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TSsasaug
post Jan 15 2009, 03:17 PM, updated 17y ago

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I am stuck with this 2 since my dad state that Form6 is better since I can stand a chance to go in local uni.If i cant go in local uni,then he baru send me to UTAR or MMU.

I am still waiting for my SPM result.Hopefully can score all 11 subject...

So it is a good choice to take stpm with chance to save me up to rm50k ++ on tuition fees?How abou the education quality?Let say UM vs MMU,which one will be better?I am a chinese anyway... icon_rolleyes.gif

Btw,I am interested in engineering in electronic majoring in IT or computer..I saw MMU offer stuff lik tis smile.gif

Plan for PTPTN loan..but if local one,my dad say no loan can pay straight.. sad.gif

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post Jan 15 2009, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Kenneth85 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:21 PM)
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:23 PM

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Yes indeed form 6 is the most cheapest pre-U course if compared to other similar program and in fact also the hardest among them.But dont be detered cause once you scored form 6,everything will eventually open up for you.

Plus they have this JPA local scholarship where you get RM100 per month and free tuition fee for form 6 if you scored 8A for SPM and above.

Just remember to work your ass out and at least secure a good public uni.I tell you their course fee is super cheap.A 5 year medical course is only bout RM30k.

Compare that to private Uni which starts at RM100k above.Plus you can get scholarship using JPA IPTA scholarship and also easily borrow from PTPTN

The reason why many people hate Form 6 is because you are still bound to school rules.IPTS has much more freedom and you do not need to wear uniform.

Other than that,its just the same.Form 6 result are recognised even in Singapore,Australia and US.


I experienced what you did and has already moved on.

Firstly where are you from?Electrical engineering is available in alot of private uni.UTAR also has this course but its now in kampar campus

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post Jan 15 2009, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Jan 15 2009, 03:22 PM)
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for me, form 6 is just a waste of time... better apply to MMU directly than wasting form 6 time.
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:24 PM

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local U fees are very low~~perhaps one year just few thousand.you just have to pay on accomodation
yes you should take STPM,if you are a bright student cause you should be able to cope with it.
if you know you confirm cannot cope with it,then dont waste your 2 yrs on stpm
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:25 PM

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As far as I can remember last time, MMU provides engineering courses and also IT, but not sure the IT domain is more on software engineering.

UTAR you have to go for one year foundation course if you're out from SPM, and 3 years degree course (B. Sc. (Hons))

For public university, will be a bit risky to get the course that you want as they got quota system and also depends on the STPM results.

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post Jan 15 2009, 03:26 PM

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I am SPM grad myself, so I'll just state my 2 cents.

I get into college directly after SPM (TARC by the way), and started pursuing my Diploma cert there. After 2 years I went down to KL to further pursue the Advanced Diploma cum Degree cert.

And now I'm working, at just the age of 22. (Coming 23 end of this month smile.gif ) For me I'm quite grateful I can graduate without repeating.

For me, I'm the kind of guy who prefer to get out there and learn the "Street smarts" value faster instead of being a bookworm and keep learning all the time. That's why I've been working part time after my PMR, SPM, and even diploma years.

There's alot of perspective you can consider with the path you want to take:
Money? If money is not an issue, why not just pursue a degree now?
Future? If you aren't sure what you wanna be in the future, you might want to consider taking this STPM years to consider your future job.
Ego? Being STPM grad makes you feel more bangga? biggrin.gif Or being a Degree grad at the age of 22/23 makes you feel special when you come out working?

Hope that helps.


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post Jan 15 2009, 03:27 PM

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just imagine at the age of 22, you wil be graduated with a Degree from IPTA .while it take up to age 24 to complete a degree in Local Uni...
in 2 year, you might gain a lot of knowledge of your work...

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QUOTE(779364 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:23 PM)
Yes indeed form 6 is the most cheapest pre-U course if compared to other similar program and in fact also the hardest among them.But dont be detered cause once you scored form 6,everything will eventually open up for you.

Plus they have this JPA local scholarship where you get RM100 per month and free tuition fee for form 6 if you scored 8A for SPM and above.

Just remember to work your ass out and at least secure a good public uni.I tell you their course fee is super cheap.A 5 year medical course is only bout RM30k.

Compare that to private Uni which starts at RM100k above.Plus you can get scholarship using JPA IPTA scholarship and also easily borrow from PTPTN

The reason why many people hate Form 6 is because you are still bound to school rules.IPTS has much more freedom and you do not need to wear uniform.

Other than that,its just the same.Form 6 result are recognised even in Singapore,Australia and US.
I experienced what you did and has already moved on.
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If I'm not mistaken, Form 6 is a Cambridge accreditation, right?
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(779364 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:23 PM)
Yes indeed form 6 is the most cheapest pre-U course if compared to other similar program and in fact also the hardest among them.But dont be detered cause once you scored form 6,everything will eventually open up for you.

Plus they have this JPA local scholarship where you get RM100 per month and free tuition fee for form 6 if you scored 8A for SPM and above.

Just remember to work your ass out and at least secure a good public uni.I tell you their course fee is super cheap.A 5 year medical course is only bout RM30k.

Compare that to private Uni which starts at RM100k above.Plus you can get scholarship using JPA IPTA scholarship and also easily borrow from PTPTN

The reason why many people hate Form 6 is because you are still bound to school rules.IPTS has much more freedom and you do not need to wear uniform.

Other than that,its just the same.Form 6 result are recognised even in Singapore,Australia and US.
I experienced what you did and has already moved on.

Firstly where are you from?Electrical engineering is available in alot of private uni.UTAR also has this course but its now in kampar campus
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Ya....so local uni fees for engineering?

QUOTE(Kenneth85 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:24 PM)
for me, form 6 is just a waste of time... better apply to MMU directly than wasting form 6 time.
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why waste?

QUOTE(andrewleewaikeong @ Jan 15 2009, 03:24 PM)
local U fees are very low~~perhaps one year just few thousand.you just have to pay on accomodation
yes you should take STPM,if you are a bright student cause you should be able to cope with it.
if you know you confirm cannot cope with it,then dont waste your 2 yrs on stpm
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UTAR 1 year 10k....so i save hw many k?

QUOTE(geekster129 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:25 PM)
As far as I can remember last time, MMU provides engineering courses and also IT, but not sure the IT domain is more on software engineering.

UTAR you have to go for one year foundation course if you're out from SPM, and 3 years degree course (B. Sc. (Hons))

For public university, will be a bit risky to get the course that you want as they got quota system and also depends on the STPM results.
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yea...4yrs for engineering...



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post Jan 15 2009, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(gsrc @ Jan 15 2009, 03:26 PM)
I am SPM grad myself, so I'll just state my 2 cents.

I get into college directly after SPM (TARC by the way), and started pursuing my Diploma cert there. After 2 years I went down to KL to further pursue the Advanced Diploma cum Degree cert.

And now I'm working, at just the age of 22. (Coming 23 end of this month smile.gif ) For me I'm quite grateful I can graduate without repeating.

For me, I'm the kind of guy who prefer to get out there and learn the "Street smarts" value faster instead of being a bookworm and keep learning all the time. That's why I've been working part time after my PMR, SPM, and even diploma years.

There's alot of perspective you can consider with the path you want to take:
Money? If money is not an issue, why not just pursue a degree now?
Future? If you aren't sure what you wanna be in the future, you might want to consider taking this STPM years to consider your future job.
Ego? Being STPM grad makes you feel more bangga? biggrin.gif Or being a Degree grad at the age of 22/23 makes you feel special when you come out working?

Hope that helps.
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I'm having the same case with you, gsrc.

I remembered working on some small projects before at DiGi/Maxis for some period of time, and there are technical staffs there who are the same age as me. Some are younger than me also. I've seen a lot of young talents there.

For me, I would emphasize more on being street smart and also working experience. Nowadays economy is bad and it's not easy to get a job as fresh grad (I've gone through that process before), so I would say, it's better to graduate earlier and gain as much experience as possible.

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post Jan 15 2009, 03:32 PM

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http://web.utm.my/fke/

This one is local rite?why the spm student oso can masuk?
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QUOTE(genesic @ Jan 15 2009, 03:27 PM)
just imagine at the age of 22, you wil be graduated with a Degree from IPTA .while it take up to age 24 to complete a degree in Local Uni...
in 2 year, you might gain a lot of knowledge of your work...
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Agree... working experience matters more when you come out to work next time.
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http://web.utm.my/fke/

Can anyone check on this?why spm pun boleh masuk?then requirement so low...
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QUOTE(sasaug @ Jan 15 2009, 03:36 PM)
http://web.utm.my/fke/

Can anyone check on this?why spm pun boleh masuk?then requirement so low...
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I have a feeling for SPM graduates, you probably have to go through 1 year Pre-U program, something like UTAR, then on then second year only you will specialize more on the course itself.

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Jan 15 2009, 03:29 PM)
Ya....so local uni fees for engineering?
why waste?
UTAR 1 year 10k....so i save hw many k?
yea...4yrs for engineering...
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Nolah,UTAR foundation only Rm7200 only.Plus if your SPM get 9A above,can waive tuition fee completely.Their degree course for electrical I think is RM30k around there.

For local uni,its less than RM10k.Not joking.
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post Jan 15 2009, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:39 PM)
Terima Kasih, UTM:

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Joking.

Here's the catch:

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Student intake for the Bachelor degree programs are divided into 2 groups, that are first year admission and the direct entry admission to second and upper year.
Matriculation Programme, Ministry of Education, Malaysia (MOEM)/'Sains Asasi' (UM)

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Jan 15 2009, 03:32 PM)
I'm having the same case with you, gsrc.

I remembered working on some small projects before at DiGi/Maxis for some period of time, and there are technical staffs there who are the same age as me. Some are younger than me also. I've seen a lot of young talents there.

For me, I would emphasize more on being street smart and also working experience. Nowadays economy is bad and it's not easy to get a job as fresh grad (I've gone through that process before), so I would say, it's better to graduate earlier and gain as much experience as possible.
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icon_rolleyes.gif So are you SPM or STPM leg then?



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