite convenient. There's

also a new home screen with a "Fav Four" of sorts across the top and

little else. Tap that friend, and you can get a quick look at recent

calls, messages and even related RSS feeds. Pretty neat if you're a

loner, but there's no way to add more than four friends, or view

similar info for your regular contacts that don't make the cut.

Luckily, the traditional S60 home screen is also available.


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For text input you have four options: handwriting, mini QWERTY

keyboard, full screen QWERTY and alphanumeric keypad. The first two are

stylus-based (that mini QWERTY is truly mini), while the other two are

only available in landscape and portrait modes, respectively. Like we

said in the hardware end of things, the resistive touch means using the

tips of your fingers instead of the pads, which we find a tad

frustrating, but the keyboard in landscape mode is truly gargantuan,

and after an hour or two of learning we're guessing you could rattle

off some pretty lengthly emails or Great American Novels. Luckily, if

you're a T9 fan there's nothing stopping you from keeping the phone in

portrait mode and rattling off text messages with the touchable

alphanumeric keypad, and the phone is frankly too narrow to work well

with QWERTY in portrait. The handwriting recognition looks good enough,

but we revert to a 2nd grade writing level whenever we pick up a pen,

so that stylus is staying firmly in its holster.

We're not convinced the touchable browser is a step up over existing

WebKit implementations on Nokia's other handsets, since the tap to zoom

function is slow and unreliable -- and no, you can't select text from

web pages to copy and paste. Panning around the page is also jittery,

perhaps a tad worse than the G1 -- nobody has managed to pull off

iPhone smooth yet in this department. We were using a slightly early

software build, so some of these problems might be fixed in the final

version, but it wasn't encouraging. Still, there's no denying the

advantages of viewing the web on a 640 x 360 LCD.


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We tested out an accelerometer-based driving game, but it was

overly sensitive and no-fun-at-all -- though we're guessing that

wouldn't be a hard fix. The graphics looked pretty good, though. Movies

are potentially this phone's killer app, but you'll have to do the

conversion just right to get smooth playback at full resolution. We did

see some video shot with the phone (that Sea World shot in the gallery)

and it looked pretty good.


Conclusion

If you haven't picked it up by now, Nokia isn't going after the

power users here. The phone will be marketed under Nokia's "Live"

banner, and really concentrates on the most basic communications --

calling and texting -- with a whole bunch of multimedia piled on top.

Nokia's Comes With Music helps on that end of things, and the screen

certainly helps with video, but this is no iPhone when it comes to to

solid media integration or full-featured media player apps. On the

communication side, we're sad to see Nokia almost burying some of its

S60 advantages. Everything's still there, but Nokia didn't put the

gruntwork in necessary to really take advantage a next-gen interface as

it relates to keeping track of emails, social networking, IM and the

correspondences of more than four people. All that said, Nokia isn't

claiming that the 5800 is the be all end all, is releasing it with a

very aggressive price point (€279 unlocked), and promises more where

this came from.


Info quoted from www.Engadget.com while photos are courtesy of www.Sogi.com.tw
Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Spec:

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What's in the box

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Official Retail Price: RM1499
(Original Distributor: Zitron, Avaxx, Sapura, i-Mobile)
Bargain and sourcing around, you might get a better price, approx RM13XX.

For screen protector:
"Got it for RM18 and its the "Skool" brand. The SP got pre-cut lubangs for the earpiece, light and proximity sensors and the 3 keys at the bottom front of the phone. Glossy type. So far so good."

Alternatively, you may want to take a look at Martin Fields Overlay Plus Screen Protectors for Nokia 5800

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Free Apps & Games for your Nokia 5800

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JUST GOT YOUR 5800/TUBEY? GO HERE FIRST! :
What to do when you first get your Nokia 5800 XM
All About Symbian Guide for 5800 First Timers

Dedicated for the latest S60 5th edition phones:

Free download!

Talking Dictionary
Touch Card Match
Touch Maneuver
Touch Piano
Touch Guitar
Touch Popper
Motion Dice Box
TVB widget
Mail for Exchange
Fortune & Fengshui Guide
AA Mobile Widget
Y-Browser
MSN Live Messenger
Epocware Handy Series (Handy Weather, Shell, Converter, etc)
Handwriting Calculator
Avatar SMS
Mobile Paint
Profile Scheduler
Camera FX (Use front camera to take photo)
World Mate
SMS Timer
Profile Scheduler, Theme Scheduler, Fake Messages
Location Tagger
MyPhone (Trial Ver)
cCam (To mute the sound when taking photo)
KillMe (Process Manager / To kill unwanted programs/processes)
MANY MORE ARE COMING SOON!

More FREE THEMES/APPS available here:

http://nokiafanboy.com
http://nokia5800.net
http://my.s60blog.com
http://www.pizero.net/
http://symbian.smashpop.net/
http://www.drjukka.com/index.html
http://www.symbian-freak.com
http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/applications
Tutorial: Adding GMail Push Email To The Nokia Xpressmusic 5800
http://dailymobile.se/forum/symbian-s60v5-themes/

Are you one of the owner? Grab one of this userbar now!

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Some known problems which may occur on your Nokia 5800 (which happened randomly on the phone)

Quoted from the owners:
You may DIY and fix it. (Do it at your own risk)
Source 1 | Source 2 (Or you may refer Post #6.)

Alternatively, send in for warranty claim.

On 5/1/09 - We have forumer sent it to Nokia Care Centre, located at plaza berjaya.. 1st floor. it took about 1-2 hours to fix.
So according to him, the speaker is fixed! and no more volume fluctuation!

Give it a soft reset by key in *#7370#
Lock code: 12345
Its equivalent to a factory reset to default settings. All programs will be lost. Backup here means using either built-in backup utility or PC Suite backup to backup all your messages, contacts, calendar, to-dos, meetings, and necessary phone settings. Content in micro-SD card is unaffected but applications installed in it will be re-detected by the phone and re-installed automatically. It works like a charm.
Don't worry about the light leakage. Its typical to see it and am very sure any phones/products made in plastic will see such imperfections.

On 5/1/09, a forumer sent a letter to Nokia about the speaker poroblem, apparently Nokia isn't aware of this issue yet.
Here's the reply from them:

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8/1/09 - Here's the POLL result created by forumer chezzball. About the user statistic of Nokia 5800 defect / working perfectly.
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Method 1
Guides written by Eiraku ~ Tutorial for Handbrake

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Method 2 : RMBV to MP4 Converter

Method 3 : WINAVI MP4 Converter

Method 4 (Added on 21/2/09)
Guides written by RiuK3n. ~ Tutorial for Super converter

Pros & Cons
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Before Starting

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NOKIA 5800 XPRESS MUSIC OWNER LIST (UPDATED: 30/01/09)

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The RED Team
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The BLUE Team
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You want your name to be in the list? PM me (better)/write in the forum.

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DIY FIX: Speaker volume problem.

(Do it at your own risk. If you can't handle it, send it back to Nokia Care Centre and let the professionals do it for you)

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Articles & Photos courtesy of Snake from mynokia.su & our LYN forumer jye'n.

Before you start, there's a suggestion by the Snake.

**Attention! All the action is desirable to carry out in the bathroom, because there is no dust because of the humidity.

1) Use the plectrum, open the top cover/lid starting from the camera button.

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You should remove only the plastic 'frame' which locks the screen to the phone's body. It is detachable on its own (no screen, no metal parts).

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Oh hey, you look lost!!!
No worries, here's a Youtube LIVE demo about the DIY steps!!

2) This is how it looks like when the earpiece is in place:

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Next, use a flat-head ('-' type precision tool or any small screw driver.

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3) Removing the earpiece will reveal the two contact points on the mainboard for the earpiece.

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4) Here's the default appearance of the earpiece (bottom):

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To make sure the pins can touch the contact points (highlighted above) properly, I bended the earpiece pins 'upwards'. (Be very careful here not to break the pins. You may want to hold points A and B while bending.

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Now, you're done with bending. Next, put back the earpiece. Here's the tricky part, as you may have forgotten which is the correct position to put in. No worry, the part is keyed, meaning, it can only go in one way. Try the other way if the 1st trial fails. DO NOT force it in, it should go in smoothly.

5) Put back the the cover and the plastic 'frame'. Now you're done
and can forget about the earpiece problem forever smile.gif
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Firmware Upgrading
APAC v11
http://www.rayfile.com/files/e142c71e-dcc9...9-0014221b798a/

Phoenix 2008 patch, download one of it only
1. http://www.namipan.com/d/Phoenix2008Patche...ca634bdf1c51107

2. http://www.rayfile.com/zh-cn/files/0260d2b...9-0014221b798a/
This is fast, but you need to install rayfile app (RaySource), something like a download manager. you can download RaySource from here
RaySource http://static.rayfile.com/en/client/
Guide on installing Phoenix & firmware.

3. Latest Firmware Update & Logs

4. To download Nokia Software Updater

5. To check on: Latest Firmware Availability

6. Flashing your Bricked/Dead Nokia 5800 phone - Hard Reset Your 5800

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Nokia Care Centre (KL/PJ)

KUALA LUMPUR

Mobile Technic Sdn Bhd
Bukit Bintang Plaza,
GC 006 Tingkat Bawah,
Bukit Bintang Plaza,
Jalan Bukit Bintang,
Kuala Lumpur 55100
Phone: (603) 21422211

Nokia Store
No.8 , Jln Telawi 3,
Bangsar Baru,
Kuala Lumpur 59100
Phone: (603) 22840629/9529

Saujana Erat Sdn Bhd
12, Jln 65C, Pekeliling Business Centre,
Jln Pahang Barat,Kuala Lumpur 53000
Phone: (603) 4024 4655

Zitron Enterprise
13th Floor, Plaza Berjaya,
Jln Imbi,Kuala Lumpur 55100
Phone: (603) 21415993

Zitron Enterprise
Nokia Care Center,
Lot 1.03 & 1.04, 1st Flr, Podium Block ,
Plaza Berjaya, 12 Jalan Imbi, Kuala Lumpur 55100
Phone: (603) 2142 8088

SELANGOR

Mobile Technic Sdn Bhd
AMCORP TRADE CENTER,
W-10-21, 10th Floor, Melawangi Business Suites,
Amcorp Trade Centre, 18, Jalan Persiaran Barat,
Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan 46050
Phone: (603) 79572211

Zitron Enterprise
Lot 860, 2nd Floor,
One Utama Shopping Centre,
Petaling Jaya 60000
Phone: (603) 77253306

Nokia Store
F2.06, 1st Floor, Sunway Pyramid,
No.3 Jln PJS 11/15 Bandar Sunway,
Petaling Jaya, Selangor 46150
Phone: (603) 74921906

KEDAH
Saujana Erat Sdn Bhd
No. 86, Ground floor,
Jalan Lagenda 1,
Lagenda Heights,
Sungai Petani, Kedah
08000

Phone:(604) 425 2533
Fax: (604) 422 7678
9:00am - 5:45pm - Mon- Friday / Alternate Sat 2nd & 4th 9:00am-1:00pm

PENANG
Mobile Technic Sdn Bhd*
Nokia Care Center,
G-8, Megamall Pinang,
2828 Jalan Baru,
Bandar Perai Jaya,Perai, Penang
13600

Phone: (604) 3903311
Fax: (604) 3907878
11:00am to 8:00pm Monday - Saturday

Zitron Enterprise
1st Floor, 2A,
Jalan Brown Road,
Penang
10350

Phone: (604) 2278868
Fax: (604) 2289868
9:00am - 6:00pm - Mon- Friday

PERAK
26, Persiaran Greentown,
Pusat Perdagangan Greentown,
Ipoh, Perak 30450

Phone: (605) 2536292 , (605) 2536292
Fax: (605) 2535292 , (605) 2535292
9:00am - 6:00pm - Mon - Friday. Off on Sun & public holidays

Full list of centres :- Avaxx.com

For other states, if you find any info, kindly PM or post & share in the forum.

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Tutorial: Installing Garmin Mobile XT On The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic RELOADED Part Deux : Click Me!

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Should you have any queries, feel free to discuss on the board. biggrin.gif

*Photos are for illustration purposes only, quoted from eprice.com.tw
*They're using Papago, something like our Garmin software, but is specifically for Taiwan only.

Problems with Gramin XT V5 on the 5800:

The background program TSRAUTORUN.EXE runs EVERY time you restart your phone / Run Gramin XT --> Kills your battery life...

Solution: http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discus...sage.uid=417412

But you STILL NEED TO KILL TSRAUTORUN.EXE with KillMe (provided above) or Best TaskMan EACH TIME YOU EXIT Gramin XT... sweat.gif

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Nokia 5800 Tips & Tricks

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Contributed by hvaly.

General
1. Use Dialer and press # for about 2 seconds will switch the profile between Silent and General; press and hold 0 will open the web browser; press and hold 1 will open the voice mailbox
2. There is a shortcut key for Music, Gallery, Share, Video, Web shortcut at the top right corner just below the front camera
3. Press and hold the Green caller button when standby mode will activate the voice command. You could call the name from the contact or application name.
4. Organize your sms by grouping them like outlook by Messaging -> Option -> Setting -> Text message -> Other -> Show messages in groups -> Yes
5. Notification light will blink if there is unread sms/missed call. It could be turned off at Settings -> Notification light -> Off
6. If the touch input is not accurate, you could calibrate your screen at Touch Input-> Touch Screen Calibration -> ( Tap around the 4 dots at the corner)
7. Turning control functions:
a. Rotate your screen horizontal or vertical
b. Silence your phone for incoming call by rotate your phone with screen facing down.
c. Snooze the alarm by rotating phone screen facing down
8. Theme effect will give 3D and transition effect if on but will slow down your tube considerably. Settings -> Personal -> Themes -> General -> Themes effects -> On/Off
9. Shortcut to exit application : Press and hold the middle white button then press and hold the program that you wish to quit, an open/exit option will pop out (useful for those haven’t install handy taskman yet)
10. When using handwriting input, slide from left to right is Spacebar, right to left is Backspace
11. Organize your menu by Menu -> option -> organize. You could drag and drop the location of the application you wish to relocate.

Battery saving
1. Always turn off wireless scanning, Bluetooth when not in use
2. For those not using 3G, choose your network mode to “GSM” instead of “Dual mode” which will consume more battery. Settings -> Connectivity -> Network mode -> GSM
3. Less Display Light
a. Setting -> Phone -> Display -> light sensor (move the slider to the left)
b. Setting -> Phone -> Display -> Light Time-Out (lesser time to save battery but annoying if too short while you are playing games)
4. Always terminate the application properly that is not using by using Option ->Exit. It might be running background and consuming battery which you don’t know.

Memory Saving
1. Restart your phone if the memory less than 30MB, you could either soft reset (User a dialer and dial 5 * * then call) or hard reset by pressing the power button
2. Use Handy Taskman to close all application regularly or kill application that is not in use.

Camera & Picture
1. Some noise could be reduced if set the ISO sensitivity to low instead of auto.
2. When viewing pictures, you could use your stylus to view for previous (slide left) or next (slide right) picture like iphone feature.
Video
For converting video that is high quality to play at 5800, should use the mp4 format as below (All is 16:9 widescreen):
a) Xvid @ 678kbps resolution 480×272
b) Xvid @794kpbs resolution 640×352
c) H.264 @ 512kbps resolution 400×224
d) H.264 @ 550kbps resolution 400×224 (Recommended)

Music
1. If you can’t find your songs after transferring from your pc to memory card, go to music player -> Option -> Refresh library

Application
1. Always install your phone theme on the memory cards. This is because if some theme does not work (Christmas tree) then you need to flash your phone.
2. Uninstall your application in proper way. Use Menu -> Setting -> Application mgr. -> Installed apps -> Choose application then option n uninstall

Known Bugs
1. While u are using music player on your phone and there is incoming calls, the phone will use the default nokia ring tone as the memory card is used by the music player.
2. The inclination sensor is over-sensitive. The screen will changed to horizontal mode even slight rotate.
3. Regarding the screen blank and locked when calling, this is because the proximity sensor if blocked it will make the screen black when calling. The block is including some glossy transparent film, so please cut out the film around the sensor located between the middle earpiece and front camera.
4. Do not save your themes/apps in phone memory, save in memory card instead. In case some applications or themes are corrupted, you could just reformat your memory card.
5. (With V11 firmware) You cannot rename newly created equalizer presets. (NEW)

QUOTE(Kaizzya @ Jan 25 2009, 11:16 PM)
for no 5

u can rename it..
just use other preset first then rename it
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HOW TO READ THE IMEI CODE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR TUBEY WAS MADE

Contributed by AsuKi

To find out where your nokia phone was made look at digits number 7and 8 (YY) of your IMEI.

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LINKIES TO OTHER TIPS

http://www.darlamack.com/darlamack/2008/03...y-performa.html

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Boss pana want to enjoy CNY so here I am taking care of the V6 for a while... biggrin.gif

Ceh... Still 1st post race ah?

Planning to add Accessories Review to the FrontPage™... Targeting the Fiio E3/E5 for review right now... Maybe a pair of Bijous in a while... biggrin.gif
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Wow..V6 already...nice..

And I see we now have Eiraku as the thread starter..nice notworthy.gif

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