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all discussion about form 4 and form 5 studies are welcome
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Is the essay book that are published by SSMB publisher good?
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 3 2009, 06:44 PM) Is the essay book that are published by SSMB publisher good? hello..anyone here?   |
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I like the most compact book
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what mean by compact book?
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The small-small book wan.
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lol..I dont like them.Hehe.so, how old are you?
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 4 2009, 04:45 PM) lol..I dont like them.Hehe.so, how old are you? Form 4 tomorrow.Hehe. |
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wow..so any questions you can ask it here
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Gosh, mod cleaned everything in this V11?
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Hey everyone! Im nt in f4 or f5 anymore. Currently waiting for my SPM results. And...now im selling my reference books. Anyone interested??
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no one.don make an advertisment here
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08 SPM student here.....no comment about coming results day.
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QUOTE(milkjean @ Jan 5 2009, 09:50 AM) the thoughts of spm results freaking me out. same here. i thought of it EVERYDAY  |
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Think of it every day and you end up torturing yourselves.
Relax and stay calm. Just embrace yourselves when you have your results back. |
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vick5821 : I was just asking. No advertising. -.-
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Hi. fangir, kinda interested on what are you selling. I hope you could post a [WTS] topic under Garage Sales. I will check from you soon. Btw, what stream are you in?
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SPM IS OVER THAT MEANS IS THE BEGINING OF FREEDOM
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QUOTE(IamjustME @ Jan 5 2009, 05:26 PM) Think of it every day and you end up torturing yourselves. teach mi how u do it? 2 months to go. Relax and stay calm. Just embrace yourselves when you have your results back. |
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freedom doesnt make me feel good..life after SPM is harder that we have to face the outside world..
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Waiting my results, wat's the actual day ?
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10~18 march
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what's the hardest chapter for chemistyr form 5? and also physics form 5
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 7 2009, 02:08 PM) what's the hardest chapter for chemistyr form 5? and also physics form 5 I have two chemistry questions hereQ1 How much is the mass of one molecule of water H20.? Q2 A sample of water contains 1.8 X 10^22 hydrogen atoms. How many moles of water is in the sample? Pls help. I would aprreciate your help  |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 7 2009, 02:08 PM) what's the hardest chapter for chemistyr form 5? and also physics form 5 Probably Carbon Compound(not really hard, juz too many stuffs) and Redox. For Physics, it is Electronic. |
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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Jan 7 2009, 06:33 PM) Probably Carbon Compound(not really hard, juz too many stuffs) and Redox. For Physics, it is Electronic. need to memorise a lot of things is it? Redox is it same as electrolysis? |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 7 2009, 07:03 PM) need to memorise a lot of things is it? Redox is it same as electrolysis? study first then you know lah ... they are related. after you study redox, you probably can understand electrolysis better.this year, I might not teach Form 4 & 5, so ... good luck.  |
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OMG.but you can teach me also
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Oh god....i love this thread.
Any 2009 SPM takers? So far I spotted vick and ilovecookies92 only. |
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soalan tatabahsa
Kesalahan ejaan dan imbuhan Pengusaha gerai satay itu telah memperisteri anak lelakinya dengan anak pengusaha Restoran Azizah. Kesalahan kata atau istilah i) Rumah mangsa ribut ganas pada minggu lepas telah mereka bina semula ii)Hakim mengenakan hukuman penjara selama lima tahun terhadap banduan itu di atas kesalahannya memukul Wak Jani Thanks |
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Kesalahan ejaan dan imbuhan
Pengusaha gerai satay itu telah memperisterikan anak lelakinya dengan anak pengusaha Restoran Azizah. Kesalahan kata atau istilah i) Rumah mangsa ribut taufan pada minggu lepas telah mereka bina semula ii)Hakim menjatuhkan hukuman penjara selama lima tahun terhadap banduan itu di atas kesalahannya memukul Wak Jani i hope it help  |
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just one kesalahan in 1 sentence?
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hey ppl, which subjects u Hate the most??
as for mi, i HATE chemistry. i was olways barely passed on chem.  Added on January 7, 2009, 8:12 pm QUOTE(milkjean @ Jan 7 2009, 08:10 PM) hey ppl, which subjects u Hate the most?? i thought supoose to be KE atas, not DI atas? as for mi, i HATE chemistry. i was olways barely passed on chem. This post has been edited by milkjean: Jan 7 2009, 08:12 PM |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 7 2009, 08:08 PM) just one kesalahan in 1 sentence? I also dunno.Just helping you with my best Sorry. |
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satay - sate
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erm, taufan or kencang?
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 7 2009, 08:39 PM) erm, taufan or kencang? Guess, it's taufan. Kencang doesn't sound right. Kencang is used on "angin". |
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QUOTE(milkjean @ Jan 7 2009, 08:10 PM) hey ppl, which subjects u Hate the most?? Dun worry about chemistry, put in some hardwork and it will turned to be the easiest subject among the pure sciences. I failed for every chemistry examinations in Form 4, the worst score is 17% but I managed to get 49/50 for my SPM 2008 Chemistry Paper 1.as for mi, i HATE chemistry. i was olways barely passed on chem. Added on January 7, 2009, 8:12 pm i thought supoose to be KE atas, not DI atas? |
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Let's talk about form 5 chemistry chapter one.Rate of reaction. Anyone willing to teach? or learning through some examples
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haha, i have done my SPM. 2008's candidates.
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form 4 chemistry is harder than form 5
but rates of reaction is the easiest of f5 chapters, take note of the four factors affecting the speed of reaction as well as explanation for the increase/decrease of rate of reaction omigosh, i still got it!! |
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vick..u're too hyperactive..
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ilovecookies92 I will be posting them up soon. maybe by next week or next 2 weeks. =D
hey there...im back =) Well, yea..after SPM life is harder than before. T.T Im goin to miss all those days in high school. lol. Are you guys studyin in college now or waiting for the results? Some of my frens were already in college and some were still working. Are you guys working? |
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QUOTE(fangir.LING @ Jan 8 2009, 03:22 AM) ilovecookies92 I will be posting them up soon. maybe by next week or next 2 weeks. =D i am waiting for result. so, using this free time to gain some work experience as well as get my driving license. is better to make use of this precious time instead of doing nothing at home. as for my further studies. well, i got the bloody N.s. is 2nd batch. hey there...im back =) Well, yea..after SPM life is harder than before. T.T Im goin to miss all those days in high school. lol. Are you guys studyin in college now or waiting for the results? Some of my frens were already in college and some were still working. Are you guys working?  so, i need to wait for july intake.Added on January 8, 2009, 10:01 amahkaey, now. i would like to share the idea how i remember the different between base quantity and derived quantity. u may find this in form4 chapter1 physic. base quantity- quantities that cannot be defined in terms of other quantities. * for instance: length, mass, time, temperature, electric current. derived quantity- physics quantities derived from the base quantities through multiplication, division or both. * for instance: area, volume, force, velocity etc. note, there is only 5 type of base quantity. length, mass, time, temperature, electric current. memorise this 5 where as the other are ALL derived quantity. so now, how to memorise? Lenght = Lazy Mass = Man Time = Take Temperature = Things Electric current = Easy. thus, based quatity = Lazy man take things easy!  hope this will help. correct me if i am wrong.This post has been edited by milkjean: Jan 8 2009, 02:12 PM |
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Im in college liao haha, at first i really thought there was not muchh difference with secondary school since have to wake up as early as them also (for the train) but i should get used to it soon
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I don understand rate of reaction at a given time.How to calculate?
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 8 2009, 02:11 PM) I don understand rate of reaction at a given time.How to calculate? haha, i am sucx in chemistry. no idea . btw, u are now f4 or f5? |
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QUOTE(ViLenG @ Jan 8 2009, 12:11 AM) vick..u're too hyperactive.. lol. why did you say so? |
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any spm 08 got call from mara? they call me to go to subang jaya... i didn't hear exactly where the place is though. >_<
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i'm not sure where to go yet, but i think they called me for biasiswa stuff or something like that... they mentioned 'uk', 'ikitiraf' and all. the woman's voice was too slow, i couldn't hear a thing.
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wow, dats cool. u got offered by them man.
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 8 2009, 02:11 PM) I don understand rate of reaction at a given time.How to calculate? Any change on the solution over the period of the reaction.This post has been edited by onimusha_m16: Jan 8 2009, 07:12 PM |
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Thread reported.
This thread seems to be a failure since everyone are spamming around. Same goes to the PMR thread previously, you guys are not talking bout what your topic sounds. :WTF!: |
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QUOTE(KingKongStudy @ Jan 8 2009, 06:06 PM) i'm not sure where to go yet, but i think they called me for biasiswa stuff or something like that... they mentioned 'uk', 'ikitiraf' and all. the woman's voice was too slow, i couldn't hear a thing. then go to the college and ask properly |
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Hi people,
Just drop by to ask something. Is Sivik examinable for SPM this year?  My school told us that this year there will be Sivik for SPM. EST will be optional. Is this really true??!  This post has been edited by ReaperOfSoul: Jan 8 2009, 07:35 PM |
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EST is optional but my school force us to take.OMG. sivik? i dont know
Added on January 8, 2009, 9:35 pm QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 8 2009, 07:42 PM) EST is optional but my school force us to take.OMG. sivik? i dont know what is mean by 1001 2 ?This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 8 2009, 09:45 PM |
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addendum:
One final verbal warning, before I give out warning for kopitiam style posting and move this thread to kopitiam. To those that just has finished your spm, create a thread at kopitiam and chat there regarding your feeling etc etc. Leave this thread for pure education related discussion of SPM, please. |
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My ex-sivik teacher said there might be SPM Civics for this year. So far, I got a reply from the LPM and they said there is no such thing till further notice. While my current sivik teacher (ex-sivik teacher's wife) said, no Civics for SPM. Still unsure. >.>
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 7 2009, 07:49 PM) soalan tatabahsa My apologize to Vick for replying late. Been busy for college stuff.Kesalahan ejaan dan imbuhan Pengusaha gerai satay itu telah memperisteri anak lelakinya dengan anak pengusaha Restoran Azizah. Kesalahan kata atau istilah i) Rumah mangsa ribut ganas pada minggu lepas telah mereka bina semula ii)Hakim mengenakan hukuman penjara selama lima tahun terhadap banduan itu di atas kesalahannya memukul Wak Jani Thanks Btw, the first will be memperisterikan. 2nd, dibina oleh mereka. 3rd, cancel di. |
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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Jan 9 2009, 06:11 PM) My apologize to Vick for replying late. Been busy for college stuff. hey guys, help me this chem ques on rate of reaction. I dont know how to campare la the value. the factor affecting the rate of reaction damn hardBtw, the first will be memperisterikan. 2nd, dibina oleh mereka. 3rd, cancel di. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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the answer is D because copper(II) sulphate is a catalyst that will increase the rate of reaction therefore the reaction between copper(II) sulphate and zinc which is curve 2 will complete faster than curve 1 . Did you realise that volume of gas released in curve 2 is half of the curve 1 because the number of moles in curve 2 is half 30X0.5=15
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How did you know is half? from where?
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QUOTE(samsung1234 @ Jan 9 2009, 07:33 PM) the answer is D because copper(II) sulphate is a catalyst that will increase the rate of reaction therefore the reaction between copper(II) sulphate and zinc which is curve 2 will complete faster than curve 1 . Did you realise that volume of gas released in curve 2 is half of the curve 1 because the number of moles in curve 2 is half 30X0.5=15 QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 9 2009, 07:44 PM) How did you know is half? from where? Look at the concentration of copper(II)sulphate solution carefully. |
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To calculate mol from solution; formula is:
(MV) / 1000 Curve I (30 x 1) / 1000 = 0.03 mol Curve II A. (60 x 1) / 1000 = 0.06 mol It has more mol. Technically, the graph of this solution should be higher than Curve I because it'll produce higher volume of gas B. (30 x 1) / 1000 = 0.03 mol Same amount mol. Curve II should intersect Curve I if this is the answer. But that's not the case. So this is not the answer. C. (30 x 2) / 1000 = 0.06 mol Same explanation as A. D. (30 x 0.5) / 1000 = 0.015 mol Amount of mol is decreased by half compared to Curve I, therefore volume of gas produced will also decrease by half. Copper (II) sulphate is a catalyst for reaction between zinc and hydrochloric acid, that is why it is faster for the reaction to be completed compared to curve I. The answer is D. |
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ME past year spm candidate, now all forgot how to do le.........
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 7 2009, 07:49 PM) soalan tatabahsa Pengusaha gerai sate itu telah memperisterikan anak lelakinya dengan anak pengusaha Restoran Azizah.Kesalahan ejaan dan imbuhan Pengusaha gerai satay itu telah memperisteri anak lelakinya dengan anak pengusaha Restoran Azizah. Kesalahan kata atau istilah i) Rumah mangsa ribut ganas pada minggu lepas telah mereka bina semula ii)Hakim mengenakan hukuman penjara selama lima tahun terhadap banduan itu di atas kesalahannya memukul Wak Jani Thanks Rumah mangsa ribut kencang pada minggu lepas telah dibina semula oleh mereka. Hakim menjatuhkan hukuman penjara selama lima tahun terhadap banduan itu atas kesalahannya memukul Wak Jani. This post has been edited by IamjustME: Jan 9 2009, 08:26 PM |
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ohoh.I think I need to master all the factor that affecting rate of reaction indetail first
Added on January 9, 2009, 10:09 pmohoh.I think I need to master all the factor that affecting rate of reaction in detail first Added on January 9, 2009, 10:38 pmThe same mass of powdered magnesium carbonate is added to each of the following solutions. In which solution is the shortest time taken for the magnesium carbonate to dissolve completely? A. 50 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 nitric acid B.50 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 HCl C. 50 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 sulphuiric acid D. 100 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 ethanoic acid how? please teach me This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 9 2009, 10:38 PM |
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me too..I used to luv chemistry..after 1 month,totally forgot everything about it.
Added on January 9, 2009, 10:46 pmi think the answer is C..because H2SO4(sulphuric acid) has 2 hydrogen ions..therefore,it has double rate of tendency to react with magnesium carbonate.. hehe..sorry i give you ajaran sesat..I already forgot them.. This post has been edited by rainyrin: Jan 9 2009, 10:46 PM |
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If mol same, volume of gas produced same?
Added on January 10, 2009, 12:49 pmmol same mean mass of the substance same la? This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 10 2009, 12:49 PM |
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QUOTE(rainyrin @ Jan 9 2009, 10:41 PM) me too..I used to luv chemistry..after 1 month,totally forgot everything about it. How to construt an ionic equation from the chemical equation? please teach me Added on January 9, 2009, 10:46 pmi think the answer is C..because H2SO4(sulphuric acid) has 2 hydrogen ions..therefore,it has double rate of tendency to react with magnesium carbonate.. hehe..sorry i give you ajaran sesat..I already forgot them.. |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 10 2009, 01:50 PM) How to construt an ionic equation from the chemical equation? please teach me Please teach em this 2 questions too..please..pro pls Attached thumbnail(s) 
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The same mass of powdered magnesium carbonate is added to each of the following solutions. In which solution is the shortest time taken for the magnesium carbonate to dissolve completely?
A. 50 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 nitric acid B.50 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 HCl C. 50 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 sulphuiric acid D. 100 cm^3 of 1.0 mol dm^-3 ethanoic acid Is the answer C? More H. |
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Jan 10 2009, 08:39 PM
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ya..C any explanation?
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Jan 10 2009, 08:40 PM
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Ok, more hydrogen. More acidic. Ionises more completely to form hydrogen ions. I hope I got it correct. It's been months since I finished my SPM!
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Jan 10 2009, 08:42 PM
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Hydrogen ion is the ion that react with other substances?
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Jan 10 2009, 08:44 PM
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Yes, my friend. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, is that form 4 or form 5 topic?
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Jan 10 2009, 08:46 PM
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Form 4 ..salt chapter
Added on January 10, 2009, 8:46 pmHow about the other 2 questions? This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 10 2009, 08:46 PM |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 10 2009, 08:15 PM) Please teach em this 2 questions too..please..pro pls Q11:I, II and III only. Chloride ions will form insoluble precipitation with silver ions at ratio 1:1, so there would be excess of free silver ions in the solution Q15: B Zn(s) + 2HCl(aq) ---> ZnCl2 + H2 1 mole of Zn react with 2 moles of HCl to give 1 mole of hydrogen gas. 1.3g of zinc is equal to 0.02 mole of zinc (1.3/65=0.02) hence, 0.02 mole of Zn react with 0.04 mole of HCl to give 0.02 mole of hydrogen gas. since, 1 mole of gas occupies24dm3 therefore, 0.02 mole of gas occupies 0.48dm3 |
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Jan 10 2009, 09:10 PM
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lol..for Q15, i have constructed a wrong equation.I still dont understand Q11
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Jan 10 2009, 09:14 PM
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11.
In this case, NaCl solution has excess substances of Na+ and Cl-. After the reaction, NaNO3 solution is produced. The remaining solution contains Na+, Cl- and NO3-. 15. Zn + 2HCl --> ZnCl2 + H2 According to reaction, a mole of Zn produces a mole of H2. number of moles of Zn = number of moles of H2 1.3/65 = x/24 x = 0.48dm3 This post has been edited by IamjustME: Jan 10 2009, 09:14 PM |
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Jan 10 2009, 09:17 PM
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No Cl-
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Jan 10 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 10 2009, 09:10 PM) lol..for Q15, i have constructed a wrong equation.I still dont understand Q11 Amount of:Na+ - 20cm3 x 0.5mol dm-3 = 0.01mol Cl- - 20cm3 x 0.5mol dm-3 = 0.01mol Ag+ - 20cm3 x 1.0mol dm-3 = 0.02mol NO3+ - 20cm3 x 1.0mol dm-3 = 0.02mol As we know, Ag+(aq) + Cl-(aq) ---> AgCl(s) 1 mole of silver ions will react with 1 mole of chloride ion to form 1 mole of precipitation of silver chloride. Hence, In the solution, there are excess of silver ion in the solution Ag: 0.02mol Cl: 0.01mol amount of Ag used to form precipitation: 0.01mol, so 0.02mol(initial) - 0.01mol(used to form precipitation) = 0.01mol(left) so, there are still 0.01 mol of silver ions in the solution. |
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Jan 10 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 10 2009, 09:17 PM) No Cl- Sorry, I'm not feeling well today. This post has been edited by IamjustME: Jan 10 2009, 09:21 PM |
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Jan 10 2009, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(IamjustME @ Jan 10 2009, 09:14 PM) 11. dude, wrong answer...In this case, NaCl solution has excess substances of Na+ and Cl-. After the reaction, NaNO3 solution is produced. The remaining solution contains Na+, Cl- and NO3-. you will get AgCl precipitation. sodium nitrate is soluble salt, so it will exist as free ions in the solution |
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Jan 10 2009, 09:21 PM
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haha..thanks jiaxun.I have understood
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Jan 10 2009, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 10 2009, 09:21 PM) haha..thanks jiaxun.I have understood glad to hear that. any question regarding chemistry can PM me the link to your question and i will try to answer |
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Jan 10 2009, 09:47 PM
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tmr I will have question somemore.tonight I tsudy first on rate of reaction
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Jan 10 2009, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Jan 10 2009, 09:09 PM) Q11: erm, what is the hardest chapter in form 5 syllabus?I, II and III only. Chloride ions will form insoluble precipitation with silver ions at ratio 1:1, so there would be excess of free silver ions in the solution Q15: B Zn(s) + 2HCl(aq) ---> ZnCl2 + H2 1 mole of Zn react with 2 moles of HCl to give 1 mole of hydrogen gas. 1.3g of zinc is equal to 0.02 mole of zinc (1.3/65=0.02) hence, 0.02 mole of Zn react with 0.04 mole of HCl to give 0.02 mole of hydrogen gas. since, 1 mole of gas occupies24dm3 therefore, 0.02 mole of gas occupies 0.48dm3 |
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Jan 10 2009, 11:08 PM
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shud i change to account stream ?
I can master account subjects really well although i more interested in science stream and I was in science class,but when i see the subject my kepala mabok kepayang edi |
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Jan 11 2009, 12:28 AM
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You can still consider studying in Science stream taking up Accounts subject.
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Jan 11 2009, 02:56 AM
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it really angers me really
the preparation we do for spm is really not up to par with the actual spm paper i believe many will agree when they first took last year's chemistry paper |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:18 AM
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it differs for each schools here, my friend and as for me, i totally disagree with you. my school is one of the best here in sarawak and the preparations the teachers gave us are actually above the par. that is why most of the students of our school find it quite easy. besides, it depends on the students themselves to do the preparations. you should have needed to expect for the worse and did more preparations.
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Jan 11 2009, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(ej91 @ Jan 11 2009, 02:56 AM) it really angers me really Not only last year; every year's Chemistry paper.the preparation we do for spm is really not up to par with the actual spm paper i believe many will agree when they first took last year's chemistry paper |
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Jan 11 2009, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(ej91 @ Jan 11 2009, 02:56 AM) it really angers me really Nope ... that wasn't the case of my students. They all happy to thank me for the prediction the preparation we do for spm is really not up to par with the actual spm paper i believe many will agree when they first took last year's chemistry paper  |
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Jan 11 2009, 06:23 PM
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can anyone tell me the formation of sperm and ovum? I dont understand that
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Jan 11 2009, 07:58 PM
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it should be very easy using the biology textbook
the diagram helps alot |
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Jan 11 2009, 08:27 PM
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someone refresh me back on the meiosis and mitosis again please!
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Jan 11 2009, 08:31 PM
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mitosis is cell division for normal cells to promote growth
meiosis is mainly cell division fo cells in reproductive organs |
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Jan 11 2009, 08:32 PM
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mitosis is the cell division that produce daughther cell with the same number of chromosome as the parent cell
Meiosis is the cell division that produce daughther cells which have half the number of chromosomes as in parents cell Added on January 11, 2009, 8:37 pmcan anyone explain for me the 'energy profile diagram for a reaction'? I don understand la This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 11 2009, 08:37 PM |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:11 PM
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sorry im late. what's endothermic reaction and exothermic reaction? ok just picture it.
endothermic reaction = inhaling. the graph go upwards because you are inhaling. and the temperature decreases because you're inhaling air into your body. exothermic reaction = exhaling. the graph goes downwards because you're exhaling air. the temperature increasing because warm air is exhaled out from your body that is how i remember them. hope you understand. haha. |
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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Jan 11 2009, 09:11 PM) sorry im late. what's endothermic reaction and exothermic reaction? ok just picture it. are u a f5 this year? so fast reach der edi wan =,= wat school u guys frm anyway?endothermic reaction = inhaling. the graph go upwards because you are inhaling. and the temperature decreases because you're inhaling air into your body. exothermic reaction = exhaling. the graph goes downwards because you're exhaling air. the temperature increasing because warm air is exhaled out from your body that is how i remember them. hope you understand. haha. |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:22 PM
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I am from SMJK NAN HWA
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Jan 11 2009, 09:22 PM
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LOL.. Early preparations is better than last minute preparations, my friend. I have just finished my SPM last year. And my friend, Vick here is only form 5 this year but he has almost gone through all the Form 5 syllabus earlier than all the form 5 students here.
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Jan 11 2009, 09:23 PM
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not all la..add math gone through 4 chapters only
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Jan 11 2009, 09:25 PM
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wow how is that possible? intensive science course during hols? |
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Jan 11 2009, 09:31 PM
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vick is darn hardworking than the other students. he loves physics and chemistry. and if you guys happen to add him in msn, you'll see his personal messages are all the english idioms and proverbs.. sometimes when i'm busy playing games, he would buzz me up and asks me lots of questions. haha. i think he's currently on a secret intensive study program to be the best SPM scorer of year 2009!
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Jan 11 2009, 09:35 PM
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wow impressive. must admire that determination and discipline. if only i could loiter less in LYN...
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Jan 11 2009, 09:37 PM
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I wont be top scorer lah.I not the top 1 in school
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Jan 11 2009, 09:37 PM
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you should, C-Note. anyway, how old are you now may i ask?
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Jan 11 2009, 09:40 PM
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another fellow SPM-er. i would venture to believe dat ur doing STPM, no?
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Jan 11 2009, 09:45 PM
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nope. im going for my A Levels soon at TARC, most probably.
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Jan 11 2009, 09:50 PM
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oic. waiting for results eh? wat subjs u plan to take for it?
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Jan 11 2009, 09:57 PM
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i'm planning to take physics, chemistry, maths and further maths for my A levels. A.maths is seriously an important subject you have to master properly during seconday school.
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Jan 11 2009, 10:06 PM
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no one teach me here like last year. damn sad
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Jan 11 2009, 10:09 PM
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it's still not too late to catch up now. focus more on integration, differentiation, graph, circles.. in my spm paper, a lot of such questions came out.
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Jan 11 2009, 10:15 PM
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I have learnt integration during holidays
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Jan 11 2009, 10:20 PM
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o.O
Panda12, you goin TARC also? Same here. XD |
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Jan 11 2009, 10:27 PM
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hi, heartz91. may intake?
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Jan 11 2009, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Jan 11 2009, 10:27 PM) hi, heartz91. may intake? Yeah. May intake. XD |
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Jan 12 2009, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Jan 11 2009, 09:57 PM) i'm planning to take physics, chemistry, maths and further maths for my A levels. A.maths is seriously an important subject you have to master properly during seconday school. Are you serious?It is freaking tough, especially vectors, and the whole Statistics 3. This post has been edited by IamjustME: Jan 12 2009, 12:29 PM |
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Jan 12 2009, 01:16 PM
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vectors is still ok. for me, i think the circles, integration, differentiation and statistic is quite q problem. anyway, just do lots of constant exercises.
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Jan 12 2009, 02:33 PM
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And protip:
Approximation is useful in further maths. This post has been edited by IamjustME: Jan 12 2009, 02:34 PM |
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Jan 12 2009, 04:11 PM
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approximation? tell me more please.
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Jan 12 2009, 04:33 PM
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College after September for me
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Jan 12 2009, 06:02 PM
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anyone can explain the spematogenis and oogenis for me?
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Jan 12 2009, 06:31 PM
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Spermatogenesis and oogenesis start from primodial germ cell.
Spermatogenesis occurs in the walls of seminiferous tubules. 
The production of eggs is called oogenesis. It takes place in the ovaries and begins before birth. The outer layer of the ovary (the germinal epithelium) produces primary oocytes. It also produces follicle cells that congregate around the oocytes, forming a structure called the primary follicle. By the time a baby girl is born, the primary oocytes in the primary follicles have started the first meiotic division but the process halts at the first stage (prophase I). After puberty one of these develops each month. It completes meiosis I to form a secondary oocyte and first polar body (the latter of which will eventually disintegrate). The follicle cells around it proliferate to form a wall many cells thick called the theca. Fluid collects inside the structure to form a fluid-filled cavity. The whole structure is called a Graafian follicle. At a time controlled by hormones the secondary oocyte is released from the Graafian follicle and it leaves the ovary - a process called ovulation. The secondary oocyte with some surrounding follicle cells leaves the ovary and enters one of the oviducts. What is left behind on the surface of the ovary turns into a structure called the corpus luteum. 
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Jan 12 2009, 06:47 PM
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why just one spematogonia and oogonia choosen? not all the 4?
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Jan 12 2009, 06:53 PM
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There is no room to draw all 4 processes.
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Jan 12 2009, 07:17 PM
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Oh..in our syllabus just need to know the spematogenesis produce 4 spem cells and oogenesis one ovum?
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Jan 12 2009, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 12 2009, 07:17 PM) Oh..in our syllabus just need to know the spematogenesis produce 4 spem cells and oogenesis one ovum? Yup.And, the singular forms of spermatogonia and oogonia are spermatogonium and oogonium. This post has been edited by IamjustME: Jan 12 2009, 08:33 PM |
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Jan 12 2009, 08:42 PM
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okay.clear.thanks..now learning about hormons
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Jan 12 2009, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 12 2009, 08:42 PM) okay.clear.thanks..now learning about hormons THE HELL?You have just started form 5 and you are learning reproduction? God bless this kid.This post has been edited by IamjustME: Jan 12 2009, 09:15 PM |
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Jan 12 2009, 09:19 PM
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school start teaching this chapter first la
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Jan 12 2009, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(reuben_1991 @ Jan 12 2009, 04:33 PM) College after September for me you can choose not to go NS. =/ . NS 3rd batch. |
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Jan 12 2009, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 12 2009, 10:19 PM) school start teaching this chapter first la vick is a smart student. FYI, he has gone through all the form 5 subjects during the holidays. |
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Jan 12 2009, 10:45 PM
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not all la..just form 5 4 chapter
Added on January 14, 2009, 5:07 pm QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 12 2009, 10:45 PM) not all la..just form 5 4 chapter anyone can tell me in a simple way what's meant by positive feedback and negative feedback?This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 14 2009, 05:07 PM |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 12 2009, 10:45 PM) not all la..just form 5 4 chapter give me exaple too pls..urgentAdded on January 14, 2009, 5:07 pm anyone can tell me in a simple way what's meant by positive feedback and negative feedback? |
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My college starts in August, since I have things to settle in January and May. Can't wait to start!
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negative feedback is like when our body get too hot, our body system naturally will get it back to our optimum temperature...any changes in our body system like glucose concentrationg, body temperature, carbon dioxide concentration will cause our body to react n bring it back to optimum level..this is negative feedback..u no need to noe about positive feedback but it is the opposite of negative feedback....
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Jan 14 2009, 08:11 PM
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can explain the whole menstruation in term of the hormone? from starting to final.
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Jan 14 2009, 09:58 PM
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Didnt pay attention in class or what? dont have some sort of revision book and text book? i'm sure if you combine both of them and write it out in essay form, you could get your answer there
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Jan 14 2009, 10:20 PM
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I have books.But I don understand
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Jan 15 2009, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 14 2009, 09:11 PM) can explain the whole menstruation in term of the hormone? from starting to final. it's in the book. go refer success biology reference book. it's all inside there, my friend. |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:30 AM
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hey Panda12, been catching up with alot of hw lately..
oh i see dat u take up phy chem maths and further maths? wat do u plan to do may i ask? |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:46 AM
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oh hi. im planning to take up physics, chem, maths for my A Levels at TARC. sent my application form 2 days ago. just waiting for their results now. thanks for asking anyway.
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private tuition anyone?
i can teach all the science subjects and add math and also chinese? i stay at puchong Jaya Added on January 16, 2009, 6:25 pmTS why the thread so quite geh? This post has been edited by yuktsi14: Jan 16 2009, 06:25 PM |
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any Form 4 students here? What's the exercise book for Modern Math and English u guys using? From which publisher?
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Jan 17 2009, 11:10 AM
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urgh modern maaths nid exercise wan meh? o.0
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Jan 17 2009, 12:48 PM
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of course, my friend. everything needs practice. practice makes perfect.
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 14 2009, 05:08 PM) give me exaple too pls..urgent hei my friend, check out a book called BIOLOGY!!dont be lazy.. btw, negative feedback is your body try to turn itself back to normal..eg..when its hot, u sweat to cool your body positive feedback--turn itself not back to its normal state..turn to an abnormal state...eg..childbirth...body temp drop (not normal), or.... fever...your body heated up to make the defence mechanism to be more active,thus killing the pathogen(bacteria,virus....).. hope u understand... Added on January 17, 2009, 1:48 pm QUOTE(C-Note @ Jan 17 2009, 11:10 AM) urgh modern maaths nid exercise wan meh? o.0 if you are good...den no nid le...juz do wad the teacher tell you to do cukup d...reali...dont waste too much time on it...This post has been edited by chokchunynh: Jan 17 2009, 01:48 PM |
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Jan 17 2009, 11:10 AM) urgh modern maaths nid exercise wan meh? o.0 Nobody is good the first time they do something at it unless they are talented at it. Maths require practice. The reason if your results are better than the person next to you is because you practice more. So now you are going to tell everyone no need to do exercise but you yourself did maths exercises during your lower form years? |
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Jan 17 2009, 01:59 PM) Nobody is good the first time they do something at it unless they are talented at it. Maths require practice. The reason if your results are better than the person next to you is because you practice more. So now you are going to tell everyone no need to do exercise but you yourself did maths exercises during your lower form years? agreed. wahahaeven though ur maths is already pro enuf but nth is perfect. dun tel me u get 100 marks for every test u sat. there must be mistakes. in order to correct mistakes , what to do?? exercises la,  |
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any of u here are waiting for your SPM results??
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Jan 17 2009, 06:07 PM
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many here waiting.Pls don talk all this. pls talk abt rate of reaction.how to answer the type of questions like camparing the rate of reaction
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QUOTE(chokchunynh @ Jan 17 2009, 05:29 PM) any of u here are waiting for your SPM results?? me |
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Jan 17 2009, 06:47 PM
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(-2)n-1 = 212
Then how? |
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Jan 17 2009, 07:00 PM
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what about rate of reactions vick? my msn down
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Jan 17 2009, 07:04 PM
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quite ok.just some explanation dono how to explain like if call us to compare the rate of reaction and give reason for your answer.kaka, how to do my add math ques posted?
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Jan 17 2009, 07:06 PM
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use log base 2
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Jan 17 2009, 07:07 PM
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log base 2?
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Jan 17 2009, 07:07 PM
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like work_tgr says.. log2
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Jan 17 2009, 07:08 PM
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how? dont get it
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Jan 17 2009, 07:14 PM
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ur calculator can log base 2 or not? mine cant..
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Jan 17 2009, 07:17 PM
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mine also cant
Added on January 17, 2009, 7:24 pmyea.my teacher praised me.She don believe that the essay was written by me when she gave back the essay books.She asked me whther the essay I wrote it on my own or what.lol This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 17 2009, 07:24 PM |
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Jan 17 2009, 07:25 PM
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what is the answer for n ?
with that value of n, can you get the answer of 2^12 ? This post has been edited by work_tgr: Jan 17 2009, 07:26 PM |
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Jan 17 2009, 07:25 PM
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which essay? and did u ever read my essay in the end??
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Jan 17 2009, 07:27 PM
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Wrong
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Jan 17 2009, 07:29 PM
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for that (-2)^(n-1) = 2^12 question, it is obvious that n-1 must b equal to 12 or else it wont b equal....it does not matter whether it got a negative side or not cos if the power is an even number, it will b positive...u can try out using calculator..the answer for n is 13
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Jan 17 2009, 07:30 PM
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omg, i did not realise the negative thing.. sorry sorry.. tan is right
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Jan 17 2009, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(chokchunynh @ Jan 17 2009, 05:29 PM) any of u here are waiting for your SPM results?? Proud to say Yes. |
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Jan 17 2009, 10:09 PM
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i duno la...for me i only practice addmaths daily and for maths...its always careless mistakes in exams. besides, if i had the spare time i would spend it on my sciences instead...so yeah
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Jan 17 2009, 10:09 PM) i duno la...for me i only practice addmaths daily and for maths...its always careless mistakes in exams. besides, if i had the spare time i would spend it on my sciences instead...so yeah You are so hardworking since I am intending to drop stupid Add Math and some idiot science subjects in SPM. These subjects are quite bored and love to ask some stupid questions. I had lost my hope in these subjects |
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QUOTE(christellia @ Jan 19 2009, 06:21 PM) You are so hardworking since I am intending to drop stupid Add Math and some idiot science subjects in SPM. These subjects are quite bored and love to ask some stupid questions. I had lost my hope in these subjects I don't think the problem is from the subjects, it's you having some problems in learning. When I was taking SPM, I also hate add maths as I fail to understand most of the formula. It was too hard for me! Then, I get poor result in add maths. Now, when I think again about it. I realized that I had something troubled me at that time. I couldn't concentrate into study and that was why I get the poor result. Sort out your problems and solve it first before change your interest into study. This post has been edited by work_tgr: Jan 19 2009, 07:20 PM |
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Jan 19 2009, 07:44 PM
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For a GP, the 5th term is 2/81 and the sum of the 3rd and the 4th terms is 8/27. The common ratio is positive. Find
a) the common ration How? I have stucked |
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Jan 19 2009, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 19 2009, 07:44 PM) For a GP, the 5th term is 2/81 and the sum of the 3rd and the 4th terms is 8/27. The common ratio is positive. Find ar^4=2/81 -->(1)a) the common ration How? I have stucked a(r^2+r^3)=8/27 ar^2(1+r)=8/27 -->(2) solve it ... *I think so* (1)/(2) r^2/(1+r)=4/3 3r^2-4r-4=0 (3r+2)(r-2)=0 r=2 This post has been edited by work_tgr: Jan 19 2009, 08:02 PM |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:05 PM
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lol.. I have solved it. just donoe the factorise part. btw, work_tgr ur answer wrong leh
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Jan 19 2009, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 19 2009, 08:05 PM) lol.. I have solved it. just donoe the factorise part. btw, work_tgr ur answer wrong leh too bad then ...  |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:18 PM
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another ques
The sum of the first 3 terms of a GP is 13 times its first term. Find the possible values of the common ratio of the GP |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 19 2009, 08:18 PM) another ques create two equations and solve .... like the previous oneThe sum of the first 3 terms of a GP is 13 times its first term. Find the possible values of the common ratio of the GP |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:28 PM
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I stucked lah. Dono how to factorise
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Jan 19 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 19 2009, 07:44 PM) For a GP, the 5th term is 2/81 and the sum of the 3rd and the 4th terms is 8/27. The common ratio is positive. Find Here is the solution...a) the common ration How? I have stucked  |
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Jan 19 2009, 08:42 PM
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how about the next ques?
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Jan 19 2009, 10:26 PM
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i see add math disccusion lols...
my teacher at sch slow!!... baru reach ap... zzz... est if dun study can score?? |
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Jan 19 2009, 11:28 PM
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Huhu i just finished SPM last year, now waiting result!
Add math for me is ok, normally get 75~80 which is cukup makan only... >.< Good luck SPM 2009 students~ |
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Jan 19 2009, 11:48 PM
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Btw guys, seriously need your help. I am running out of suitable topics to be writen in Tugasan Harian in Iltizam A, Moral Project. More topics for the karangan, the better. =D
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Jan 20 2009, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 19 2009, 07:44 PM) For a GP, the 5th term is 2/81 and the sum of the 3rd and the 4th terms is 8/27. The common ratio is positive. Find This sentence makes me goa) the common ration How? I have stucked » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Alternative solution: 5th term : ar4 = 2/81 a = 2/81r4 sum of 3rd and 4th term : ar2 + ar3 = 8/27 ar2(1 + r) = 8/27 (2/81r2)(1 + r) = 8/27 (1/r2)(1 + r) = 12 1/r2 + 1/r - 12 = 0 * 12r2 - r - 1 = 0 (4r + 1)(3r - 1) = 0 r = 1/3 * Normally I would directly factorise this. (1/r + 4)(1/r - 3) = 0 1/r = -4 or 3 r = 1/3 |
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wow, mathematic discussion group here.
I oso hope can help others in maths. |
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Jan 20 2009, 09:43 PM
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what's the diffeence between
- the average rate of reaction in the second minute - the average rate of reaction in the 120th second? |
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Jan 20 2009, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 20 2009, 09:43 PM) what's the diffeence between I see no difference.- the average rate of reaction in the second minute - the average rate of reaction in the 120th second? |
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Jan 20 2009, 11:10 PM
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If in the second minutes mean the volume of gas produced is between first min and 2nd min.if in the 120 th second, I think the book question has wrong.suppose to be in the first 120 s or at the 120th second.
Am I correct?? |
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Jan 20 2009, 11:11 PM
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at the 120th second
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Jan 20 2009, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Jan 20 2009, 11:11 PM) at the 120th second then, the question must be "the rate at the 120th second". *no need to mention average* |
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Jan 20 2009, 11:14 PM
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can mention average la.. edit: no need average..sorry
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Jan 20 2009, 11:15 PM
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so, no such question like asking about average rate of reaction in the 120th second? normally is average rate of reaction in the second MINUTE? which mean the total volume collected in the first 2 second minus the totalo volume of gas collected in the first minutes over 1 min?
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Jan 21 2009, 10:50 AM
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somehow, this tread's growth rate is rather slow, compared to few months ago...lol...all spm canditates already gone
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I'm form 4 this year. I can't understand the chapter Absolute Value Function in add math where we need to sketch a graph according to equation given? mind to elighten me? can show me on how to answer this question?
3. Sketch the graph of absolute value function f(x)=|x-3| in the domain -2(<=)x(<=)4. Hence, determine the corresponding range of the function. 1.Am I doing this question right? Q : Given that f(x)=|3x-1|, find the possible value of a if f(a)= 5 f(a)=|3(2)-1| =|6-1| =|5| Hence, a = 2. |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:11 PM
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f(a)=|3(a)-1|
5=|3a-1| 5=3a-1 a=2 @ -5=3a-1 a= -4/3 |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 21 2009, 12:11 PM) f(a)=|3(a)-1| so it have 2 answers right? according to my teacher who i can't understand what he teaches.5=|3a-1| 5=3a-1 a=2 @ -5=3a-1 a= -4/3 |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jan 21 2009, 12:16 PM) so it have 2 answers right? according to my teacher who i can't understand what he teaches. yeah, two answers. |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 21 2009, 12:18 PM) yeah, two answers. so in exams, need to give both answers? because absolute value function if negative value need to change to positive right? |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jan 21 2009, 12:19 PM) so in exams, need to give both answers? because absolute value function if negative value need to change to positive right? give both answers.tips: if the question say "possible values", then it must be more then 1 answer. This post has been edited by work_tgr: Jan 21 2009, 12:23 PM |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 21 2009, 12:23 PM) give both answers. but there is no S in the question above.tips: if the question say "possible values", then it must be more then 1 answer. |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:29 PM
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don't the answer is -4/3<x<2 ?
that's the corresponding range right? okay maybe i'm not too sure.since boy i have leave that age forever! This post has been edited by milleu: Jan 21 2009, 12:30 PM |
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Jan 21 2009, 12:37 PM
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should be two answers, unless the question has mentioned the range of a.
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Jan 21 2009, 12:56 PM
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Markers will not deduct marks if you gives 2 answers from one equation, either both are correct or one is rejected or both are wrong lol.
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Jan 21 2009, 02:52 PM
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It's two answers la.
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Jan 21 2009, 03:06 PM
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what about the graph question? anyone can teach me how to do it?
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Jan 21 2009, 03:12 PM
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just put the ranges of into the equation and start plotting. I think?
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Jan 21 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jan 21 2009, 03:06 PM) what about the graph question? anyone can teach me how to do it? as what milleu said, since the question is asking you to sketch.f(x)=|x-3| in the domain -2(<=)x(<=)4. f(-2)=? f(-1)=? f(0)=? f(1)=? f(2)=? f(3)=? f(4)=? then sketch. Another method is sketch first f(x)=x-3 Then "mirror" all of the negative value for f(x) to the positive side (upper side of cartersian graph) This post has been edited by work_tgr: Jan 21 2009, 04:55 PM |
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QUOTE(Forgotten06 @ Jan 7 2009, 07:46 PM) Oh god....i love this thread. I'm also form 5 this year , science stream student but without Bio Any 2009 SPM takers? So far I spotted vick and ilovecookies92 only. , so hello pals.Btw, im having problem on understanding Destructive interference and Constructive interference in physics - Wave. Could anyone help me on this? EDIT:  Nvm , i've found the answer for it. Questions regarding to Chem will be posted later May i add you on msn, jiaxun koko? This post has been edited by Riggo: Jan 21 2009, 05:50 PM |
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Jan 21 2009, 06:05 PM
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I still don't have any clue on how to sketch the graph...
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QUOTE(Riggo @ Jan 21 2009, 05:29 PM) I'm also form 5 this year , science stream student but without Bio hey, nice to meet you , so hello pals.Btw, im having problem on understanding Destructive interference and Constructive interference in physics - Wave. Could anyone help me on this? EDIT:  Nvm , i've found the answer for it. Questions regarding to Chem will be posted later  May i add you on msn, jiaxun koko? p/s post your chem questions.I also want to revise This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 21 2009, 06:19 PM |
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:05 PM) I still don't have any clue on how to sketch the graph... u've gotta find the x-int and y-int and the min point. the graph should be reflected on the x-axis if i'm not mistaken so it will look pretty weird. as for the domain, its just a domain whr u just get the 2 points and the graph is between em |
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Jan 21 2009, 06:38 PM
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Does anyone have any clue on analyzing ions?
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Jan 21 2009, 06:40 PM
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what do you mean?
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Jan 21 2009, 06:54 PM
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Qualitative Analysis of ions
To identify the cation and anion present in a given substance. You'll be given a substance and also colour of it [sometimes] in a common question. I've no idea whether this kind of question would frequently pop up in SPM paper. This post has been edited by Riggo: Jan 21 2009, 07:24 PM |
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Jan 21 2009, 07:16 PM
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post your ques lo
Added on January 21, 2009, 7:16 pmI most love salt This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 21 2009, 07:16 PM |
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I've also been revising salts for few days , its quite tough tho. Have to memorise all the insoluble and soluble salts ><. Besides, questions for the analysis of ions are truely long, you may try to find it in any reference book , but i'll try to quote it from google ;D.
EDIT: What is up with your MSN? you're not signed in. EDIT2: Analysis of ions is included in salt chapter. This post has been edited by Riggo: Jan 21 2009, 07:27 PM |
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Jan 21 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Jan 21 2009, 06:05 PM) I still don't have any clue on how to sketch the graph... y-axis is f(x) |
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Jan 21 2009, 07:45 PM
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msn down lo.
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Jan 22 2009, 09:17 AM
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oh yeah trust me,recognizing the ion is important.
I remember my teacher gave me this chart. Really simple to understand.But then yes takes a lot of memorization.But it's nothing really when you starting to learn organic chemistry. |
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Jan 22 2009, 09:34 PM
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Hey guys, how to construt an ionic equation based on the chemical equation? can teach me step by step?
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Jan 22 2009, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 22 2009, 09:34 PM) Hey guys, how to construt an ionic equation based on the chemical equation? can teach me step by step? Which chemical equation? |
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Need help,
Xsquare - 2k (x + 3) = 6x + 2 has equal roots. Should i use this? Bsquare - 4ac = 0? If so, teach me how, i slept in class today. =_= Added on January 22, 2009, 10:08 pmForm 4 FYI. Added on January 22, 2009, 10:11 pmAdd maths FYIT. This post has been edited by abang brother: Jan 22 2009, 10:11 PM |
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 22 2009, 10:08 PM) Need help, can.Xsquare - 2k (x + 3) = 6x + 2 has equal roots. Should i use this? Bsquare - 4ac = 0? If so, teach me how, i slept in class today. =_= Added on January 22, 2009, 10:08 pmForm 4 FYI. another method is to make 2 equations of SOR and POR, then solve them simultaneously |
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 22 2009, 10:08 PM) Need help, Expand the equation first into general form (i.e. making the equation = 0)Xsquare - 2k (x + 3) = 6x + 2 has equal roots. Should i use this? Bsquare - 4ac = 0? If so, teach me how, i slept in class today. =_= Added on January 22, 2009, 10:08 pmForm 4 FYI. x2 - 2k(x + 3) = 6x + 2 x2 + (-6 - 2k)x - 2 - 6k = 0 Comparing the equation ax2 + bx + c = 0, (-6 - 2k)2 - 4(1)(-2-6k) = 0 And solve for k. |
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Jan 22 2009, 10:14 PM
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Oh okay thanks.
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Jan 22 2009, 10:14 PM
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normal balanced chemical equation lo.Teach me the steps to rite an ionic equation
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QUOTE(IamjustME @ Jan 22 2009, 10:12 PM) Expand the equation first into general form (i.e. making the equation = 0) Uh wait, do i need to use Bsquare - 4ac = 0?x2 - 2k(x + 3) = 6x + 2 x2 + (-6 - 2k)x - 2 - 6k = 0 Comparing the equation ax2 + bx + c = 0, (-6 - 2k)2 - 4(1)(-2-6k) = 0 And solve for k. |
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Jan 22 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 22 2009, 10:16 PM) Uh wait, do i need to use Bsquare - 4ac = 0? that equation is b^2-4ac=0 |
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Jan 22 2009, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 22 2009, 10:18 PM) that equation is b^2-4ac=0 oh ya lol. Didnt see 4. |
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Jan 22 2009, 11:35 PM
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Need help again, x^2 + 2kx + 2 - k = 0 has equal roots. thx.
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Jan 23 2009, 09:12 AM
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give some of the examples of ionic writing equation. then perhaps I could explain it to you.
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 22 2009, 11:35 PM) Need help again, x^2 + 2kx + 2 - k = 0 has equal roots. thx. a= 1 b=2k c= 2-kb^2 - 4ac = 0 (2k)^2 - 4(2-k)=0 4k^2 - 8 + 4k = 0 K^2 + k - 2=0 (k+2)(k-1)=0 k=-2 k=1 |
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The sum of the first 2 terms of a GP is 3 and the sum of the next two terms is 3/16. Find the positive value of the first term and the common ratio |
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need the solution？
Added on January 23, 2009, 5:03 pm QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 23 2009, 04:33 PM) Add math ques r = 0.25 @ 1/4The sum of the first 2 terms of a GP is 3 and the sum of the next two terms is 3/16. Find the positive value of the first term and the common ratio a = 2.4? Sorry, I do not have a calculator with me right now. GP = a, ar , ar^2 , ar^3 Sum of 1st 2 terms, a+ar = 3 @ a(1+r) = 3 Sum of next 2 terms, ar^2 + ar^3 =3/16 @ ar^2(1+r) = 3/16 then...solve it. 1/r^2 = 16 r^2 = 1/16 r = 0.25 then just calculate your a. Added on January 23, 2009, 5:05 pmHehe, others may check my answer. There are few months time since SPM I do not touch AM. Ha This post has been edited by khaishin: Jan 23 2009, 05:08 PM |
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Jan 23 2009, 05:22 PM
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oh yea.thanks. I dono how to do because I dono how to factorise la.How to overcome this factorisation problem?
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Jan 23 2009, 11:13 PM
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If you are good with division and multiplication, then i guess you can overcome "lack of factorisation skills".= )
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Jan 23 2009, 11:23 PM
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can teach me factorisation skills?
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Jan 23 2009, 11:34 PM
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u need to practice more to find figure it out..
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Jan 23 2009, 11:39 PM
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I roughly got it already
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Jan 23 2009, 11:44 PM
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chemistry Q:
Aluminium nitrate can be prepared by mixing A) aluminium chloride with dilute nitric acid B)aluminium oxide with dilute nitric acid C)aluminium sulphate solution with sodium nitrate solution D)aluminium carbonate with potassium nitrate solution Post your correct answer with explaination please. This post has been edited by Riggo: Jan 23 2009, 11:46 PM |
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Jan 23 2009, 11:49 PM
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Aluminium nitrate is a soluble salt Soluble salt can be prepared by four method First method - acid + alkali ( soluble salt of SAP) second method - acid + metal third method - acid + metal oxide foruth method - acid + metal carbonate The second to fourth method can be used to prepare soluble salt that is not salt of SAP For the second method, If the metal is lower than H in the Electrochemical series such as copper, there is no any displacement reaction occurs. So, salt like copper (ii) nitrate cant be prepared by mixing Nitric acid with copper metal |
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Jan 23 2009, 11:51 PM
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Well, if you all continue to do revision like now,
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Jan 23 2009, 11:53 PM
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instead of posting questions here y dun ask classmates or frens? the explanation in the reference or text book is clear enuf jor. |
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Jan 23 2009, 11:55 PM
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classmate not same hse how to ask
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Jan 23 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 23 2009, 05:22 PM) oh yea.thanks. I dono how to do because I dono how to factorise la.How to overcome this factorisation problem? I am not so sure with the answer.You may calculate it again, as I do not have a calculator along, just do it roughly. For your problem, Hm, I think you may buy a Modern Maths reference book and look for the solution through the book. Personally I would suggest Sasbadi. There are many clear examples for you to learn factorization. Else, I think Pelangi Add Maths reference book would be a good choice too. |
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Jan 24 2009, 12:00 AM
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I have lots of add math referece and exercise books
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Jan 24 2009, 12:04 AM
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Tq for your good explaination , dude. Im much clearer now
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Jan 24 2009, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 24 2009, 12:00 AM) I have lots of add math referece and exercise books Spending your spare time to learn it.Factorization is the very basic and vital. This post has been edited by khaishin: Jan 24 2009, 12:10 AM |
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Jan 24 2009, 12:10 AM
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For the chemistry subject, why don't you go try do the pas year questions(with answers and explanation provided)? Last time i write the answers and explanations on each questions so is easier to refer back when revision. Write on your own, what you have wrote may help you memorize it. |
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Jan 24 2009, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(Riggo @ Jan 24 2009, 12:04 AM) Tq for your good explaination , dude. Im much clearer now welcome. I also can revise form 4 works.hehe. This chap I studied it myself |
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Jan 26 2009, 01:14 AM
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i tot calculator can do the job of factorisation for us?
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Jan 26 2009, 12:27 PM
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can but just for quadractic equation
Added on January 26, 2009, 8:10 pmcan teach me what function else can 570 do? like can factorise, matrix and ???? Added on January 27, 2009, 6:25 pm QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 26 2009, 12:27 PM) can but just for quadractic equation which of the following chemical solutions produces a chemical reaction when mixed?Added on January 26, 2009, 8:10 pmcan teach me what function else can 570 do? like can factorise, matrix and ???? A. sodium chloride and sulphuric acid B. Potassium nitrate and zinc sulphate C. Silver sulphate and magnesium chloride D. Ammonium carbonate and lithium chloride how o? This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 27 2009, 06:25 PM |
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Jan 27 2009, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 26 2009, 12:27 PM) can but just for quadractic equation Please help me.urgentAdded on January 26, 2009, 8:10 pmcan teach me what function else can 570 do? like can factorise, matrix and ???? Added on January 27, 2009, 6:25 pm which of the following chemical solutions produces a chemical reaction when mixed? A. sodium chloride and sulphuric acid B. Potassium nitrate and zinc sulphate C. Silver sulphate and magnesium chloride D. Ammonium carbonate and lithium chloride how o? another ques This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 27 2009, 06:46 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jan 27 2009, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 27 2009, 06:27 PM) Please help me.urgent Q1 A sample of water contains 1.8 x 1022 hydrogen atoms. How many moles of water is in the sample?another ques Q2 Which solution will cause Iron (III) ion, precipitate to be formed? I Ammonia II Potassium hexacyanoferrate (II) III Sodium Hydroxide IV Potassium hexacyanoferrate (III) Q3 Among the following pairs of compounds, which can react? I Pb(NO3)2(s) + H2SO4(aq) II NaNO3 (aq) + CuCl (aq) III Zn(NO3)2(aq) + K2CO3(aq) IV NaOH (aq) + CH3COOH ( aq) |
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Jan 27 2009, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 27 2009, 06:55 PM) Q1 A sample of water contains 1.8 x 1022 hydrogen atoms. How many moles of water is in the sample? Q1Q2 Which solution will cause Iron (III) ion, precipitate to be formed?   I Ammonia   II Potassium hexacyanoferrate (II)   III Sodium Hydroxide   IV Potassium hexacyanoferrate (III) Q3 Among the following pairs of compounds, which can react?   I Pb(NO3)2(s) + H2SO4(aq)   II NaNO3 (aq) + CuCl (aq)   III Zn(NO3)2(aq) + K2CO3(aq)   IV NaOH (aq) + CH3COOH ( aq) Each water molecule got two hydrogen atoms so you must divide by two to get one molecule of hydrogen (H2) You will get 9 x 10^21 According to the ratio of moles, 9 x 10^2 Mole of H2 = 9 x 10^2 Mole of H2O (Based on what is given) Edit: Don't forget to convert the answer to moles! Q2 II, III, IV I cannot because only aqueous ammonia can Q3 I am not too sure about this. This post has been edited by PetroToxin: Jan 27 2009, 11:29 PM |
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Jan 27 2009, 11:28 PM
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Q1:
Equation: 2H + 1/2 O2 --> H2O 1.8 x 10^22 / 6.02 x 10 ^23 = 0.03 mol 0.03 mol / 2 = 0.015mol Ans: 0.015 mol Q2: The four OA's I know is bromine water, chlorine water, acidified potassium manganate (VII) & potassium dichromate (VI)... There are more, but I'm not sure because these are the 4 OA's which my teacher told me to remember. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxidizing_age...xidizing_agents for more details. then again, don't really know the question. Q3: III & IV --- Question in previous page: The answer A. No other possible answers because zinc, magnesium and aluminium are much higher than H in the Reactivity series. Although Lead is higher than H in the reactivity series, because the distance between the two is not big that's why it's possible for H to react with the oxide of lead. |
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Jan 27 2009, 11:39 PM
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if higher than H, the reaction will be vigorous? and maybe explod?
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Jan 27 2009, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 4 2009, 04:20 PM) what mean by compact book? SMALL PAPER THAT CAN BRING TO EXAM HALL SO U CAN C IT IF U DUNNO THE ANSWER hehe |
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Jan 27 2009, 11:53 PM
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damn..i just missed 1 add math and math lesson because of fever now completely lost...WTH!
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Jan 27 2009, 11:54 PM
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ques post here lo..we help you
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Jan 28 2009, 12:01 AM
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mod math ques:
1. 4.7x10 to the power of -5 + 1.9 x 10 to the power of -4 2. 7.5 x 10 to the power of 4 + 8.7 x 10 to the power of 3 how to solve this questions? I missed the lesson becoz of fever now teacher gave homework for CNY holiday, i'm out of clue on how to solve it. and 1 more question, do we supply with periodic table in spm when sitting chemistry paper? This post has been edited by yellowherbie: Jan 28 2009, 12:09 AM |
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Jan 28 2009, 03:09 AM
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yup, periodic table supplied
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Jan 28 2009, 10:19 AM
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anyone can help me solve all the chem ques? thanks
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Jan 28 2009, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(yellowherbie @ Jan 28 2009, 12:01 AM) mod math ques: 0.000047+0.00019=0.0002371. 4.7x10 to the power of -5 + 1.9 x 10 to the power of -4 2. 7.5 x 10 to the power of 4 + 8.7 x 10 to the power of 3 how to solve this questions? I missed the lesson becoz of fever now teacher gave homework for CNY holiday, i'm out of clue on how to solve it. and 1 more question, do we supply with periodic table in spm when sitting chemistry paper? 75000+8700=83700 Nobody can confirm if periodic table is given in SPM, but the chance is high. Added on January 28, 2009, 12:49 pm QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 27 2009, 06:55 PM) Q1 A sample of water contains 1.8 x 1022 hydrogen atoms. How many moles of water is in the sample? Q1=> divided 2Q2 Which solution will cause Iron (III) ion, precipitate to be formed? I Ammonia II Potassium hexacyanoferrate (II) III Sodium Hydroxide IV Potassium hexacyanoferrate (III) Q3 Among the following pairs of compounds, which can react? I Pb(NO3)2(s) + H2SO4(aq) II NaNO3 (aq) + CuCl (aq) III Zn(NO3)2(aq) + K2CO3(aq) IV NaOH (aq) + CH3COOH ( aq) Q2=> not sure, u should refer to the chapter about salt Q3=> I think all can (not sure) This post has been edited by work_tgr: Jan 28 2009, 12:49 PM |
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Jan 28 2009, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(work_tgr @ Jan 28 2009, 12:45 PM) 0.000047+0.00019=0.000237 i mean last year they provided the table?75000+8700=83700 Nobody can confirm if periodic table is given in SPM, but the chance is high. Added on January 28, 2009, 12:49 pm Q1=> divided 2 Q2=> not sure, u should refer to the chapter about salt Q3=> I think all can (not sure) |
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Jan 28 2009, 02:14 PM
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yeah, im last year spm candidates. Table supplied
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Jan 28 2009, 02:25 PM
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guys
"this day" or "today" ? thanks! |
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Jan 28 2009, 03:03 PM
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Nowadays.
Added on January 28, 2009, 3:03 pmHaha, what are you asking actually =.= This post has been edited by khaishin: Jan 28 2009, 03:03 PM |
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QUOTE(silverchain @ Jan 28 2009, 02:14 PM) yeah, im last year spm candidates. Table supplied Last year candidate as well.But there is no periodic table in Paper 1 right? Actually Paper 1 is free marks... Need to work hard on Paper 2 and 3 |
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Jan 28 2009, 03:23 PM
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Paper 1 is easy man.haha
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Jan 28 2009, 07:45 PM
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yup, paper 1 for all 3sc subject is practically easy, just general knowledge. Cud be free mark, unless u never read the textbook
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Jan 29 2009, 01:48 PM
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why no one can answer my chem ques? need help really? no one is pro here?
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Jan 29 2009, 01:51 PM
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Is it? I forgot about Paper 1.
Paper 2 is easy !! |
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Jan 29 2009, 02:00 PM
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periodic table is always given in SPM
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Jan 30 2009, 12:52 PM
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why need to refer to periodic table.? so far I do not use them
Added on January 30, 2009, 2:31 pm QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 30 2009, 12:52 PM) why need to refer to periodic table.? so far I do not use them when will we be using periodic table? In F4 chapter 9? The alloy part? tell us to draw the arrangement?This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 30 2009, 02:31 PM |
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Periodic table is used to determine the electron arrangement and which group that certain chemical belongs in. In 2008 SPM periodic table is not supplied for paper 1 but paper 2.
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Need help, a.maths
5) Given that 3mx^2 + 3m = 7nx has equal roots and m and n are positive, find the ratio m : n and hence solve the equation. lol wut?? |
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Jan 30 2009, 08:30 PM
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apply b^2 - 4ac la
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QUOTE(yellowherbie @ Jan 28 2009, 12:01 AM) mod math ques: Use 350/570 Casio, or calculator not allowed ?1. 4.7x10 to the power of -5 + 1.9 x 10 to the power of -4 2. 7.5 x 10 to the power of 4 + 8.7 x 10 to the power of 3 how to solve this questions? I missed the lesson becoz of fever now teacher gave homework for CNY holiday, i'm out of clue on how to solve it. and 1 more question, do we supply with periodic table in spm when sitting chemistry paper? 0.000047 + 0.00019 Last year candidate here too, table given. Checked my P1 after the test, guess what ? I scored 40/50, im kinda lazy fellow but the its easy. Im not shooting with gun, but did bad in P2/P3.  This post has been edited by pokeat: Jan 31 2009, 06:02 PM |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Jan 27 2009, 06:27 PM) Please help me.urgent When we are comparing reactivity, we use the reactivity series, which is slightly different from electrochemical seriesanother ques K Na Ca Mg Al C Zn H2 Fe Sn Pb Cu Hg Ag Au Pt Element at higher position in the reactivity series means that tendency of the element to release electron is higher than the element below it to become oxidised. Hence, more reactive. Mg, Al and Zn are more reactive than hydrogen therefore the MgO, Al2O3 and ZnO cannot be reduced by hydrogen to become pure metal. However, Pb is less reactive than hydrogen therefore the PbO can be reduced by hydrogen. |
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Jan 31 2009, 10:05 PM
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This one is form 5 questions? chapter 3?
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Jan 31 2009, 10:09 PM
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Oxidation n Reduction, haha i got a really pro skill to use.
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Added on January 31, 2009, 10:19 pm QUOTE(jiaxun @ Jan 31 2009, 10:03 PM) When we are comparing reactivity, we use the reactivity series, which is slightly different from electrochemical series why use reactivity series. not ECS?K Na Ca Mg Al C Zn H2 Fe Sn Pb Cu Hg Ag Au Pt Element at higher position in the reactivity series means that tendency of the element to release electron is higher than the element below it to become oxidised. Hence, more reactive. Mg, Al and Zn are more reactive than hydrogen therefore the MgO, Al2O3 and ZnO cannot be reduced by hydrogen to become pure metal. However, Pb is less reactive than hydrogen therefore the PbO can be reduced by hydrogen. This post has been edited by vick5821: Jan 31 2009, 10:19 PM |
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Notice the series, got Hydrogen. Is H not H2. To test the reactivity of metals, i.e MgO + 2H -> MgO + H2 [ correct me if im wrong ]
If PbO reduced by H [ PbO + H -> H2O + Pb ] means its oxidation. Reduced = Oxidation Emm, right ar ? Positive terminal must be Oxidation in Electrical cell. |
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QUOTE(pokeat @ Jan 31 2009, 11:19 PM) Notice the series, got Hydrogen. Is H not H2. To test the reactivity of metals, i.e MgO + 2H -> MgO + H2 [ correct me if im wrong ] Hydrogen exists as molecule. It does not exist as mono atom.If PbO reduced by H [ PbO + H -> H2O + Pb ] means its oxidation. Reduced = Oxidation Emm, right ar ? Positive terminal must be Oxidation in Electrical cell. Hence, in the reactivity series it should be H2 and not H |
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Feb 1 2009, 04:01 PM
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Any1 of you have finished your Moral SPM tugasan harian? Mind to share with me the topics you are writing? Just topics.
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Reaction between barium chloride and potassium carbonate solutino produced an insoluble salt. The salt produced can be dissolved by adding
A. Ammonia hydroxide solution B. sodium chloride solution C. ammonia aqueous D. sulphuric acid How to do? |
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Can anyone help me with this add math question?
A function h is defined as h : x --> 2 - sin x. Find the image of x = 30degree. This post has been edited by Shah_15: Feb 1 2009, 11:58 PM |
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Feb 1 2009, 11:50 PM
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just substitute.h(30) --> 2 - sin30
= 2- 0.5 = 1.5 correct ar? This post has been edited by vick5821: Feb 2 2009, 12:01 AM |
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Feb 1 2009, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 1 2009, 11:50 PM) just substitute.h(30) --> 2(30) +5 - sin30 sorry bro...question tersilap type.. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â =65 -0.5 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â = 64.5 correct ar? This post has been edited by Shah_15: Feb 1 2009, 11:58 PM |
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Feb 1 2009, 11:59 PM
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Hard to explain la.you also no ans.how I know correct or not.but I think it is correct. h:x ---> 2- sin x is actually h(x) : 2 - sin x
so x value(object) is in the bracket, so all substitue with x.and now the object is 30, so all change lo.Hope its help.lol This post has been edited by vick5821: Feb 2 2009, 12:02 AM |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 1 2009, 11:59 PM) Hard to explain la.you also no ans.how I know correct or not.but I think it is correct. h:x ---> 2x + 5 - sin30 is actually h(x) : 2x + 5- sin30 tersilap type la bro...post reedit with correct question..so x value(object) is in the bracket, so all substitue with x.and now the object is 30, so all change lo.Hope its help.lol |
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Feb 2 2009, 12:08 AM
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so basically just subtituted X with 30? sorry for noob question..just started learning add math..
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Feb 2 2009, 12:09 AM
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yea. see what value is in the bracket which mean object
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Feb 2 2009, 12:14 AM
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what about this?
A fuction g is defined as g : x = 1/x+3. Find the value of a) g(0),g(-2),g(1),g(x+2) b) state the value of x such that the function is not defined. I just need basic idea..you just help me with 2 only also can so i can have rough ideas on how to solve it. |
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Feb 2 2009, 12:14 AM) what about this? Just substitute X with the value given.A fuction g is defined as g : x = 1/x+3. Find the value of a) g(0),g(-2),g(1),g(x+2) b) state the value of x such that the function is not defined. I just need basic idea..you just help me with 2 only also can so i can have rough ideas on how to solve it. Given that, g(x) = 1/x+3 g(0) = 1/0+3 g(-2)= 1/-2+3 g(1) = 1/1+3 g(x+2)= [1/x+3]+2 To make the function undefined/not defined, you must make it to be divided by zero. Hence, x+3 (denominator) = 0 x = -3 |
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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Feb 2 2009, 12:21 AM) Just substitute X with the value given. so the answer for a) is just those? no need to find the value?Given that, g(x) = 1/x+3 g(0) = 1/0+3 g(-2)= 1/-2+3 g(1) = 1/1+3 g(x+2)= [1/x+3]+2 To make the function undefined/not defined, you must make it to be divided by zero. Hence, x+3 (denominator) = 0 x = -3 |
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Evaluate the calculations and you get the values. Those are your answers.
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Feb 2 2009, 12:25 AM) so the answer for a) is just those? no need to find the value? need just cont...g(0)=1/0+3 =3 ... and so on... u guys all finish homework... tmr ady sch |
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Feb 1 2009, 02:43 PM) Hydrogen exists as molecule. It does not exist as mono atom. Yes, u're correct. But the series wont show any H2, i bet. The series only represent the type of element but not element's mol like Na2+, Pb2+ .Hence, in the reactivity series it should be H2 and not H |
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Feb 2 2009, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Feb 2 2009, 01:04 AM) need just cont... can elaborate on how you get the answer 3 from g(0)=1/0+3?g(0)=1/0+3 =3 ... and so on... u guys all finish homework... tmr ady sch |
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Feb 2 2009, 04:17 AM
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U'll get ERROR if u press the calculator, dun try. Everything divides zero = 0
g(x) = 1/x + 3, When x = 0,1,2,3 g(0) = 1/0 + 3 = 3 g(1) = 1/1 + 3 g(2) = 1/2 + 3 |
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Feb 2 2009, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Feb 2 2009, 03:22 AM) can elaborate on how you get the answer 3 from g(0)=1/0+3? er... 1/0 = 0... what ever things devide or time 0 = 0so g(0)=1/0 + 3 =0+3 =3 correct me if im wrong This post has been edited by iceman31: Feb 2 2009, 05:19 PM |
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Feb 2 2009, 01:17 PM
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I got a friend in form four this year.
Any good reference or revision books you guys could recommend for Perdagangan, Ekonomi Asas and Prinsip Akaun. Thank you. |
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QUOTE(kvacks @ Feb 2 2009, 01:17 PM) I got a friend in form four this year. Sasbadi reference book for all the above.Any good reference or revision books you guys could recommend for Perdagangan, Ekonomi Asas and Prinsip Akaun. Thank you. And for prinsip akaun, you may get exercise books which are yellow in colour, seperate into Form 4 and Form 5, by Pelangi. The series contain a variety of exercises for each chapter. And there is a CD for all the answer. It's good for understanding. Actually all the reference books have almost the same content, but it really depends on yourself to read and understand it thoroughly. |
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Feb 2 2009, 03:47 PM
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I just know one really good book.
the pelangi add math book exercise.I swore by it. Do every single exercise and your add math surely will be A1. I know it works for me.considering that I never learn anything during my form 4 and I got A1 in add math thanks to this book..so it really works. |
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Feb 2 2009, 06:37 PM
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I don know wor. I am sc stream student
Added on February 2, 2009, 7:00 pmMy school paksa us take EST.But I don want because it may affect my chance to get JPA. Can we write a letter to kementerian Pelajaran Perak? This post has been edited by vick5821: Feb 2 2009, 07:00 PM |
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Feb 2 2009, 07:57 PM
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vick,your siggy tooooo big...
change it smaller... |
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Feb 2 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 2 2009, 06:37 PM) I don know wor. I am sc stream student ooo u from perak?? i tot KL le... Added on February 2, 2009, 7:00 pmMy school paksa us take EST.But I don want because it may affect my chance to get JPA. Can we write a letter to kementerian Pelajaran Perak? later Ujian intensive smt come up mid febuary about f4 chapter... any f4 student wana hit add math question especially fuction btw wats ur siggy all about?? |
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Feb 2 2009, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ Feb 1 2009, 04:01 PM) Any1 of you have finished your Moral SPM tugasan harian? Mind to share with me the topics you are writing? Just topics. Until now no one contribute? Any suggest topics to write will do. Can't think of it by myself. |
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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Feb 2 2009, 12:30 PM) er... 1/0 = 0... what ever things devide or time 0 = 0 1/0 gives you infinity (the opposite of zero), not zero.so g(0)=1/0 + 3 =0+3 =3 correct me if im wrong That's why we state any number divided by zero as undefined. PS: Will be going to Australia for 3 years, so can't really help much from now. Have fun! |
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Feb 2 2009, 11:00 PM
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lol learn function bcome history of my life haha... i gam gam graduated form 5 now waitting for SPM result haha....
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Feb 2 2009, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 2 2009, 06:37 PM) I don know wor. I am sc stream student The school CAN'T possible PAKSA you to take EST, you have the rights to take whatever subjects you want. As for learning EST in school, due to the lack of classes, that's just an excuse to bring you EST classes. Though! When they give you the paper to write down your signature and your subjects, there , you can write whether you are taking EST for SPM or not. You can be , NOT taking EST for SPM but still , studying EST as a school essential subject.Added on February 2, 2009, 7:00 pmMy school paksa us take EST.But I don want because it may affect my chance to get JPA. Can we write a letter to kementerian Pelajaran Perak? |
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Feb 3 2009, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(Synthesia @ Feb 2 2009, 11:49 PM) The school CAN'T possible PAKSA you to take EST, you have the rights to take whatever subjects you want. As for learning EST in school, due to the lack of classes, that's just an excuse to bring you EST classes. Though! When they give you the paper to write down your signature and your subjects, there , you can write whether you are taking EST for SPM or not. You can be , NOT taking EST for SPM but still , studying EST as a school essential subject. Technically they can't force you to take the subject.But the school administrators will make it an obligation, as part of your "school rules". |
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Feb 3 2009, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(fhNicK @ Feb 2 2009, 10:22 PM) 1/0 gives you infinity (the opposite of zero), not zero. thx clearing n correcting me... cuz i also dunno how to explain lol...That's why we state any number divided by zero as undefined. PS: Will be going to Australia for 3 years, so can't really help much from now. Have fun! how can the est effect jpa?? This post has been edited by iceman31: Feb 3 2009, 12:07 AM |
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Feb 3 2009, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Feb 3 2009, 12:06 AM) thx clearing n correcting me... cuz i also dunno how to explain lol... EST was known to be the hardest subject to score an A ? I think? At that moment of period, people thought that it would pollute the SPM slip. JPA seeks A'show can the est effect jpa?? |
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Feb 3 2009, 12:18 AM
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actually, a lot of ppl thinks that EST is a very easy paper but it is hard to score..for last year, the est essay question turn out to b easy for those who take Bio also...just pray hard that the essay is something esay..
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Feb 3 2009, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(Synthesia @ Feb 3 2009, 12:11 AM) EST was known to be the hardest subject to score an A ? I think? At that moment of period, people thought that it would pollute the SPM slip. JPA seeks A's QUOTE(tan91 @ Feb 3 2009, 12:18 AM) actually, a lot of ppl thinks that EST is a very easy people but it is hard to score..for last year, the est essay question turn out to b easy for those who take Bio also...just pray hard that the essay is something esay.. so its easy to answer but hard to score?? shud i drop my est?? cuz only tambahan... n take tasawwur... but im kind a noob in tasawwur...all the counselor in the sch advice to take tasawwur rather than est btw im sc stream student oh yeah... is it really matters to take 10 subject in spm?? |
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take as much as possible, score all and break the current record. Sure jpa scholarship will be in your hand. hahahha..
est is quite easy for me. I got an A for it. you just need to be good in writing crap stories that everyone will fall for it |
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Feb 3 2009, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Feb 3 2009, 12:25 AM) so its easy to answer but hard to score?? shud i drop my est?? cuz only tambahan... n take tasawwur... but im kind a noob in tasawwur... Exact answers within raymones post. all the counselor in the sch advice to take tasawwur rather than est btw im sc stream student oh yeah... is it really matters to take 10 subject in spm?? Ask yourself, are you good in elaborationg craps? If you are, then you are FIT for EST. Why hassle when you still have some time to think about EST. To me, it's a free A. To some, it's a killer paper. Different perspectives, you see. |
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Feb 3 2009, 12:50 AM
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best is to take more sujects to secure a scholarship..for my school, EST is compulsory for the science stream so although most of my friends do not want to take it, we r forced to take it...u should take up general science n also account(not that easy to get an A anymore for account since there is a change in the format)
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Feb 3 2009, 01:24 AM
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hai,i need to ask where can i take pendidikan seni tuisyen?at subang
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Feb 3 2009, 12:32 PM
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anyone form 5 here? just Riggo and ilovecookies92?
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Feb 3 2009, 01:59 PM
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yes i'm in form 5 too.
have you guys registered your subjects for spm? i'm taking the basic 10 subjects only, more than half of my classmates took additional subjects like PA and seni visual. just wanna concentrate in my 10 subjects, missed out alot in form 4 10 subjects enough to secure a place for scholarships? |
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Feb 3 2009, 02:18 PM
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haha.yesterday just registered. but still donoe want to take EST or not. any form 4 works that you don know can post up. I will help you
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Feb 3 2009, 03:02 PM
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if you are a science student who major in english, i recommend 'yes'
if you are a science student who lack in english, i recommend 'no' if you are not a science student who major in english, i recommend 'no' if you are not a science student who lack in english, i recommend 'no' if you are a science student who major in english and aiming to break SPM record, i would say 'go for it' if you are not a science student who lack in english and aiming to break SPM record, i would say 'you are out of your mind' As for vick...You can de la. top student like you wont be a problem de Added on February 3, 2009, 3:10 pm QUOTE(iJoel @ Feb 3 2009, 01:59 PM) yes i'm in form 5 too. 10 is enough. But you will need 10 straight A1's.have you guys registered your subjects for spm? i'm taking the basic 10 subjects only, more than half of my classmates took additional subjects like PA and seni visual. just wanna concentrate in my 10 subjects, missed out alot in form 4 10 subjects enough to secure a place for scholarships? I recommend you double comfrm with you school's counselor This post has been edited by styrwr91: Feb 3 2009, 03:19 PM |
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A 1.5 kg cannon is mounted on top of a 2.0 kg cart and loaded with a 52.7 gram ball. The cannon, cart and ball are moving forward with a speed of 1.27 m s-1 . The connon is ignited and launches a 52.7 gram ball forward with a speed of 75 m s-1. Determine the post-explosion velocity of the connon and the cart
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Feb 3 2009, 05:32 PM
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me this year form 5 toooo...
alot of my class mate take Pendidikan Seni... but i go take EST i dun dare to take alot of subject cuz my time managment err  This post has been edited by iceman31: Feb 3 2009, 05:32 PM |
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Feb 3 2009, 06:29 PM
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OMG! All of u have registered? Mine haven't yet. They try to tunda as much as possible.
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Feb 3 2009, 06:31 PM
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haha..far far away my spm
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Feb 3 2009, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 3 2009, 03:13 PM) A 1.5 kg cannon is mounted on top of a 2.0 kg cart and loaded with a 52.7 gram ball. The cannon, cart and ball are moving forward with a speed of 1.27 m s-1 . The connon is ignited and launches a 52.7 gram ball forward with a speed of 75 m s-1. Determine the post-explosion velocity of the connon and the cart is the answer 0.326ms-1?? hope that my physics not rust yet..This post has been edited by tan91: Feb 3 2009, 08:21 PM |
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Feb 3 2009, 08:46 PM
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nope the answer
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Feb 3 2009, 08:48 PM
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wat is the answer?? so that i can confirm whether i am right or not
new answer: 0.16 This post has been edited by tan91: Feb 3 2009, 08:50 PM |
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Feb 3 2009, 08:55 PM
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yaya..0.16
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Feb 3 2009, 08:57 PM
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i made a careless mistakes just now so thats y i got the wrong answer...
the weight of all 3 objects = 3.5527 3.5527(1.27) = 3.5v +0.0527(75) then u solve it...total momentum b4 n after must b the same... |
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last year account paper was hard...>.< very hard
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Feb 3 2009, 09:01 PM
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0.16 backward or forward? same direction as the ball?
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Feb 3 2009, 09:02 PM
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ya..same direction...mine is a positive velocity
Added on February 3, 2009, 9:02 pmaccount paper was hard because getting additional cert if get A so thats y the standard increase liow This post has been edited by tan91: Feb 3 2009, 09:02 PM |
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Feb 3 2009, 09:03 PM
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mean 0.16 forward? when we apply the formula m1v1=m2v2, we know the two velocity sure opposite one? just for the formula? other formula we follow the sign?
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Feb 3 2009, 09:06 PM
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ya..if explosion it will b negative...
actually for explosion, it still apply the law of m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v3 + m2v4 but since the initial velocity of explosion is 0 so left side is 0...hence m2v4 is brought to the left side and hence got a negative side |
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Feb 3 2009, 09:40 PM
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but usually people like to write the formula as m1v1=m2v2 because it is known that there are opposite side
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Feb 3 2009, 09:43 PM
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ya. i noe that..i just explaining to u how to get the formula only...
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Feb 3 2009, 09:55 PM
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how to derive the formula n=1/ sin c?
Added on February 3, 2009, 11:10 pmA bee flies in a direction perpendicular to a plane mirror at a speed of 0.8 m s-1. Whta is the distance travelled by the bee towards its image in 5s? how.? help me to understand the question This post has been edited by vick5821: Feb 3 2009, 11:10 PM |
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Feb 3 2009, 11:13 PM
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Guys, why we need to add 273c from degree celsius temperature to get the Kelvin?
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Feb 3 2009, 11:16 PM
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I don know.just memorise and know
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Feb 3 2009, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:55 PM) Added on February 3, 2009, 11:10 pmA bee flies in a direction perpendicular to a plane mirror at a speed of 0.8 m s-1. Whta is the distance travelled by the bee towards its image in 5s? how.? help me to understand the question So , in 5 seconds it travels 4 meters? Or my physics suck , haha. daym This post has been edited by Synthesia: Feb 3 2009, 11:51 PM |
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Feb 3 2009, 11:23 PM
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is 0.8 meter every second. I beat this question got problem
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Feb 3 2009, 11:30 PM
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4 meters?
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Feb 3 2009, 11:32 PM
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wrong.not this answer leh.so I bet this question got problem
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Feb 3 2009, 11:34 PM
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erm...just tembak2...
the bee is an object... the bee flies towards its image in 5s.. imagine that you standing in front a mirror... then u run towards ur image in the mirror.... its given that...every second the bee flies took 0.8m... so how about 5s.. by using a calculator...always counting on this useful machine..cant live without it.. 5 * 0.8 = ? still wrong answer... huh... i never open my physics book since i graduated from school...  Added on February 3, 2009, 11:43 pm QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 3 2009, 11:32 PM) wrong.not this answer leh.so I bet this question got problem if the question come out from text book..no need to bet..some text book answer r wrong.. in that case, ask ur physics teacher... i've always have that problem during secondary... if from other books....hahaha...ask ur teacher also ma..... This post has been edited by Wina: Feb 3 2009, 11:43 PM |
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Feb 3 2009, 11:49 PM
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from success book. can anyone confirm that the question got problem?
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Feb 3 2009, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:55 PM) how to derive the formula n=1/ sin c? I use success book last year. What is the answer?Added on February 3, 2009, 11:10 pmA bee flies in a direction perpendicular to a plane mirror at a speed of 0.8 m s-1. Whta is the distance travelled by the bee towards its image in 5s? how.? help me to understand the question The bee Ok, i was blind at first try. Now, i'm gonna seng mok tit. In physics, every detail must be taken in account. No one saw that. And the 2nd bold is just too general, it could be his NEW IMAGE or OLD IMAGE. Both different distances. If it was the old image, then yes 4Meter is the answer , without a doubt. Anyhow! If it was the new image, the bee actually travelled 4m of the bee, and 4m of the bee image. This goes by the saying, distance of object from mirror is equivalent to distance of object in mirror , or something like that. So is the answer 8meters? Or 4meters? |
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QUOTE(Synthesia @ Feb 3 2009, 11:55 PM) I use success book last year. What is the answer? yeah maybe 8..The bee Ok, i was blind at first try. Now, i'm gonna seng mok tit. In physics, every detail must be taken in account. No one saw that. And the 2nd bold is just too general, it could be his NEW IMAGE or OLD IMAGE. Both different distances. If it was the old image, then yes 4Meter is the answer , without a doubt. Anyhow! If it was the new image, the bee actually travelled 4m of the bee, and 4m of the bee image. This goes by the saying, distance of object from mirror is equivalent to distance of object in mirror , or something like that. So is the answer 8meters? Or 4meters? because in plane mirror...the image n object have same distance... different with convex or concave... basic: *******4m**********4m******** image----------mirror----------object This post has been edited by Wina: Feb 4 2009, 12:20 AM |
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Feb 3 2009, 09:02 PM) Added on February 3, 2009, 9:02 pmaccount paper was hard because getting additional cert if get A so thats y the standard increase liow |
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Feb 4 2009, 01:59 PM
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sorry if i am giving the wrong info....i am not so sure about it but i noe about the additional cert....but last year account is the hardest among the previous year...
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Feb 4 2009, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Feb 4 2009, 01:59 PM) sorry if i am giving the wrong info....i am not so sure about it but i noe about the additional cert....but last year account is the hardest among the previous year... Ya, it is the hardest. Last year add maths also is the hardest among previous years.Actually last year accounting paper, only questions no2 and 3 were hard because they were given by LCCI. The cert is LCCI cert, we are able to get it with SPM accounting Credit and rm25. Huhu.  |
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ya....lucky that last year they introduce the cert...for add maths, it is hard also...so wat r u doing now?? college or waiting for result??
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Feb 4 2009, 02:11 PM) ya....lucky that last year they introduce the cert...for add maths, it is hard also...so wat r u doing now?? college or waiting for result?? Work ..Haha:PYou? |
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ada pemeriksa yg mark paper addmath ckp..80% yg dia mark failed addmath(standard mark)..
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Feb 4 2009, 04:00 PM
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8 metre. why.? I don understand the question leh
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Feb 4 2009, 07:16 PM
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me now college..sunway college taking ausmat...i am sure the graph for add maths will b low since it is hard last year
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QUOTE(rainyrin @ Feb 4 2009, 02:32 PM) ada pemeriksa yg mark paper addmath ckp..80% yg dia mark failed addmath(standard mark).. my fren so confident say he gona get B3!!... aaa! T.T but they say mod math easeee is it true?? |
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 4 2009, 04:00 PM) 8 metre. why.? I don understand the question leh QUOTE A bee flies in a direction perpendicular to a plane mirror at a speed of 0.8 m s-1. Whta is the distance travelled by the bee towards its image in 5s? how.? help me to understand the question ok let me explain although i sux in physics, therefore this question is pretty general. As one of the forumer explains:- basic: *******4m**********4m******** image----------mirror----------object "bee">>>>>> <<<<<<<"bee" If you still do not understand the concept , get a measuring tape (construction type) and start pulling it from the starting point which is your mirror (preferable a mirror that shows from head to toe) to a spot where you stand. Next, look at the measuring tape from the spot you stand till the "image" of your spot in the mirror. Isn't it 2 times longer than the length of your measuring tape to the mirror(object)? This post has been edited by ilovecookies92: Feb 4 2009, 07:34 PM |
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Feb 4 2009, 07:16 PM) me now college..sunway college taking ausmat...i am sure the graph for add maths will b low since it is hard last year Oh, gonna fly to aus? haha.I have a friend taking foundation in arts there.. Hm, ya, it should be lowered..every years seem to be like that.. Heard that the passing mark for real SPM is 9.. Ha, the questions for paper 2 last year mostly i had did the same type in an exercise book.. Added on February 4, 2009, 8:23 pm QUOTE(iceman31 @ Feb 4 2009, 07:27 PM) my fren so confident say he gona get B3!!... mod maths is always easy.but they say mod math easeee is it true?? Added on February 4, 2009, 8:25 pm QUOTE(rainyrin @ Feb 4 2009, 02:32 PM) ada pemeriksa yg mark paper addmath ckp..80% yg dia mark failed addmath(standard mark).. 80% ??aaa! T.T it's crazy! Is it really so hard 80% failed .. This post has been edited by khaishin: Feb 4 2009, 08:25 PM |
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Anyone interested to buy used but look new 2007/2008 stpm art stream revision and exercise book ? message me.
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Feb 4 2009, 10:03 PM
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anyhow..after 6 year..spm is back in BM already
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Feb 4 2009, 10:44 PM
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not sure whether going to australia or not..need to c whether my result is good or not....i heard that the passing mark for add maths got as low as 4 before...i am not too sure about that also...
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Feb 4 2009, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Feb 4 2009, 10:44 PM) not sure whether going to australia or not..need to c whether my result is good or not....i heard that the passing mark for add maths got as low as 4 before...i am not too sure about that also... I'm still waiting for JPA and Sinchew edu fund.Ha, xD 4 to pass? lol, it's..pathetic |
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Feb 4 2009, 11:47 PM
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it show that how low is malaysian standard....got pros n cons for them to lower the graph la...
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Feb 4 2009, 11:53 PM
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Hey peeps! Im back! What's up?
-- Oh yeah, btw, I've just posted a thread in Garage SAles. I'm selling my reference books. SPM! Click below to view the thread |
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Feb 5 2009, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(fangir.LING @ Feb 5 2009, 12:53 AM) Hey peeps! Im back! What's up? dun promote book here la-- Oh yeah, btw, I've just posted a thread in Garage SAles. I'm selling my reference books. SPM! Click below to view the thread |
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Feb 5 2009, 02:04 PM
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I am now going to take my Undang and all that in February, getting a job in March and results, won't be going to college till August. Life after SPM=Boring.
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Feb 5 2009, 02:34 PM
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hohoho, I have the car lisence long time ago.. xD
read some books or learn something to improve yourself, hehe, that's the thing i am doing now xD |
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Feb 5 2009, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 5 2009, 03:34 PM) hohoho, I have the car lisence long time ago.. xD i dun have the fire spirit of reading jorread some books or learn something to improve yourself, hehe, that's the thing i am doing now xD |
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Feb 5 2009, 02:58 PM
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I am reading one self-help book too, How to win friend and influence People. Not bad. But if you call me to write an essay, that is problematic. XD
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Feb 5 2009, 03:33 PM
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Lolz, I am reading a book called the living bell and the butterfly.
Anyone heard of this ? Former chief editor of ELLE magazine,suffered from a massive stroke.. whole body paralyzed.. he wrote this with only his left eyelid....@@ |
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Feb 5 2009, 04:10 PM
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i am reading forum>.< while waiting for spm result
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Feb 5 2009, 04:16 PM
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when result out?
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Feb 5 2009, 04:33 PM
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March. Actually date still unknown.
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Feb 5 2009, 04:37 PM
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Why many people take car license after spm. For me if you don't own a car what for having car license. Besides living in kl you can go pretty much anywhere without car.
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Feb 5 2009, 04:39 PM
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the problem is I don't live in KL.
Added on February 5, 2009, 4:42 pm QUOTE(HANDofGOD @ Feb 5 2009, 04:16 PM) when result out? After PLKN 1st batch students come out and before the 2nd batch go in.So it might be in between 12/3 to 18/3. When's the school holiday? for march. It should be released during school holiday. This post has been edited by khaishin: Feb 5 2009, 04:42 PM |
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Feb 5 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 5 2009, 05:39 PM) the problem is I don't live in KL. its suck to be me..i am in the ns..can;t go and get my result if i am not free on these dayAdded on February 5, 2009, 4:42 pm After PLKN 1st batch students come out and before the 2nd batch go in. So it might be in between 12/3 to 18/3. When's the school holiday? for march. It should be released during school holiday. |
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Feb 5 2009, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(aronliew @ Feb 5 2009, 04:47 PM) its suck to be me..i am in the ns..can;t go and get my result if i am not free on these day but then if ur result good then ur kawan at ns oso result good then u all masuk surat khabar |
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Feb 5 2009, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(aronliew @ Feb 5 2009, 04:47 PM) its suck to be me..i am in the ns..can;t go and get my result if i am not free on these day How can you use internet in NS |
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Feb 5 2009, 04:53 PM
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Is there any scholarship for plkn students if they get a good result?
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Feb 5 2009, 04:57 PM
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That I am not sure. But one thing for sure, results day sure get spam online asking for our results. One part I don't mind telling, but it is the part where they compare your results with others that hurts.
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Feb 5 2009, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(VHunter @ Feb 5 2009, 04:57 PM) That I am not sure. But one thing for sure, results day sure get spam online asking for our results. One part I don't mind telling, but it is the part where they compare your results with others that hurts. i only cared when parent compare with others |
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Feb 5 2009, 05:04 PM
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Don't worry about your result. Soon you will realise SPM is not that important like it used to be long ago. Today got so many choices, private colleges you just need money. Or go to Form 6.
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Feb 5 2009, 05:05 PM
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I just aim 5 Credits, just 5! Hopefully I could hit my target.
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Feb 5 2009, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(VHunter @ Feb 5 2009, 06:05 PM) I just aim 5 Credits, just 5! Hopefully I could hit my target. math bloddy easy maa.... |
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Feb 5 2009, 05:14 PM
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5 credits already enough to enter any college...even the hard course. Just the subjects matter.
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Feb 5 2009, 05:22 PM
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I always fail Maths, never like it. But hopefully can score from Chemistry Paper 3.
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Feb 5 2009, 05:31 PM
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Hate math better dont go into engineering
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Feb 5 2009, 05:34 PM
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Planning to take a Diploma in Mass Communications.
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Feb 5 2009, 06:21 PM
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aronliew - is that wrong to promote here?
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Feb 5 2009, 08:04 PM
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yup..mod math sooooo easy...add math paper 2 sooooo hard..
Added on February 5, 2009, 8:05 pm QUOTE(iceman31 @ Feb 4 2009, 08:27 PM) my fren so confident say he gona get B3!!... This post has been edited by rainyrin: Feb 5 2009, 08:05 PMbut they say mod math easeee is it true?? |
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Feb 5 2009, 08:32 PM
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yoo hooo~~~
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QUOTE(ViLenG @ Feb 5 2009, 08:32 PM) yoo hooo~~~ aiyu =D Later get warning from mod  |
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Feb 5 2009, 08:52 PM
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So how's your studies going on, 09 SPM Candidates? So far so good?
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Feb 5 2009, 08:56 PM
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math is same shit every year...just do past year question sure can get a1
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Feb 5 2009, 10:41 PM
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I think my maths probably get A2, too nervous. @ @
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Feb 5 2009, 10:43 PM
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English lock on A1 already.
Now worried about BM, no Credit, die. |
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Feb 5 2009, 10:45 PM
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credit is a C right? above 50 izit?
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Feb 5 2009, 10:47 PM
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I'm more worried for my account and BC...especially bc lo...haiz...the percentage for get A1 in my school last year s oni 1.89%....
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Feb 5 2009, 10:48 PM
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SPM standard not standard, so can't tell if 50 can get C or not. And yes, Credit is C.
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Feb 5 2009, 11:27 PM
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sometimes 50 is A2..
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Feb 5 2009, 11:28 PM
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Exactly.
Accounts now 50/50 only. Thanks to LCCI's question, my confidence went down that time. |
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Feb 5 2009, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE(VHunter @ Feb 5 2009, 08:52 PM) So how's your studies going on, 09 SPM Candidates? So far so good? bad nxt nxt week got ujian interversi smt about form 4 chapter... my form 4 is like nvr go to sch , play in class ... lols |
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Feb 6 2009, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(VHunter @ Feb 5 2009, 08:52 PM) So how's your studies going on, 09 SPM Candidates? So far so good? Arranging time schedule for revision. But couldn't really apply it when come back from school coz too tired alredi. Plus so much homeworks and project. Hectic life.  |
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Feb 6 2009, 07:58 AM
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Ouch! Eh but it is normal. Same thing happened to me, I ended up not doing my homework, SOMETIMES.
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Feb 6 2009, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(pokeat @ Feb 5 2009, 10:41 PM) I think my maths probably get A2, too nervous. @ @ add maths or modern maths?Added on February 6, 2009, 11:16 am QUOTE(Foo Kent @ Feb 5 2009, 10:47 PM) I'm more worried for my account and BC...especially bc lo...haiz...the percentage for get A1 in my school last year s oni 1.89%.... lol. whole malaysia oni 0.2% or 0.5% get A1 last year. what do u expect this year? chinese paper marker even condemn chinese student....damn. no wonder so many chinese ppl cannot get scholarship cuz cannot get full A. me? chinese paper do wrong many question, paper 2 no need say la. get credit happy adiAdded on February 6, 2009, 11:17 am QUOTE(HiddenTrap @ Feb 5 2009, 05:31 PM) Hate math better dont go into engineering excuse me? you mean add maths or mod maths?This post has been edited by thken: Feb 6 2009, 11:17 AM |
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Feb 6 2009, 11:22 AM
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engineering needs physics and add maths
anyone free to chat in msn, i'm bored xD |
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Feb 6 2009, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 6 2009, 11:22 AM) engineering needs physics and add maths finish spm nothing to do leh?same same laanyone free to chat in msn, i'm bored xD khaishin, u din give out ur msn also This post has been edited by thken: Feb 6 2009, 12:26 PM |
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Feb 6 2009, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 5 2009, 04:53 PM) Is there any scholarship for plkn students if they get a good result? I heard they give a small amount of incentive like few hundred ringgits to those who obtained relatively good result in SPM. |
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Feb 6 2009, 01:18 PM
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New timetable is out for spm.
Econs is not clashing with physics already. |
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Feb 6 2009, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Feb 6 2009, 01:07 PM) I heard they give a small amount of incentive like few hundred ringgits to those who obtained relatively good result in SPM. Oh, okay, thanks for your info.Same thing as I heard of last time. Few hundreds is also good , better than non. Added on February 6, 2009, 2:17 pm QUOTE(Lemmings @ Feb 6 2009, 01:18 PM) New timetable is out for spm. New timetable?Econs is not clashing with physics already. Econs and physics for 08 and 07 did not clash as well. Added on February 6, 2009, 2:19 pm QUOTE(thken @ Feb 6 2009, 12:23 PM) finish spm nothing to do leh?same same la hehe, khaishin0706@hotmail.comkhaishin, u din give out ur msn also Anyone feel free to chat? I'm available on Monday - Friday, 9am to 5pm, lolz!! This post has been edited by khaishin: Feb 6 2009, 02:19 PM |
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Feb 6 2009, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Feb 6 2009, 01:07 PM) I heard they give a small amount of incentive like few hundred ringgits to those who obtained relatively good result in SPM. talk about plkn,the place really sucks( especially kuantan) wow, lucky if u got there. wish u good luck there food sucks, sleeping place sucks, bath room lagi sucks(water can go up to 10cm according to my friends), worst of all the trainer there, very racist type. all the best p/s: if u kena plkn, pray to god hard, if u dun want kena, pray to god harder |
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Feb 6 2009, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(thken @ Feb 6 2009, 01:23 PM) finish spm nothing to do leh?same same la same same.....waiting PLKN...lolkhaishin, u din give out ur msn also |
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Feb 6 2009, 07:01 PM
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i kena PLKN, but i sent letter saying i unfit. lol, u think they will believe? when will i neo if they accept my excuse? btw wanted to ask, is accounts clashing with any science stream subjects? my sister gonna take this year. my time (2007) nothing clashes, this year weird..
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Feb 6 2009, 08:22 PM
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Usually won't clash, as a lot of people are taking Accounts as an extra subject, so no worries.
As for you saying you not fit, I doubt they will believe you. If they believe, a lot of people escape already. |
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Feb 6 2009, 08:43 PM
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the initial timetable this year had physics and econs clashed.
they just revised it today =) |
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Feb 6 2009, 08:46 PM
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Well, you have to go for medical checkup after getting your surat tawaran and if the hospital give you a confirmation letter saying you are not qualified, you can be drawn from it.
Haha, I kena 2nd batch, hopefully not Kuantan la!! |
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Feb 6 2009, 08:48 PM
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What is so bad about Kuantan?
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Feb 6 2009, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(Lemmings @ Feb 6 2009, 08:43 PM) the initial timetable this year had physics and econs clashed. Timetable for SPM won't be announced so early is it.. they just revised it today =)  Or that's the timetable of your school exam |
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Feb 6 2009, 09:36 PM
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you don't read the papers do you? =(
why would my school exam timetable released at the kementerian website for? |
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Feb 6 2009, 10:08 PM
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It could be a draft you know, no need to be mad.
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Feb 7 2009, 09:22 AM
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Add.Maths!!
Not enough time to study. Chem and PA has a total of 5 days to revise. Have 2 days to revise Physics. The first week beginning from Wed to Fri will be a busy moment as History subject joined in with BM and Eng on the same day. I think I need to let some of the other subjects to join in the revision gap such as Physics, Bio , Moral and Add. Maths . Hopefully this year I can do early preparation as I regreted for not doing that when PMR was around. . Just wonder how you guys arranged a revision timetable for yourself and you can follow it with discipline coz I can't cope with timetable and eventually lots of things happened in between.After Physics exam, Chemistry will be my last subject. Kasi hentamnya study puas2 for 5 days. This post has been edited by ilovecookies92: Feb 7 2009, 09:24 AM |
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Feb 7 2009, 03:32 PM
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SPM 09 timetable is nice.
Haha, sufficient time to prepare for most of them subjects. |
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Feb 7 2009, 06:56 PM
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wheres the 2009 timetable... SPM08 candidate here... hehe
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Feb 7 2009, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ Feb 7 2009, 09:22 AM) Add.Maths!! at least the time table for add math from 8-10 n cotinue 2-4 i think... better lar... Not enough time to study. Chem and PA has a total of 5 days to revise. Have 2 days to revise Physics. The first week beginning from Wed to Fri will be a busy moment as History subject joined in with BM and Eng on the same day. I think I need to let some of the other subjects to join in the revision gap such as Physics, Bio , Moral and Add. Maths . Hopefully this year I can do early preparation as I regreted for not doing that when PMR was around. . Just wonder how you guys arranged a revision timetable for yourself and you can follow it with discipline coz I can't cope with timetable and eventually lots of things happened in between.After Physics exam, Chemistry will be my last subject. Kasi hentamnya study puas2 for 5 days. thx guys telling me that spm timetable out ady... me also dunno This post has been edited by iceman31: Feb 7 2009, 08:07 PM |
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Feb 7 2009, 08:45 PM
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where is the time table? link pls
Added on February 7, 2009, 8:47 pm QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ Feb 4 2009, 07:33 PM) ok let me explain although i sux in physics, therefore this question is pretty general. you mean that the distance travelled by the bee(4) and the image of the bee(4)? is it?As one of the forumer explains:- basic: *******4m**********4m******** image----------mirror----------object "bee">>>>>> <<<<<<<"bee" If you still do not understand the concept , get a measuring tape (construction type) and start pulling it from the starting point which is your mirror (preferable a mirror that shows from head to toe) to a spot where you stand. Next, look at the measuring tape from the spot you stand till the "image" of your spot in the mirror. Isn't it 2 times longer than the length of your measuring tape to the mirror(object)? This post has been edited by vick5821: Feb 7 2009, 08:47 PM |
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Feb 7 2009, 08:57 PM
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hey everyone.
i need some advice here as im really frustrated whether to remain in sc stream or jump to art? i got 6a2b in pmr. bm n bc b.wtf so.i got into pure sc and life's kinda tough. XD i dislikes addmath x_x and my mum suggest me to chg to art stream cuz its easier to score in spm? but i don't like econs and acc. esp when its in BM but i dont hink i can cope up with addmaths either. any advice anyone? help please. urgently as its already feb =( help will be appreciated. THX This post has been edited by QianYu: Feb 7 2009, 09:01 PM |
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Feb 7 2009, 09:03 PM
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i kena ns 2nd batch too..
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Feb 7 2009, 09:04 PM
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aiya.sc stream easy one..let me teach you..lol
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Feb 7 2009, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 7 2009, 08:45 PM) where is the time table? link pls i think dis one.... spm timetableAdded on February 7, 2009, 8:47 pm you mean that the distance travelled by the bee(4) and the image of the bee(4)? is it? |
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Feb 7 2009, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(QianYu @ Feb 7 2009, 08:57 PM) hey everyone. wat stream are u in now?i need some advice here as im really frustrated whether to remain in sc stream or jump to art? i got 6a2b in pmr. bm n bc b.wtf so.i got into pure sc and life's kinda tough. XD i dislikes addmath x_x and my mum suggest me to chg to art stream cuz its easier to score in spm? but i don't like econs and acc. esp when its in BM but i dont hink i can cope up with addmaths either. any advice anyone? help please. urgently as its already feb =( help will be appreciated. THX depends on ur interest and ur future career. think further = = dun regret later. but.. aiya.. nowadays alot ppl graduated from science stream also working business related .. depends on ur choice |
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Feb 7 2009, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(ViLenG @ Feb 7 2009, 09:10 PM) wat stream are u in now? wtf... 2009 SPM timetable so nais... got lots of cuti to study summore...depends on ur interest and ur future career. think further = = dun regret later. but.. aiya.. nowadays alot ppl graduated from science stream also working business related .. depends on ur choice I agree wif her... science stream grad can go anywhere also... This post has been edited by froggytrade: Feb 8 2009, 10:21 AM |
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Feb 7 2009, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(ViLenG @ Feb 7 2009, 09:10 PM) wat stream are u in now? i've no ambition and thats why im stuck now.depends on ur interest and ur future career. think further = = dun regret later. but.. aiya.. nowadays alot ppl graduated from science stream also working business related .. depends on ur choice btw im in pure sc now. i know sc stream has wider field but if im into business or banking or wadever in the future then..... it would be wasted and i have no basics on that. |
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Feb 7 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(gajah91 @ Feb 7 2009, 09:03 PM) i kena ns 2nd batch too.. Same here |
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Feb 7 2009, 10:41 PM
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hmm i wonder when is spm result comming out??
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Feb 7 2009, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 7 2009, 08:45 PM) where is the time table? link pls Exactly. Added on February 7, 2009, 8:47 pm you mean that the distance travelled by the bee(4) and the image of the bee(4)? is it? . |
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Feb 7 2009, 11:48 PM
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i am now in college just after my spm last year...for my pre u, i didnt took up any science subjects although i am in pure science stream....i found out most of my friends there also from science stream but decided not to take up science subjects also as they got no interest in it...some of them is the smart one somemore...it is true that science stream students got a better choice in the future....
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Feb 8 2009, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(tan91 @ Feb 7 2009, 11:48 PM) i am now in college just after my spm last year...for my pre u, i didnt took up any science subjects although i am in pure science stream....i found out most of my friends there also from science stream but decided not to take up science subjects also as they got no interest in it...some of them is the smart one somemore...it is true that science stream students got a better choice in the future.... What are you saying?? Most rich people are businessman!Whatever you do, you'll have a way in life. Trust me |
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Feb 8 2009, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(QianYu @ Feb 7 2009, 09:34 PM) i've no ambition and thats why im stuck now. Just read your case. No worries girl, everyone does encounter such problem as you after PMR unless that person has done his/her revision before school reopens. When I first joined in the upper form in science stream, it's a total shock as it was my first time approaching to the brand new syllabus and new science subjects such as Physics, Biology, Chemistry and Add.Maths.btw im in pure sc now. i know sc stream has wider field but if im into business or banking or wadever in the future then..... it would be wasted and i have no basics on that. Firstly, add.maths brought all of us crazy. Majority students failed Add.Maths except 1-4 students. We seriously need professional help and mental guidance  and everyone was thinking to drop Add.Maths but our school didn't allow us to do that. Chem is alright for all of us. I am weak in Physics subject with other students as well. Similar as add.maths, about 4-6 ppl have passed. So some of them have decided to drop Physics next year (2009).I ever have the "initiative" to drop physics as I have a hard time getting over it and I worried it will ruin my cert. I gave myself sometime by betting whether I may continue to keep Physics for SPM by looking at my chances of a "pass" in Physics. In that year, there's 2 assessments and 2 examinations for Form 4. If I have at least 2 passes over 4 examinations/assessments in Physics, then I will move on and take Physics for SPM. I passed in the first assessment, and the 2 following exam/assessment got me failed. I was about to give up. In the end, I couldn't believe I passed Physics in my final exam. I found out I am "ok" with paper 1 and 3. Paper 2's the one who made me failed. And yeah, I am taking Physics no matter how sucks I am and I am moving on, not giving up and aiming maximum a B3 would be ideal. You would wonder why am I so dumb to take Physics although I only managed to get through the "borderline"? I wish I could drop Physics and Add.Maths. I have less worries on Add.Maths compare to Physics because I have attended Add.Maths tuition and concentrate to the fullest during Add.Maths class. The outcome? Not bad, got a B3 in the 3 exams after I have failed Add.Maths for the first time during first assessment. People would have thought, "A person who's can handle Add.Maths and Maths are going to do well in Physics", for my case it's a lil different. To do well in Physics, I need more "personal attention" to love this subject and recently I got my school Physics teacher to teach me and a few of my friends as a study group after school once a week because in school, I can sense that I am lack of concentration learning Physics in school due to many students are making troubles. Well, that's my opinion. Although no one hates Chemistry, but seriously, we kinda forget the basics xD. Bio is alright for me but still, I have to maintain my best effort to maintain the best grades I can get. Think on a brighter side. If you are taking important science subjects you do not like, you can always drop it as you wish, but not during SPM. If you drop the subjects now, you will not have the foundation/basic of the subjects, meaning you have "zero" knowledge on these subjects, resulting you have almost 0% to get a degree that's requires these subjects. As an example, you cannot take Engineering if you have no SPM Physics and Add.Maths. Even if you have no interest in some job fields now, who knows during future you can have your "backups" to save you from being sorry.  My advice after all the crap lecture: In my conclusion, you should stay with the subjects you are learning which truly helps you in your future. If you are in science stream, keeping staying and work extra harder on the subjects you are weak in since you have not decide what field you will be in future. Easy to score or scoring SPM in flying colours is not a main issue. The important fact you have to remember is take up important subjects that you might need them for future, no matter how much you love or hate it. A credit (C6 and above) for your SPM subjects is sufficient enough for you to secure a degree and more jobs you can apply with. After SPM, you can always drop the subjects you cannot cope with. As long as you get over with the subjects during SPM, the rest will be not be any much hassle for you for future tertiary education in case you have changed your mind on which course you are going to enrol. This is my final year studying History, PA, Physics and Add.Maths. 2 years of suffer. Soon I will miss it. xD . Hope I can get over Physics and Add.Maths with satisfying marks. *Cheers*. Hope it helps. This post has been edited by ilovecookies92: Feb 8 2009, 01:34 AM |
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Feb 8 2009, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(Synthesia @ Feb 8 2009, 12:28 AM) What are you saying?? Most rich people are businessman! what i mean is that u can choose watever field in the future..not like in the art stream, choices r limited while for science stream students, they can take up engineering, medical or any thing like business...Whatever you do, you'll have a way in life. Trust me |
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Feb 8 2009, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(froggytrade @ Feb 7 2009, 09:26 PM) wtf... 2009 SPM timetable so nais... got lots of cuti to study summore... im a she I agree wif him... science stream grad can go anywhere also... Added on February 8, 2009, 9:01 am QUOTE(QianYu @ Feb 7 2009, 09:34 PM) i've no ambition and thats why im stuck now. interest should be the word... btw im in pure sc now. i know sc stream has wider field but if im into business or banking or wadever in the future then..... it would be wasted and i have no basics on that. but sometimes is affected by the economy also la.. have you heard those who had a master or degree later on only working as a sweeper in the middle of the road? LoL im not trying to scare you la.. but at the age of you now..we cant really predict the future.. who say will be WASTED?? hey you will GAIN MORE KNOWLEDGE by studying art and science field man.. if you're a smart student. no matter where you go also no problem one. and the last tthing is you better decide fast what ya going to be in the future. This post has been edited by ViLenG: Feb 8 2009, 09:01 AM |
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Feb 8 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(QianYu @ Feb 7 2009, 08:57 PM) hey everyone. don't like eco and add maths..xDi need some advice here as im really frustrated whether to remain in sc stream or jump to art? i got 6a2b in pmr. bm n bc b.wtf so.i got into pure sc and life's kinda tough. XD i dislikes addmath x_x and my mum suggest me to chg to art stream cuz its easier to score in spm? but i don't like econs and acc. esp when its in BM but i dont hink i can cope up with addmaths either. any advice anyone? help please. urgently as its already feb =( help will be appreciated. THX Do you like to draw or ICT then? You may take Art, ICT etc. I'm was a pure science student last year and I took economics and account as extra subjects. Hmm, I do agree with others saying that science students have a wider field in the future, as business subjects are easier to catch up with. 6A2B is not too bad, you can cope with those subjects if you work on them. How could you go for business or banking field if you don't like accounting and economics? Either science or art, interest is the 1st thing you have to consider. Other than science and art, is there anything you like? Like ERT , lukisan kejuruteraan, ICT and so on. Now is only Feb, add maths is not as hard as you think. If you can catch up the syllabus and practice always, you can score well. If you really can't, you can drop some subjects when you register for SPM subjects in form5. It won't be a waste for science student to go for art stream. Those things we have learned came to be our knowledge. We have more knowledge than others. Everyone has to be more competitive and there is nothing like PURE science or PURE art student, we must have some extra knowledge to heighten our value. |
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Feb 8 2009, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(ViLenG @ Feb 8 2009, 08:56 AM) im a she Hehehe... Sorry |
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Feb 8 2009, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(froggytrade @ Feb 8 2009, 10:20 AM) Hehehe... Sorry A chemistry question Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Feb 8 2009, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ Feb 8 2009, 01:31 AM) Just read your case. No worries girl, everyone does encounter such problem as you after PMR unless that person has done his/her revision before school reopens. When I first joined in the upper form in science stream, it's a total shock as it was my first time approaching to the brand new syllabus and new science subjects such as Physics, Biology, Chemistry and Add.Maths. heh. i've no idea wad course im going to enrol next next year.Firstly, add.maths brought all of us crazy. Majority students failed Add.Maths except 1-4 students. We seriously need professional help and mental guidance and everyone was thinking to drop Add.Maths but our school didn't allow us to do that. Chem is alright for all of us. I am weak in Physics subject with other students as well. Similar as add.maths, about 4-6 ppl have passed. So some of them have decided to drop Physics next year (2009).I ever have the "initiative" to drop physics as I have a hard time getting over it and I worried it will ruin my cert. I gave myself sometime by betting whether I may continue to keep Physics for SPM by looking at my chances of a "pass" in Physics. In that year, there's 2 assessments and 2 examinations for Form 4. If I have at least 2 passes over 4 examinations/assessments in Physics, then I will move on and take Physics for SPM. I passed in the first assessment, and the 2 following exam/assessment got me failed. I was about to give up. In the end, I couldn't believe I passed Physics in my final exam. I found out I am "ok" with paper 1 and 3. Paper 2's the one who made me failed. And yeah, I am taking Physics no matter how sucks I am and I am moving on, not giving up and aiming maximum a B3 would be ideal. You would wonder why am I so dumb to take Physics although I only managed to get through the "borderline"? I wish I could drop Physics and Add.Maths. I have less worries on Add.Maths compare to Physics because I have attended Add.Maths tuition and concentrate to the fullest during Add.Maths class. The outcome? Not bad, got a B3 in the 3 exams after I have failed Add.Maths for the first time during first assessment. People would have thought, "A person who's can handle Add.Maths and Maths are going to do well in Physics", for my case it's a lil different. To do well in Physics, I need more "personal attention" to love this subject and recently I got my school Physics teacher to teach me and a few of my friends as a study group after school once a week because in school, I can sense that I am lack of concentration learning Physics in school due to many students are making troubles. Well, that's my opinion. Although no one hates Chemistry, but seriously, we kinda forget the basics xD. Bio is alright for me but still, I have to maintain my best effort to maintain the best grades I can get. Think on a brighter side. If you are taking important science subjects you do not like, you can always drop it as you wish, but not during SPM. If you drop the subjects now, you will not have the foundation/basic of the subjects, meaning you have "zero" knowledge on these subjects, resulting you have almost 0% to get a degree that's requires these subjects. As an example, you cannot take Engineering if you have no SPM Physics and Add.Maths. Even if you have no interest in some job fields now, who knows during future you can have your "backups" to save you from being sorry. My advice after all the crap lecture: In my conclusion, you should stay with the subjects you are learning which truly helps you in your future. If you are in science stream, keeping staying and work extra harder on the subjects you are weak in since you have not decide what field you will be in future. Easy to score or scoring SPM in flying colours is not a main issue. The important fact you have to remember is take up important subjects that you might need them for future, no matter how much you love or hate it. A credit (C6 and above) for your SPM subjects is sufficient enough for you to secure a degree and more jobs you can apply with. After SPM, you can always drop the subjects you cannot cope with. As long as you get over with the subjects during SPM, the rest will be not be any much hassle for you for future tertiary education in case you have changed your mind on which course you are going to enrol. This is my final year studying History, PA, Physics and Add.Maths. 2 years of suffer. Soon I will miss it. xD . Hope I can get over Physics and Add.Maths with satisfying marks. *Cheers*. Hope it helps. my physics sux too. : ( QUOTE(ViLenG @ Feb 8 2009, 08:56 AM) im a she if i go for bank or business related course in the future.i wouldn't have basics and my knowledge for bio and all that sc subjects are gonna be not useful.buried deep inside my brain. i have no idea on what im going to be in the future too. and thats the biggest prob of me. and dats also why im like at the junction, nt sure whether to left or right Added on February 8, 2009, 9:01 am interest should be the word... but sometimes is affected by the economy also la.. have you heard those who had a master or degree later on only working as a sweeper in the middle of the road? LoL im not trying to scare you la.. but at the age of you now..we cant really predict the future.. who say will be WASTED?? hey you will GAIN MORE KNOWLEDGE by studying art and science field man.. if you're a smart student. no matter where you go also no problem one. and the last tthing is you better decide fast what ya going to be in the future. btw im nt a smart student? lol. im lazy. XDQUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 8 2009, 09:25 AM) don't like eco and add maths..xD actually my maths in form1,2,3 sux. Do you like to draw or ICT then? You may take Art, ICT etc. I'm was a pure science student last year and I took economics and account as extra subjects. Hmm, I do agree with others saying that science students have a wider field in the future, as business subjects are easier to catch up with. 6A2B is not too bad, you can cope with those subjects if you work on them. How could you go for business or banking field if you don't like accounting and economics? Either science or art, interest is the 1st thing you have to consider. Other than science and art, is there anything you like? Like ERT , lukisan kejuruteraan, ICT and so on. Now is only Feb, add maths is not as hard as you think. If you can catch up the syllabus and practice always, you can score well. If you really can't, you can drop some subjects when you register for SPM subjects in form5. It won't be a waste for science student to go for art stream. Those things we have learned came to be our knowledge. We have more knowledge than others. Everyone has to be more competitive and there is nothing like PURE science or PURE art student, we must have some extra knowledge to heighten our value. i wonder how i get an a for maths in pmr anyway. and thats why im kinda scared of maths n addmaths. some kinda phobia cuz i got the worst mark of my life thats a D for maths in form2. i never even got a C and this time its a D so im like "im dead in math" interest- im not interested in econs and acc. sc subjects are...normal.no dislike or like. my mum also ask me to take acc . as if im into banking line in the future at least i have a "backup" |
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Feb 8 2009, 01:15 PM
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my math in PMR also sux.bnut form 4 got 100 or 98..lol
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Feb 8 2009, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 8 2009, 01:02 PM) A chemistry question Dunno whether I should post this or not since we had oredy reaffirmed the answer. Well, for everyone's beneficial I guess? M1V1 = M2V2 0.1x25 = M2x3.5 M2 = 0.071428571 .:. 0.071428571 mol/dm3 0.071428571 = mol / 35x10^-3 mol = 2.5x10^-3 That is why the answer should be D; the diluted water will only reduce the concentration of HCl but not the mol |
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Feb 8 2009, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 8 2009, 01:15 PM) my math in PMR also sux.bnut form 4 got 100 or 98..lol Same here xD. When reach F4, Maths will be a piece of cake to you once Add.Maths was introduced. |
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Feb 8 2009, 06:11 PM
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Well well well,
for Form 5 students, hmm, I posted some useful links in my blog just now, http://khaishint.blogspot.com You may download the sejarah notes there. |
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Feb 8 2009, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 8 2009, 06:11 PM) Well well well, EDIT IN FIRST POSTfor Form 5 students, hmm, I posted some useful links in my blog just now, http://khaishint.blogspot.com You may download the sejarah notes there. EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST For the win. |
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Feb 8 2009, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 8 2009, 06:11 PM) Well well well, khai sin is a girl o..leng lui..for Form 5 students, hmm, I posted some useful links in my blog just now, http://khaishint.blogspot.com You may download the sejarah notes there. visited ur blog.. interesting |
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Feb 8 2009, 06:51 PM
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wow. i thought she is a boy
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Feb 8 2009, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 8 2009, 06:11 PM) Well well well, Thank you so much. Hope that it helps. Thx for your contribution.for Form 5 students, hmm, I posted some useful links in my blog just now, http://khaishint.blogspot.com You may download the sejarah notes there. |
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Feb 8 2009, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ Feb 8 2009, 01:58 PM) Same here xD. When reach F4, Maths will be a piece of cake to you once Add.Maths was introduced. i felt add maths was easier than maths |
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Feb 8 2009, 07:00 PM
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erm, somehow.last year final exam my add math got 99 but math just got 98..lol
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Feb 8 2009, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 8 2009, 07:00 PM) erm, somehow.last year final exam my add math got 99 but math just got 98..lol 'just got' he says.. i never gt 98 in maths final before... |
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Feb 8 2009, 07:05 PM
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haha..form 4 math is easy
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Feb 8 2009, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Feb 8 2009, 06:59 PM) i felt add maths was easier than maths Well, for me, maths is easier >.<QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 8 2009, 07:05 PM) haha..form 4 math is easy Yes, I agree with you. |
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Feb 8 2009, 08:15 PM
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additional maths is hard btw
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Feb 8 2009, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ Feb 8 2009, 06:59 PM) i felt add maths was easier than maths you're joking.maths is easier than addmaths la |
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Feb 8 2009, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(IamjustME @ Feb 8 2009, 06:30 PM) EDIT IN FIRST POST huh? ??EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST EDIT IN FIRST POST For the win. Added on February 8, 2009, 8:42 pm QUOTE(ViLenG @ Feb 8 2009, 06:30 PM) khai sin is a girl o..leng lui.. Thanks.visited ur blog.. interesting Hmm..Khaishin seems to be a boy's name? Added on February 8, 2009, 8:44 pm QUOTE(thken @ Feb 8 2009, 06:51 PM) wow. i thought she is a boy again.. Added on February 8, 2009, 8:45 pm QUOTE(ilovecookies92 @ Feb 8 2009, 06:58 PM) Thank you so much. Hope that it helps. Thx for your contribution. Hehe, it's ok. Just lend a hand, those webs would be more useful especially around trial and actual SPM.This post has been edited by khaishin: Feb 8 2009, 08:45 PM |
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Feb 8 2009, 09:47 PM
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then i must add khaishin adi
btw khaishin, r u hardworking student? got note some more |
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Feb 8 2009, 10:14 PM
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Lol.
I get them on9 last year after trial exam and before actual SPM. xD Left these only, last time there were alot xD |
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Feb 8 2009, 10:30 PM
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for those who sat 4 spm 08. do u guys/gals feel that ur result will not be that good? because so much cool cold question had appear during the exam?
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Feb 8 2009, 10:47 PM
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how to measure change of pH for the rate of reaction.?
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Feb 8 2009, 10:53 PM
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whatever the result is....i will just accept it....menerima hakikat
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Feb 8 2009, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 8 2009, 10:47 PM) how to measure change of pH for the rate of reaction.? use phenolphthalein or universal indicator. |
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Feb 8 2009, 11:02 PM
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what divide by time>?
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Feb 8 2009, 11:11 PM
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what do you use?
Usually to test pH, it is cm^3/s^-1 |
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Feb 9 2009, 12:56 AM
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haha, all 08 candidates so happy, some of them went for NS, some stay at home wait till march to start their course, some until July!
Most of them enroll to collge when Jan. So, this is the time where u and ur friends start to separate and could not get in touch anymore... anymore..... anymore... |
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Feb 9 2009, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Feb 9 2009, 12:56 AM) haha, all 08 candidates so happy, some of them went for NS, some stay at home wait till march to start their course, some until July! agree, life is near perfect except boring and lonely if you stay at home everyday like me Most of them enroll to collge when Jan. So, this is the time where u and ur friends start to separate and could not get in touch anymore... anymore..... anymore... anyway to all 2009 spm candidate: sleep well and eat well, study comes second, sport? don't play everyday la because make you tired and want to sleep. make some jokes with friend wont hurt ur spm result(i think) good luck guys Added on February 9, 2009, 1:50 amshoot, the matriculation checking still din online yet. lame and slow gov. say ready in 9th feb.......BN gov always make broken promises, never change, including this matter. when say out on 9th feb then appear on 9th feb la. fed up with these ruling system and some more say in charge of perak will be better under BN............ This post has been edited by thken: Feb 9 2009, 01:50 AM |
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Feb 9 2009, 09:34 AM
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haha thken. i am waiting for the matric check also..
what is it meant by status... does it show whether we are eligible to join matric? Added on February 9, 2009, 9:36 ambtw... i think the matric check will be on only 10+ or something.. becoz during the 2nd phase of ipta registration is also like that.. This post has been edited by Chee: Feb 9 2009, 09:36 AM |
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Feb 9 2009, 01:26 PM
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chee, if u get matrik u want to go ma?
any1 wanted to go matrik? but i think private U such as UTAR or MMU better lor, some more got ptptn loan to take |
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Feb 9 2009, 02:14 PM
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applied for it but hopefully I don't get it !
Regret for applying now xD |
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Feb 9 2009, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 9 2009, 02:14 PM) applied for it but hopefully I don't get it ! if got that adi...i tell u how to doRegret for applying now xD 1st go there and take rm1000 , yes free for you, then if you dont wan study there? just quit, so simpleor you can just ignore the offer...... |
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Feb 9 2009, 03:20 PM
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most probably will go. if i get it... but the chances of getting it would be very low... since i am a non-bumi.
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Feb 9 2009, 03:39 PM
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i heard nowadays graduated form local gov U hard to find job in local company adi because of their quality of education is to "geng". MNC i dont know la.....any1 from human resource department can confirm this matter?
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Feb 9 2009, 04:41 PM
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just complete ur study first for whatever it takes. jobs will come to u later xD
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Feb 9 2009, 04:45 PM
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No matter which U you are lif, if you are really outstanding, you must get the job.
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Feb 9 2009, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(khaishin @ Feb 9 2009, 04:45 PM) No matter which U you are lif, if you are really outstanding, you must get the job. wad happen if u are just normal student?for the normal student surely it is an advantage for them if they study in private Up/s: i just a normal student |
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Feb 9 2009, 04:49 PM
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discussion about SPM pls
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Feb 9 2009, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(vick5821 @ Feb 9 2009, 04:49 PM) discussion about SPM pls those who will sit spm has to think for their future. not just spm only, life goes on after spm |
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Feb 9 2009, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(thken @ Feb 9 2009, 04:47 PM) wad happen if u are just normal student?for the normal student surely it is an advantage for them if they study in private U It needs to be a GOOD private Uni.p/s: i just a normal student |
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Feb 9 2009, 05:10 PM
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after spm is there any good college/U for enginnering?
i mean affordable ones la and most important recognizanced by BEM and MQA |
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Feb 9 2009, 05:20 PM
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1,998 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: kl
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UNITEN?
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Feb 9 2009, 05:30 PM
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938 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: where I belong to....
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chee, i think we better go other place and chat.
this tread i think is for spm 09 de, not 08 |
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Feb 9 2009, 07:01 PM
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lol..this thread is for 08 and 09 lah..dude.
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