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post Dec 18 2011, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(kuaLe_AGX @ Dec 18 2011, 02:49 AM)
i agree on the bolded part. The villain is not a focal point of the movie unlike the previous movies. Its more about the IMF disavowed agent do on their own
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One thing (and now I remember) is that the difficulties they go through in order to make the mission work and how it did not go smoothly as it should. Did we see that in the previous series? hmm.gif

Because if the previous series the missions were done quite smoothly (and not because of the villains one step ahead of the IMF team), then it also look into how difficult it was for Ethan's IMF team being disavowed and they had to depend on whatever current technology they have then to make the mission work without the assistance of the government... makes Ghost Protocol title meaning more realistic (besides the action sequence of course)
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post Dec 18 2011, 01:16 PM

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even the first mission (saving Ethan) from the prison already facing obstacle (Ethan changed of plan to save the fellow inmate together)
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post Dec 18 2011, 10:10 PM

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I watched at IMAX Sunway Pyramid today..

-The scene where he drive the BMW 1 series so FAKE! How can suddenly press START button engine start without key.

- BMW 6 Series Convertible softop roof terbang in sandstorm, FFFUUUU my Dream car not reliable leh...

- The chase scene between the Audi Q7 and the BMW 6 Series, how come the Audi driver can escape and lari after crash that teruk?

But then, the IMAX experience is AWESOME! Can even feel the seats shaking..
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post Dec 19 2011, 12:03 AM

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Am I the only one that thinks that this MI is not up on par as the older episodes?.... hmm.gif

Story line to me is so-so only. The older episodes have better plots as well as more visual plots.

Actions wise, I think previous installment is better although most are ridiculously unreal same as the older ones. How can you get a knock flying from a few blocks up hitting the glass in the face yet still have a shinny smile with no bruise.

Suspense wise I can hardly see any. As compared to the older installment, the suspense keeps you on the seat.

To me, this is the worst MI flicks I have seen.
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post Dec 19 2011, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 19 2011, 12:03 AM)
Am I the only one that thinks that this MI is not up on par as the older episodes?.... hmm.gif

Story line to me is so-so only. The older episodes have better plots as well as more visual plots.

Actions wise, I think previous installment is better although most are ridiculously unreal same as the older ones. How can you get a knock flying from a few blocks up hitting the glass in the face yet still have a shinny smile with no bruise.

Suspense wise I can hardly see any. As compared to the older installment, the suspense keeps you on the seat.

To me, this is the worst MI flicks I have seen.
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agreed on this, watched it on imax pyramid just now as well...
while entertaining it doesnt feel as good as the previous ones...
the story is a little too straight forward imho, development wasn't tat well and as many mentioned before (if they have no IMF, they are not really hunted that much as well)...

still it is entertaining as a action flick (just like diehard)...
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post Dec 19 2011, 01:17 AM

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Not one of the best MI series in my IMHO. Action wise is good thou unrealistic too over the top if u ask me.

But to me they should have utilize more on the mask thingy. For me tats part of the essence of an MI series. It's like a Bond flick with no hot chick sad.gif
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post Dec 19 2011, 05:41 AM

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QUOTE(emook99 @ Dec 19 2011, 01:17 AM)
Not one of the best MI series in my IMHO. Action wise is good thou unrealistic too over the top if u ask me.

But to me they should have utilize more on the mask thingy. For me tats part of the essence of an MI series. It's like a Bond flick with no hot chick sad.gif
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In MI, you get to see Ethan puts away a mask into a bag when one of the fire brigade member questions him for his credentials - Nothing fancy here.
In MI2, you get to see Ethan actually pulls off Hugh Stamp's mask when he was escaping from the facility - Ok, that was cool.
In MI3, you get to see how the mask was manufactured in the scene where Luther and Ethan were discussing about marriage life - Wow, so that's how it came about!

I wonder what's the mask scene like in MI4. tongue.gif
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post Dec 19 2011, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(domcobb @ Dec 19 2011, 05:41 AM)
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I wonder what's the mask scene like in MI4.  tongue.gif
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The villain with no plot in it had one on.... tongue.gif
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post Dec 19 2011, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 19 2011, 12:03 AM)
Am I the only one that thinks that this MI is not up on par as the older episodes?.... hmm.gif

Story line to me is so-so only. The older episodes have better plots as well as more visual plots.

Actions wise, I think previous installment is better although most are ridiculously unreal same as the older ones. How can you get a knock flying from a few blocks up hitting the glass in the face yet still have a shinny smile with no bruise.

Suspense wise I can hardly see any. As compared to the older installment, the suspense keeps you on the seat.

To me, this is the worst MI flicks I have seen.
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Ur nt alone my fren, I too find it average. One of the weaker in the series. Best is still the 1st and the 3rd.
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post Dec 19 2011, 10:08 AM

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among all 4 MI, I've enjoyed this one the most thumbup.gif
maybe because it got more humor in it compared to previous one
also maybe this time they are depending more on luck and instinct, rather than technologies and well planned strategies,

like the scene in water with the flare
I was WTF??? at first, so stupid meh?
but with the explanation afterward, it all make sence thumbup.gif
Also that's about high tech stuff, which will break down most of the time tongue.gif

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post Dec 19 2011, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 19 2011, 01:03 AM)
Am I the only one that thinks that this MI is not up on par as the older episodes?.... hmm.gif

Story line to me is so-so only. The older episodes have better plots as well as more visual plots.

Actions wise, I think previous installment is better although most are ridiculously unreal same as the older ones. How can you get a knock flying from a few blocks up hitting the glass in the face yet still have a shinny smile with no bruise.

Suspense wise I can hardly see any. As compared to the older installment, the suspense keeps you on the seat.

To me, this is the worst MI flicks I have seen.
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like you, i failed to see whats all the bubla about MI4, it was pointed out the villain is almost 'non-existent', almost card board character but it was pointed out the main reason of the film is about how the whole IMF got disavowed & its about how ethan & his 2+1 remaining IMF gets impossible to save the world from nuclear war. second half of the movies was when hollywood meets bollywood, well the tamed the singing but still had a little gloss of dancing

the bollywood (Anil Kapoor, i think) was well, did his part as he was suppose too, i guess (as a playboy billionaire indian style) but card board character in hollywood view.

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post Dec 19 2011, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Dec 19 2011, 10:08 AM)
among all 4 MI, I've enjoyed this one the most thumbup.gif
maybe because it got more humor in it compared to previous one
also maybe this time they are depending more on luck and instinct, rather than technologies and well planned strategies,

like the scene in water with the flare
I was WTF??? at first, so stupid meh?
but with the explanation afterward, it all make sence thumbup.gif
Also that's about high tech stuff, which will break down most of the time tongue.gif
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That scene bolded above as you mention I felt was quite a good man-made way to escape laugh.gif

Yeah, I felt it too as well. While it is different compare to the rest of the series (since to each of their own, the directors had their own style to go along with it), its not about its the best or not but rather how entertaining the movie gets for anybody. For me, its good enough to keep the pacing of the movie flowing. I mean... it's MISSION IMPOSSIBLE - how reality can this get to even say "hey, its unrealistic".

For me, its still a fun movie and enjoyable to watch.
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post Dec 19 2011, 10:23 AM

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2nd is ok if one likes John Woo's ala actions.... MI2 has the most actions with guns blaring here and there...

At least one will always remember the motorcycle chase scene. But for Ghost Protocol, I just can't seem to think of any memorable scenes as a punch as well as a lot of character's story just died off and left hanging.

MI3 has the best plot so far and many good acting. A balance mix of action vs drama. MI1 drill into more story drama.

When I read through, I'm actually surprised many thinks that it's among the best from all the 4 installments which I thought I'm the only odd one out.

My point is to make it better, they could have actually include the scene on how the Serbs supposedly taken out Ethan's wife and how Ethan supposedly massacre the 6 Serbs assassins. Those flashback scene can be while Brandt is relating his experience in overshadowing Ethan.

As usual, most of the action are too exaggerating to the point of unreal. At least pls make it more believable. You see Bond with crooked face bruises and all. You see Jason Bourne with gun shot wounds, cuts etc... but Ethan was just too perfect with hardly and injury to tend to. Except of course the last scene which again ppl or at least I would expect a better suspense yet to me is a let down how the fight ended.

Overall to me this is the sort of movie you went to and say bravo, yes actions and slight "cold" humor then the next thing you know, you forgot about the story because there's no story intact as the plot is left hanging.

I almost booked Gold Class, and luckily I didn't. Else I would have regretted it.
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what BMW is cruise drive to the party?
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post Dec 19 2011, 10:26 AM

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By the way, how long is this movie?
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post Dec 19 2011, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Dec 19 2011, 10:08 AM)
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also maybe this time they are depending more on luck and instinct, rather than technologies and well planned strategies,

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If you asked me, I would say all the MIs before that had their plan foiled up and Ethan always depends on hunches and luck which is the biggest factor in most of the "espionage" movies out there. This one just showed that all the backup equipments failed to the max.

On the humour part, to me most of the installment has it. Just that whether everyone gets it. This is more blatant. However when I watched it on Saturday morning, hardly anyone laughed out loud in the Cinema.


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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Dec 19 2011, 10:24 AM)
what BMW is cruise drive to the party?
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BMW concept car.

QUOTE(domcobb @ Dec 19 2011, 10:26 AM)
By the way, how long is this movie?
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2 hrs.


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post Dec 19 2011, 10:54 AM

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Anybody knows whether got The Dark Knight Rises prologue before the movie?
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QUOTE(b00n @ Dec 19 2011, 10:23 AM)
2nd is ok if one likes John Woo's ala actions.... MI2 has the most actions with guns blaring here and there...

At least one will always remember the motorcycle chase scene. But for Ghost Protocol, I just can't seem to think of any memorable scenes as a punch as well as a lot of character's story just died off and left hanging.

MI3 has the best plot so far and many good acting. A balance mix of action vs drama. MI1 drill into more story drama.

When I read through, I'm actually surprised many thinks that it's among the best from all the 4 installments which I thought I'm the only odd one out.

My point is to make it better, they could have actually include the scene on how the Serbs supposedly taken out Ethan's wife and how Ethan supposedly massacre the 6 Serbs assassins. Those flashback scene can be while Brandt is relating his experience in overshadowing Ethan.

As usual, most of the action are too exaggerating to the point of unreal. At least pls make it more believable. You see Bond with crooked face bruises and all. You see Jason Bourne with gun shot wounds, cuts etc... but  Ethan was just too perfect with hardly and injury to tend to. Except of course the last scene which again ppl or at least I would expect a better suspense yet to me is a let down how the fight ended.

Overall to me this is the sort of movie you went to and say bravo, yes actions and slight "cold" humor then the next thing you know, you forgot about the story because there's no story intact as the plot is left hanging.

I almost booked Gold Class, and luckily I didn't. Else I would have regretted it.
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I don't know - I felt M:I-2 did not have much action but did focus on the story between Ethan and Nyah Nordoff-Hall (played by Thandie Newton). For me, this was one of the least favorite John Woo films I ever felt disappointed (Hard-Boiled to this day is my all-time favorite because when it comes to most action and gun blazing - not a single movie can top this that able to create a good plot with it).

The thing about Mission: Impossible series - it is about teamwork and not about just one person - which the first three films always focus on Ethan Hunt alone... and the only one in action. Ghost Protocol on the other hand... and surprisingly, the team members themselves get into action (except Benji Dunn... at least, he fire a shot) themselves in their own way.

While many argue about the mask method - the actual TV series was never about that but rather about to each of the abilities of the team members of IMF and each of the members have their own screen time. The movie series on the other hand (for the first three) - its always Ethan Hunt. At least... Ghost Protocol has that balance for the IMF team.

I do not know but funny... nobody mention Josh Holloway here laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mnhma @ Dec 19 2011, 10:54 AM)
Anybody knows whether got The Dark Knight Rises prologue before the movie?
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Again, no.

I felt this was the best MI ever. And my experience was made better with IMAX.

I get the villain though. In the sense that he's trying to create chaos in the hopes of just watching the world burn, so that we could evolve further. Thinks he's sort of a messiah as such.

Anil Kapoor however, was a huge waste! His character is just sad...

Gotta hand it down to Simon Pegg and Jeremy Renner though. It would've been crazier if it was Nick Frost, but I don't think that's possible. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(hairyLGS @ Dec 19 2011, 10:56 AM)
I don't know - I felt M:I-2 did not have much action but did focus on the story between Ethan and Nyah Nordoff-Hall (played by Thandie Newton). For me, this was one of the least favorite John Woo films I ever felt disappointed (Hard-Boiled to this day is my all-time favorite because when it comes to most action and gun blazing - not a single movie can top this that able to create a good plot with it).

The thing about Mission: Impossible series - it is about teamwork and not about just one person - which the first three films always focus on Ethan Hunt alone... and the only one in action. Ghost Protocol on the other hand... and surprisingly, the team members themselves get into action (except Benji Dunn... at least, he fire a shot) themselves in their own way.

While many argue about the mask method - the actual TV series was never about that but rather about to each of the abilities of the team members of IMF and each of the members have their own screen time. The movie series on the other hand (for the first three) - its always Ethan Hunt. At least... Ghost Protocol has that balance for the IMF team.

I do not know but funny... nobody mention Josh Holloway here  laugh.gif
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Too little, but he did good really. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 19 2011, 10:58 AM)
Again, no.

I felt this was the best MI ever. And my experience was made better with IMAX.

I get the villain though. In the sense that he's trying to create chaos in the hopes of just watching the world burn, so that we could evolve further. Thinks he's sort of a messiah as such.

Anil Kapoor however, was a huge waste! His character is just sad...

Gotta hand it down to Simon Pegg and Jeremy Renner though. It would've been crazier if it was Nick Frost, but I don't think that's possible. laugh.gif


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Too little, but he did good really. biggrin.gif
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For me - he stands out still... and yet not a lead role for him still (except "Whisper" - a role so waste as a horror movie) in any action genre... sweat.gif


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QUOTE(mnhma @ Dec 19 2011, 10:54 AM)
Anybody knows whether got The Dark Knight Rises prologue before the movie?
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That's applicable in the US.

This post has been edited by hairyLGS: Dec 19 2011, 11:07 AM

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