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 Begin Your Career As A SEAFARER, Marine Engineering, Nautical Studies,etc

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post Mar 27 2009, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(drake88 @ Mar 24 2009, 11:40 PM)
i didnt know surveyor guide captain to position for platform/ pipeline installation. what actually u do can u please explain in detail .. i know pilot guide captain to berth and unberth to SBM and dock .


Added on March 24, 2009, 11:45 pmdestoryer .. please ask those senior before u give any information regarding salary onboard ..

FYI .. AET is giving USD 200 only .. MISC is giving the same amount also but in RM currency .. so is around RM 650
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they are planning to increase the allowance to usd400. one of my friends went for USMMA interview and one of the company top peope are telling them this.

QUOTE(thermo_reseat @ Mar 25 2009, 04:02 AM)
I'm actually dont know much how the contract arranged ...
either onshore or offshore, I dont think as a sponsorship taker has the position to negotiate with ur boss/company where u want work ...
dont you ever wonder why there is  sponsorship in the 1st place ? icon_idea.gif , perhaps u can negotiate it when u are interviewing with ALAMs interviewer  laugh.gif 
but it mainly depends on whether the company has saturated workers for particular positions ..if there is lack of offshore seamen, then u most probably will be working on offshore ...

again, it really depends on the policy of the agreement u have signed .
 
No, I'm not ...

ALAM is private institution, one of the best private institution that has advanced and complete facilities for marine eng. training in malaysia

PUO on the other hand, is fund by UNESCO and local govt., in term of facilities and quality, I think is almost same( but I can't be sure since I never see ALAM's ones, I just get to know by reading articles in websites )

talking lifestyle, just that if in ALAM u might get to know foreign mates...and ALAM students are bonded with contract while PUO-ians are not .
u should best ask TS on this ... 

about the salary, PUO fresh graduates usually have around rm 4000 to rm 5000  per month, some might get better offers like rm 6-8K....
(I get to know this by asking PUO graduated seaman, whom now works for  http://www.bumiarmada.com/ )
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for facilities, i would like to say that PUO is more better in ALAM. marine engineering campus are lack of facilities. the bus we use was the first ALAM we get(during 1976). thanks to f*****g melaka campus management.


QUOTE(silverchain @ Mar 25 2009, 08:26 PM)
wow man, u sure did alot of research on this field. Thanks alot man, u clear most of my doubts. I really hope i could get into alam. Btw, i do come across some of the blogger post smthg bad about alam. Such as this, how true is that i wonder?
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yep. in this career, if you get major injuries, you'll be dismissed. because you need to be fit. for marine engineering, you'll need to do benchfitting. if you got broken arm, how can you do this?

but for the case in that guy blog, yeah, i think ALAM is being to strict on it. he still attend the class.

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post Apr 2 2009, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Mar 30 2009, 08:30 PM)
hey guys, i just went to the mara carnival this evening. I came across with a Ranaco Group which also provide maritime education include engineering. Here's their official website Ranaco Group The programs offered are also accredited by JPK, MARA, PSMB, DOSH, PETRONAS. So i guess those who failed to enter alam or PUO can still consider this institute as the alternative. smile.gif
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one of my friend is currently studying in there. i'll ask him later on.

QUOTE(Need2Know @ Mar 30 2009, 09:07 PM)
say... silverchain, does the intake system of Ranaco Group is similar to the ALAM? I mean does the studies is sponsored? By who?
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i heard rumours that some of the student there are sponsored by exxonmobil, shel, etc.... i'll try to clarify to my friends.


QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Apr 1 2009, 11:50 AM)
Hi, i got a question here, i opted for Nautical Studies & Maritime Management, where do i go for the cadetship practical onboard a ship? MEBP program offered by ALAM is only for those graduated with an engineering degree right ?
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yup. for engine only. if you take those degree in UMT, you'll have to do 12 month of seatime for deck cadet. whether degree or diploma. it is still the same.

from degree route.

foundation 1 year + degree 4 years + seatime 1 year = 6 years after spm then can only become officer onboard ship.
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post Apr 3 2009, 11:17 PM

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faster2....


come on everybody, apply for it now.
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post Apr 5 2009, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(EquinoX @ Apr 4 2009, 03:24 AM)
Destroyer
I hv one Q, IF la~ IF my friend graduated from private uni in diploma in mechanical eng, can he go for ALAM and get credit transfer? Haha~
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i'm not sure about that. better you call alam and confirm about it.

QUOTE(Gravity @ Apr 4 2009, 12:51 PM)
awww, the awareness about this kind of job is extremely lowwww!! thank you so much for the information!!!!!!!!
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no prob. i also never know about it until i finish my spm.


QUOTE(tanjinjack @ Apr 4 2009, 02:57 PM)
Just to repost my question as it remains unanswered.. icon_question.gif
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naval architect i'm not sure about it. cause major ship maker are from korea, uk, japan and china. and they take their own people for this job. just try for it if you're interested in this job.

QUOTE(Need2Know @ Apr 4 2009, 09:00 PM)
Hey guys, does anyone here roughly have any idea about when will successful candidates be notified by ALAM??? I'm really worried...
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around mid april-mid may.
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post Apr 8 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Jeebeelicious @ Apr 6 2009, 12:31 AM)
this kind of job is unsuitable for who have sea sickness ..

tough job for tough men, certainly not for chickens
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yep. that's why there is quote saying "only the best men can go to sea". haha. but for sure every job has it own risk. not only for seafarer.

QUOTE(drake88 @ Apr 6 2009, 11:59 AM)
for you guys information . in order to register for oral examination, u guys need to do new seaman card that cost RM50 wang pos .. ^^
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yep. heard about that. sponsor said they will prepare new seaman card for us bfore we go for shipboard training. not sure it's true or not.

QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Apr 8 2009, 08:56 PM)
My friend is going for an interview at Bumi Armada for diploma in marine engineering tomorrow..

Any advice or suggestion?
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just go for it. he is lucky to be sponsored by bumi armada. btw, does he applied through alam application form?

QUOTE(EquinoX @ Apr 8 2009, 10:03 PM)
In this kind of job, mus have swimming ability.
In case they ask, haha u will phail in that.
Worsen if they straight throw u in da water during performance test? haha I jus imagine, not sure how is it. But heard BumiArmada interview is easy smile.gif no w0rries
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haha. yep. there is question you have to answer in the form given during interview. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SWIM? i answered no. and for ur information, during the induction program, they will ask you to swim to the other side of the .swimming pool. you'll have to do it no matter you know or not. i almost drown, but manage to struggle until i reaches spot where i can feel the floor.
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post Apr 10 2009, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Apr 10 2009, 04:44 PM)
hold on, the interview for the sponsorship program started already? If i didnt received any replies does that mean im not selected? huhu sad.gif
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haha. just wait. i think misc have not called people for their interview yet. if u don't get this one, just keep trying next year. there is one guy in my batch. he fail twice interview and manage to get the final one.
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post Apr 11 2009, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(zendragon @ Apr 11 2009, 05:19 AM)
I've got a question for you, how come we don't have a very very strong shipping company such as Japanese, Danish, German, English have?

Always asked this of myself, never could find an answer. Your thoughts are appreciated.

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we do. do you know that MISC is the 2nd biggest shipping company in the world. and MISC are the biggest in terms of LNG fleet.

company big, but pay suck. orang ckp xde berkat. haha. juz kidding. but might be true.

to start a shipping company is not easy. a ship alone can cost USD250million.

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post Apr 11 2009, 11:47 PM

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juz be patient. it should be near now.juz standby at ur phone and at ur mailbox.
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post Apr 12 2009, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(apsidewatch @ Apr 12 2009, 08:32 AM)
im asking on behalf of my fren..

he got 6As in spm,BM,BI,SEJ,Math,n few others.but no As in science subject(phy,chem,bio)..
he is  a little bit short.*or maybe im the who is tall*,average body weight n good eyesight

what are the chances of him getting into ALAM??he wants to be a seafarer badly notworthy.gif
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did he apply? last time i only get 5A's for my spm. i'm 158cm.


QUOTE(silverchain @ Apr 12 2009, 12:43 PM)
oh man, i seriously need to learn how to swim sad.gif
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haha. swimming will be a given advantage but in ALAM, 40% don't know how to swim. haha.


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post Apr 12 2009, 05:18 PM

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The interview will be about urself and general knowledge about companies(this is mainly about MISC and petronas) and shipping industries.

juz read about company profile and read something about ship that will make you look like that you're interested in this career.


Added on April 13, 2009, 1:46 pmnwly added pic regarding rank.

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post Apr 13 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(bigguy @ Apr 13 2009, 09:55 PM)
So for example ,after you finish grad from ALAM you would be working as engine cadet?then rise to junior engineer?
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nope. you're an engine cadet while you're in ALAM.

after grad, there will be 6month probation period, then you'll be promoted to 4th engineer based on performance. but usually people make it in 6 month. unless you're excellent during ur practical onboard ship. you'll be promoted straight into 4th engineer after grad.

btw, just to clear up something regarding the rank.

you'll notice that chief engineer will be below the captain. but actually chief ebgineer and captain hold the same position of rank. so in terms of salary, it should be equal.

captain are placed higher because they are company representative. and they hold higher responsibilities compared to others.

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post Apr 14 2009, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(Need2Know @ Apr 14 2009, 12:01 PM)
so...destroyer.. how many years have u been in alam? and who's your sponsor?
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haha. i've been i alam almost 1 year now. my sponsor? well, let's keep that a secret shall we? haha.

QUOTE(bigguy @ Apr 14 2009, 12:56 PM)
So how about the junior engineer???Is it just for show? rclxub.gif
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sorry. forgot to mention. during the 6month probation, you'll be known as junior engineer.
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post Apr 14 2009, 03:28 PM

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keep ur hopes on to those who applied for it.
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post Apr 14 2009, 05:06 PM

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haha.

that one i'm not sure.

during my time, i even called ALAM for the selection for the interview.

they said that as long u pass the minimum requirement, you'll be called.

then it'll depends on ur performance during interview & written test.

but i heard that this year there will be less intake coz sponsor are cutting number of sponsorship due to excessive number of cadets sponsored and current economy crisis.
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post Apr 14 2009, 08:29 PM

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from what i know.

the people who handle the interview calling is my seniors from batch ec21 & ech05. haha. my seniors is there handling this thing.

they were there to do attachment with office before sail.

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post Apr 15 2009, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(benblitz @ Apr 15 2009, 01:27 AM)
btw, i wear spectacles. surely my name is placed in kiv tray?? or im just being paranoid? but they do prefer those without spec. right? wht does ur senior hav to say abt this?
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you apply for what? if it is for engineering, then it is ok to wear spec. but if you choose nautical, sorry to say, they'll think twice before considering to take you.
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post Apr 15 2009, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Apr 15 2009, 12:40 PM)
oh man, i wonder who will be comin to sabah area to do the interview thing huhu. .

btw, i apply 2times, both nautical and eng. Bcus i think i wanna change coarse last minute. Will that be okay, wont be sacked? huhu
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haha. who told you that you can apply both?

because when company sponsored you, they already make calculation on how many deck officer and engine officer they want to work for them. changing of course have cause some major problem in my intake when some of us suddenly switch course. if you're under JPA or Felda then it is ok to switch course. for company sponsorship cannot change unless you got a very strong reason for it. VERY VERY STRONG REASON.

about applying both course. well, better call alam and say that you've made a mistake.. because later on when they realise that you're applying both and later on causing problem for them, they might not even call you fo interview.
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post Apr 15 2009, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(bigguy @ Apr 15 2009, 02:03 PM)
aww man ...there goes my intention to change the course if I have been there .Can I call the alam to get the confirmation if they get my application?
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hrm... i've never done this bfore. you can try. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 15 2009, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Apr 15 2009, 02:15 PM)
aww man, i think i shud call too. huhu

edited: just call, oww man today is a holiday? sob2
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yep. u shud call 2morrow.

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post Apr 17 2009, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(Need2Know @ Apr 17 2009, 08:40 AM)
any1 here has received replies from ALAM? I'm so worried..... Because joining ALAM is practically my last resort... destroyer, could you tell me the chances of being selected if i got 7a's in my spm. and i'm 179cm. I'm really sorry but i don't know bout the minimum requirements. Could you tell me bout it? Thx.
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well... with this rsult, you'll be called for interview. but after the interview, even 4A's guy can beat you. so, better prepare urself.

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