which means if really serious about engine mods have to fork out lotsa lotsa cash
otherwise go for light/ simpler mods.

did i get that right?

huh i forgot  zen...must be tough to get the cps there...ehh eujin can wut me onli next next month will be around
ahaha......free LED guys
not all kl love AT maa...if want cilok2 rushing racing to office ...better MT..
tt? still waiting others...
dammn eujin ,nice rear light n that interior light ...my slipper always missing down there...soo will do like this soon..but the light onli open once u open up the door right??

but if use neo.... you need to know that item cheat yr signal form map sensor to ecu ....the map sensor signal 1-5volt, it variable depend on intake manifold pressure..... so if you decrease fuel at neo..... ecu will read low signal from map sensor & inject less fuel.... map sensor signal not only control fuel map... it also interrelated with ignition map...  so less map sensor signal.... ecu will advance the ignition timing ... so you need to know how to tune it.... it dangerous also if someone play with it... kekekekekkee...

so from what i tell you above.... you can still play with ignition timing with neo..... hehehehe.... thats the tuner secret to get advance ign timing...... but need to counter back fuel with other devices.... hehehe

need to know more pm me.... 

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Added on March 11, 2009, 12:57 pm
if coating..... the heat will not easily loss from combustion chamber.... more heat more power to push piston....
but it not improve much in term of power.... 

the main coating function to keep piston cold.... normally use for turbo ( more heat producer)....  + oil nozzel spray at bottom of piston.... that piston can survive at extreme condition...
this ceramic coating worth if you increase compression ratio over 13:1 .... at 13:1, you cannot use 97 octane petrol... need to race fuel to ensure yr engine can survive....

have you see dyno graph from rsimpressive ?? they use 2wd DASTEK dynamometer .... maybe the software to get the data have graph linear or correction or averaging like that.... so we see it smooth... i think both of them use same dyno machine type.... unichip make by dastek oso....

see old campro torque after tune with unichip at rsimpressive..... low torque graph superb....

huummm... dunno....  that car auto.... auto gearbox long ratio..... at 2nd gear auto nearly 3rd of cps manual if compare ratio..... that's why they use 2nd maybe....   

Alamak... signed everything already. My dad went and collect from the SA. Dun even think got any gifts. Some more my mom test it afterwards and almost kena accident. Sweat!
That's why I tot better go back and get it this weekend before anything happens.
Touch wood!

Hey!  , u guys modding engine now eh..about time issit haha.

Anyway, my car balancing still not rite after doing align/balancing for two times d (once at my fav tyre shop, once at PSC). Still a bit shaky above 110km/h. Alignment also not totally fixed yet, a foreman said the steering bush is worn out..another foreman at SC said nothing's wrong with the steering bush. I checked myself at halt, can see the steering rack moving when steered around..mayb its really the bush i guess.

Can u guys suggest a good place to do align/balancing in KL? (RACE probably?). Stress ler drive fast but not stable...

to norseman - grats on ur new car man, hope ur car all good!

ok... for yr info... i'll give kmh @ 6500rpm @ all campro gearbox.. all use 195/55/15 tyre...


from the table above.... if that campro auto use 3rd gear(181 kmh at 6500rpm) compare campro cps manual at 3rd gear (123kmh at 6500rpm) 

so ....

181 - 123 = 58kmh different.. ( that alot )
- so cannot dyno at 3rd gear for auto..... sure show very low hp.... hahahahaha

if use 2nd gear campro auto....

123-118 = 5kmh only different....
- that why they dyno at 2nd for auto........ only 5kmh different...
5kmh diff..... that mean 2nd auto & 3rd manual  ratio almost the same.....
i hope you can understand.....  before talk please do some calculation.....  heheheehe   

wow...that's absolutely stunning. This Gen2 only install Unichip alone can get such huge improvement on torque?

For Gen2 CPS , i heard the speed can go above 200km/h

do i need to modify anything ?

i just afraid proton has speed limit to avoid exceed certain speed

i never knows that the gear ratio can be calculated via kmh, hey thanks for the info.

Btw, from ur explaination above the ratio can be determined via speed, then does AT have higher top speed compare to MT? Campro MT 5th gear gives 224kmh@6500rpm while Campro AT gives 254kmh@6500rpm.

i'm shocked with the AT n MT top speed... phew! my balls already kecut when reach 160-170kmh... let alone going to 254kmh!!

aiyooo.... you cannot compare speed like that.... on table you see camtakpro more laju rignt??.... but camtakpro need more power to move at all gear compare to campro cps.... so torque at wheel much more better for cps...

so cps can get speed more faster than camtakpro.. so cps win....

if you see vtec ratio, it super close gear + super hi rev engine = vroooommmmm

if camtakpro mod to 200hp.... for sure it can get more top speed coz of gear ratio....

if cps wanna get top speed better than camtakpro.... just change final drive or bigger tyre circumference or change 5th gear ratio... that's all...

You guys know anything about Maxxis Vectra MA-z1?
Was recommended in the other thread and I saw some good reviews online.

sphiroth u use falken 912..205\50\16?how much it cost u?btw few cesam rim with good color n design..but the price quite high....lightweight osso...

im interested to grab gen2 cps ...

may i know what difference between 1st batch and 2nd batch ? does it mean 1st batch is 2008 and 2nd batch is 2009 ?

and what is the speed cut thingy you guys talking about

hummm... for yr info.... they select gear depend on gear ratio that match with engine revolution.....  example : engine rotate at 5000rpm, tyre rotate at 4700rpm.... so they select that gear....  that mean they want to eliminate other factor, they want to measure power closely from engine.... so other parameter need to set properly, from that we can get accurate whp......

normally japan car all close ratio, so they select 4th gear.....
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Gear ratio :

campro mt

1 - 3.583
2 - 1.974
3 - 1.343
4 - 0.976
5 - 0.804
final drive - 4.052
campro at

1 - 2.842
2 - 1.529
3 - 1.000
4 - 0.712
final drive - 4.042
campro cps mt

1 - 3.583
2 - 1.947
3 - 1.379
4 - 1.030
5 - 0.767
final drive - 4.312
campro cps at

1 - 2.842
2 - 1.529
3 - 1.000
4 - 0.712
final drive - 4.406

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here have the formula

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear_ratio
*ps. i have software to calculate gear... no need to calculate hehehe... just give me email i can give you

bro..... please see the ratio..... i hope you understand....

it not about brand or where it come from.......... it all about ratio...

you no need to think about it..... all tuner at dyno shop know what he is doing.... hehehehe

if you want to see more power... ask the tuner to dyno at 2nd gear.... no prob bro.....

or try dyno at 5th gear..... ppl will start asking when see yr dyno sheet.... why yr cps engine so weak???? 80hp only?? hehehehe

See which ratio? Campro/CPS AT ratio vs Vtec ratio or Campro/CPS AT ratio vs Mit's ratio or Campro/CPS AT ratio vs MT? Kindly be more specific.

I'm not comparing the brand but you're the one said all japanese car is close ratio, so that spark my doubt about it. So do u mean all is depends on gear ratio not all japanese car, am I right?

already explain above :


i said NORMALLY japan car dyno at 4th gear....but not all japan car are close ratio.. becoz there speed limit 180kmh.... so the engineer not design the gearbox for hi speed.... have you try b16a vtec, evo, mivec...  humm that car 120kmh at 5th gear around 3800-4300rpm....
i'm sorry not to explain detail.... i tought you all already notice it..
no need to VS campro or vtec or mitsu.....  just see ratio... tuner know which gear to select....
no need to confuse sphiroth..... if neo r3 use 4th gear & get that power.... that was superb.... if use 3rd maybe the figure may be better...

slip is not the prob.... 1000hp car oso can be dyno.... 2000hp car oso can be dyno..     just 300hp turbo car noting...

i now just talking here.... before this i own wira 400hp...  i oso know tuning haltech & protech... want proof oso i can give... have vid oso....  below link if someone wanna see my old car

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car...evo-400bhp.html

feel free to see my old vid... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDO_AfWlmVI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4U7M9uZvNI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4_7cGg5b08
.... dun have dynosheet... just search garrett gt30r turbo dyno....

To All - My apologies for asking this in this thread .... I'm looking for R3 HPPC ... Can anyone here help me, where I can get this High Performance Plug Cable? or guide me to the thread where I can find this.

Thanks

Thanks bro - Im from Penang. Do you have their contatct number ... I will check with them

what a waste u did not keep a copy of dyno chart for memory. By the way what garrett gt30r turbo dyno has to do with your 400hp wira?