Hmm... what do you mean by phasing out?

Hmm sorry for being rude, but what non-sense are you talking about?
I reckon the guy was referring to the phasing out of Engineering degree (meaning undergraduate) in UniMelb, which means that Engineering will only be offered in postgraduate level and no longer in undergraduate.

Hmm sorry for being rude, but what non-sense are you talking about?
I reckon the guy was referring to the phasing out of Engineering degree (meaning undergraduate) in UniMelb, which means that Engineering will only be offered in postgraduate level and no longer in undergraduate.


Thank you member jae for pointing that out. "Nonsense" is spelt without a dash through.

KVReninem, I know there are many criticisms of the so-called "Melbourne model", but I do not agree that "no matter how lousy are you; you are still able to go with money".

The whole concept of the "Melbourne model" was never to "upgrade standards". It was a brave new system in following the US system in the Australian framework. The idea is that you produce more rounded students, so to speak, instead of out of high school and straight into something.

Also, they realised they were not getting the "best" students for particular courses. Yes, these fresh high school graduates had the TER cut-off, but it does not mean they were well suited for the degree. I make the cut for accounting, but I know I would be a very bad accounting student. The concept was to channel people into a general undergraduate degree, and (hopefully) after one is more mature, they can choose their career path with better understanding.

As I said, this is new, and it is hard to judge. In the same way it is impossible to determine the quality of all the private medical schools springing up like mushrooms after a rain in Malaysia, one cannot say the "Melbourne model" is good or bad, a success or a failure, before the first batch has even graduated.

If you don't like it, you don't have to participate in it. There are no lack of people queuing up after you.

That said, I have to admit, the greatest beneficiaries of the "Melbourne model" are the "typical" Asians, who go for the "soft" subjects like Economics, Business etc.

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Added on September 1, 2009, 9:44 pm

you will need to explain that bolded statement......how does locals get in 'by money'.........?

they don't need to pay any fees at all since 2/3 are commonwealth funded, and 1/3 through HECS-HELP?

hi there.

may i know how much does a mono laser printer cost in Aussie? would it be advisable to get it in Aussie or  import one from KL?

you are NOT making any sense.....your implication is that aussie students enter uni by paying money, not on merit........substantiate that...

i am surprise that you are in oz, and am not aware of the details of the education system there.......

i am going to transfer to Monash university, Clayton campus this coming February

Guys, my dad has this question and i cant really answer him. Unis in aussie is quite easy to get in, isnt it? That also means lousy students *sorry if i offend anyone* get in easily too. So how did they manage to gain a place in top 200 unis around the world? Does lower entry requirements mean lousier uni? Sorry if i offended anyone and i sincerely asking this question as i have no idea about it. 

You are not making any sense at all. How can that relate to local students paying their way into uni?

I would like to share my little story here 

In year 2000, I enrolled in a twinning Food Science program between Sedaya College (now UCSI) and Charles Sturt University. I completed my diploma in 2001, that time I was thinking why don't I try my luck so I went to apply for other uni. I got 4 offer letters from Melb U, RMIT, Deakin, and New Castle. I got some recommendation saying that I shouldn't choose any uni just because it's famous. By that time the Food Science in Melb U is relatively new, plus the tuition fee is almost double to what other uni offer. I choose Deakin Food Science & Nutrition in the end which ranks pretty good in Aussie from what I heard. Yeah, I had a great time studying there.
After my graduation, I came back to Malaysia and looking for job. Most company I went to interview had never heard of Deakin and then people around me started to say I should have went to Melb U instead. Nevertheless I got a nice job and I enjoyed my work. Deep in my heart I do feel a little regret in giving up Melb U.
I would say that even the "fame" or "rank' of a uni is not the only factor to be considered but in country like Malaysia, lots of people do take it seriously, not in working place but in social life. Especially when I say I went to uni in Melbourne, 99% of time people will say "Melb U ar? No? Deakin? What's that?" Not saying I feel inferior that I'm not graduated from Melb U but I do feel people here tagging graduates from those high ranked uni as superior class.
BUT, does graduate from high ranked uni means better performance in work place? I doubt it. I've seen many fresh graduates from famous uni doing sh!t job while a high schooler may do the job better.
My two cents 

I heard there were protests in Sydney and Melbourne by students to demand for concessionaire busfare.. Did anyone join in? =)

We need to stop the Aussie from seeing us as their cash cows!

i saw the protest yesterday noon at state library,melbourne
not really a protest but i think held by international students organization to appeal for concession fare for international students...
if success then will be great

I don't think it can be success lah

its only victoria and NSW it hink, in WA and Queensland there are concession bus/train/ferry fare
might work, after all the other states have it

I heard in 2007, NSW international students won against the NSW government in court to have the rights for concession but then, the NSW government brought the case to the higher court so I guess they're still fighting. Wont be over in 2-3 more years I  reckon

but in melbourne, the govern really earn big bucks in public transport..i think the fare for public transport should reduce even don have concession fare..after all we still a student..there are a lot of rich-er here but some still cant afford...

its the state that wants it, rudd deals with international stuff. the fight should be on the state court, federal laws can over-rule state, however this is purely a state issue

i wonder what the reason for the aud climb is.......the economy is still officially in recession.......

Earn AUD.

I don't think AUD is climbing. Its more like MYR is sinking.

University of Adelaide, Uni SA and UWA. You can always ask IDP. Did you apply directly to the unis or through agencies like IDP, AusEd?

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Added on September 9, 2009, 6:10 pm
Ello, you're just a student. Even with inflation coming, it doesn't affect you as greatly as it would have been if you're not earning AUD. Am I making sense? 

Nevermind. You didn't get my point.

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Added on September 10, 2009, 4:12 pm
Do some research.

This is what I got after google-ing. http://www.adelaide.edu.au/accommodation/uni/mattanya/

I reckon that the best way for you to find out is to e-mail them.

you have got confused between local income being able to cover cost of living.........and the difficulty of overseas parents/students faced with a high aud............

Ooo..thanks..i think i'll go to JBHifi then...ive seen the one along grattan st but didn go inside...i thought that was some anime toy shop =P
I'll check it out..thanks!
Yesterday was cold but its really warm today + warm wind.  
BTW...anyone heard about Robodance?

I am loving SPRINGGGGGGG. Makes me feel goooooood, for a bit. All assignments and tests due within these few weeks.

Anyone got any idea about Royal Melbourne Show? Is it worth to go? I check the website I know need to pay the entrance fee but not really sure what does it include. I only know that rides and amusements are not included in the entrance ticket and need to pay extra.

Royal Adelaide Show just ended yesterday and I guess it's Melbourne's turn now. Basically you get to see many exhibitions- from animals, plants, food and many other things. There are a few very nice performances at night and fireworks at 9pm that lasts for 10 minutes. That's the best part of the show!! It's definitely worth the money, at least to me. Although I've been there last year, I went again this year. I still find it worthwhile. If you haven't been there before, it's a must go. It's considered as a very big event among Aussies considering that it was on news every single day during the show.

We have received quite a number of reports from this thread that few of you actually make this thread like a normal Kopitiam chatting thread. Please refrain from doing so, remember this is Education Essentials and not Kopitiam. Once more if such discussion is repeated, those offenders will be punished accordingly.

KVReninem - Sharing useful info is fine, spamming with one-liners or posting things you know nothing about isn't.  This is not a chat room, and was never intended to be.  In fact by posting rubbish you are only making it more difficult for genuine prospective students to find useful information.  You were not mentioned by name (probably to save you from embarrassment) but you would be well advised that you are a prime and perhaps only offender of that in this thread.  There's the Kopitiam if you want to chat or post things you do not know anything about.

Finally, if you have an issue with a moderator/staff or the rules of the forums, take it up with me via PM instead of making personal insults against them and their roles on a forum.  We are volunteers who have day jobs or study.  You don't owe us anything neither do we owe you anything but safe to say I'd rather ban you forever then let you run your mouth insulting the moderators.

You have previously been warned.  This is your final warning.

what is the rate for australia currency now? i heard it's 3.0 now. is it true?    studying in australia is even more expensive than studying in singapore, right?