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English Clubs Arsenal Street Talk, Awaiting for Arshavin - ARS 0-0 WHU

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post Jan 12 2009, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(chronic_blade @ Jan 12 2009, 03:17 AM)

wheter or not we are going for tevez, we can still use him as a bargaining point.. im sure AW has options to choose from. Zenit will not bully us. I hope Arsenal will only raise to 12m and not more than 15m max as anymore would be daylight robbery. If arshavin in the end chooses to go to man city it only proves 1 thing.... that only arsenal and them were in it ... (not the 15-20 clubs as mentioned by the agent) and arshavin is motivated more by money than footballing ambition than he so states anyway.. just look at the table.. you can say all you want but robinho was also motivated by the $$ .. and the slight prospect of becoming the next chelsea, if that doesn't happen ? well he still has his cash and can fly to the brazil team practice in a chopper again.

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That's not what happened IINM.

Chelsea had been tapping Robinho, and Madrid were courting C.Ronaldo with the possibility of Robinho coming the otherway. He didnt like being the bargaining chip and treated so poorly by Madrid so he wanted to go to Chelsea, but Madrid simply refused to sell him to them just like how United would rather keep CR on the bench than sell him to Madrid.

Then City came knocking, and Robinhos only resort to escaping 'hell' was City! So off he went smile.gif Wudnt be fair to say that he was craving for the money now, cos im pretty sure Chelsea cudve paid his wages with a big smile at the end of every week!
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QUOTE(aboogee @ Jan 12 2009, 03:36 AM)
That's not what happened IINM.

Chelsea had been tapping Robinho, and Madrid were courting C.Ronaldo with the possibility of Robinho coming the otherway. He didnt like being the bargaining chip and treated so poorly by Madrid so he wanted to go to Chelsea, but Madrid simply refused to sell him to them just like how United would rather keep CR on the bench than sell him to Madrid.

Then City came knocking, and Robinhos only resort to escaping 'hell' was City! So off he went smile.gif Wudnt be fair to say that he was craving for the money now, cos im pretty sure Chelsea cudve paid his wages with a big smile at the end of every week!
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wut was i on i wonder ... hahahah =P


thanks for reminding me... that was spot on thumbup.gif

I humbly stand corrected! biggrin.gif


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post Jan 12 2009, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jan 12 2009, 02:06 AM)
Watching this game made me realize how much better Man Utd are at crossing the ball than us.

Our fullbacks can't cross for nuts and sadly our best crosser of the ball, RVP is a striker. Eboue, Denilson and Nasri can and has produced some decent crosses but also pretty much a hit and miss.
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their crosses are sure better than ours but Arsenal are always more of a 'passing' team.. Nasri's crosses might not be fantastic but so far he has produced some great defence splitting passes & taking over da CM post @ play-maker at 2nd half against bolton showing that now he's 2nd to Cesc.

i think it'd better AW does play him again as CM until Cesc is back since our Diaby absolutely crapz in passing while Ramsey is a bit trying to hard to impress.
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post Jan 12 2009, 10:10 AM

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In the end of the day, it's Robinho & RM the winners. Robinho for the $$$ & escape and RM for the fat $$$

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It's true that MU is good in crossing and playing in the wide - something AW may consider for the Plan B. From last match, we can see that MU did not hesitate to cross whenever there were chances and you can see there were at least 2 players (most of the time 3) in the box waiting for the crosses.

I'm not saying that we should emulate MU's style but it doesn't hurt if we can have a working Plan B.
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post Jan 12 2009, 02:20 PM

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MU can cross and put guys into the box because they got a good CM and CB to begin with. Heck, i'd take Carrick or Vidic or Anderson anyday.

Anyway, we shouldn't try to emulate other teams. We have our own identity and if that's a flaw to us, then so be it. live with it. Improve it.

I don't want Arsenal to be "MU wannabees". do u?
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post Jan 12 2009, 02:35 PM

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love arsenal 4 eva!!!wait for new great player in emirates!:)
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jan 12 2009, 01:54 AM)
Calm down calm down...

For this, I believe Arsenal fans have different opinions.

For me, I rather MU wins the title because they have been the ones who Arsenal has been challenging for the titles - so, we somehow acknowledge their qualities.
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althought Man U r our fierce rival, i stil pay my respect to Sir Alex, and their Fans due to their loyalty, and cant deny they have many great players. i always like to see man u beat chelsea and hope tat chelsea will go back to where they belong just like before Abramovich bought over.
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That's 3 games that we turned around right after Nasri was put in the middle. I hope AW persists with having Nasri take the Cesc role as long as he's out.

I see some similarities with our Captain. He's slightly built, but strong. He's got good vision. Not that much pace, but perhaps better dribbling than Cesc. The only thing missing is the discipline to track back.

If we can get Arshavin in on the left, I think that would be a very creative and fluid midfield indeed. Even better if we can get a DM, but its AW we're talking about...
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u r right, after made some changes on second half, arsenal started to play differently and slowly see the chances. But Ade stil not up to expectation in this match.. he seems like so lazy to chase for the ball
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jan 12 2009, 02:20 PM)
MU can cross and put guys into the box because they got a good CM and CB to begin with. Heck, i'd take Carrick or Vidic or Anderson anyday.

Anyway, we shouldn't try to emulate other teams. We have our own identity and if that's a flaw to us, then so be it. live with it. Improve it.

I don't want Arsenal to be "MU wannabees". do u?
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No no no... I do no mean that we emulate other teams. We have our own identity and our own way to play football. Unfortunately, recent seasons have shown that we have been limited to one route of football with little flexibility in tactic change.

Our biggest problem has been against bus-parking tactic. Our initial tactic has failed to overcome this... and I wonder why AW does not have a Plan B.
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love arsenal 4 eva!!!wait for new great player in emirates!:)
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QUOTE(rockalt1292 @ Jan 12 2009, 02:39 PM)
althought Man U r our fierce rival, i stil pay my respect to Sir Alex, and their Fans due to their loyalty, and cant deny they have many great players. i always like to see man u beat chelsea and hope tat chelsea will go back to where they belong just like before Abramovich bought over.
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Well said ! Seriously, I prefer the old Chelsea - it's just personal taste though sleep.gif

I still remember there was once Chelsea won the FA Cup with Zola still around... that team was a good team smile.gif

QUOTE(Zan81 @ Jan 12 2009, 02:48 PM)
That's 3 games that we turned around right after Nasri was put in the middle. I hope AW persists with having Nasri take the Cesc role as long as he's out.

I see some similarities with our Captain. He's slightly built, but strong. He's got good vision. Not that much pace, but perhaps better dribbling than Cesc. The only thing missing is the discipline to track back.

If we can get Arshavin in on the left, I think that would be a very creative and fluid midfield indeed. Even better if we can get a DM, but its AW we're talking about...
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True, Nasri being dubbed as "The New Zizou" for a reason. He's better off in the middle with more chance on the ball. I believe AW is trying to protect him from fierce challenges - that's why Nasri is playing as LW instead.

Furthermore, we do not have a good LW atm doh.gif
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new zizou? i thought is Yoann Gourcuff
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and if u guys noticed that Diaby made few mistakes by passing the ball to Bolton players, i wonder if he is color blind which dono how to differentiate red and white.. haha, just a joke btw, don take it too serious
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There must be something that Wenger sees in Diaby, that enables him to be fielded despite giving away countless number of balls. I think its his flashes of brilliance, other than that, i think some of us are frustrated at the way he goes forward and lose the ball unnecessarily.


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QUOTE(giotto @ Jan 12 2009, 04:41 PM)
There must be something that Wenger sees in Diaby, that enables him to be fielded despite giving away countless number of balls. I think its his flashes of brilliance, other than that, i think some of us are frustrated at the way he goes forward and lose the ball unnecessarily.
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To my sense, i think AW thinks diaby resemble to veira flex.gif
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QUOTE(kimhoong @ Jan 12 2009, 03:34 PM)
Our biggest problem has been against bus-parking tactic. Our initial tactic has failed to overcome this... and I wonder why AW does not have a Plan B.

If you want me to put your name in the member list, kindly PM me smile.gif
Well said ! Seriously, I prefer the old Chelsea - it's just personal taste though sleep.gif

I still remember there was once Chelsea won the FA Cup with Zola still around... that team was a good team smile.gif
True, Nasri being dubbed as "The New Zizou" for a reason. He's better off in the middle with more chance on the ball. I believe AW is trying to protect him from fierce challenges - that's why Nasri is playing as LW instead.

Furthermore, we do not have a good LW atm doh.gif
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I prefer the old Chelsea too, the one with Zola... Mourinho's Chelsea was absolutely boring yet effective and no one can argue with his achievements, while Scolari's Chelsea has lost its early flair and now struggling to keep their momentum.

The "Plan B" problem has been discussed to death now. We actually do have a plan B, i.e. crossing the ball for Ade but with Ade out of form and our fullbacks' crossing wayward we can't use that to good effect. Which is kind of a pity as last season we actually did it well.

MU's directness is something we could all learn about, instead of being too held up by our intricate little passing and overelaboration with the ball. Nevertheless, they too have suffered from lack of ideas when the opponents tend to be more defensive - The 1-0 victories against Stoke and Sunderland proved that they can be stifled as well, but being MU they never seem to get slammed by the media as much as we do with those kind of late wins.

As mentioned before, I'll gladly take 1-0 wins if it means 3 points for us every weekend. It ain't pretty, it's not vintage Arsenal, but with our current predicament any win is a blessing. Again, imagine what will happen if MU lost C.Ronaldo + Rooney + Berbatov + Anderson for long term; they too will suffer from the lack of fluidity and ideas and would probably be glad to scrap 1-0 wins as well.

Nasri should always play CM during Fabs' absence as he gets more freedom over there. And there's a reason why we're looking at Arshavin - which is to add more penetration and goals. Our midfield still hasn't been shipping in the goods like Bobby and Freddie used to do.

QUOTE(Meis @ Jan 12 2009, 04:33 PM)
new zizou? i thought is Yoann Gourcuff
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Nasri was being hailed as the new Zidane during his early days due to their similarity of play and their Marseille roots. But Nasri himself has always been cautious of the hype and distanced himself from the comparison.

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But he said: "I don't think it's fair to have that sort of pressure on a young player.

"There's only one Zidane, just as there was only one Platini.

"I'm me, a novice, who's trying to get better."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...89520-20640685/

As for Yoann Gourcuff... he's also another starlet whose talents were wasted at Milan and now he's starting to shine at Bordeaux. There has been some hoo hah about his performances as playmaker in the French NT lately - some saying that he's more effective than Nasri in the Zizou role. I don't care about the French NT as long as Domenech is in charge, and my bias puts him on Nasri's side biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sakaito @ Jan 12 2009, 02:20 PM)
MU can cross and put guys into the box because they got a good CM and CB to begin with. Heck, i'd take Carrick or Vidic or Anderson anyday.

Anyway, we shouldn't try to emulate other teams. We have our own identity and if that's a flaw to us, then so be it. live with it. Improve it.

I don't want Arsenal to be "MU wannabees". do u?
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Arsenal can never been like MU with the current squad, performances & team morale.
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QUOTE(throx @ Jan 12 2009, 01:44 AM)
Damn it.  mad.gif  MU is winning.......... if they win the remaining two matches on hand, they will be on top of the BPL. MU is always the last team I want to win the BPL. I rather Chelsea or Liverpool or even Spurs win it.
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heck, i rather mu win it rather than spurs! but i rather liverpool win rather than mu and chelsea. even aston villa can win so long mu and chelsea dont. i was hoping they draw yesterday.. damn sad they din. all the mu fans in college act like they won the title adi tongue.gif

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7 unbeaten + wholesale injuries = meltdown?

We’ve just had seven league games unbeaten, including three matches against teams above us in the league.

do you all realize that?? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(s|dE @ Jan 12 2009, 07:51 PM)
7 unbeaten + wholesale injuries = meltdown?

We’ve just had seven league games unbeaten, including three matches against teams above us in the league. 

do you all realize that?? biggrin.gif
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i think we do.. just not saying it so that we dont jinx anything.. touchwood biggrin.gif keep it up guys
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Arshaving cost 20 mil I hope he rather spend it smile.gif.
If he buys talented player like Arteta or Arshaving the titles is back !!

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